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#158 in Sleeping Pads

Therm-a-Rest - NeoAir Camper Duo

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"The roborock I have kicked and smashed with my foot so many times out of anger when it doesn't collaborate, and still he rocks 4-5 yrs later and no broken parts"


"has withstood the last week of winds over 70 freezing kph."


"I've used it daily for at least 10 years now, probably closer to 15 and apart from the fact you need to clean it periodically, it's still works like brand new."

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"I can take it down to like 25-30F very comfortably."


"Pads like the Xtherm (with good convective heat loss mechanisms) outperform pads like the Tensor XC (minimal convectove eat loss mechanisms) even though the Tensor XC has a higher tested rvalue. ... Stevens testing reinforces what I have also been seeing in the field while testing dozens of pads in every temperature possible. ... The other issue is that companies are designing to max the ASTM standard and "taking advantage of" the hole in the standard in order to push really high r-values that don't hold up when you're all of a sudden in air temps of -40."


"I slept on a simple switchback in 7°F weather last month on Hagerman Pass in Colorado... It was warm enough."

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"It also fits into the overhead compartment for flights!"


"I was able to carry it up and down the 2 flights of stairs to my apartment within 2 weeks of my cesarean which I think says a lot!"


"All of the strollers I just listed fit in the overhead bin of an airplane"

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"It's more comfortable than some beds I've had at home."


"bought a NeoAir for the CDT and slept great on all of them."


"Hasn’t missed a beat, no problems and it’s so much warmer and comfier than my previous self inflating mat."

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"For me the thermarest warranty has been worth its weight in gold ... every interaction I’ve had with them has been amazing, no questions asked replacement or repair"


"if they fail (which out of all the matt's ive had over the years are the most reliable) the customer service is second to none, you will get a replacement."


"Ive had both ThermaRest and Nemo send me free replacements when my pad developed a leak"

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"Me too. And I use Apple Airpods. $$$$$"


"$179 is pretty nuts. ... As long as people keep buying them and paying the esports tax, they're gonna keep selling them at this crazy price. ... The G305 feels really similar, but at 1/3 the price. ... I don't truely understand why the G pro light is all the rage. ... I used a G pro for a week, and while it did feel very smooth and responsive, I also had a G305 that felt very similar."


"overpriced and don't ever prove the price difference in sound over the az100."

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"Both times I’ve hiked the PCT my thermarests have popped in the desert . ... My first one had multiple holes and was a write-off."


"Inflatables take a lot of babying, they often get holes. ... If a pad pops once every 10 weeks, you’ll have to replace the pad at least twice on a thruhike. Of course, some pads don’t pop, it’s just that they often do pop or leak at some point. I don’t want to spend 100-200 dollars on something that’s gonna fail after a couple weeks. ... “ often they do pop or leak at some point” meaning most pads will pop eventually. Once it pops or leaks, even if it’s once, the pad has failed and it doesn’t effectively function unless repaired or replaced. ... Based on anecdotal personal evidence, which of course isn’t a great measure, a lot of pads pop or leak without making it through a full thruhike. One failure is too many for me. There’s no other piece of gear, besides socks and shoes, that fail as often as pads. ... I’ve had one fail in as little as 2 days and I currently have one that has yet to fail after like 70 nights🤷‍♂️."


"leaked out the valve all through Washington, leaving me on the ground multiple times per night, waking me up every hour or so."

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"I had to return the etherlite after waking up with a sore back every night."


"I'm a side sleeper and had one of the worst nights sleep on the S2S Ether ... Something about the S2S made my spine bend the wrong way on my side."


"My ass is always hitting the ground with the Klymit V."

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"it's so ridiculously loud I can't use it!"


"potato chip bag noise effects"


"the exped still makes noise ... the noise caused by the sleeping bag sliding around on the pad ... I turn over nonstop all night long and am insanely sensitive to noise."

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"wobbled long ways (not side to side) a lot when i moved around"


"I don’t slide off the StS, and I can sleep on my side. I will start to feel the pressure on my hip and have to change position occasionally, but probably don’t end up doing that much more than when I’m at home. ... I think if you want a wide pad because there's literally not enough room for your arms, etc., on the regular width, or that sort of thing, a wide absolutely makes sense. But if you want a wide pad because your arms (or you) technically fit on the pad but tend to slip off, it may be worth seeing how you do with a less slippery pad."


"with the mummy shaped pad I often found myself halfway off the pad in the middle of the night."

