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Ether Light XR Pro Insulated Air Sleeping Pad

Sea To Summit - Ether Light XR Pro Insulated Air Sleeping Pad

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"Mine weighed in at 20.8 oz."


"Like they just upgraded it and called it the XR, less weight, better R-value. ... The brand new (literally new this week) Sea to Summit Etherlight XR pad looks impressive for weight to R-value ratio."


"good weight and size"

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"super comfy. ... And even me at 270lbs I can sit in my side and not bottom out (inflated a lot though)"


"I just put up with the pinholes and patching them on trail because I can't sleep better on any other pad. ... There's a huge difference in comfort depending on your body between the dimpled baffling of the Etherlight/Tensor and the horizontal baffling of the Xlite. ... I can't sleep on horizontal baffling despite all the good features of the Xlite. ... I'm a side sleeper and my arms and shoulders ache and/or fall asleep or go numb on the Xlite. For whatver reason I can only sleep on dimpled baffles (tensor, etherlight)"


"Love my S to S pad also. ... Rivals my Select Comfort bed at home. ... Bought a back up in case they go out of business."

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"Just had my second camp out with it. 0 issues with warmth at 50F , unsurprisingly. Also at 60f I didn ’t sleep hot so that ’s nice too."


"The pad was great. No cold spots. ... For reference I slept terribly and was cold in 37° on a rapide pad in December last year. ... I had zero issues with the pad"


"Perfect. Freezing would be the coldest I'd use it. That's my cut off."

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"It’s the first ultralight mat I’ve used that doesn’t sound like a bag of chips when I move around — no annoying crinkle from the heat-reflective foil. ... The outer fabric is also surprisingly quiet."


"Set up in a tent it ’s very quiet actually. Not much sound when adjusting position. ... i think it ’s pretty quiet compared to lots of other pads I ’ve heard."


"I have the XR version and it's not loud at all."

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"is a great all-rounder, one of the best actually when it comes to comfort-weigh-pack size ratio."


"Pack size is about the size of a 32 oz nalgene water bottle and actually a bit smaller. So quite compact."


"great packed size"

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"My only dislike from the Etherlight is the exterior finish on the materials they used makes it squeaky on the tent floor and against some sleeping bags. ... The Sea to summit etherlight packs too big for what it is and the external material is super squeaky on a tent floor."


"very squeaky ... sometimes even like rubbing balloons together ... Could also be due to pad rubbing against tent floor."


"Ether light I found noisy and sold it."

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"which started leaking after 3 nights"


"Or if it's little seam weld pinholes, take advantage of the warranty (I use Sea 2 Summit pads mostly). ... but i'm not really talking about those kind of holes (that can be patched) - i mean the phantom leaks that can't be identified or fixed easily, like seam welds, valve stuff, etc. (especially on quilted/dimpled baffles) ... All my sea to summit pads have developed stress pinholes in the dimple welds, nothing to do with anything I could have done or prevented as a user, it's a common defect with that style of baffle. ... I talked to someone at Sea to Summit once who said that those type of failures are not due to external puncture/abrading but actually weaknesses that can occur when the seam welds are done that get exacerbated/worse over time. Typically they occur under the torso/arm area and are due to more contact from elbows specifically. ... sometimes (like quilted/dimpled baffles) the pads are just prone to little defects that emerge the longer the pad is used that no amount of babying can prevent. ... No matter how much you baby your sleeping pad, if it has a weak valve attachment, it's gonna develop a leak."


"I just put up with the pinholes and patching them on trail because I can't sleep better on any other pad. ... they can develop pinholes especially around where your elbows contact the pad when rising or laying down."

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"The only downside is the bulk. ... It takes up a lot of space in my pack. ... When I I’m out for long hauls I don’t have the room for it and switch to the Tensor All-Season."


"Also it packs a little larger than some others ... The Sea to summit etherlight packs too big for what it is"


"The winter version is absurdly bulky."

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"As a cold sleeper for the love of God do not get the ether light. I had it for a while and I was just dang cold all the time unless it was properly warm out."


"It's so cold with a quilt, It really feels like it's doing nothing, even in summer conditions."


"your Ether Light only has an R-value of 3.2 which is way too low for 0-15°F temps (you need at least 5+ for those conditions) ... no amount of merino will fix heat loss through the ground."

