Exped - Ultra Series

I've been sleeping on a exped 3R every night at home for a couple of years. I roll it up to take hiking when I get the chance too. For me, it's the bees knees. I've got the 5r for colder hikes. The sides being bigger help me stay on it if I'm on uneven ground, a plus at times. I no longer shop for pads!

I've been sleeping on a exped 3R every night at home for a couple of years. I roll it up to take hiking when I get the chance too. For me, it's the bees knees. I've got the 5r for colder hikes. The sides being bigger help me stay on it if I'm on uneven ground, a plus at times. I no longer shop for pads!

I sleep on a Exped Ultra 5r AT HOME every night. If I ain't worried over big miles, I take it backpacking. Cradles me just right with the outer "tubes" a little fatter than the midle ones. And I recommend a pillow that's tall enough for side sleeping. I usually take a thermarest x-lite on longer sections though, a little lighter and sleeps fine too.

If the Prolite works great for you, why not keep it and cut weight elsewhere? Pads are quite subjective, like recommending shoes. I agree it's a grail hunt, I've went through a bunch too! The Neoair is my go-to, the Exped Ultra is my favorite, and I can get by on a z-lite in warmer weather.

I’ve tried both. Took the Rapide back to REI. I did not find it all that comfortable and not very warm. I tried and kept the Exped Ultra 5R mummy style. Comfy and warm. I also have a Neoair Xlite. The Exped is more comfortable, but the Xlite is a bit warmer. That said the Exped is my go to.

I sleep cold and have found Ultra Exped pads to be very warm. R ratings don’t always transfer well to the real world with some brands/insulation types. Are they the lightest, no, but sleeping well is more important. I also have a down sleep hood and booties I wear. Look on AliExpress, super cheap and light. In very cold weather I use a down bag with a synthetic quilt on top. Very warm and the best of both worlds. I like the heavy fleece base layer from the company 32 degrees. Cheap, light and warm. It’s much warmer than wool.

I am an Exped Ultra 3R and 5R fan. I feel like they are highly underrated in the hiking community. My opinion is they sleep warmer than rated, are super comfortable, quite and cost less than a lot of pads. Just an FYI if you want another possibility/option. Edit: Sorry, I forgot this was Ultralight. I was thinking it was the Appalachian Trail sub.

I am an Exped Ultra 3R and 5R fan. I feel like they are highly underrated in the hiking community. My opinion is they sleep warmer than rated, are super comfortable, quite and cost less than a lot of pads. Just an FYI if you want another possibility/option. Edit: Sorry, I forgot this was Ultralight. I was thinking it was the Appalachian Trail sub.

Exped utra pads are great and highly underrated. Zen bivy light half sheet and light quilt is amazing with it. Game changer for me.

Exped Ulrta 3R or 5R. It's my favorite. I only use the 3R and pair it with a CCF pad in cold weather.

I backpack a lot and have a lot of bad back issues. I always dial my gear in at home before going into the field. I like Exped Ultra pads, I mostly use the 3R. They are highly underrated and are super comfortable for me. I use the trekology pillow. I have expermented with two in the past but I am back to one. I have used sleeping bags and quilts. Bags are out for me. Quilts are more comfortable. This year I went with the Zen Bivy light bed and it is very comfortable. I flip and flop all night and love this quilt/half sheet so far. I can get into any position for comfort.

I use the Exped Ultra 3r and love it. Their pads are highly underrated.

I second that, I have one of there down mats for the past 10 years, its the only thing I wouldn't leave home with out. I'm also a side sleeper and have always felt like I'm at home sleeping in bed.

its a old model, looking at there website the ultra 7R would be the replacement. [https://www.exped.com/en/products/sleeping-mats/ultra-7r?sku=7640445454612](https://www.exped.com/en/products/sleeping-mats/ultra-7r?sku=7640445454612) its over kill for summer but @ 855g why not

Would also recommend the Exped Ultra 3R. Get the wide version if you plan to be camping a lot of the time!

The Exped 3R in the mummy shape is only 13 oz and packs very small. I find it really comfortable, r-value of 2.9 is fine for spring/summer.

There’s lighter/less warm Exped pads too - I use the Ultra 3R and got it on sale for $100 a few months ago. I almost got the 5R but wanted the lighter weight pad. The R value of the 3R is warm enough for my trips and I can add a foam pad to push it into winter temps.

Nice! It’s my first Exped pad and they seem to really fly under the radar.

I’m a sidesleeper that also uses an Exped pad (3R). I find it very comfortable and it’s light and warm enough for my purposes. I have the standard mummy shape.

After most of a thru with a 3R it's the only sleeping pad I would ever want on the AT. Comes with great pump sack. Get in a bag on top of it for winter.

Exped Ultra 3R. Just slept on mine for a week straight with a quilt. Sure it’s no Exped Megamat but it’s way comfier than any backpacking pads I’ve used. Good fabric feel against the skin. Warm. Pretty bomber construction.

I currently use an Exped Ultra 7R which packs smaller, is lighter, and has an additional 2 R value than the S2S pad. They also have a 5R pad that’s even lighter. I have yet to find any down side to Exped other than they’re a bit on the costly side. I’m not sure about the S2S pad, but many 4 season pads have a crinkling sound from the reflective insulation layer, but my pad is much more muffled than most others with that layer. The noise alone is a winner for me since I tend to move a lot while sleeping.

I currently use an Exped Ultra 7R which packs smaller, is lighter, and has an additional 2 R value than the S2S pad. They also have a 5R pad that’s even lighter. I have yet to find any down side to Exped other than they’re a bit on the costly side. I’m not sure about the S2S pad, but many 4 season pads have a crinkling sound from the reflective insulation layer, but my pad is much more muffled than most others with that layer. The noise alone is a winner for me since I tend to move a lot while sleeping.

Budget? Exped ultra 7R is amaaaaazing but pricey af. We got ours on a 50%off sale and are so happy with them

My mind was actually blown with the exped. I’m a side sleeper (worse, a twisted 3/4 to the side sleeper) and even though the things like two inches thick it’s legitimately as comfortable as my bed at home. Also it’s extremely warm and cozy in the cold but somehow feels nice and cool in the summer! I use it on the ground or in my hammock depending on my mood and it’s never let me down

Same. Love the 3R (not slippery, not noisy, vertical baffles and “rails”) but really jealous of the Tensor Elite weight. Now, if Tensor made the Elite in a 25”, I’d buy it in a heartbeat.

