Z Lite Sol

Well you didn't mention seasonality, comfort, or size, but closed cell foam (e.g. nemo switchback; thermarest z lite sol) fits your desire for durability and weight

wondering how often you slept in a shelter vs sleeping in your tent? I personally used to love CCF pads but have found them not to work on the hard shelter floors. I switched to an airpad for my thru since I planned on sleeping in shelters more often than not. I really enjoyed my airpad, but will still use my Zlite Sol when just doing short overnighters now

Tämä on aika päinvastainen vastaus kun mitä kysyit, mutta muut ovat jo suositelleet halpoja vaihtoehtoja, kerron vaihtoehtoisesti premium-vaihtoehdon. Jos haluat kerralla hyvän, niin Cumulus myy parasta hinta-laatusuhdetta Euroopassa (pl. jos löydät jonkun supertarjous-poistotuotteen jostain myymälästä). Esim Panyam 600 on aika varma suomen oloihin. Noiden kokoja voi myös kustomoida kohtuuhintaan, jos et ole ihan standardimittainen. Jos haluat alustan jolla pärjää talvella ja kesällä, niin esim. Thermarest X-therm. Jos haluat vähän kevyempää, eikä tarvi olla ihan niin lämmin, niin thermarestin neoair xlite. Myös nemon tensorit on aika hyviä. Tai jos kovuus ei haittaa, niin solumuovi on varma, kestävä ja halpa vaihtoehto, esim Thermarest Z sol. Nämä on toki huomattavasti kalliimpia kuin tuo 200€ budjetti. Jos budjetti rajoittaa tiukasti, niin käytetty on hyvä vaihtoehto. Katso esim kevytretkeilijöiden myyntipalsta facebookista. Jos vaellus kiinnostaa harrastuksena muutenkin kuin mennä lähilaavulle, niin osta kerralla kevyttä. /r/ultralight on hyvä foorumi. Jos tulee kysyttävää niin kysy, oon aika syvällä kaninkolossa.

I ordered both mats, the ZLite SOL and the Yamatomichi UL Pad 15+, both in the short one-meter version. After trying them on the floor at home, I honestly couldn’t feel any real difference in comfort. The main advantage of the UL Pad 15+ is the weight. It’s about 70-90 grams lighter at the same length, which is a nice bonus if you’re counting grams. The downside is packing it, because it doesn’t fold nearly as well as a ZLite or a Switchback. What works okay for now is using it as a tube inside the backpack and packing everything else inside that tube. It gives the pack a bit of structure, but I’ll only know how practical it really is once I have all my gear together for the trip. That’s when I’ll see whether the ZLite packs better overall or whether the Yamatomichi tube system ends up being good enough. In the end I’ll go with whichever option integrates better inside the pack, since attaching a pad on the outside isn’t really an option for me at the moment. In terms of comfort they feel very similar to me. The UL Pad wins on weight and the ZLite wins on packability

If money is a concern, buy a Thermarest Z Lite Sol and put your pad on top of it.

Have used a Therm-A-Rest Neoair Topo Luxe Balsam Large since 2022.  3.7R value, 4" "tall" so you can let out some air to get comfortable. Sleep on the side and stomach mostly.  When really cold I'll pack a Therm-a-Rest Z-lite Sol which is 5.7R value combined. 680 grams ish (1.5lb), compact and easy to deflate. To inflated it I just being a Aerogogo GIGA Pump 4.0, which is awesome 

Most basic and pretty inexpensive, ignoring the shelter. Two Nemo switchback/zlites (whatever cheap foldable CCF you can get cheaply) One MYOG Rayway apex double quilt. Zips in half so the bulk can be split. Make sure you add draft collar and skirt to it. Why no cuddles when you smell? Do you really notice when your SO is stinky from hiking? I dont. I'm focused on how great of a team we are. It's awesome.