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"Dropped about 9ozs and kicked myself the rest of the way down the trail for being so gullible. ... I could really feel those 9ozs off my back."


"The only downside is the bulk. ... It takes up a lot of space in my pack. ... When I I’m out for long hauls I don’t have the room for it and switch to the Tensor All-Season."


"Note I do have a large though because I'm over 6' tall and don't like my feet to hang off the end, it is 25.2" wide (6'6" long) but sadly much heavier at 25.4oz"

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artdecodisaster • 3 months ago

I tried both and went with the Ether Light XR. It came down to what felt good. I didn’t think the baffle design on the Tensor AS was comfortable or distributed weight well and much preferred the baffling on the Ether Lite as a side/stomach sleeper. I plan on upping the R value with a Z-lite pad if necessary.

r/CampingGear • Almost there! Narrowed down my sleeping pad search and it's between the Nemo Tensor All season and Sea to Summit Ether light XR. What would you pick? ->
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artdecodisaster • 3 months ago

The Ether Light is woven nylon just like the Nemo, but 30D vs 20D for the top. I compared them back in May, but I remember they felt fairly similar material-wise. I did think the Nemo was slightly more crinkly. The Ether Light is a little slippery, but I think it makes it easier to flip around. My last pad was a polyester Exped Dura which had a lot of friction going on with my clothes, which made it annoying to flip around at night because my clothes and quilt would get bunched up and twisted.

r/CampingGear • Almost there! Narrowed down my sleeping pad search and it's between the Nemo Tensor All season and Sea to Summit Ether light XR. What would you pick? ->
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artdecodisaster • 3 months ago

No problem! It was one of the reasons I switched pads. The other was that I didn’t find vertical baffles all that great for side sleeping. The arm I slept on frequently went numb, and I’m pretty sure it was from the baffles pressing against it.

r/CampingGear • Almost there! Narrowed down my sleeping pad search and it's between the Nemo Tensor All season and Sea to Summit Ether light XR. What would you pick? ->
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artdecodisaster • 4 months ago

I’m 100% co-signing this review. As a rotisserie chicken sleeper who likes to be tucked in, I effing love my Zenbivy and how snuggleable it is. It really does feel like a real bed. I also recently got the Ether Light XR to pair with it! I was also considering the Zenbivy Flex, but the S2S warranty won out. I was dead set on a rectangular pad but S2S’s pricing structure is kind of nonsensical, making the large tapered cheaper than the rectangular regular/wide. The taper didn’t bother me like I thought it would since it starts past my hips, and the longer length meant I could stretch out on my stomach without my feet hanging off. I also prefer the air sprung cell construction over the vertical baffles on my previous Exped pad. I think they distribute my weight better. I do agree that it’s a bit plasticky, but my Zenbivy sheet makes that a nonissue for me.

r/CampingGear • Zenbivy (Quilt + Flex Mattress) Review and Ether Light XR Pro ->
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b_revity • 3 months ago

Get something with a super high R rating - higher than you think you need. Look for a baffling system that is either dimpled or vertical. For whatever reason, horizontal baffles don’t have a lot of “give” to them so they are less comfortable for side sleepers in general.  Therm-a-Rest Neoair Xtherm is probably the warmest pad out there (not the highest R rating per se but the most effective insulation system means it is still warmer than other pads with higher R values). It may not the most comfortable for a side sleeper because of the horizontal baffles, however. But this is the pad you want if you want to prioritize warmth. If you want to prioritize comfort, Sea to Summit Ether Light XR Pro will probably not sleep as warm but will be more comfortable for a side sleeper because of the dimpled baffling system. Nemo Tensor Extreme Conditions is also very warm and only slightly less comfy than the Ether Light.  Exped Ultra 7R is a bit heavier and bulkier but is very comfy for a side sleeper. It uses down rather than reflective film for insulation. So it won’t be quite as crinkly as a lot of warm pads, but I’m not sure if the down insulation is more or less effective in this application.  Big Agnes Campmeister Deluxe is quite bulky and heavy for a backpacking pad but is super, super comfortable and has a very respectable R value of 7.  The other big, bulky “luxury” comfort backpacking pads - Exped Megamat Ultra and Therm-a-Rest Neoloft - are great options for comfort but with lower R values so they may be less warm than you might want.  Other things to consider - even a well-insulated sleeping pad will only stay as warm as your body is able to heat it. The bigger the pad, the more of your body’s heat it will draw away from you. So don’t buy a massively oversized sleeping pad thinking it will automatically be more comfortable. For insulating purposes, something that is only as big as you need it to be will be more efficient for your body to keep warm.  Make sure you take advantage of all the usual strategies for staying warm in the backcountry: Use your Nalgene as a hot water bottle and keep it in your sleeping bag/quilt with at night. Do some jumping jacks or other activity to get your heartrate and body temperature up before going to bed. Make sure you are properly hydrated and getting enough food to keep warm. Etc. 

