Therm-a-Rest - NeoLoft™ Sleeping Pad

Just did 37 miles and 3 nights with the neoloft. It was worth every ounce. As I get older I value sleep quality more than ever, and its just so comfortable. If you can fall asleep in something lighter like the nemo tensor or xlite do it. If not, its worth the weight.

Thermarest neoloft wide, it’s a bit on the heavier side but is the most comfortable pad I’ve ever used. I carry light weight gear for most items so I can splurge a bit on the really important items.  26” wide 4.7 R value 

No the sleeping bag won’t help much. To get a significant bump in comfort you’ll have to jump into some heavier pads that are still compressible enough to bring backpacking. Pads like the Thermarest Neoloft or Exped Megamat Ultra. I have a Tensor All Season and find it comfortable, however my Exped Synmat 3D (older version of the Megamat Ultra) is definitely more comfortable. My brother has the Rapide SL which is similar to the Tensor in comfort.

I recently bought a Neoloft and I agree it is the most comfortable pad I’ve ever used( and I’ve tried a bunch of them). Have you tried flipping your Neoloft over and sleeping on what is the bottom? I’ve found it seems warmer that way and am trying to find any other Neoloft users who would try this and see if they notice any difference.

I had a Tensor and it was uncomfortable for me as well. I’ve found Exped inflatable pads comfortable. My favorite right now though is the Neoloft.

Hi! I bought the Neoloft because I have had issues with pads that are thinner where my hips always hit the ground. I really like the Neoloft, but I will say that if you sit on it (especially in the middle) it can definitely feel like a big balloon and the front and back will make an effort to hit you in the face. The squishy material on the top does work quite well, and the depth of the pad means that my hips never touch the ground when I am on the pad. I have used and been very comfortable on the Neoloft down to -3°C (26.6°F) and did not feel cold or any cold spots, even under my hips. I made my own pillow, so no recommendations there. I would definitely suggest going to try out other pads at REI, and just embrace the weird and lie down on it for awhile.

I’ll second the XR. It’s pretty comfy for stomach/side sleeping. But also, I tried out the NeoLoft at REI this weekend and holy crap is it a comfy cradle of air.

Oooh how does the regular size fit your body? Since it has the raised sides would putting two side by side not be comfortable? Hubs and I like to snuggle. But when I saw this at the store and laid on it, it felt soooooo comfy

Take a look at my post history, my most recent post in this sub might be helpful to you. Fwiw i did try out a neoloft on my last trip and it is SO comfy, I'm just not sure yet if it's comfy enough for the weight penalty. The quality of my sleep did not improve, at least according to my Garmin watch. I'm trying out some new pillows on this next trip too, including the Nemo fillo (not the elite version, that's what I have used in the past) and the thermarest pillow that comes in all the cute prints.

thermarest neoloft 🙏🙏

I second the NeoLoft. 8 nights kayaking on the Rideau canal and more comfortable than any pad I've tried before.

I know its not exactly ultralight, but you ranked comfort first so i suggest you take a look at the new thermarest NeoLoft. Just released. I guess it has the best comfort/weight ratio while weighing 850 gramms, but for me, the 400 extra gramms are worth the best sleep ever

Yes.  Until I just got a huge one. Thermarest neoloft.   I got it as my prior one was deflating overnight so I decided to upgrade.   It's incredibly light and supportive and amazingly thick (comes with a bag to inflate it, it's really simple and clever, blowing up that much vokume by lung power would not be fun if exhausted.   I have yet to take it out on a trail since I got it but set it up at home and was impressed.  Give it some research if you're interested.  It's not cheap, but sleep is hard for me as I worn wierd schedules, so I figured splurging a bit to sleep comfy outside was worth it for me.  

I have tried the tensor / helix / ether lite / neo air X lite. A couple I’m forgetting. For me as a side sleeper the neoloft is far and away the most comfortable pad I have ever slept on. No more waking in the night with asleep / sore shoulders. I sleep through the night more often then Not. It’s a bit bigger and heavier than other pads, but man the sleep quality is worth it for me.

Thermarest NeoLoft is 4 inches. Supposed to not feel like plastic. Down side is it's heavier than the Sea to Summit that is mentioned.

Best sleeping pad is a 1,000% subjective. Different pads will be comfortable to different people depending on their preferences and sleeping habits, and the most important thing is finding a sleeping pad that is comfortable for you to sleep on. Now, there are **objective** differences between sleeping pads when it comes to things like price, R value, weight, packability, durability, etc. Many of these qualities are going to be directly antithetical to each other (e.g. higher R values and durability are generally going to come with a weight penalty; lighter weights/more packable are almost always going to be more expensive as well as more delicate). You just gotta try to find the pad that feels comfortable to you AND has the best combination of those objective qualities that matter most to you. Personally I've settled on the Therm-A-Rest Neoloft as my 3-season pad and the BA Campmeister Deluxe as my colder weather pad. Those pads are bigger and heavier than a lot of options on the market but they are super comfortable for me to sleep on and are made from more durable materials (75D on the BA and I believe 50D top/75D bottom on the Neoloft) so hopefully the odds of me waking up on a flat pad on cold hard ground are greatly reduced. Although I do also own a Nemo Tensor if I ever feel like I need to go super light for some reason. I am lucky to be in a position to own several high-end sleeping pads to keep around as options for different conditions!

Get something with a super high R rating - higher than you think you need. Look for a baffling system that is either dimpled or vertical. For whatever reason, horizontal baffles don’t have a lot of “give” to them so they are less comfortable for side sleepers in general.  Therm-a-Rest Neoair Xtherm is probably the warmest pad out there (not the highest R rating per se but the most effective insulation system means it is still warmer than other pads with higher R values). It may not the most comfortable for a side sleeper because of the horizontal baffles, however. But this is the pad you want if you want to prioritize warmth. If you want to prioritize comfort, Sea to Summit Ether Light XR Pro will probably not sleep as warm but will be more comfortable for a side sleeper because of the dimpled baffling system. Nemo Tensor Extreme Conditions is also very warm and only slightly less comfy than the Ether Light.  Exped Ultra 7R is a bit heavier and bulkier but is very comfy for a side sleeper. It uses down rather than reflective film for insulation. So it won’t be quite as crinkly as a lot of warm pads, but I’m not sure if the down insulation is more or less effective in this application.  Big Agnes Campmeister Deluxe is quite bulky and heavy for a backpacking pad but is super, super comfortable and has a very respectable R value of 7.  The other big, bulky “luxury” comfort backpacking pads - Exped Megamat Ultra and Therm-a-Rest Neoloft - are great options for comfort but with lower R values so they may be less warm than you might want.  Other things to consider - even a well-insulated sleeping pad will only stay as warm as your body is able to heat it. The bigger the pad, the more of your body’s heat it will draw away from you. So don’t buy a massively oversized sleeping pad thinking it will automatically be more comfortable. For insulating purposes, something that is only as big as you need it to be will be more efficient for your body to keep warm.  Make sure you take advantage of all the usual strategies for staying warm in the backcountry: Use your Nalgene as a hot water bottle and keep it in your sleeping bag/quilt with at night. Do some jumping jacks or other activity to get your heartrate and body temperature up before going to bed. Make sure you are properly hydrated and getting enough food to keep warm. Etc. 

