Zenbivy - Base Mattress

Any of the Nemo Tensor line is great and not loud and Zen Bivy also makes really good pads as well. That will likely be the next one I buy.

Anything is better than 2 yoga mats. I hear lots of people talking about exped. I have a klymit, which is okay and not too expensive, a couple of self inflating (Coleman and zenbivy), which are better but heavier, and just got a sea to summit that I haven’t tried yet. But you don’t need a giant inflator, many come with an inflation sack or you can get a small rechargeable pump from flextail.

Fair enough. Thanks for the info, especially the bit about not being too hot when it was 60. Aside from potentially comfort, any other concerns or disappointments with it? I ordered an ether light xt but ended up returning it. Mostly because the pack size (of the regular version) was slightly larger than expected, and just reading about all of the weld-point failures, etc. But from a comfort perspective it seemed pretty comfortable. I ended up ordering a zenbivy which I find extremely comfortable (I never had a chance to compare them side by side, but I believe zenbivy is more comfortable (and smaller) - however if you need high insulation (the pro version), or if you easily bottom out on a mat, then the extra width of this mat probably makes it the most comfortable on the market in that case. I can't imagine they are less comfortable than last version since it appears to be the same technology and outer fabric. So the fact that the high insulation version is now reflective film, packs down WAY smaller, supposedly stronger welds, and quieter (I didn't have an issue with the loudness, but I never took it out and put it to use in my tent). This will likely be my spare pad. I might end up doing Tour du Mont Blanc with a friend, and he doesn't hike/camp nearly as much as me. I already have an extra quilt, so if I have a comfortable extra sleeping mat then it allows me to bring friends along without them needing their own expensive gear. Then I'll probably compare the zenbivy side by side with the XR Pro. Thanks again for the quick response.

If you have one nearby, REI has sleeping pads blown up you can lay on and test out. Everyones body and sleeping preferences are different. Once you figure out what kind of baffles you prefer, finding a sleeping pad will come easier as there are so many options. Especially if weight isn't an issue. I have a Nemo Tensor. It has quilted baffles. Everyone loves it, and it hurts my back and hips so bad. I also have an Exped pad and one from Zenbivy with vertical baffles. I love these. They cradle my body better. Thermarest is super popular. Most are horizontal baffles. They don't look comfy to me but it seems like people sleep well on them. Sea to Summit and Big Agnes are other popular sleeping pad brands. What kind of temps are you expecting? You'll want to choose a pad with an R value appropriate to your camping needs. Most choose a 3 season with an R value between 2-4. I would stick on the upper end if you're a cold sleeper.

seconded--zenbivy sorta gets pigeonholed as a luxury system. but the pads a la carte are dope and very competitive/light while still being ultra comfortable