Be careful with the 3R mummy. I was considering this, but a lot of folks find Exped’s mummy cut too aggressive at the top and at the bottom. Compare vs. Nemo and TR.

I’ve only slept on the neoair and the exped from that list. I find the exped a little more comfortable to sleep on, but still always take the neoair because of the lighter weight, which is more comfortable in my pack. I am more of a rotisserie sleeper, but 1/3 of the time I’m on my back. I always opt for the 25” width because, well, I was born with arms and elbows! I cut my neoair down to 50” and use my backpack and sit pad under my feet. I don’t experience any discomfort from that setup and save 3-4 ounces thereby. I’m not sure I could cut my exped because of the baffle orientation. I keep it only to loan to friends.

Love my Exped 5R but learned the expensive way, 1st bought a Klymit Static V for $60 on sale (r rating is not real and the valve broke after 1 year) then Nemo Tensor (love it unless I’m camping with my partner in which case the crinkling chip bag sound kept them awake all night) and finally tried the Exped and now I don’t use anything else!

Exped 5R is awesome. May be a little out of the price range but worth it.

A more modern foldable ultralight ccf sleeping pad. Like the ones in Decathlon. And then combine that with an inflatable like the Xtherm or Exped Ultra 7r. Many say the Exped is more comfortable. Those are the two pads I'd trust.

+1 on this, I tried several pads (foam and inflatable) as a side sleeper and the Expeds are AMAZING. I actually get good nights sleep on trail with them and they’re pretty good in terms of weight. I’ve got the 3R, 5R, and 7R versions now. The inflating part takes some getting used to (“schnozzle bag”) but is kinda fun. At least they don’t advertise themselves as “self-inflating” like some other pads that don’t actually self inflate.

+1 on this, I tried several pads (foam and inflatable) as a side sleeper and the Expeds are AMAZING. I actually get good nights sleep on trail with them and they’re pretty good in terms of weight. I’ve got the 3R, 5R, and 7R versions now. The inflating part takes some getting used to (“schnozzle bag”) but is kinda fun. At least they don’t advertise themselves as “self-inflating” like some other pads that don’t actually self inflate.

+1 on this, I tried several pads (foam and inflatable) as a side sleeper and the Expeds are AMAZING. I actually get good nights sleep on trail with them and they’re pretty good in terms of weight. I’ve got the 3R, 5R, and 7R versions now. The inflating part takes some getting used to (“schnozzle bag”) but is kinda fun. At least they don’t advertise themselves as “self-inflating” like some other pads that don’t actually self inflate.

+1 for Exped and lengthwise baffles.

Exped Ultra 5R Mummy – Priced at $159.95, but worth picking up on sale if you can wait. Weighs 445g with a 4.8 R-Value. I find it comfortable. I was considering some cheaper options like Naturehike and Kilos Gear, but after hearing mixed reviews, I decided to spend a bit more on the Exped pad.

I like my Exped 3R. Doesn’t sound like a potato chip bag when you move around.

I have three; Exped Ultra 5R, Exped Flex, and Exped Deep Sleep. Ultra & Flex are my backpacking pads and the Deep Sleep is for car camping. Side and back sleeper that runs hot. Spring/summer/fall in the PNW. Go wide/long since you like to roll around.

Exped Ultra 3r. Exped are by far the most comfortable inflatables. I loved my Exped so much, slept like a baby every night.

Yeah, I thru hiked with the older version, the Exped SynMat UL mummy (just an old name, same pad as the ultra 3r, I think). Slept like a baby every night. Exped airpads are awesome!

I've had my exped for around 4 years now, and it's never let me down. Was concerned at how fragile it seems, but I've slept in some spikey places and never had an issue. [this ](https://www.expeduk.com/products/ultra-1r) is the current version of what I've got, and can't praise it enough.

I skimmed past your price point, sorry! The exped is very comfortable in my experience, significantly more than the neoair. I don't have personal experience with the other pads but I used to have an older reai pad that used the same tech that I found slightly more comfortable than the neoair, so of your list, I'd take the exped.

+1 for exped 5r, its heat transfer resistance is amazing at only 555g

Totally agree on the Ultra, I've got an Ultra 3R currently that is my 3-season pad but the Elite is substantially lighter and isn't really a direct competitor, Uberlite was discontinued ostensibly because of the high failure rates and warranty claims/returns.

Tensor Elite listed specs are 20x72 at 8.5 ounces . Exped ultra 3r in the mirrored mummy 20.5x72 configuration is 12.9 ounces. 8.5 ounces vs 12.9 ounces. So not half the weight It's 1.5x the weight, not 2x. And it's warmer and way more durable

Exped Ultra 7R has been amazing. If you’re not an absolute unit it’s on sale at camofire right now for $99. Quite a steal really.

G'Day Practical, I've had an Exped Synmat which I recently replaced with an Exped 5R (I haven't used this yet, but it is the successor the Synmat). The Synmat lasted quite a few years and I was very happy with it. Both mats are rectangular rather than tapered so I think you will be less likely to slide off it. I certainly never had any problems, which is why I bought the 5R. Regarding sleeping bags, I have a three season bag (Exped Ultralite 300, \~300 g down) which I can pair with an inner bag (Macpac Snowflake, 130 g down). I used this combination (along with a silk inner sheet) in Nepal up to 4000 m (in accommodation) and was always comfortable. Note, you didn't mention having an inner sheet. If you do not have one, I advise you to get one (silk, not cotton). I think it is worth buying quality products from reputable manufacturers. They will last you a long time and be reliable.

Fellow Edmontonian here! You can't go wrong with an exped for your sleeping mat. My wife and I are avid backpackers, and have used a double wide exped for numerous years with zero issue. We also share a double sleeping bag from big agnes, but upgraded to a quilt from Enlightened Equipment this year (haven't gotten out yet to test it however). Which trails are you hiking in Jasper and Banff? When during the season are you going? Altitude and time will also have an impact on the warmth rating you choose.

I have a Nemo Tensor, Thermarest NeoAir X-Lite, and an Exped Ultra. My favorite of the 3 is the Exped. I haven't used the Rapide, but I'd put it in the same class as the ones I have. At that point, they are all so similar, buy the one that is the most comfortable for you. $20-30 less or more at that price point isn't huge, and is 100% worth it for more comfort.