Neoloft Thermarest sooooo much smaller same comfort

Love my neoloft. Not UL but soooo comfortable and no noise at all

I love my Thermarest Neoloft wide. Well worth the extra weight and size

I am a Neoloft user and it is worth every ounce IMO. I still keep my base weight below 15 pounds with it. Not great, but not bad at all.

I have used the xl disco cots, and those are very comfortable. From there one of the 4” thick memory foam sleeping pads. Both can be a bit bulky, but very comfortable. I also recently got the thermarest neoloft which I plan to use more when flying someplace because of how small it packs down.

I am fortunate enough to have both the mega mat and the new Neoloft I’ll skip to the end and tell you that the megamat wins-that layer of foam right under the surface combine with its thickness is just unbeatable, and it is darn close to a real bed. But I have the Neo loft because it’s really comfortable, it does have a bit more give, and isn’t so supportive in some places as the mega mat. But it rolls up into a very small role that I can throw into my pack, or check on an airplane or whatever. I have back problems and can sleep perfectly well on both pads, but the mega mat is just a bit more comfortable and supportive. But it’s absolutely huge.

Ooh wait! The new Neo Loft in Large would be real nice. https://www.rei.com/product/241039/therm-a-rest-neoloft-sleeping-pad

I have a chronic spinal injury and bought the Wide Neoloft for comfort - I have 3 nights on it and found it to be very stable, warm and comfortable... Compared to previous Sea to Summit and Nemo mats, this is exceptionally comfortable and in my opinion money well spent.

The issue I have with the Neoloft is it makes my shoulder numb. I spend most of my time on my side, but I toss and turn like crazy. I was playing around with the inflation level but so far haven't solved the numbness issue. Other than that, I agree with you it's probably the most comfortable pad I've yet tried. The Big Agnes Divide is very good and weighs about the same. Both these pads are just under 2lbs if you get the Wide version. This one has vertical baffles that I think work better for me, especially as a very active sleeper to keep me centered. No numbness. I have a CCF Switchback that I only used once without much grass under it. It was hard on my back and pretty much makes side sleeping impossible. I want to try it again with some taller grass underneath to pad it. There may be some times where the weight savings are worth.

I have the thermarest neoloft ($200 on sale) and some random trekology one, the ul120 ($50)and for 3 seasons i still prefer the $50 one. Honestly with a decent closed cell foam pad underneath it ive even slept plenty warm into the high 30s with the ul120. Weight is even similar. Obviously r value is the big difference but i don't know if its worth the cost.

The neoloft is a game changer!!! Absolutely worth the extra weight.

Follow your instincts. You will not find a pad (which qualifies as a backpacking pad) more comfortable than NeoLoft. The closest is the discontinued NeoAir Topo Luxe, which NeoLoft replaced. Pro tip: Buy the NeoAir Micro Pump

This ⬆️ Helped my bad back side sleeping immeasurably

I recently bought both the neoloft and the Zenbivy Flex Air. Both have 4-way stretch fabrics on the sleeping side which help reduce pressure points. I think the neoloft is slightly more comfortable but honestly they’re pretty similar, and the zenbivy is ~1/2lb lighter. The zenbivy is a little louder when you move around but it’s not crazy or super crinkley. Before these I was sleeping on the Zenbivy UL mattress and I think the stretch fabric definitely improves the comfort at the cost of a few ounces.

I haven’t slept on them outside yet but my living room tests felt like the Zenbivy slept noticeably warmer than the neoloft

> Edit: im currently looking at the thermarest neoloft. Anyone who owns it, how do you like it? It’s a step up from any other mat I have tried, to me it’s pretty much as good as a good standard bed mattress. It is great for side sleeping unlike most inflatables. You can try them at many REI stores, I did that and bought it on the spot.

The Neoloft is very stable for me when it’s not under-inflated. It wants a bit more tension than thinner pads. I have a lighter weight pad for backpacking but in other camping situations I love it.

I have some experience with both the Neoloft and the Tensor .. I did a sagged bike tour last month with the Neoloft (not hauling the gear so weight is not an issue), and I backpacked with it this week. I normally use the Tensor for backpacking but my daughter had no warm pad so I let her take it this week. I find the Neoloft unbelievably comfortable, it's as good as a high-quality mattress on your bed at home. It doesn't need to be under-inflated like most pads, it's best for me with a pretty high level of inflation. If you are a side sleeper it's golden, there is no discomfort at all. I am mainly a back sleeper but I also like to move a lot so I rotate through positions before I fall asleep. The Tensor I find perfectly OK if I get the inflation level right, but its not good on the side so I usually just avoid side sleeping with it. Based on my experience the Tensor might work if you are a back sleeper, but its a definite step down and the Neoloft could be worth the weight penalty in the end.

Thermarest NeoLoft. Packs down to a little larger than a Nalgene. Way less “bounce” than other backpacking air mattresses. You might be able to demo at an REI if there are any near you. (Your user name suggests Australia in which case I don’t know what brands are available.) Compare this one to the Big Agnes Campmeister Deluxe. Both are pricey and I haven’t heard first person reviews on the Campmeister yet but it seems pretty excellent for comfort + warmth. For a budget Big Agnes, see if you can find the Boundary Deluxe at a discount somewhere. It’s similar to the Campmeister (which seems to have replaced it) and the quilted baffles are key for no bounce (compared to the cheaper Big Agnes Divide, which is bouncy). And yes Exped is amazing but too big for your motorcycle.

The last few years have been brutal to me in terms of sleep quality while camping as I'm getting older. I have just started to accept I don't sleep well backpacking, regardless of how much money I throw at it. For me honestly focusing on finding a good pillow probably had more returns for me than focusing on a pad. I have a 3" neoair pad and a 4+" neoloft and I find them about equally as comfortable (the neoair is a wider pad, and all things being equal I'd almost rather than the wider pad than the thicker one, especially as a side sleeper)..

