Therm-a-Rest - NeoAir UberLite

I would get an uberlite and take the old ccf for redundancy and guaranteed comfort. Are you still serving?

How is the uberlite?

Then it’s a CCF pad for you. I’ve had no issues with reliability. I’ve owned an Uberlite and two Neoairs (NXT and non). But if something can break, it will eventually. I’d recommend babying it, in every way (site selection and clearing, handling, etc.).

Then it’s a CCF pad for you. I’ve had no issues with reliability. I’ve owned an Uberlite and two Neoairs (NXT and non). But if something can break, it will eventually. I’d recommend babying it, in every way (site selection and clearing, handling, etc.).

There was a recent discussion about this type of pad and it’s R values here: https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingGear/s/AcsRlx09DN I use those olive green military surplus Thermarest ultralite pads for car camping with achesp closed cell foam pad underneath for my kids. I usually use something beefier for me. The pads can be found online and budget prices (~$15 new old stock), but shipping $$ will get you. It’s a good budget combo For backpacking, I prefer the lighter weight closed cell foam pads in conjunction with a newer version of inflatable pad like the Xtherm or in summer the Neo air Uber light.

I am a rotisserie sleeper (back and both sides) and use an uberlite, RW cut to 3/4 length or just past my knees (about 50” for me). It weighs 9.0 oz. (The 20” versions inhibit my sleep because, well, I have arms.) I place my feet on my backpack with a sit pad and find that works comfortably on my back, my side, whatever. Packs so small too. If you can sleep on a 20” wide pad, good for you. You can get even lighter, below 7 oz I would think.

For a while, being broad-shouldered, I thought I needed a wide pad but eventually learned how to sleep with a 20” wide pad. But before that, I cut the bottom 21” off my regular wide Thermarest and found that easy to adapt to. It reduced the weight of a 16 oz mattress to only 12 oz, as well as reducing bulk. Cutting a thermarest mattress is surprisingly easy. The key is to cut such that your knees are supported by the pad. The feet can rest on your backpack, spare clothes, and/or sit pad. More comfortable than you would think.

Sometimes reports of bad durability are reports of people’s *fears* about bad durability, which are largely based on others expressed fears. I’ve been using the same Uberlite (156g) for the last two years without incident. I don’t expect it to have the durability of an Xlite, but I’ve been pleasantly surprised so far.

Plenty of brands use 20D, the few times they've ventured lower has massively impacted durability; see the thermarest uberlite and the current Nemo tensor elite, which Nemo even admitted developed pin holes during testing. You will be fine with 20D with or without CCF underneath. I use an X-lite which is 30D I believe but previous mats I've used were 20D all fine and I'm don't exactly baby my gear lol.

If you’re looking for an inflatable, Nemo Tensor All Season or Therma-Rest Uber Lite? They’re more expensive but comfortable, light, and warm/comfy.

The Uberlite was designed to be as light as possible and they pushed the coating thickness to the limit. That's why they don't make it anymore. It was too hard and too expensive to get reliable seams with that thin of coating. Probably 1/3 of the pads made were scrapped.

Avid Rockies backpacker based in Calgary. I have the Nemo disco -9 bag and it is perfect for all my three season trips and I’m getting a second one soon for my son. In the summer I still take a base layer top (a lighter one) and shoulder season add in the bottom. I also have a warmer base layer and a much lighter top. So it’s mix and match depending on the temp. As everyone sleeps differently, warmer or colder, you’ll have to figure that out on your own. But the bag is good! I use it with a Thermorest neoair xlite but for warmer temps use the Uber light. I believe the Nemo you mentioned is the equivalent. I suggest testing your gear once you have it to figure out your limits. I went winter camping at elbow lake just before the road closed (as car only 1km away!) and with the gear I would normally take in a shoulder season trip I figure I’m pretty good down to -10 and will survive fine if a bit colder. Did Rummel lake on a warmer spell in February and it was a fantastic trip. Obviously the winter trips I had more than just my usual shoulder season gear but it was very informative of my shoulder season capabilities.

Two cents. I’ve had multiple Nemo tensors and they all leaked and tore beyond repair. Same with Uber lite which is quite low R value. Now I use Neoair Xlite NXT. It seems to strike balance between durability, r value, and weight savings. https://www.rei.com/product/241034/therm-a-rest-neoair-xlite-nxt-sleeping-pad

I get that. I use a Thermarest Uberlite when i hike solo. I'm 6'2, and my dog is 150 lb Great Dane. I haven't used it quite yet with my dog, but I used a Drop Xmid 1p on the Colorado Trail without the inner a couple times and I feel like it will be plenty large enough for the two of us.