Stick with the foam imo! Although foam won't necessarily be the most comfortable option to sleep on when camping on hard surfaces (which can be mitigated with site selection), it offers comfort in other ways. It's comfortable in that it's very low-maintenance: it'll never pop or develop a leak, and it'll never deflate in the middle of the night. You don't have to baby it whatsoever. It's comfortable in that it takes mere seconds to set up and take down. It's comfortable in that replacing it is easy and cheap. It's comfortable in that it's very light for the weight and you can trim it down to lighten it further. It's comfortable that it serves multiple purposes, including a sit pad during the day and a mat for stretching. All of these things pay dividends on a long-distance hike where light, reliable, multipurpose, and time-efficient gear rules. Also, I don't think foam is nearly as uncomfortable as people make it out to be. You can always use extra clothes and other stuff for padding if you have to camp on a hard surface. I find inflatables to be slippery and annoyingly narrow, whereas I can sprawl on foam like I'm on a real bed. Edit: I'll add that I own a Thermarest NeoAir X-Lite and an Exped Ultra 5R. I'd take foam over them any day on a thru-hike for the ease of use, durability, and weight. The last thing I want to do after a long day of hiking is to spend time blowing air into a glorified pool floatie.

Exped's Ultra line has vertical baffles which I find very comfy, and in my experience the rails don't have the insulation issue the new BA pads (allegedly) do.

I have the Ultra 5R and it definitely packs down larger than my Xlite, but then again the Xlite packs down very small. I would say it's probably about the same as the BA pads, but don't quote me on that because I don't have any experience with BA. (Maybe someone else can speak to it.) That said, I haven't found the packed size to be a problem - I usually just fold it a couple times and insert it vertically against my back. I would definitely go to a local store and see if it's comfortable for you though! It's definitely very cozy for me. I really like the vertical baffles and agree that the Thermarest pads are just not very comfortable. Edit: just to add, if you care about weight the Expeds are a bit heavier than the competition (20oz for the 5R and 18oz for the 3R, iirc). So that's maybe where I would weigh the benefits. I really like bringing the 5R on trips where my main goal is to just relax and have a fun time chilling in the woods.

Not sure about Rab pads, have heard nothing about them. Thermarest Neoair seem less durable than Nemo Tensors from everything I have read and heard. My own preference had been Exped. Ultra series are lighter Dura series are more durable. Mummies or rectangular options with various R values available. Never had an issue with my Ultra 5R.

I know they are light but the neoair durability isn’t great. Also Cascade (thermarest) just moved from Seattle to Reno and I bet things are super disorganized still I opted for the Exped Ultra series. There’s a weight penalty but I find them much more comfortable, and Exped repairs pads for the cost of shipping to Tacoma.

This is the pad I use, as a side sleeper I find it really comfortable.

Exped ultra 3R is a very comfortable pad. Just got it and only used it once but so far so good

I have a Megamat for car camping and absolutely love it. For backpacking, I use either Exped Ultra 7R LW (when it is really cold) or Exped Ultra 5R mummy when I am trying to keep the weight down (much lighter weight, still very good protection against unexpected cold nights in the mountains). Both are about as comfortable as you can get for a backpacking sleeping pad. EDIT ADD: I am also a side sleeper. Additionally, I have tried several of the popular sleeping pads that people typically recommend. Ultra 7R LW & Ultra 5R mummy will weight a bit more, but I find them warmer and more comfortable.

I have a Megamat for car camping and absolutely love it. For backpacking, I use either Exped Ultra 7R LW (when it is really cold) or Exped Ultra 5R mummy when I am trying to keep the weight down (much lighter weight, still very good protection against unexpected cold nights in the mountains). Both are about as comfortable as you can get for a backpacking sleeping pad. EDIT ADD: I am also a side sleeper. Additionally, I have tried several of the popular sleeping pads that people typically recommend. Ultra 7R LW & Ultra 5R mummy will weight a bit more, but I find them warmer and more comfortable.

I have the green exped duo mat.

I second exbed ultra, i also really like the sea to summit aeros deluxe backpacking pillow. They're a little annoying to set up and not the lightest or smallest, but it's very comfortable. I haven't done a thru, so I can't attest to long distance carries but I'm a very light sleepier with difficulty falling asleep and also absolutely need sleep, I'm not one of those people who can do well with minimal rest. I can only imagine on a thru I'd want maximum comfort for quality sleep. Some other commentor noted to inflate and slightly deflate and this is necessary although with practice you'll probably learn exactly how much to inflate and not have to tinker too much each night.

I have an exped 5R Ultra mummy pad and it's comfier than my actual bed. and unlike my cheaper OEX pad I don't slide off it all the time. Vertical baffles are the best imo. :)

Exped is your friend. If you want something quiet and comfortable get the Exped Ultra 5. The mummy long /wide models are under 20oz.

I would get a pad with a value around 5 like the Exped Ultra 5. Not too heavy but will keep you warm below freezing.

Naturehike is not ASTM rated. Skip. The Rapide is a great pad but is a bit cold. If you want the direct replacement to this pad get the Boundary Deluxe, which is the new name for the Q Core Deluxe. However if you are going to go winter camping over snow go for a higher R value pad. Exped Ultra 5 Exped Ultra 7 Sea to Summit Etherlight XT Extreme Thermarest XTherm Nemo Tensor Extreme

Naturehike is not ASTM rated. Skip. The Rapide is a great pad but is a bit cold. If you want the direct replacement to this pad get the Boundary Deluxe, which is the new name for the Q Core Deluxe. However if you are going to go winter camping over snow go for a higher R value pad. Exped Ultra 5 Exped Ultra 7 Sea to Summit Etherlight XT Extreme Thermarest XTherm Nemo Tensor Extreme

I own both the Duraz Ultra and both MegaMat 10 and 25 models. The Dura is better for base camping, car camping (where pack size is important) and winter camping. Way way more durable with the 170D bottom fabric face. Way better to use with dogs. Ultra will be fine if you are careful. Take out sharp objects from your pockets. Actually have nothing in your pockets. I have the Ultra 5 LW mummy, Dura 8, Dura 5 and both MegaMat series.

Exped Ultra 5R in rectangular wide. You will love the lengthwise air chambers and how quiet this pad is. Not to even mention the side bumper action feature.