Yes, it is very subjective. Highly dependent on sleeping style too. Given your back issues and sleeping style (side to stomach, rolling), go for a thicker, supportive pad. Side sleepers need thicker and softer. Stomach sleepers need medium firmness to keep your body level and reduce lower back stress. The Therm-A-Rest not letting you touch the ground when moving is a good sign. That's a huge factor for comfort and preventing pain. For a week-long backcountry trip, good sleep is critical for managing back problems. If the pad helps you sleep well, it's worth the investment IMO. Don't feel bad about the cost. FWIW, I recently did an analysis on Reddit data for sleeping pads. Basically ranked them by aggregated sentiment. Maybe you'll find it helpful [https://redditrecs.com/sleeping-pad/](https://redditrecs.com/sleeping-pad/) You can filter by price, r-value, weight, and get a breakdown of what ppl have said about the most often recommended ones (disclaimer some links are affiliate they help fund the analyses)

I have a Neoloft and a Tensor All Season. (Current version) The Neoloft is extremely comfy as a side sleeper and is the quietest sleeping pad I’ve used as someone who moves around during the night. On hikes with lots of elevation or high mileage I’d take the Tensor to save the 10 ounces but I’ve carried the Neoloft on 15 mile days using a frameless pack without regrets and slept very well down to ~30 degrees Fahrenheit.

I tried both of the mentioned pads and can confirm that they have a lower real R value. If you combine one of them with the Thermarest Z Lite Sol it will be warm.

That air mattress weighs over 3 lbs and commands ultralight prices. While this isn't r/ultralight, but that's not even lightweight. For less than $40 more, get the Thermarest NeoAir XLite NXT at REI. It weighs 13oz and is comfortable. Edit: Or go crazy and get the Neoloft, half the weight and also 6 inches deep.

My spine is also dumb, and outside of those big "self inflating" pads that are too bulky for backpacking, the Thermarest Neoloft is the one that works for me. It's just big, that's the only downside really.

Nemo Tensor, Kilos Gear AeroCloud Elite, Big Agnes Rapide SL, Thermarest NeoLoft. The Sea To Summit Etherlight XT is also comfortable but heavy and bulky for a backpacking pad.

Therm-a-rest neoloft. I’m a side sleeper and it is awesome!

Same and a +1 for NeoLoft

6'3" 390lbs, in my mid 30's and have had two herniated discs for the last 22 years. I injured my back the same year I started really backpacking so sleeping pads are something I've always had to pay close attention to if I want to be able to walk the next morning. I just received a Thermarest NeoLoft a couple days ago for my birthday and had a chance to blow it up yesterday. Haven't camped with it yet but I passed out within a couple minutes of laying it down in the living room. I tried my back, side, and stomach and was loving it. This is at least my 5th pad in 20+ years. My second fully inflatable (is that what we're calling them?) after multiple self inflating models. It's by far the comfiest and thickest, while somehow also being the lightest and smallest I've owned when rolled up.

I'd say it's at the very least quieter than my Big Agnes that I used most recently. In all honesty at 390lbs every thing is noisy when I toss and turn, but I wouldn't say it's extra noisy or anything. As far as better than self inflating, I'd say yes by a large margin. That being said, I've also got to admit the last self inflating pad I regularly used was probably 10 years ago. I'd assume tech has come a long way since my last self inflating pad but I don't know for sure. I never had one that would ever keep me completely off the ground the entire night. there were always high and low spots and not much insulation back then. If you do go that route at the very least I'd try to find the thickest pad in your budget. Also on noise, maybe a pad cover like the Thermarest Synergy may help as well. I'm looking into that as a little extra protection from dog claws but I'm sure it would dampen noise too.

Another vote for this. If you were my customer, that’s what I would first have you try! Also - thermarest makes straps that will keep two sleeping pads together. [Here’s the link for that.](https://cascadedesigns.com/products/universal-couple-kit)

Thermarest neoloft mattress — makes me feel like I’m sleeping on an actual bed! And no crinkly potato chip noise all night long. I also love my pillow strap so my pillow and I don’t fight all night.

It's super comfortable. I have even used it instead of a regular air mattress when I slept on the floor at my sister's apartment. The stretch fabric on top is killer 👌 If you have more than one of them in a tent though you just need to measure, because they're pretty wide, which is nice for sleeping but can get snug in a tent.

Sorry, just seeing this! I have the wide :)

The neoloft has changed my backpacking sleep to that of car camping comfort levels. I dont see myself buying a new pad anytime soon while this thing holds air.

The thermarest neoloft is tiny too for what it is.

I own the Neoloft. It’s extremely comfortable and the weight penalty isn’t that bad if you’re dealing with a bad back. If you want lighter with good pressure relief either the zenbivy ultralight or sea to summit ether insulated xr.

ThermaRest NeoLoft is the deepest, most plush backpacking sleeping pad on the market right now. It's heavier than almost everything else suggested below, but may be worth a look for you.

I have one and it’s really comfortable. It is heavy and bulkier than the Tensor All Season so if I’m trying to save weight or hike big miles I’ll take the tensor and it’s only slightly less comfortable in my opinion. Big difference in noise of the pad though. Neoloft is quiet.

I second this… tried the Neoloft at an REI and the Exped MegaMat Ultra in MW and bought that instead. I’m a 99% side sleeper and the Neoloft cleft like it was going to catapult me off every time I switched sides. I feel guilty to the UL gods but the Exped is awesome. Excuses the pun but I’m tired of poor sleep!

Just want to add that pad comfort is also HIGHLY dependent on your weight. My theory is the heavier you are the worse pads like the Neoloft will feel because they become even more ballon-like?

neoloft is pretty awesome. it’s ridiculous how thick it is

I tried the new thermarest neoloft at an REI and I was impressed at comfort. Not real world (would want to be sure temp ratings are good), and I’m currently a happy hammocker, but looking at some western us thru’s where the convenience of ground sleeping may change me up- this pad is definitely best comfort I’ve tried.

I use a NeoAir Xlite NXT regular for backpacking, although not perfect, it gets the job done. Biggest complaint is when I sleep on my back, my arms will drape off the sides of the pad. I still sleep well with it. I grabbed the NeoLoft Regular Wide at launch for car camping. I use it for non-backpacking related sleeping. Using a Basesus handheld air inflater for it, it's very luxurious. The Basesus has enough juice to fully inflate it 5 nights. It's a complete dream sleeping on the NeoAir. I don't think I'd ever backpack with it. Just had to comment on how darn comfortable it is. I am a 50/50 side back sleeper.

It’s 100% not ultralight…. But sciatica and other back problems meant 2025 is becoming the year I say fuck it and pack out a ThermaRest Neoloft.  Yeah it’s heavy. But oh my goodness is it comfy. 

I actually just picked it up for campground camping etc. I tried it out in my living room when it came on Fridays and it’s hella comfy. But it’s heavy af and bulky to boot. It’s definitely bigger than my beloved Nalgene. I’d say it would potentially be packable for the backcountry if someone was willing to sacrifice weight and space elsewhere. TBD!

Thermarest NeoLoft. Of course budget and availability need to be factored in, but if you can swing it this thing is like sleeping on a cloud. I'm a side sleeper and have problems falling/staying asleep in my own bed let alone a tent. Laying on the NeoLoft knocks me right out and I don't wake up with sore hips and shoulders. It's not the lightest or most compact and it certainly isn't cheap, but it has been so worth it for me to enjoy camping and backpacking. It's sub-2lb, plenty warm for most reasonable temperatures and isn't as bulky as you'd think.