r/CampingGear • Affordable backpacking pads for side sleepers? ->
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b_revity • about 1 month ago

Nemo Tensor Extreme Conditions will be warmer than the All Season.  I find the Tensor series to be a bit more comfortable than the NeoAirs. But she’s already uncomfortable with the Tensor. I would consider instead the Sea to Summit Ether Light XR Pro, which has a high R value and most people have found to be more comfortable than either the Tensors or the NeoAirs. 

r/Ultralight • Tensor all-season or Neo-air Xtherm NXT (these names are getting long) ->
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caramello-koala • about 1 month ago

Check out the new Sea to Summit XR Pro, it’s got a 7.4 R-value, which is actually warmer than the XTherm’s 7.3. I find the baffle design way more comfortable than Thermarest, and the mummy version is a bit wider too, and it’s thicker.

r/CampingGear • Best cold weather mattress that’s NOT an xtherm ->
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cnix435 • 10 months ago

\+1 for the Ether Lite! I've got a bunch of pads, but I always end up going back to this one for comfort. The material is a little squeaky and I would trust it below freezing, but it's very comfortable. I've also seen it on sale regularly for less than $150.

r/Ultralight • UL comfortable sleeping pad for side sleepers? ->
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cnix435 • 4 months ago

The new SeatoSummit XR Pro pads might be a good option. They seem to have really improved on the size/weight, and have around a 7 r-value. I have one of their older XT non-pro models and find it really comfortable.

r/Ultralight • Sleeping Pad Choice ->
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cnix435 • 6 months ago

I own all the pads you have listed, I would go with the Tensor All Season. You might also take a look at the new XR version of the Ether Light. I believe they updated this version with a more traditional mylar style insulation resulting in better weight and a higher R-Value. If it's anywhere near the comfort of the old version, it would be a solid option. You might also look at pairing any potential pads with something like the Gossamer Gear thinlight. It would add quite a bit of protection with around an additional 0.5 R-Value.

r/Ultralight • Can you help me choose my sleeping pad: cold side sleeper & up to slight freezing temps (woman) ->
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CurseMeKilt • 3 months ago

Sea to summit has a lifetime guarantee on their products which ultimately became my deciding factor in choosing them between the same two pads you mentioned.

r/CampingGear • Almost there! Narrowed down my sleeping pad search and it's between the Nemo Tensor All season and Sea to Summit Ether light XR. What would you pick? ->
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CurseMeKilt • 3 months ago

I LOVE the XT R factor (7.1?) the warmth factor definitely has me considering quits over bags now.

r/CampingGear • The size difference between my Nemo Astro Insulated and my new Sea to Summit Ether light XR is insane. The thing is tiny! ->
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CurseMeKilt • 3 months ago

Oh-You’re right, my mistake! I just can’t believe how comfortable it is! I’m an old school double closed cell foam pad user and it doesn’t make sense now to use ANYTHING else. I love how the heat radiates back on you immediately when you lay down!

r/CampingGear • The size difference between my Nemo Astro Insulated and my new Sea to Summit Ether light XR is insane. The thing is tiny! ->
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Equivalent_Chipmunk • 6 months ago

I am the same weight as you so maybe can help here. Have you looked at the Sea to Summit XR or XR Pro? The R values are 4.1 and 7.4 respectively, with the Pro being heavier too. The regular is ~22" and 19.8oz vs the BA at 18oz, so if you can fit on a <6' pad, that gives you another 2"/10% of width and almost doubles your R-value for only ~2oz. I side sleep and roll a lot on mine and find it very comfy. Note I do have a large though because I'm over 6' tall and don't like my feet to hang off the end, it is 25.2" wide (6'6" long) but sadly much heavier at 25.4oz

r/Ultralight • Looking for a 25" Sleeping Pad ->
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Equivalent_Chipmunk • 6 months ago