Exped has wide pads that are very quiet. The 5R is warm enough for me to 20F for sure, so in rectangular (not mummy) it might suit you. If you believe that noise comes from a pad squeaking against the fabric of a tent floor, then putting a 1/8" thinlite (or goodnite) CCF pad between an inflatable and tent floor will create enough friction to "lock" the inflatable in place and prevent squeaking. Also such a CCF will add to warmth [and weight]. And the lengthwise air chambers may help a side sleeper stay centered on the pad. I still have to wear earplugs to sleep but I imagine that you do as well because of the frogs, toads, crickets, and katydids that are tremendously noisy at night.

How would an Exped Ultra wide mummy fit on your list?

Go lay down on all of these and see for yourself. Also I avoid pads with multiple thermal welds that create small "pillows" because of their failure mode. This subreddit gets about 5 requests a week for "what inflatable pad" and there are many comments and lots of YouTube videos. I haven't seen anything new or different in a few years, so at this point just going and laying down on a couple pads ... maybe borrow from friends and try out at home once you decide on R-value and weight is about all one can do. The idea to buy, try, and return is also valid. With lengthwise baffles I think one can "feel" or sense in the dark where they are on a pad and that helps one stay away from the edges. Exped mummy-shaped pads are the lightest except for the Therm-A-Rest ones, but Exped is much less expensive and people have reported they are more comfortable and make much less noise. I should also say I have 3 of them at different Rvalues.

Lengthwise baffles are always the best. Why is that you may ask? I think one reason is that one can easily feel or sense that one is not about to move off the pad and even that one is centered on the pad. The Exped has slightly larger "in diameter" edge tubes, so that also helps one sense in total darkness where one's body, legs, and feet are on the pad. I sleep on my back, on my stomach, on my left side and on my right side, and everywhere in-between. Also it is helpful to get a mummy-shaped pad to save some weight. Also helpful to get a wide pad. Also helpful to have a virtually noiseless pad.

I'll offer a contrasting viewpoint: My Exped pads can be inflated to be quite firm with the Schnozzle pump sack that they come with. I usually have to let some air out. If I use my Pad-Pal inflator then I have to blow in another partial breath. My hip doesn't come close to bottoming out, but I am not very heavy myself.

Exped Ultra in size Wide Mummy. These have lengthwise baffles, about 25" wide near the shoulder. Choose your R value which will choose your weight.

I guess I want to make clear that I wasn't suggesting the MegaMat Ultra, but a different Exped Ultra.

I’d go with the Exped until there are more reliable and positive reviews available on the Flextail. Exped’s Ultra line seems fairly well regarded.

I tried the Exped Ultra 3R at some point and especially for a side sleeper it is not a good choice. The outer tubes are thicker, meaning if you stick your arm out it feels weird. I owned the StS Ether Light (Insulated) and it was so far the most comfortable pads I had. Unfortunately it is not light. At the moment I use the Nemo Tensor (Insulated) and it is comfortable enough for me. No experience with the other pads.

Same here. I find it comfy af fully inflated

I went through all the major pads (Thermarent, Nemo, S2S) and was unhappy with all of them, but I LOVE my ExPed mats. I bought the 7R for the winter and then got a 3R. They don't charge extra for long or wide - - - and I realized I sleep way better on a rectangular mat than a mummy shape. Highly recommend. Not noisy, not slick and plasticky, just great.

I went through all the major pads (Thermarent, Nemo, S2S) and was unhappy with all of them, but I LOVE my ExPed mats. I bought the 7R for the winter and then got a 3R. They don't charge extra for long or wide - - - and I realized I sleep way better on a rectangular mat than a mummy shape. Highly recommend. Not noisy, not slick and plasticky, just great.

Like u/skisnbikes , I also recommend an EXPED pad. We have had the Exped Synmat Duo UL, which is no longer offered but is essentially replaced by the Exped Ultra Duo pads. The Ultra 1R Duo is a summer pad, but Exped also offers the Ultra 3R Duo which is their warmer 3 season pad. I would be tempted with the 1R personally but the 3R is lighter than the Nemo Quasar Insulated, as far as I can tell, and has a similar R value (at R value of 2.9 it's a little lower than the NEMO) so it seems like great value. The older synmat Duo that we used had an R value of 3.3 and we find that more than warm enough in the Canadian Rockies and have used the older Synmat on two GDT thru hikes, the last of which with quite a bit of snow and colder temperatures in the last couple sections of the hike. If the R value is a concern, you can get a Dura 5R Duo which is a warmer pad, and the same weight as the NEMO for a medium pad. I think that's a great option for a colder sleeper. I like the orientation of the baffles on the EXPED pad. They are length wise and the edges of the pad are nice wide, gentle humps that help prevent you from rolling off the pad. In my opinion this is a far better and more relaxed for sleeping as you naturally stay on and don't have to worry about rolling off. This might be a benefit for someone fairly new to backpacking. Also it's been pretty bombproof for us. We did have a pad failure some point after our first GDT thru (after a bunch of other hikes) but we replaced with the same pad. And we will continue to replace again. I mentioned I'd be tempted with the 1R, but a more direct replacement that we'd pursue is the 3R. For sleeping quilts, there are a lot of options. The budget option my wife and I went with originally was a RayWay MYOG quilt kit. It's synthetic, can zip into two (it's bulky, but you can each take half, which is nice for redundancy). We went this way originally partially due to budget, but also because I have a down allergy and didn't want to risk me having trouble breathing in the back country. I've since convinced myself that I can use a decent down quilt without issues, so like u/skisnbikes we have gone with a UGQ quilt. We haven't used it much yet (first season with it, haven't really gone out due to my wife being far along in a pregnancy) but we like it. Our 3.5 year old has one as well and it's been awesome. It's well made, and it's proven to be quite toasty. The cost is entirely reasonable.

They're all good pads. I find them all comfortable in their own ways. Exped has the nicest fabric, but it's also the thickest which I don't really like. The Nemo tensor is the overall most comfortable, no nonsense, best of all worlds. The Xlite is my favorite however. I like the horizontal baffles. The new NXT version isn't as loud as its predecessors. The mummy shape is tapered in the perfect places unlike Expeds mummy pads, I prefer it over rectangular ones.

I use a 3.5” thick Exped 7R. I’m a side sleeper and have to deflate my mats so they’re comfortable which decreases the r-value. If I need extra comfort, I can add a cut-down Switchback on top (length = shoulders to hips) which makes the pad way cozier and replaces some of the lost r-value.