I tried that pad at rei and it threw a serious monkey wrench in my plans. It’s so comfy for not much of a trade off for weight. Did you get it yet? What size tent are you using? As much as I want to get one, I’m not sure how much room it will take up volume wise in my two person tent. It’s really just my dog and I, so I dont want to take up too much of his room, he does like to get snuggly.

I tried one out at REI and it is awesome. It’s quiet and super comfortable, it also pack down relatively small. They are about a pound and a half, a little more for the wide version. Might be a bit heavy for UL backpackers, I would sacrifice the weight for comfort since I’m not in my 20s anymore.

Thermarest Neoloft. Cry once, sleep tight.

I have it, I still prefer my exped megamat lite 12 lxw, but the Neoloft is smaller and lighter for backpacking and only a little less comfortable.

I’m pretty UL with most of my kit, but my sleeping pad is not one of those things. And I have a neoloft. Best pad I’ve ever known, rivals my exped Megmat in comfort. Absolutely worth the weight. 

I’ve had problems with pads of all kinds. Switched to a wide neoloft. Definitely not ultralight, but I don’t care. Having a good night’s sleep is more important/useful to me than shaving even more weight outta my pack. FWIW I’m ok the lower end of lightweight (my base weight in the Rockies is 13lbs)

Probably isn't the sub for this question, but the Neoloft is the only piece of non-UL gear I use. I like mine. I toss and turn quite a bit and got the wide version. Worth the weight for me since I'd rather carry a bit more and actually sleep than suffer. It's quiet and warm (I think the wide version takes away from the cold complaints). Haven't tried the zenbivvy. I'm a side and back sleeper with a quilt and aside from packing something that's over 2lbs, the Neoloft is the closest I can come to a good night's sleep. However, this choice is just so personal, I'd buy both and try them out at home, keep the temp cool overnight.

Thermarest NeoLoft is the thickest backpacking pad--comparable in size and comfort to a car camping pad. Big Agnes Rapide SL is plush. Neither is "ultra" light, but they are both legit backpacking pads that emphasize comfort. But I also generally use a hammock due to a fussy back.

They get a lot better than the static v.  Try a Big Agnes Rapide SL or, for the most comfort currently available in a backpacking pad, a Thermarest Neoloft. They're huge upgrades especially if you side sleep and for warmth too. The key is to slightly under inflate so that you can sink into the pad a bit.  The extra thickness of these allow you to do so without touching the ground.   A pad will only get you half way though.  A good supportive pillow is integral.  I've tried several inflatable models, the best of which was probably the Nemo Fillo.  However I recently got a camping pillow from Coop which has changed my life.  Got some extra filling too since I side sleep and like a nice thick pillow.  Yes it's bulky and heavy for a backpacking pillow but 1000% worth it.  Stuff it in a compression bag and it gets smaller than my sleeping bag.   Also, wax earplugs to block out the nighttime noises and I now sleep like I'm at home.

I'm 3 inches shorter and 20 LBS heavier. Also a side sleeper. I finally bit the bullet and bought a Therm-a-rest NeoLoft large sleeping pad. 78x26x4.6 inches. Best $250 I have ever spent for back/bikepacking. I'm in my mid 50's and the size/weight penalty is negligible for me. As I've aged I have been slowly decreasing the number of consecutive nights out because of poor sleep. Just did 5 nights out and 4/5 nights were as close to home sleep as I've ever had. Beyond worth it. I plan on tripling the number of nights I spend out this summer.

J'ai aussi un Xtherm et viens de faire l'achat du Néoloft...je ne sais pas si cela vaut la différence vs mon Topo...je le préfère ferme !

I have the Thermarest Neoloft and it is definitely NOT ultralight at 2 pounds. HOWEVER, I still have a base weight of 9.17lbs and at 4.6” thick and 26” across, it is worth the extra weight. I cut out plenty of pleasantries and luxuries. When it comes to sleep, it is worth it to sleep well. The pad is also quiet but is quite large when packed up.

I didn't like either. The flex air (and by extension the Flex UL since it's the same design) is comfortable but has to be filled to maximum to keep me off the ground. If the temp drops overnight the pad would need to be reinflated otherwise my hip gets cold. So I sold it. The neoloft is like a balloon. It has no stability. If you lay on your back stationary it's fine but it may be further disruptive if you toss and turn. 

Therm-a-Rest NeoLoft if your a back or stomach sleeper or Exped MegaMat Ultra if your a side sleeper. But if you have the space in the kayak i would go with the regular Exped MegaMat nothing beats them when it comes to comfort not even your bed at home almost 😉. Regards from a Swedish prepping/outdoor gear reviewer on YouTube 🇸🇪❤️

I agree with the previous post about the Therma rest neoloft. Great for side sleepers. Lots of cushion..comes with a bag to inflate. But check out ETENWOLF air pumps. Small 2.25 ×1.75 × 1.75 inches. Multiple pump ups for single charge . Plus it has a light. Plus it has a setting on the light that Goes. ... - - - ... SOS. Pretty cool. Also have you considered Hammock camping for what you would pay for the therma rest mattress you could be on a great start for a Hammock with bug netting attached and a rainfly. Depending on Mfg.. tons of options are available. Plus if you already have a rainfly you can probably use it Depending on its size. Just some food for thinking

Rocking the Thermarest Neoloft currently and think it might be better than my mattress, which probably means I need a new mattress but still, this is the most comfortable pad I’ve ever owned and I do not regret the $250 spent.

Lots of options if you're okay losing the self-inflating aspect. Thermarest Neoloft or Topo Luxe are two that immediately come to mind. Big Agnes Rapide SL is 3.75"

Look into the thermarest neoloft. The sleep side material is intentionally quiet and soft, the twisting “out” valve allows for precise control when releasing air, and it’s a competitive weight to most other inflatable options out there. I demo’d it at a brand rep’s camp out last month and it was hands down the best night of sleep I’ve had in a tent.

You’re recovering from a back injury, only backpack on weekends, but also want something light? I suggest cutting elsewhere and saving your back. Thermarest Neoloft is apparently the comfiest pad out there. It’s not like you’ll be carrying it 3+ days. Sleep well and sound 💤

Insanely comfortable (and quiet) pad. But a tiny bit on the heavy side, and a bit bulky. Not for those looking to shave weight. But not bad at all for what you get. If one wants comfort, the Neoloft is like none other.

Have you tried lying on the new Therm-a-rest NeoLoft? This thing is amazing. A bit big and bulky to backpack with (though not compared to years ago), but built for absolute comfort. [Link here. ](https://www.rei.com/product/241039/therm-a-rest-neoloft-sleeping-pad)

[Therm-a-Rest NeoLoft. ](https://www.rei.com/product/241039/therm-a-rest-neoloft-sleeping-pad) Nothing else comes close to being as comfortable and (barely) backpackable.

