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Therm-a-Rest - NeoAir XLite (OG Version w Classic Valve)

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"The roborock I have kicked and smashed with my foot so many times out of anger when it doesn't collaborate, and still he rocks 4-5 yrs later and no broken parts"


"has withstood the last week of winds over 70 freezing kph."


"I've used it daily for at least 10 years now, probably closer to 15 and apart from the fact you need to clean it periodically, it's still works like brand new."

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"it weighs under 350g"


"small earbuds ... Totally ruined it for me when they made them twice as big the next go-around..."


"best cheap tiny earbuds I've ever used ... They put all the others to shame."

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"Coming from the Razer viper ultimate at around 74 grams to the X2 Crazylight at 35 is a surreal experience, the mouse is basically as light as a feather to pick up and move it almost seems like it's not even there. ... As a fingertip grip user the feel of using a mouse this light is bar none, it makes it so much easier to pick up and re adjust and just moving it around with your wrist in fine movements it feels much more accurate and controllable."


"After the third run of another 15 miles a few days ago, I was sold and grinning from ear-to-ear afterwards. It's light, fast and propulsive, responsive, stable, nimble, grippy, comfortable, and protective. It pretty much does it all in a very lightweight package."


"it weighs under 350g"

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"I can take it down to like 25-30F very comfortably."


"Pads like the Xtherm (with good convective heat loss mechanisms) outperform pads like the Tensor XC (minimal convectove eat loss mechanisms) even though the Tensor XC has a higher tested rvalue. ... Stevens testing reinforces what I have also been seeing in the field while testing dozens of pads in every temperature possible. ... The other issue is that companies are designing to max the ASTM standard and "taking advantage of" the hole in the standard in order to push really high r-values that don't hold up when you're all of a sudden in air temps of -40."


"I slept on a simple switchback in 7°F weather last month on Hagerman Pass in Colorado... It was warm enough."

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"super comfy. ... And even me at 270lbs I can sit in my side and not bottom out (inflated a lot though)"


"definitely has improved our sleep quality a lot while camping ... boyfriend has back issues so a bad sleep set up is not really an option"


"I just put up with the pinholes and patching them on trail because I can't sleep better on any other pad. ... There's a huge difference in comfort depending on your body between the dimpled baffling of the Etherlight/Tensor and the horizontal baffling of the Xlite. ... I can't sleep on horizontal baffling despite all the good features of the Xlite. ... I'm a side sleeper and my arms and shoulders ache and/or fall asleep or go numb on the Xlite. For whatver reason I can only sleep on dimpled baffles (tensor, etherlight)"

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"it's so ridiculously loud I can't use it!"


"Only real con is that this thing is CRINKLY ... definitely the loudest pad I've used ... would honestly be a dealbreaker"


"potato chip bag noise effects"

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"It is narrow, 51 cm, and although I am thin and not tall, I wake up minimum 10 times a night and often my body or legs ends up on the bottom of the tent because I simply fall off the pad."


"It is very slippery, and although I am thin and not tall, I wake up minimum 10 times a night and often my body or legs ends up on the bottom of the tent because I simply fall off the pad."


"I hate my NeoAir, I don’t find ThermaRest pads comfortable at all. ... I sleep like shit on the NeoAir. I wake up multiple times every night off the pad, slide around, bottom out and my body hurts in the morning."

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"I hate the baffle design of my Therm A Rest Neo Air XLite and have to use it at a fairly low pressure for comfort. Which makes the insulation way worse than its R-value would suggest."


"I'm a side sleeper and my arms and shoulders ache and/or fall asleep or go numb on the Xlite."


"it always makes back and hip issues worse."

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"Both times I’ve hiked the PCT my thermarests have popped in the desert . ... My first one had multiple holes and was a write-off."


"Inflatables take a lot of babying, they often get holes. ... If a pad pops once every 10 weeks, you’ll have to replace the pad at least twice on a thruhike. Of course, some pads don’t pop, it’s just that they often do pop or leak at some point. I don’t want to spend 100-200 dollars on something that’s gonna fail after a couple weeks. ... “ often they do pop or leak at some point” meaning most pads will pop eventually. Once it pops or leaks, even if it’s once, the pad has failed and it doesn’t effectively function unless repaired or replaced. ... Based on anecdotal personal evidence, which of course isn’t a great measure, a lot of pads pop or leak without making it through a full thruhike. One failure is too many for me. There’s no other piece of gear, besides socks and shoes, that fail as often as pads. ... I’ve had one fail in as little as 2 days and I currently have one that has yet to fail after like 70 nights🤷‍♂️."


"leaked out the valve all through Washington, leaving me on the ground multiple times per night, waking me up every hour or so."

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"I hate the baffle design of my Therm A Rest Neo Air XLite and have to use it at a fairly low pressure for comfort. Which makes the insulation way worse than its R-value would suggest."


"I've only slept on it for one night with a Thinlight underneath, where it got down to 35F and I felt the cold under the pad for sure but it was fine. ... I would *never* use it without a Thinlight. ... not anywhere near as warm."