Unless you are only ever going to use it at +10c or warmer, go 5R Edit: if mostly used inside a tent and on relatively "gentle" ground, ultra is fine, if you are like me and like to use it as a chair/couch in far from ideal conditions to, get dura or versa. Edit2: and unless you are really narrow, get MW or LW

Unless you are only ever going to use it at +10c or warmer, go 5R Edit: if mostly used inside a tent and on relatively "gentle" ground, ultra is fine, if you are like me and like to use it as a chair/couch in far from ideal conditions to, get dura or versa. Edit2: and unless you are really narrow, get MW or LW

Unless you are only ever going to use it at +10c or warmer, go 5R Edit: if mostly used inside a tent and on relatively "gentle" ground, ultra is fine, if you are like me and like to use it as a chair/couch in far from ideal conditions to, get dura or versa. Edit2: and unless you are really narrow, get MW or LW

I'm thinking about picking this up for my PCT thru next year. I tried the XLite, instantly got 5+ holes on the first night of a 3-night trip and it really soured my perception of the pad. I ended up using it for 60 nights after I patched every hole, but I was using a groundsheet a lot of the time after that. Picked up the Exped Ultra 3R next and man that thing is durable, quiet, and comfortable. If you look at the Ultra 5R Mummy, it's only like 3oz heavier than the XLite and the durability and comfort of those vertical baffles seem to win out for me.

ExPed Ultra 5R has been a solid mat for me. Been plenty warm down <0°c>-10°c. I have the rectangular wide & it's been comfy and I've never found it noisy. I also have a Light Tour r7.5 - wide mummy, it's very light and small, smaller when it's blowed-up too, and definitely a bit noisy. Tolerable tho I'd say. I've found it to be warm enough down to just below freezing on the one camp I've had it out in the cold. I do generally sleep pretty warm and have a nice quilt, but it was definitely noticeably warmer than my 3.smthn summer mat I was A/B testing it against.

Doesn't that have down in it? I was looking at that one then, iirc I realized they used down insulation in it? and like... Who amongst us hasn't woken up in a newly formed lake or stream at least once while r/wildcampingintheUK ? 😂 I went with the 5R & have been fine on it below freezing (I do sleep pretty warm in general, but tbh think 5R is pretty decent for most UK-type situations)

I have the Xped 5R... It's _very_ comfortable and warm (much much warmer than I would ever need if I didn't plan on going down below 5°c!). But it's a _little_ bit chunkier and heavier than I might like if I wasn't in need of the warmth. XLite is lighter and more compact, but significantly less comfortable IMHO, also very warm. Can't speak to the Nemo personally. My summer pad is the [Kilos Gear Aerocloud UL](https://kilosgear.com/products/aerocloud-sleeping-pad-ul) and I really rate it; comfortable, lightweight, compact, and honestly surprisingly warm still, never really even felt the cold until it got down below 0°c - & obvs _much_ cheaper than the other options you've listed. Comfort is a little bit of a personal preference based on your physique and sleep preferences; but I would certainly recommend the kilos gear pad. Sorry to give you even more options 😂

Another vote for the Exped Ultra 5R. I LOVE mine. It is so comfy, and as a side sleeper the horizontal baffles stop my leg from sliding off onto the ground, which can be uncomfortable and cold. I have used it in -2 conditions, the side of my body that was on the mat was plenty warm, the side to the air, not so much, but that's a sleeping bag issue. And I feel the cold, so to be warm on the mat is saying a lot. As far as durability goes, I can't comment on that as I haven't spent a lot of nights on it. Ultralight is usually at the compromise of durability though. There is a more durable version, it has a bigger packed size and weight. Just depends what your priorities are and what you're willing/not willing to sacrifice.

Exped 5r Regular/wide. Were the same height so don’t get the long. Absolute beast of a sleeping pad!

I ended up buying the regular wide rectangle Exped 5R ultra on sale at REI for $119USD. I have the Synmat HL Duo 3.5R (now discontinued as far as I can tell, it’s only 1lb10oz for a double pad) that I’ve been really happy as a side sleeper with after 15-20 nights in late spring to early fall temps. Wanted a single pad for solo adventures and to stretch into colder seasons/hammock use. My top choice would have been the Nemo tensor all season, but I can’t justify the price (almost double the exped 5R sale price) given how rare/brief my trips are at this stage. I also camp with a dog and was also worried about durability/price ratio and decided the cost savings was probably worth it for the 7 extra oz over the Nemo region/wide. I was also considering the reg/wide REI Helix, on sale the exped was only $1 more than the Helix, 3oz lighter, and only 0.1R colder for a bigger pad that packs down nearly as small AND has a 5 year warranty. All three of these pads have inconsistent reviews when it comes to how noisy the pad is, I’m curious if anyone in this thread can speak to that? My double exped is not excessively noisy so I’m hopeful this won’t be.

For car camping, my wife and I (and usually our chocolate lab) share this combo, and we all sleep super well: 1. CCF pad 2. Exped Duo Ultra 3R pad on top 3. Kelty Double-wide 20F The dog has her own pad and sleeping bag, but ours is much better I suppose. I could never sleep well on cots, and our entire sleep system can fit in a duffel bag.

I have slept my Exped 3r to bits and have bought another one. It is comfortable but most of all: it is quiet. 5R should be the same

My vote is for the exped. I got the LW mummy version. Plenty of space to turn from side to side

I have a tensor, xlite, and exped 3r -- I think they're all reasonably comfortable, although tensor probably at least 10% more comfy than both. Expeds can be bought cheap (sometimes $100), but if that's not the main concern it's between the tensor and xlite: tensor has 40d bottom and 20d top, xlite is 30d/30d; tensor is 5.5r / xlite is 4.5r; tensor (r/w) is 18oz, xlite max is 19oz. Historically the xlite has been considered more durable + repairable, but with the new fabric changeup recently, not sure that'll still be the case. Tensor is probably what I'd recommend to you. Also, trial version exists that is lighter but less warm (~3r) which could be warm enough for you.

I have the Exped and I find it comfortable and I have tried it at about 35F, it did the trick. The only thing is that you can't "over-inflate" it. Or maybe mine is a defect. At some point, you can't put more air inside, but the pad remains pretty soft. The thing is, for me, this is the perfect firmness, especially if you sleep on your back. When I sleep on my side, my hip is almost touching the ground (which is fine). I'm pretty sure it's not a defect and that's just the way they are, though.