Thoughts from an REI employee: Comfort often comes from a few factors, but don't apply to everyone. Thickness can help a lot. The Thermarest NeoLoft for example is very comfortable, because it's a whopping 4.6" thick, and a great surface. Some pads have some foam in them, not just insulation. This is kind of old school, the original Thermarests were like this. This can be nice and plush because you don't have to dial in the air amount quite as specific. Plus, if it loses air, you're at least sleeping on something other than nylon. The Thermarest Trail Pro comes to mind. A little heavy around 2lbs, so not for the UL crowd. But comfy. There is a lighter version called a Trail Pro Lite. They used to sell a terrific pad called a ProLite Apex, but it was discontinued and may not be coming back. Sea to Summit and a few other brands make pads with some foam in them that are backpackable. These are also (mostly) self-inflating, which is nice. The shape of the pad can also factor in. Some people love how most Big Agnes pads are raised on the sides, to help you stay in place, and not roll off the pad. Most of their pads are thick too, not as thick as the NeoLoft, but thick. The Rapide is a great seller. Other brands do this too. I mentioned surface, some have a really nice brushed surface that also helps keep you from sliding off, and from making noise as you move. The Neoloft as mentioned, but the REI Helix is nice like this too. Baffling is also a factor. Some love "dimpled" pads (like the Helix), some like "tubes" either horizontal or vertical. The choice is yours. Closed cell foam are not comfortable. They are not thick. They are not warm at all. And they are bulky. But they are inexpensive, light, and almost indestructible. Anyone who bought a Ridgerest back in the 1990s likely still has it, and it's probably in like new condition.

I'd highly recommend the Thermarest Neoloft if you get shitty sleep. It is by far the most comfortable sleeping pad on the market aside from those memory foam self-inflating pads like the mega mat. It is a bit heavier at 25 oz for the regular, but has a 4.7 R-value. The wide version has truly vertical walls and each size is an inch or two wider than all most other pads and you get. You can actually use the entire width, unlike Neoair pads, because the sides don't collapse, and they are slightly raised to keep your elbows off the ground. So, if you normally use a wide version, you might be able to get away with a regular. I justify the extra weight because I usually carry an extra foam pad to put under my old Exped Synmat, for higher r-value and to protect from punctures. But the weight of the Neoloft is less than that combination, more durable on the bottom with thicker fabric, and feels like sleeping on a normal mattress. Also, if you normally take a sheet or layer to put between you and the pad for comfort, you can leave that home too because the Neoloft has a tufted stretchy felt feeling top which will keep your back from feeling sweaty. It's also great for side sleepers because it's the thickest backpacking pad on the market and has a stretchy top fabric. Sorry for the ramble, I get excited over gear that I love. But if you actually want to get a good night's sleep and can bare the extra few ounces, it's the clear winner.

Can confirm it's super comfy and the knit material feels really luxurious. Heavy, but for someone who really needs a plush pad, it's a good one.

Sea To Summit Ether Light XR (XT is the old model, definitely go for the XR it's lighter, warmer and pack smaller) is a great all-rounder, one of the best actually when it comes to comfort-weigh-pack size ratio. Other good all-rounders are REI Helix and Zenbivy Ultralight Mattress, both of these has very similar comfort but are slightly heavier. If you seek ultimate comfort there would be there competitors: Zenbivy Flex Air Mattress, ThermaRest NeoLoft and Exped MegaMat Ultra. Each of these are basically best of the class, which one would be the best comes down to personal preferences as each of them using different baffle construction.

Both pads have their drawbacks. The Flex Air is only comfortable when it's not fully inflated, but because it's a relatively thin pad, side sleepers may still feel the ground underneath. Additionally, when under-inflated, it doesn’t come close to providing the listed R-value. On the other hand, the Neoloft is thicker, warmer, and generally more comfortable. However, it lacks good edge support, so if you tend to twist and turn during the night, it may not be the most stable option. Interesting third option would be Exped Megamat ultra, it's very comfortable sleeping pad and definitely more stable than Neoloft.

I love my neoloft for comfort. I have never taken it in chilly temps. I just slept on it for a couple weeks in the alps, it was awesome.

I never slept good backpacking until I got my thermarest neoloft. At 2 lbs it’s a sin for my ultralight mindset, but a good nights sleep is more important to me than shedding that extra weight.

Worth going to an REI and laying on different pads. Went in looking for lightest but came out with heavier Thermarest NeoLoft because it was so damn comfortable. So happy with my decision

Ooooh the new neoloft is insanely comfortable vs something like the klymit static v.

The new neoloft is insanely comfortable and a bit lighter

Yeah I’ve spent 8 nights in it so far. I thought it was very supportive, especially if I let just a tad of air out to soften it. My only complaint is I felt the R value was just a little bit lower than what I wanted (granted it was 28* two of the nights), but I’m also a cold sleeper.

Just tested this for 8 nights in a tent, was fantastic! I don’t have the wide but I am smaller and it works fine for me. The most comfortable sleeping pad I have tried so far. It isn’t loud either but did not have to toss and turn because it was so comfy. Easy to inflate too. I have used a Nemo Tensor and X therm in the past. Super happy with it!

I ended up buying! Not tried in the field and I didn’t buy the wide. It does seem great but won’t know until that first trip in the tent!

The thermarest neoloft looks like the most comfy pad for side sleepers on the market. Its still light enough for backpacking too.

They might do better with the Campmeister (TBD first-hand reviews) for a 'year round' deluxe comfort pad if they can handle the weight & pack size with it's r-value of 7. I can say that I've never experienced a more comfortable pad than the Neoloft (though have only tested indoors) and it's surprising how decently sized it is when packed up (slightly shorter than my reg-wide Xtherm), but there have been a number of reviews suggesting it sleeps colder than its stated R-value (can't speak to that first hand, but REI has a few people saying it was 35F and they were chilly despite the stated 4.7 r value.) Nemo Quasar Insulated only has an r-value in the 3's (a friend has it and loves it for comfort but even in late spring they were a bit chilly.)

What were the temps like where you were camping? I saw one recent REI review where they said they felt it slept colder than the stated R-value. So far I've only tested mine by sleeping indoors when staying with family over the holidays - definitely the most comfortable plush air mattress I've tried (feeling it'll be worth the hefty extra grams for bikepacking this year!) Even with deflating it for extra squish, there's no bouncing around (and certainly no bottoming out) when turning over - no sense of your head getting shoved up when your hip displaces air - the soft stretch top really does a lot to mitigate any balloon feeling. Silent and soft! Have the reg-wide and it packs smaller than my Thermarest XTherm reg-wide, and shorter (but wider in circumference) than my women's large Sea to Summit Comfort Light. Though at 845g, heavier than both. Also found it easy to inflate (took about 5 bags worth of pump-sack air) and deflate/pack up. Now to find ways to save grams in the rest of my gear :D.