I am the same weight as you so maybe can help here. Have you looked at the Sea to Summit XR or XR Pro? The R values are 4.1 and 7.4 respectively, with the Pro being heavier too. The regular is ~22" and 19.8oz vs the BA at 18oz, so if you can fit on a <6' pad, that gives you another 2"/10% of width and almost doubles your R-value for only ~2oz. I side sleep and roll a lot on mine and find it very comfy. Note I do have a large though because I'm over 6' tall and don't like my feet to hang off the end, it is 25.2" wide (6'6" long) but sadly much heavier at 25.4oz

r/Ultralight • Looking for a 25" Sleeping Pad ->
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HwanZike • 7 months ago

This one from S2S might fit the bill: [https://seatosummit.com/products/ether-light-xr-pro-insulated-air-sleeping-pad?variant=44032184778925](https://seatosummit.com/products/ether-light-xr-pro-insulated-air-sleeping-pad?variant=44032184778925) I've had no issues with my UL Insulated one, though its R is \~ 3 so I combine it with a 2.5cm CCF pad for winter.

r/Mountaineering • Sleeping Pad Recommendations? ->
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Tha_Green_Kronic • 4 months ago

I have the XR version and it's not loud at all.

r/camping • I'm looking for the quietest sleeping pad and cannot decide after DAYS of research ->
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WeBuild • 10 months ago

https://imgur.com/a/78A23hn Hey all! Just picked up the new Etherlight XR, literally just opened and inflated it but curious if anyone has any questions for me about it compared to the old one. I don’t see any information about this online from YouTubers or any posts on Reddit. So let me know if you want me to check anything. The seams claimed to be improved, as far as I can tell they look a bit different than the last model (which I didn’t own) Inflating it with the two in one bag/inflated was pretty easy too! I live in Florida but am a sucker for new gear (my 11 year old pad just kicked the bucket) so I hope this isn’t too warm for the summer months. Leak testing it right now and will see if there are any issues out of the box.

r/Ultralight • New EtherLight XR Pro photos/talk ->
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WeBuild • 10 months ago

I’m not super sensitive to it, and did not own the last one. That being said i think it’s pretty quiet compared to lots of other pads I’ve heard. Let me see if I can get a sound recording for you

r/Ultralight • New EtherLight XR Pro photos/talk ->
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WeBuild • 10 months ago

Per the marketing material. Stronger seams, lighter, and a much smaller pack size. Also the insulation is better/different. Looking inside you can see reflective sheets.

r/Ultralight • New EtherLight XR Pro photos/talk ->
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WeBuild • 10 months ago

Yep I follow what you’re saying. I see 0 ways that is possible on this current design https://imgur.com/a/xuKrSc7

r/Ultralight • New EtherLight XR Pro photos/talk ->
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WeBuild • 9 months ago

I’m actually camping with it Saturday. Set up in a tent it’s very quiet actually. Not much sound when adjusting position. But yeah super comfy. And even me at 270lbs I can sit in my side and not bottom out (inflated a lot though)

r/Ultralight • New EtherLight XR Pro photos/talk ->
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4tunabrix • 3 months ago

The ether light XR is the first pad that’s given me just as good a night sleep as I do at home. It’s such a comfortable pad. I’m a side sleeper and nothing compares to it for comfort for me. It can be a bit noisy so when I’m tossing and turning before falling asleep it can be a bit of a nuisance but it’s never hindered my sleep

r/CampingGear • Almost there! Narrowed down my sleeping pad search and it's between the Nemo Tensor All season and Sea to Summit Ether light XR. What would you pick? ->
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4tunabrix • 3 months ago

It’s not crinkly or rustly, can be a bit squeaky! But think it also depends on sleeping bag material. Like I said it’s never cause me an issue but my partner has commented on it before

r/CampingGear • Almost there! Narrowed down my sleeping pad search and it's between the Nemo Tensor All season and Sea to Summit Ether light XR. What would you pick? ->

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