+1 on Exped ultra. This was way more comfy for me than the XTherm or the S2S

I set up an alert on marketplace so I can snag lightly used Expeds. I want the quality and the weight, not willing to get a cheaper pad that won’t hold up. Got a downmat 9 for $20. No stuff sack. Win. Got a double synmat for $100 with shnozzle/bag. Basically brand new. Win. As long as you check the inflate/deflate nozzles, any pinhole leaks should be easy to repair. To date neither of my pads have had any leaks.

Yeah, they really are the bees knees! If you ever get a chance, snag an older downmat. SO COMFY, R value is 9 and even though it’s bulky it’s definitely saved me suffering through chilly nights in the colder months (Canadian prairie/mountains). The double synmat is even smaller than my thermarest from a few years back. I don’t usually simp for brands, but unless exped seriously screws up their quality/production I’ll be a fan for a long time.

Similar conditions to you and I went with an Exped Ultra (3R for summer) after seeing it recommended for side sleepers. Have been very happy. £150 from Trekitt.

The Thermarest NeoAir is indeed lighter. At just 12 ounces the semi-mummy arguably the best quality sleeping pad in this range and weight. But it's also not cheap. The NeoAir Xtherm is the cold weather version, R 7.4, and 16 oz. The Nemo Tensor Extreme is rectangle, R 8.1, and 18 oz. Both the Thermarest and Nemos are quieter than they were in the past. Also, the more you use them, the more quiet they get. Agree the Thermarest pump sack is the worst of the bunch, no question, but I've gotten mine to work enough. The Rapide is usually warm enough for most people 3 seasons, and the reason to buy it is indeed it's thickness, and the sides being raised. Agree the Exped 5R is good for most people. It's a simple, comfortable, rectangle. R 4.8, and 1lb 4 oz. That's certainly heavier than the Thermarest but $50 cheaper.

Second Exped ultra, as me personally searching for new pads recently, it is by far the most comfortable one with bare skin on it. The trick is, you already mentioned, the surface material and treatment. Exped ultra uses Polyester as oppose to other manus using Nylon so that it can be brushed to be softer while maintaining strength. Apart from the touch feeling, it is one of the quieter ones, hug my body better because of the vertical baffles, lots of pros here. However the Polyester surface also brings trouble: it is lipophilic, so if you have oily skins, it gets stained easily. The brushed surface offers extra grip, which can make high pitch noise when placed on top of other grippy surfaces like foam pad. Overall a very solid pad apart from the longevity that I can't test, especially for it's current price tag

I have an Exped Ultra 5R and don't find it loud at all.

I've used a prolite apex below zero several times, and it was both comfortable, durable and warm. Relatively cheap for a thermarest, too. Wife still uses hers 4 years later. Only reason I got rid is because I put a fair bit of weight on I can't seem to shift (went from about 90 to 100kg) and it became uncomfortable. Btw, sleeping pad r-value and ambient air temperature don't technically have a direct correlation. An r-value of 5+ is generally rated by manufacturers below about -15°C, which even being conservative is well below what you'll see 3-season in the UK. Nowt wrong with *over* insulating a pad though, imo, as it's usually conduction heat loss. But I'd personally rather get a more premium brand at a lower R than get summat less premium higher R. Fwiw, I now use an *edit* exped *edit/* ultra 5r long/wide mummy year round, but have only used just above zero. Comfortable and warm. *2nd edit* mate bought my prolite apex off me, same height (6'2") and weight I used to be. He also rates it. *2nd edit/* Random link: https://sectionhiker.com/sleeping-pad-r-values-and-temperature-ratings-how-they-correspond/

I have the same, can't comment on the noise (wife hasn't complained about the noise of me on it), but agree with the rest.

Hell yeah for the exped. Super comfy and I haven’t had problems with them leaking like I did with the tensor.

Expand 3R ultra, awesome sleep. Pair with a zenbivy sleeping system trekology pillow and your golden

The outer baffles on the newer Exped Ultra Mummy pads are now insulated.

FWIW, I own these two: Exped Ultra 3R (wide, non-mummy) BA Rapid SL (old 4.2R version, Regular 539g) I find them both quite comftable as a side sleeper, no cold or ground contact for shoulder/hip. The BA feels slightly more comfy than the Exped and more durable. I have used the BA down to ap. 23f - I have not had the Exped in really cold conditions yet. Unfortunately there seems to be issues with insulation in the new version of the BA Rapid, so personally I would be a bit hesitant buying it.

I've used a few double sleep systems. At first I used a Klymit Double V and a Thermarest Vela. The quilt was great, but the pad kind of sucked. It was heavy, bulky, and not that comfortable. I have slept with that setup down to 0 and was fine. Then, I got an Exped Dura 5R. It's the same weight as the Kylmit, but much warmer and more comfortable. I also impulsively ordered a Big Agnes Rapide Sl Double, which I don't like quite as much as the Exped. Then I finally found a deal on the Exped Ultra 3r, which is so much smaller and lighter than the other options. We will probably keep the two Exped pads. Finally, I just recently got a UGQ tango duo and sold the Thermarest Vela. It's cheaper than the EE Accomplice, while being better made (in my opinion) and significantly more weight efficient than the Thermarest. The Thermarest really is quite nice though. If you have any specific questions, let me know.

Agreed the Exped is surprisingly comfy for a side sleeper. I went with the ultra 5r but that shouldn’t make a difference. Tried and eventually got rid of: thermarest, ether light, klymit.

Personally I found pads with lengthwise baffles much more comfortable side sleeping. I ended up with an exped ultra 3r. Not the lightest, thickest or warmest but it is the most comfortable mat I tried.

+1 on exped ultra. Lengthwise baffles are just so much more comfortable for me

And I would snag that 5R in a heartbeat. I bought a 3R that I haven't even taken out yet (need a ground setup for skyline this year) and I've already got buyers remorse. Out this way, the extra grams are def worth the extra insultation.

I like the feel of the self-inflating mats (POE InsulMat and ProLite Plus) when testing at home, but I get much better sleep on the air mat (Exped Ultra LW) when camping - more hours and my shoulders aren’t so tight in the morning.