We bought these this year and they are fantastic. I coupled mine with a packable cot on a canoe trip I just took and it was more comfortable than by bed at home.

The Neoloft is your answer. Many reviews say that it is the most comfortable (packable) sleeping pad they have ever tried. Get ine at REI and return it if you feel differently.

I was just hunting around for reviews and this comment came up. Don't know if you have tried the pad yourself yet, but I've got three nights on it so far in temperatures ranging from upper 30s to mid 40s and I have been cold on it every night. It wasn't freezing, but it was noticeably cool and feels like an accurate R-value would be significantly lower. I recently took my Uberlite (R-value 2.3) out on a backpacking trip that was colder than expected and got down to 25º. That night the pad felt a little colder than my nights on the Neoloft have been, but not by much. The Uberlite is like the opposite of the Neoloft, in that it has always felt like it's slept warmer than its R-value rating. I've taken that one to near-freezing and still felt fine on it. I got it at REI and intend to take it back.

I've also used both and returned the Neoloft. Its weight and pack size are slightly better than the Megamat Ultra, but I found it worse in every other way. I really like the Megamat Ultra. And just for ul cred, I use it for car camping, not for backpacking.

I almost went with big Agnes. But went with thermarest neoloft wide instead. No noise super warm. So if that Agni’s doesn’t work, that’s and idea for you

Comfiest "Lightweight" matt I've tried. 100% worth the weight.

Thermarest Neoloft, that the post is about.

Justin outdoors just made a video about the most comfortable backpacking sleeping pads! https://youtu.be/aa-wYHCf6Q8 If you are going down to the 30s, I would not recommend the rapide and the s2s. Both have reports of being cold close to freezing. 3.5R is kinda borderline enough insulation and all of those pads are said to sleep colder than their rating. The tensorlite all season is a great pad if you are concerned about weight. If you don't care about weight as much then I recommend the thermarest neoloft or the REI Helix In summary: Most lightweight/best all arounder: Nemo Tensorlite All season Most comfortable: Thermarest neoloft Best value: REI Helix Either way all of these pads are available to try out inflated at my REI so I recommend you do that and see which is most comfortable to you :)

Nice! I'm 4'24 And yeah the neoloft is insanely comfortable. It's like an ultralight version of the exped megamats.

Therm-a-Rest NeoLoft is a nice balance between weight/comfort. The Exped MegaMat is the ultimate in comfort, but it weighs 5 lbs and you'd have to strap it to the bottom of your pack since it's pretty bulky. Use it for car camping and I swear I sleep better on it than my home mattress.

I own the NeoLoft & the NeoAir X-Lite, the NeoLoft is amazing as a side sleeper. It's heavier & bulkier, yes, but a comfortable pad is my indulgence.

I use the NeoLoft almost exclusively now. It’s wide and lets me spread out, or have a leg up to my side while I sleep. I find it a lot more comfortable for side sleeping because of its height/face fabric/width; they’re very different pads. It’s big enough that you do need to consider how it’ll fit with a second pad if you plan to share a shelter.

Neoloft is even better. Its brand new and beats the rapide. Great for big dudes

I do like to sleep comfortably when backpacking, and have spent a lot of time trying to figure out what works best for me. I've tried many pads over the past decades, including these two, along with similar Exped sleeping pads like the Ultra, Versa, and Dura. I am primarily a side sleeper, so that informs some of my sleeping experience on these, and am 190cm and 95kg. Personally I was not able to sleep comfortably on the Exped MegaMat Lite, or its siblings (Dura/Versa/Ultra). A through-line in my testing of these is the vertical baffling: I regularly wake up and find my arm is numb. I think these might work better for me if I was primarily a back or chest sleeper; lots of people like them and recommend them. But in my adulthood I've probably maximum only got about two hours of sleep at a time on a design like these. I have only had to contact Exped for warranty once, and they ended up shipping me a new unit before I even had to send the old one back: top marks here in support. I just picked up the Therm-a-rest NeoLoft before the holidays and took it on two trips in Mt Hood National Forest. Maybe the most comfortable backpacking pad I've personally used recently, even if the large (long wide, 78x26) weighs 2lbs! When fully inflated it is 4.6" thick. One of the few pads I've slept more than six straight hours on, which is kind of how I prioritize pads. Not only comfortable, but has a soft-touch stretchy fabric which feels good against the skin (I tend to sleep with quilts rather than bags). The first night I did wake up to find my arm was numb, so curious if that was a one-off with a weird sleeping position... R-value is 4.7, so I haven't used it at all in the past 45 days because of the cold where I am. It looks like the REI exclusivity is now over in early 2025, and this can be picked up lots of different places. Honestly the thing I dislike the most is the valves; I just don't care for the old-style Therm-a-rest valves. Realizing your question was specifically about those two, I also wanted to recommend what I have found to be my most comfortable pads in recent years: 1. Sea to Summit Ether Light XT Extreme Insulated. This specific pad and its sibling, Ether Light XT Insulated, have been my primary pads the past four-ish years. They are 4" thick and the most comfortable pads I've used, probably tied with the NeoLoft. Never woken with my arm numb, and the only pad I've ever slept seven-plus hours straight-through. In the PNW I use the non-Extreme-variant in the warmer half of the year, and the Extreme-variant in the colder half. The stuff sack with the inflation aid built-in is the smartest I've seen. Extreme version has an r-value of 6.2, and the non-Extreme version r-value is 3.2. The Extreme has that spider-web looking Thermolite insulation, which in my mind is the most reliable winter/cold insulation; it doesn't crinkle and potentially fail like newer thin reflective films in other lighter pads (NEMO Tensor, Big Agnes Rapide, etc). On the flip side that makes the Extreme very heavy, more than 2lbs, and also packs down the biggest of any backpacking pad I've owned. 2. REI Helix. Been using this on-and-off for the past few seasons. One of the few pads that has me sleeping through the night. It is only 3" thick, but I have found the trick is to fully inflate: the dimples do a good jump of evening out my weight and not experiencing any arm numbness. The long wide is 1lb 13oz, and seems pretty sturdy compared to other REI-brand pads I've used in the past; no leaks yet... R-value of 4.9. I always wake up refreshed and feeling good on those mats, baring any environmental issues outside of the pad. I cannot recommend the NeoLoft in that way yet, but will continue to use and test it out in the near future with an additional foam pad underneath to make it safe for snow conditions (as the r-value stacks). And I don't think I will ever recommend an Exped pad for backpacking. Exped does make fantastic foam inflating car-camping pads though!

Grabbed it during the sale. Enjoyed it!

One thing that can work well to stay lightweight is bring a small section of CCF/Z-Lite pad to place on top of your sleeping mattress for your shoulder/torso area. This can give you a nice softer surface which can help with the pressure points causing shoulder pain.  That said I just upgraded to the Thermarest Neoloft pad myself as I also have issues with comfort, the long/wide weighs 2lbs but seems worth it for me to gain better sleep. Maybe have a look at that one as well which has been reviewed & tested a lot further compared to the megamat ultra.

