NeoAir Xtherm Series

I hate my NeoAir, I don’t find ThermaRest pads comfortable at all. I’d take a CCF over a Thermarest. For trips where I want an inflatable over a CCF, I just got a Nemo Tensor since they’re on sale at REI (25% off). At least in store, it felt a lot better than my NeoAir or CCF.

Seems like a great all around option. A little heavier than I would like on because I need a long/wide, but I sleep like shit on the NeoAir. I wake up multiple times every night off the pad, slide around, bottom out and my body hurts in the morning. The CCF pad I have is better, but also not warm enough a lot of the time.

While I may not be going super far, depending on the situation, I could have to hike quickly (closer to 3-4 miles per hour) in order to beat a storm or meet a deadline. I have currently narrowed it down to the themalite xtherm or the Nemo tensor. Leaning torwards the xtherm for the heavier fabric on the bottom.  Big Agnes did offer warranty replacement, however I am concerned about the reoccurrence of the issue so I chose a non insulated pad.  Thanks for the advice!

The Xtherm was a total game changer for me. The warmth from the reflective technology makes a huuuge difference

Thermarest Xtherm for me.

15F frequently or “just in case”? This is my set up: Xtherm Thermarest, 0F Enlightened Equipment Enigma (bought in 2021, I’ve heard their quality is decreasing), 90gsm alpha fleece sleeping layer. SMD’s Gatewood Cape , which offers minimal heat trapping. I feel good to 20F. I’d be uncomfortable but ok at 15F. If my tarp isn’t cutting the wind well enough, I’ll also sleep in my rain layers. There’s no one “true”/“best” way. It’s going to depend on your body, your baselayers and how much comfort you want. Alpha fleece is incredible, but only if you take care of it and have a wind layer. 850 or better down is going to be a good thing to look at. Lighter materials need more care/are more fragile. Thicker material on a sleeping bag will also cut wind better, but be heavier. Managing sweat and condensation is also going to be a big part of being warm. https://preview.redd.it/ql5u7bcm7b6f1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3447a515da55f7c7c722dd870512568afebd5473

If the cold is coming through the bottom it’s a pad issue not a quilt issue. I love my Xtherm pad.

Thermarest neoairs are too loud and crinkly for me. Rab style of mattress doesn't do well for me as a side to belly sleeper. Nemo is my pick because the only air pads I've kept are Nemo. An astro non-insulated pad is my summer pad with an older cosmo insulated pad being my 30 to 55-deg pad.

I've slept on snow at those temperatures on both the women's X-lite and X-therm. I was quite cold on the X-lite, and I sleep very warm.

Yes. I started with both a Switchback and an Xtherm. Air mattress got holes. I patched it, many times, until I tossed the damn thing and just used the CCF. It was fine. There were only a few nights I wish I had something a bit warmer. When you're riding that edge of too-cold-to-sleep, camp selection becomes even more important.

I tried an air mattress. Deflated in the middle of the night. Never again. I've tried thermarest inflatable pads. Fine when younger. Cot? Yeah not bad. I would suggest something that insulated between you and the cot. But they are bulky and need a much bigger tent so we have pretty much given up on those too. Actually now kiddo and I camp in the back of the 4runner and use closed cell foam camping pads. They have actually been pretty comfy. The ones we got are about 1" thick and pretty soft, kind of like a yoga mat but bigger.