I got the exped Ultra 7R Mummy wide. If you don’t need extra R value like me (I get cold super fast) then the Ultra 5R is a lot less money. I don’t like the mummy versions, but my tent stupid-designed with a smaller foot area and 2 regular mats just don’t fit :( It’s why I kept the synmat though. Because if I wanted to go solo it’s still a nicer option. I will say the synmat 7 is nicer overall, the material seems heartier and it’s not as loud or bouncy, the ultra seems a bit more bouncy. It’s not awful but it’s possibly also the mummy design and lighter weight. If you want a tougher mat they have other lines. It’s not like you can’t just go to the site and see the lines. So get what works best for you. :)

They're not quite as light but I'm a huge fan of the Exped 5R, 4.8R Value and the Medium-Wide is about 23 oz.

They're not quite as light but I'm a huge fan of the Exped 5R, 4.8R Value and the Medium-Wide is about 23 oz.

They're not quite as light but I'm a huge fan of the Exped 5R, 4.8R Value and the Medium-Wide is about 23 oz.

Exped 3r is very comfortable. I have like 10 sleeping pads, and the 3R has been the best I've tried. I'd say the uberlight is also up there, but it has been discontinued. It was more comfthan the regular neo air, which I alao have.

I just got the 3r version, also 25” wide, and so far really like it.

Exped has baffles in long side direction and additionally bigger sized side baffles, which is a nice property to prevent sliding of the mat.

Exped dura/ultra. Good european quality, not comparable to all the US trash

Exped Ultra or if you will be in a bit rougher terrain the exped dura. I use a dura5r and its mor comfortable than my bed at home

[here's](https://www.reddit.com/r/WildernessBackpacking/s/7vAF6wA3dd) some suggestions I made recently. None are UL really but neither is the pad you're coming from. Best bet is probably the Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Xlite in the usual mummy size for best/lightest in the segment. Exped Ultra 5R is fantastic but decidedly not UL

Do you have a max budget? Do you have a good sleeping bag to pair it with? Any of the modern inflatable pads will fit in your bag unless you've brought enough other stuff to cross the continent on foot, lol Here's our experiences, though not a comprehensive review of everything on the market. TLDR probably get you an Exped Ultra 5R. Nemo Tensor: I am a flopper and tended to roll onto the edges, which made them collapse and dumped me onto the ground. Pad is comfortable otherwise. It does make quite the crinkly sound when moving. Exped Ultra 3R: probably a bit cold when temps are approaching the lower end of your range. Large side baffles (like the Big Agnes you linked, I think) keeps you from flinging yourself off the pad. Thick and comfortable. Fantatsic pump sack inflates the thing in like 20 seconds. Was entirely too cold for us where it gets colder than your range. Side note, it was paired with a Big Agnes sleeping bag which was horrible. Terrible bag. Exped Ultra 5R: all the pros of the 3R but warm enough! Great pad, my wife's current go-to. Therm-a-Rest NeoAir XLite MAX: or whatever the yellow rectangle \~5R one is. Lacks the side bolsters of the Exped and is thinner, but is very comfortable and IIRC lighter. Another great pad, my current go-to. Pump sack is beyond useless, too porous and leaks air instead of blowing into pad. I just blow it up by mouth. Generally, I've found we prefer rectangular pads. If you're with someone else and you both have rectangular pads - make sure they fit in your tent! Many tents are tapered and your feet will overlap which is super annoying

Do you have a max budget? Do you have a good sleeping bag to pair it with? Any of the modern inflatable pads will fit in your bag unless you've brought enough other stuff to cross the continent on foot, lol Here's our experiences, though not a comprehensive review of everything on the market. TLDR probably get you an Exped Ultra 5R. Nemo Tensor: I am a flopper and tended to roll onto the edges, which made them collapse and dumped me onto the ground. Pad is comfortable otherwise. It does make quite the crinkly sound when moving. Exped Ultra 3R: probably a bit cold when temps are approaching the lower end of your range. Large side baffles (like the Big Agnes you linked, I think) keeps you from flinging yourself off the pad. Thick and comfortable. Fantatsic pump sack inflates the thing in like 20 seconds. Was entirely too cold for us where it gets colder than your range. Side note, it was paired with a Big Agnes sleeping bag which was horrible. Terrible bag. Exped Ultra 5R: all the pros of the 3R but warm enough! Great pad, my wife's current go-to. Therm-a-Rest NeoAir XLite MAX: or whatever the yellow rectangle \~5R one is. Lacks the side bolsters of the Exped and is thinner, but is very comfortable and IIRC lighter. Another great pad, my current go-to. Pump sack is beyond useless, too porous and leaks air instead of blowing into pad. I just blow it up by mouth. Generally, I've found we prefer rectangular pads. If you're with someone else and you both have rectangular pads - make sure they fit in your tent! Many tents are tapered and your feet will overlap which is super annoying

Self-inflating mats are basically 1990’s technology. Heavy and less comfortable than fully inflatable mats. Get yourselves decent comfortable inflatable mats like. Sea to Summit Etherlight XT insulated or Exped Ultra.

Thirded Very good point on the stains. I conked out really hard once and drooled on the mat and it's been stained ever since lmao. Another reason why i think it's so comfy is the vertical baffles, which keep you in place so much better Side note- really happy to see the recognition this mat has. I've been vouching for it for a while now.

Personally id avoid thermarest cause they are so loud. They also come in weighing over spec often, so they warmth/weight advantage is a bit smaller than it seems. If you are considering other options. I think that the vertical baffles are way more comfortable. Exped, big agnes do these. A good deal on an exped mat in the UK https://www.expeduk.com/products/ultra-3r?variant=44171519230266&country=GB¤cy=GBP&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20269517648&gbraid=0AAAAApwKUJuFrFp2UHLTjT1Yw3J7Jtb3K&gclid=CjwKCAjw3f_BBhAPEiwAaA3K5PDLOMRlNwjFmZzPRNER1N8ldFP9UYieepFeWgIYz7oR24VeuniABRoCUAkQAvD_BwE

I haven't tried the Rab pad, but the other two will not get you below freezing. Exped ultra 5r is a great option, as already mentioned. The naturehike 5.8 pad could also be a good option - although there isn't much data on durability.

The Tensor AS and Ultra 5R are great pads for the canadian rockies. Both might be slightly cold depending on where you're going in mid-may as there can still be snow on the ground or the ground could still be frozen even if the snow has melted. I find frozen spring ground as cold as snow in the middle of winter. I'd look at a Neve Waratah quilt. The Waratah -8C is $353 CAD.