Chiming back in as I now have both Megamat Ultra LXW (weighs 39oz pad only) & Neoloft Large (31oz pad only) for head to head comfort comparison. To me the Neoloft wins, not by a ton but it definitely feels more soft and plush overall, especially for side sleeping. Both pads have similar knit fabric material as the top material however the Megamat has a bit of a stiffer plastic backing type feel which reminds me of all other plastic sleeping pad materials. You can see the Megamat fabric has a printed pattern to it, where the Neoloft is a slightly softer feeling knit fabric with no print pattern. The first moment I laid down on the neoloft it was completely unlike any backpacking sleeping pad I have ever experienced. Lush and plush, soft and cozy. This is what a bed should feel like. For reference I like a slightly softer inflation since i'm mostly a stomach and side sleeper. I found the comfort sweet spot of both pads was deflated enough so my hip sunk in but was still a good bit above the ground when side sleeping, yet when sitting fully upright my butt would touch the ground. Moving back and forth laying on both mats you can definitely feel the difference. I like the extra 4" width of the Megamat (I have the LXW). As reported elsewhere the Megamat definitely feels a bit more stable overall compared to the Neoloft, but at the cost of some plushness and comfort. In my opinion the Megamat vertical baffles don't help with comfort at all, though they might help with the feeling of support if thats what someone was looking for. Not for me. Overall to me the Neoloft wins in this specific shootout where comfort is king above all else, which hey, is why we are willing to use a 2lb sleeping pad after all. Also yes the Megamat packed size is considerably bigger vs. the Neoloft. Actually surprised at how normal the packed size of the neoloft is. Both pads took 6 full inflation sacks of air to get fully inflated. Given I dont want that extra bulk I think its time to invest in a pad pal pump, or maybe that new aerogogo giga pump air for under 1oz. I am happy the Neoloft won the comfort test because its 7oz lighter on my scale vs. the Megamat, packs down smaller, and also uses a 50d fabric for the bottom (30d for the Megamat). I truly feel like the Neoloft pad is a major game changer for comfort, compared to the \~10 other pads I have tried throughout the past 5 years, and am excited to add it to my otherwise ultralight setup.

For a while, being broad-shouldered, I thought I needed a wide pad but eventually learned how to sleep with a 20” wide pad. But before that, I cut the bottom 21” off my regular wide Thermarest and found that easy to adapt to. It reduced the weight of a 16 oz mattress to only 12 oz, as well as reducing bulk. Cutting a thermarest mattress is surprisingly easy. The key is to cut such that your knees are supported by the pad. The feet can rest on your backpack, spare clothes, and/or sit pad. More comfortable than you would think.

2 things here, time of year is key, the other is age. even late spring, in the uplands in the UK you can get hyperthermia pretty easily without decent ground insulation. You mention student, so i'm guessing circa 17-22. You should be able to sleep on a roll mat just fine at thatt age with, esp after a day's hard PT in the outdoors. For this if you want to save money, forget amazon entirely and look at an army foam matt, or a thermarest one if want to buy from a regular shop. Both will keep you alive and insulated in all weathers. As for airpads, they are a liability. I know i've had most brands over the years and the reality is there is no cutting corners. Sure can get a cheap one from amazon, say trekology one of the better one's but know it will fail, and its not a question of if, but when. Note a non insulated airpad, you will have a very very uncomforable night, as in freezing. I've been all over, all different terrains and super remote, a hard foam matt will never fail and you should always carry one, even if you have a top of the range airmat, because without one, if the airpad fails your screwed. As for air pads themselves. My advice is having tried all leading brands, save up and get a thermorest neoair (avoid uber) and go for a xtherm if wanting winter, and the normal(yellow) one if 3 season. yes they are expensive but if they fail (which out of all the matt's ive had over the years are the most reliable) the customer service is second to none, you will get a replacement. So you can buy x number of cheap pads without any ability to get a replacement a year down the road, but over the seasons it adds up. So best advice, is save up a little, make home brew to save money lol, and buy once, but buy quality. The other thing is sleeping bags, and again that becomes very costly. If your young and thus should be fit and thus your not worrying about every gram, look no further than uk ex military surplus stock for sleeping systems/bags. They will last, are well proven and just work.

If i am car camping.... I am crazy bougie. I bring my aerobed and use my big anker solar battery to blow it up. If i am backpacking, i just use my backpacking thermarest.

The suggestion of a rental is a good idea if you currently aren’t interested in making this a hobby! If you are looking to buy, however, the foam Therm-o-Rest pads are the classic camping pad that everyone owns one of. They z-fold up into a rectangular stack and are relatively light and cheap. I’m 40 and need a little extra cushion on the trail these days, so I use an air mattress. Therm-o-rest has some decent priced air mattresses, but they are a little spartan compared to some of the more expensive air mattresses.

I have had to sleep on some pretty rocky spots before. Firstly, I would gather any fallen twigs leaves and foliage to try and even out the floor and take the edge off the sharp bits. Then ideally I’d put a CCF pad down before getting on a thermarest inflatable. But I have bivied directly on some hard rock platform with just a bivi bag and an uberlite between me and the ground. It was piles of dead leaves and thin branches that made the difference. Turned out okay. I was doing an ultralight fast packing trip and was in the middle of some nasty forestry tree plantation on a steep slope by the time the sun was going down. Decent spots were very rare so I ended up sleeping on top of an out cropped boulder.

Both times I’ve hiked the PCT my thermarests have popped in the desert . The first time it was an older thermarest that had already seen a bit of action . The second time it was early on in my hike and it was the one I’d replaced the previous one with! After that I went CCF pad and was absolutely fine with it. In many ways, I prefer it.

For me the thermarest warranty has been worth its weight in gold, it’s an inflatable product that’s exposed to the elements, they’ll all get damaged eventually but every interaction I’ve had with them has been amazing, no questions asked replacement or repair

Me and my husband sleep on an air mattress with seperate blankets and sleeping bags, before that we had two thermarest that aired up

Have you considered a camping cot? There are a lot of ultralight options now which are about the same price as a good sleeping pad for side sleepers. The only difference being is the weight, you’re looking at around 1.5kg for a cot bed which would be double the weight of a sleeping pad. For me, the extra weight is worth it for the comfort. For context I’ve tried Therm-a-Rest, Big Agnes and Nemo mats. If I’m going for comfort, the cot bed wins every time.

For one year trip I would use something cheaper, more sturdy than ultralight. Thermarest often listed is great but £50 decathlon air mat is more sustainable, you'll have less stress. To increase R factor, you can add some CCF pad.