"I've only slept on it for one night with a Thinlight underneath, where it got down to 35F and I felt the cold under the pad for sure but it was fine. ... I would *never* use it without a Thinlight. ... not anywhere near as warm."

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0dteSPYFDs • 4 months ago

I hate my NeoAir, I don’t find ThermaRest pads comfortable at all. I’d take a CCF over a Thermarest. For trips where I want an inflatable over a CCF, I just got a Nemo Tensor since they’re on sale at REI (25% off). At least in store, it felt a lot better than my NeoAir or CCF.

r/Ultralight • Sleeping Pad Choice ->
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0dteSPYFDs • 4 months ago

Seems like a great all around option. A little heavier than I would like on because I need a long/wide, but I sleep like shit on the NeoAir. I wake up multiple times every night off the pad, slide around, bottom out and my body hurts in the morning. The CCF pad I have is better, but also not warm enough a lot of the time.

r/Ultralight • Sleeping Pad Choice ->
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1ntrepidsalamander • 8 months ago

Personally (I’m in my 40s and a side sleeper) an Xtherm or Xlite is one of my favorite purchases. But everyone has different needs. I’m a fan of not buying new things until you actually need them. Or you are sure that your goals will outgrow your gear. A cheap inflatable is definitely not worth it.

r/Ultralight • Is it worth it to invest in an inflatable sleeping pad? ->
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9ermtb2014 • about 1 month ago

Thermarest neoairs are too loud and crinkly for me. Rab style of mattress doesn't do well for me as a side to belly sleeper. Nemo is my pick because the only air pads I've kept are Nemo. An astro non-insulated pad is my summer pad with an older cosmo insulated pad being my 30 to 55-deg pad.

r/CampingGear • Any strong reason to choose one over the others? ->
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aaommi • about 1 month ago

The therm-a-rest is the most popular and i have the blue one but depending on the conditions you camp in you could pick the lighter one (yellow). That being said this one and the nemo extreme conditions will have higher denier material underneath which makes them less prone to puncture. I don’t know about the other ones on top of my head. Nemo and thermarest both have good warranties and spare parts, so I’d be leaning towards that. It’s polarizing but both are known to make a lot og noise no matter what they claim.

r/CampingGear • Any strong reason to choose one over the others? ->
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Accurate-Yak-219 • 12 months ago

I sleep on a Exped Ultra 5r AT HOME every night. If I ain't worried over big miles, I take it backpacking. Cradles me just right with the outer "tubes" a little fatter than the midle ones. And I recommend a pillow that's tall enough for side sleeping. I usually take a thermarest x-lite on longer sections though, a little lighter and sleeps fine too.

r/AppalachianTrail • I can’t get comfortable to sleep on the trail. Help me with a sleeping pad, please. ->
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AceTracer • 9 months ago

I brought both, both times. Would again.

r/PacificCrestTrail • Talk Me Out of Bringing a 1/8" foam pad AND my thermarest neo-air xlite ->
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AceTracer • 9 months ago

More comfortable, and much much quieter, but not anywhere near as warm.

r/Ultralight • Nemo Tensor Elite after 5 Nights (Warmth, Comfort, and Durability) ->
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ActionHartlen • 9 months ago

The thermarest Neo air mats are lightweight and good quality, if a little pricey. MEC alternatives aren’t bad either. I prefer a foam/air mix pad and have been really happy with the one I have form Sea to Summit. If you want to be on the inexpensive side, look at Woods or Decathalon, but expect more weight.

r/canoecamping • Sleeping pad recommendations? ->
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Adventurous-feral • 5 months ago

Im a side sleeper. I have the XLite. Often feels like the baffles lack structure at the sides so in the mornings I'm fidgeting around feeling like im rolling off the mat. Not used a Tensor although I have heard it offers much better support for side sleepers. Also, the Xlite suffers from mould spots on what seems the outside. For comfort though, from all the mats ive laid on, sea to summit are the most comfortable

r/Ultralight • Tensor all season vs Xlite Nxt? ->
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Adventurous-Mode-805 • 9 months ago

I ditched my 1/8" pad by the Sierra Nevada because it wasn't valuable for me. I got three punctures in my Xlite in the desert and couldn't risk the 1/8" as a sit pad, given that it'd collect dirt and spiky stuff. I suspect it trapped spiky things in my tent that would've otherwise slipped around, and possibly not punctured my pad. It helped my pad not slide around, but beyond that, it didn't help me with punctures as best I can tell, and it was awkward in or outside my pack. So, good as a basic sitpad, but I'm not confident about its value beyond that.

r/PacificCrestTrail • Talk Me Out of Bringing a 1/8" foam pad AND my thermarest neo-air xlite ->
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Ahrithul • 3 months ago

That pad you linked does have almost identical specs to the 5R. Sometimes looks can be deceiving though. I've used an older Thermarest Xlite for a while as well as a Paria Recharge XL. The horizontal baffles aren't bad, but I've found the vertical baffles to kinda cradle you in the sleeping pad a little more. So I'm less prone to wake up half in the floor in the middle of the night.

r/WildernessBackpacking • Megamat “Ultra”… still very heavy ->

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