Not on your list, but the Exped 3R is a solid option if you find it comfortable. I find it quite comfortable. Otherwise, I'd consider the ZoomUL for the temps you're going out in instead of the rapide.

What is noisy for you with the All-Season? Generally, pads are noisy from internal insulation or from the shell material. It's hard to get away from shell material noise and mylar film is the best warmth to weight ratio insulation. For a lot of people, weight, warmth, and comfort are higher priorities than noise, which is why some of the noisier pads are the most popular. That being said, the Exped Ultra pads are pretty light, warm, and some of the least noisy. I also find them more comfortable than the Xlite or All-Season. I can confirm that companies pay millions of dollars so reviewers will lie and break the trust of their audience. /s

The Ultra is the only choice here if you care about warmth. Big Agnes failed at properly implementing reflective insulation into the newest version of the Rapide SL pad.

I like the rectangular more, but that is mostly because it hold on to my pillows with pad straps better. Otherwise, I prefer mummy pads for the weight savings.

The Helix is more comfortable for me. If you're over 200lbs, the Ultra might be more comfortable. The Ultra 5R has a slight warmth advantage in real world conditions. I haven't really hit the warmth limit of the 5R in my testing. The coldest I have tested is at -4C but on cold wet ground (most pads with r-values in the 4s start to feel cold under these conditions.

I'm about to buy the thermarest neoloft. It's thick and quiet, reasonable weight to comfort ratio and Nalgene sized. I have an exped 5r right now and can't stand it. Not comfy and sooooooooo loud.

I sleep cold also and tried to push my tensor to low 30s and was also very cold. I've since just decided to go all the way an use an Exped r7 pad for 40s and below. You could also try moving  the thin foam mat on top of the infamous one. That also helped me since it holds the warmth better.

I do like to sleep comfortably when backpacking, and have spent a lot of time trying to figure out what works best for me. I've tried many pads over the past decades, including these two, along with similar Exped sleeping pads like the Ultra, Versa, and Dura. I am primarily a side sleeper, so that informs some of my sleeping experience on these, and am 190cm and 95kg. Personally I was not able to sleep comfortably on the Exped MegaMat Lite, or its siblings (Dura/Versa/Ultra). A through-line in my testing of these is the vertical baffling: I regularly wake up and find my arm is numb. I think these might work better for me if I was primarily a back or chest sleeper; lots of people like them and recommend them. But in my adulthood I've probably maximum only got about two hours of sleep at a time on a design like these. I have only had to contact Exped for warranty once, and they ended up shipping me a new unit before I even had to send the old one back: top marks here in support. I just picked up the Therm-a-rest NeoLoft before the holidays and took it on two trips in Mt Hood National Forest. Maybe the most comfortable backpacking pad I've personally used recently, even if the large (long wide, 78x26) weighs 2lbs! When fully inflated it is 4.6" thick. One of the few pads I've slept more than six straight hours on, which is kind of how I prioritize pads. Not only comfortable, but has a soft-touch stretchy fabric which feels good against the skin (I tend to sleep with quilts rather than bags). The first night I did wake up to find my arm was numb, so curious if that was a one-off with a weird sleeping position... R-value is 4.7, so I haven't used it at all in the past 45 days because of the cold where I am. It looks like the REI exclusivity is now over in early 2025, and this can be picked up lots of different places. Honestly the thing I dislike the most is the valves; I just don't care for the old-style Therm-a-rest valves. Realizing your question was specifically about those two, I also wanted to recommend what I have found to be my most comfortable pads in recent years: 1. Sea to Summit Ether Light XT Extreme Insulated. This specific pad and its sibling, Ether Light XT Insulated, have been my primary pads the past four-ish years. They are 4" thick and the most comfortable pads I've used, probably tied with the NeoLoft. Never woken with my arm numb, and the only pad I've ever slept seven-plus hours straight-through. In the PNW I use the non-Extreme-variant in the warmer half of the year, and the Extreme-variant in the colder half. The stuff sack with the inflation aid built-in is the smartest I've seen. Extreme version has an r-value of 6.2, and the non-Extreme version r-value is 3.2. The Extreme has that spider-web looking Thermolite insulation, which in my mind is the most reliable winter/cold insulation; it doesn't crinkle and potentially fail like newer thin reflective films in other lighter pads (NEMO Tensor, Big Agnes Rapide, etc). On the flip side that makes the Extreme very heavy, more than 2lbs, and also packs down the biggest of any backpacking pad I've owned. 2. REI Helix. Been using this on-and-off for the past few seasons. One of the few pads that has me sleeping through the night. It is only 3" thick, but I have found the trick is to fully inflate: the dimples do a good jump of evening out my weight and not experiencing any arm numbness. The long wide is 1lb 13oz, and seems pretty sturdy compared to other REI-brand pads I've used in the past; no leaks yet... R-value of 4.9. I always wake up refreshed and feeling good on those mats, baring any environmental issues outside of the pad. I cannot recommend the NeoLoft in that way yet, but will continue to use and test it out in the near future with an additional foam pad underneath to make it safe for snow conditions (as the r-value stacks). And I don't think I will ever recommend an Exped pad for backpacking. Exped does make fantastic foam inflating car-camping pads though!

I have the Exped 5R LW Mummy, exclusive side sleeper. No issues at all, it’s perfectly comfortable - Though friends have moaned it’s noisy when I move around during the night.

I’d recommend the 3R for summer, it’ll feel exactly the same as the 7R.

A big driver behind that unstable feeling are the horizontal baffles of the xlite.  Vertical baffles (my favorite) or dimples will feel much more steady at any height, and to with those baffles I think you’d be able to get away with a normal short without feeling that instability.   Tensor is well-recommended but IIRC they have some durability issues.  Exped ultras appear to be getting increasingly popular, that’s what I use for the most part.

Definitely try deflating a little bit first, but it's hard to sleep on any of these inflatable pads. Did you get the wide mummy version or max version so you can rest your arms a bit? I personally found the Nemo Tensor to be the most comfortable but don't trust them for quality at all. The Exped 5R is pretty comfortable with vertical baffles but it's quite heavy at over 20oz for the 72x20 model. (The NeoAir NXT mummy wide is bigger and only 16oz)