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0dteSPYFDs • 4 months ago

I hate my NeoAir, I don’t find ThermaRest pads comfortable at all. I’d take a CCF over a Thermarest. For trips where I want an inflatable over a CCF, I just got a Nemo Tensor since they’re on sale at REI (25% off). At least in store, it felt a lot better than my NeoAir or CCF.

r/Ultralight • Sleeping Pad Choice ->
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0dteSPYFDs • 4 months ago

Seems like a great all around option. A little heavier than I would like on because I need a long/wide, but I sleep like shit on the NeoAir. I wake up multiple times every night off the pad, slide around, bottom out and my body hurts in the morning. The CCF pad I have is better, but also not warm enough a lot of the time.

r/Ultralight • Sleeping Pad Choice ->
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9ermtb2014 • about 1 month ago

Thermarest neoairs are too loud and crinkly for me. Rab style of mattress doesn't do well for me as a side to belly sleeper. Nemo is my pick because the only air pads I've kept are Nemo. An astro non-insulated pad is my summer pad with an older cosmo insulated pad being my 30 to 55-deg pad.

r/CampingGear • Any strong reason to choose one over the others? ->
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aaommi • 30 days ago

The therm-a-rest is the most popular and i have the blue one but depending on the conditions you camp in you could pick the lighter one (yellow). That being said this one and the nemo extreme conditions will have higher denier material underneath which makes them less prone to puncture. I don’t know about the other ones on top of my head. Nemo and thermarest both have good warranties and spare parts, so I’d be leaning towards that. It’s polarizing but both are known to make a lot og noise no matter what they claim.

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aaron_in_sf • 2 months ago

Personally I am UL-allied and accommodate my cranky needs despite that ruining my BW. So will not react in horror. I haven't tried this but my wife and I use a Duo and love it; personally I'd try the shorter one; and if it doesn't work out swap up. (I still use the crinkly Thermarest UL thing and you could carry that in addition to the short Ultra and still be a few grams shy of the long one lol.)

r/Ultralight • Exped Megamat Ultra: talk me down ->
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ActionHartlen • 8 months ago

The thermarest Neo air mats are lightweight and good quality, if a little pricey. MEC alternatives aren’t bad either. I prefer a foam/air mix pad and have been really happy with the one I have form Sea to Summit. If you want to be on the inexpensive side, look at Woods or Decathalon, but expect more weight.

r/canoecamping • Sleeping pad recommendations? ->
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Alpinisming • 9 months ago

I've 200+ nights on my NeoAir. I've patched a couple holes over that time, but it was easy to identify and fix them in the field. Cascade Designs, the parent company of thermarest, will replace your pad if there's a defect in it (I've warrantied an MSR tent with them). Thru hikers use inflatable pads and do just fine. Are you having this problem with multiple brands and models? Are you super heavy? Are you sleeping wearing anything that is metal? Maybe get a gossamer gear 1/8" foam pad and put it underneath your inflatable.

r/Ultralight • My sleeping pads never seem to last more than a few months ->
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amazingBiscuitman • 4 months ago

i have a therma neo air therm--good. but what makes it great is the 1cm closed cell foam pad that i bring along with it--keeps me xtra warm at night, but more importantly is a great lounging pad in the winter kitchen and kneeling pad at the tent door etc

r/wmnf • Winter sleeping pad rec? ->
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Ancient-Paint6418 • 11 months ago

Have you considered a camping cot? There are a lot of ultralight options now which are about the same price as a good sleeping pad for side sleepers. The only difference being is the weight, you’re looking at around 1.5kg for a cot bed which would be double the weight of a sleeping pad. For me, the extra weight is worth it for the comfort. For context I’ve tried Therm-a-Rest, Big Agnes and Nemo mats. If I’m going for comfort, the cot bed wins every time.

r/wildcampingintheuk • Best sleeping pads for side sleeping? ->
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angryjew • 4 months ago

You should go to REI if you can and try out different pads. I had a very hard time sleeping on the neoair, the horizontal baffles killed my shoulders (Im a side sleeper). I recently got an exped 5r mummy which is still under a lb depending on size. I love it. Its so comfortable, it feels sturdy, doesnt slide around. I sleep better than I ever got on the trail I love it. I think its a nice balance between very light & obscenely heavy (like the neoloft).

r/Ultralight • Talk me into or out of a neoloft ->
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ashoradam • 10 months ago

Then it’s a CCF pad for you. I’ve had no issues with reliability. I’ve owned an Uberlite and two Neoairs (NXT and non). But if something can break, it will eventually. I’d recommend babying it, in every way (site selection and clearing, handling, etc.).

r/Ultralight • Thermarest NeoAir Xlite NXT: I'm tempted, but there are so many negative reviews I'm seeing regarding leaks and customer service ->

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