It's very simple if it blows up with air and inflates - at SOME point it's gonna get a hole in it. That's life! The whole air mattress thing started with Therm-a-rest's and they were pretty tough back then, now with everybody sporting hard-on's for "ultralight" gear its gonna get worse. Same goes for actual air mattress, you can sleep on them but if you're not in Texas or Arizona yer still gonna freeze your butt off. Here's why ....... People these days buy inflatable pads for the comfort, but you really need them for the insulative qualities they actually provide. Don't believe me go sleep on the actual ground one night. When you crawl in to your sleeping bag you actually crush the down or syntho fill in the bag so there is no insulation there under you and the cold even in summer can seep right in. You need a pad under you to keep you off the ground ..... the best ones for that are still the cheap blue ensolite foamy's you buy at the cheaper stores but yes, for comfort they suck. There is a yellow thicker brand called Zotefoams Evazote and they got up to an inch thick but I haven't seem them for years but they were good quality and tough and CAN'T deflate ! So ultimately if you want comfort you need to go buy a big chunk of open cell white foam four inches thick and 7 feet long like you see in hobby stores - mega comfy and the size of a house! But now you can't pack it anyway so you're back to the blow up pads - and that's it. You can go to stores and look at stuff like Futons and crap but they don't pack well ! Heck even Ikea makes a folding mattress but again good luck carrying it around, right? Pick one but they WILL get a hole in them at some point however you can try to limit that with a cot. I've used them for years and its nice. I'm gonna suggest a Cabella's Lounger Cot but they are $350 bloody bucks and the same goes a real camping pad, something like a Exped Megamat itself is $400 bucks by itself. The two cots I wanna get are gonna cost me $405 bucks so add in two decent pads like Expeds and they're $500 .... great huh? It's nuts at a thousand bucks! I actually might just go get some memory foam cut at an RV store and use that. They can't deflate and its about the same bloody price as these inflatable ones, granted it won't be near as packable and portable but both my Thermarest leak, both my Big Agnes pad leak, even the TWO Coleman air beds leak, you can't win. My tent is 210 sq feet and 10 feet tall so I don't need backpack-ability either ........

This comes up a lot. Search the sub for ‘mat’ for loads of replies. For me, thermarest, but I’ll break your budget unless you can get one second hand.

we each have a folding cot with a thermarest and a sleeping bag. we go car camping so it all fits in the back seat and the trunk. We also have (what they call) a seven person tent, but it fits our cots and a folding table comfortably, and we can stand up in it.

I did the PCT with just the thermarest and it was fine. I did the AZT with Thermarest and 1/8" foam pad and it was awesome. I slept much warmer and it was very nice to have the foam pad for breaks.

If you plan to sleep in shelters at all, you definitely want something under your pad to protect it from splinters and nails. My first thermarest popped in TN due to me raw dogging it in shelters. For my second pad, I got a sheet of tyvek and it made it all the way to Maine without any issues.

Have you actually tried the Klymit? I’m pretty sure it’s up there with thermarest in terms of popular backpacking mats. I’ve always used thermarests. That Coleman mat looks like it’s made for car camping, not backpacking. You should be able to find the R-value of the Klymit pad on the packaging to find out if it’s insulated or not.

Well if you need quality, comfort and light easy portable one… term a rest is just the best in the market. We use those for 20 years down here wile fly fishing in bariloche, patagonia Argentina. Good luck!👍

Cot and thermarest is boss. I use a folding wide, heavy duty woods cot. It’s heavy and has some bulk, but I’m usually near my truck or boat.

I’ve been using. Therma-rest for years. There might be better tech out there these days, but they’ve always served me well.

Yup. Those thick air mattresses are horrible to share with another person. I go with a good, solid cot with a thermarest for some padding and will never look back. For excursions where the cot is too bulky to bring along, the thermarest works fine.

We have a similar cot and thermarest. Very comfortable, and keeps us warm. We only camp in winter, early spring and fall.

Op zolder liggen 2 thermarest matten waar ik als kind nog op geslapen heb toen ik met m'n ouders kampeerde, 20-25 jaar geleden. Basic matjes, niet enorm dik maar tot ik m'n huidige (totaal niet compacte) tweepersoons van Redwood kocht altijd goed op geslapen.

i used a cot camping a few times with a thermarest on top. pros: off the ground and good on my back. cons: arms hung over the sides and hurt in the morning, pillow kept sliding off, wobbled long ways (not side to side) a lot when i moved around. i recommend an extra wide one to help w the arms hanging off the sides or use a sleeping bag. in the end it was heavy and not worth it for me when camping

I have no complaints about my thermarest. I can even sleep on my side without hip pain. OK, well it is a little noisy.

My thermarest is over 25 years old and I think had one leak that I patched. maybe?

I like my Thermarest. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Excellent mattress! I used it with pleasure but then switched to the thermarest which is lighter and I feel great with it.

I haven't had a good night sleep until I started to use the Rapid SL. It has a good weight I think, the R rating is valid on it, only need higher for winter camping (for that i'm using the therm-o-rest, which is crazy good, except the shape, where i much prefer the rectangle shape of the Rapide with the raised sides, because I'm turning around a lot). To fit the pump you do need to be a bit aggressive with it but doable. Side note: a non fully inflatable pillow made a big difference for me to get comfy 

I am twisting and turning around a lot even after I fell asleep and with the mummy shaped pad I often found myself halfway off the pad in the middle of the night.

I've had thermarest since their inception. Great product

I havepunctured 2 thermarests on rocks pr thorns. I won’t be using them again.

what brands? i only use thermarest bc they're the most reliable

Nope, have had mine for 10 years, still noisy.

Something like a Thermorest may be a good solution. They pack down small, are lightweight but robust, are an ok size and provide good ground insulation for those chilly Alpine nights

I fly with my thermarest

I like the one I have, it’s as old as I am

I have one Exped and one Therm-a-rest in this style. At first, they’re great. Over time, the Exped began to leak, and I think the TaR is now doing the same. As best I can tell, the rubber lining inside the fabric begins to slowly degrade and develop pinhole leaks. You never hear leaking air. You just wake up in the morning with your hip touching the ground (I’m a side sleeper). I stored both fully extended, with the valves open, so keeping them compressed in the sack was not the problem.

I have a neo air - cost a bomb when I got it about ten years ago. Definitely worth it - warm and comfy! Before that I "borrowed" my auntie's thermarest back in 2003 - that was a few years old then. I think I only made one repair.

Yeah that is actually weird. When I bought my thermarest it was around 100 €, tough as nails, just under a kilo and I've never been cold on it even in sub freezing (the R-value is low though) But it seems the 100 € pad category has either gone extinct or prices have inflated.

I bought a thermarest. I do not believe in blow up mats because a pinhole means you wake up two hours later lying on the ground cold as fuck wishing you had bought something else, then spending an hour trying to find a way to warm up when you’ve already fucked that chance.

My gunner and I would stick a pair of stretchers in the back of our Bradley—quality sleep right there. (If you’re not blessed with being mech infantry—why let your ruck ride you when you can ride your ruck?—I always went thermarest)

I got my thermarest on ebay for a good price