Klipsch - Flexus CORE 200 Sound System

Just wait till the new Flexus 200 surrounds come out with top firing drivers. I am so excited for that. Honestly though I’ve had my Flexus 200 + Sub 100 for a couple days now and it’s taking some growing time. I’ve even thought about returning it sometimes, but then I listen to music on it and it blows me away. I just wish it had room tuning and a wider more spatial sound. I’ve not added surrounds yet though so that could be what I’m missing. If the Flexus 300 comes out before my 60 day return window I will get that instead. If not I will just get the Surround 200 with top firing speakers. I’m so tempted to get the Surround 100 for the time being but the 200 are right around the corner.

I purchased the Klipsch Flexus Core Soundbar 200, pair of Subwoofers 100, and surround 100. The sound is amazing once you've ever paired to Soundbar 200, which took some time to get, but I'm a big bass fan, so I'm going to add wired subwoofers beside the rear sofa to feel more bass.

Klipsch Flexus Core 200 hands down no contest

I have Samsung q70r (2020) and Klipsch flexus core 200. For me (not expert at all), the sound is acceptable in both Soundbars.

I have it and it’s freaking awesome! Super fast and snazzy and sounds great with the TV but I would recommend the sub with it still

Read some reviews on the Klipsch Core 200. I've owned one for 2 months now. The bass can be heard outside of the house beyond the halfway mark. I love it.

Just bought it a couple of weeks ago. Watched Spider Man: Across the Spider Verse, Dune 2, and Beowulf. Just finished a 1 hour long music session. It's a treat, my dude. Pristine clarity. Pronounced highs. Engulfing bass. Articulate range. Wide presentation. I can't get enough of it. The only downside is, being the audio junkie that I am, hearing how good this thing is, and knowing that there is even higher grade equipment available, I just want more - like, I'm immersed and satisfied, mesmerized and attuned, but now I want to be swallowed whole in a reverberating sphere of tones and rhythms, my mind and bones melded into sonic bliss. The CORE 200 hasn't brought me there quite yet.

I know your post is 2 months old, but just to add... I do have the S2000, and if your goal is to have better sound, then the S2000 will deliver. It's pretty versatile. I did have the Klipsch Flexus Core 200 (referenced in a separate comment here), but it was too much gun for my situation (or at least, that's my theory). Explosions and orchestral soundtracks sounded amazing, but dialogue was way too low, especially when listening to media in Dolby (5.1 or Atmos). Setting Dialogue Mode to high barely helped, and it came with the unfortunate side effect of messing with other sounds, like trumpets on an orchestral piece. The only way to control this huge discrepancy in dynamic range was to tell my TV to output in PCM, but even then it wasn't enough. I guess if you are trying to have a home theater experience all the time, that's fine, but most of the listening in the living room TV is kids shows/movies on Disney+ (and similar). The Klipsch app was also horrendously slow. The Core 200 does aim for a cinematic experience, and in that regard, it excels. It's also great that you can add any self-powered sub you want. And the addition of upward facing speakers does create immersion. I do think that if my living room was bigger, the big sound would have space to go and would not make the dynamic range sound as extreme as it does. Dialogue has not been an issue with the S2000. I have "voice mode" to off, and have no issues hearing dialogue. There are also options in the Bravia Connect App that allow you to compress the range even further in order to make volume differences less dramatic. This is good when watching TV when the kids are asleep or when you just want to watch TV casually. The sound is not as cinematic as with the Klipsch, and you can't connect your any sub you want (as with the Klipsch). You do get immersion despite the lack of upward firing speakers, but the immersion sounds "processed." You also need to set the bass to "Max", though, as I found that anything below "Max" is too anemic. Once it's dialed in, though, explosions and the like will sound very good. I can't imagine how you can be unhappy with this, especially if you get it at a discount.

I would check this one out! I just have the sound bar itself and love it! [Flexus CORE 200 Sound System Dolby Atmos Sound Bar + 10"… | Klipsch](https://www.klipsch.com/products/flexus-core-200-sound-system-dolby-atmos-sound-bar-10-subwoofer-surround-speakers)

Love my Flexus core 200. It’s right at $500 though. I like that it has dual 4” woofers because will be awhile till I can pair sub. Also you can surrounds later wirelessly. Coming from using a HomePod mini it’s amazing. The height channels are so cool.

Love my new Klipsch Flexus 200. Left, right, center with tweeter, 2 atmos up firing drivers that work great and two 4” woofers in the bar for great bass until I buy a sub. Will be getting the surround 200s when they come out also.

Klipsch Flexus Core 200. $399 now. Left, right, center with tweeter, two 4” subs, 2 height atmos drivers. In the future you can add any sub (doesn’t have to Klipsch) or add rears, though I would wait for Atmos rears.

What size is your TV? If you can save up some more the $400 Klipsch Flexus Core 200 is great. Two 4” woofers with good bass. Left, right, center with Tweeter for dialogue clarity. It also has two up firing atmos, that if you have low ceilings like me is so fun to use the sound test with b/c you do look up and right/left. It fits well under my 55” but if I had a 65/77” I’d want something with wide left / wide right. To better affect stereo across the screen.

I picked up a 2.1 flexus system on sale at Best Buy... man it sounds amazing! Thanks for your recommendation.

.. on sale at best buy [https://www.bestbuy.com/site/klipsch-flexus-core-210-black/6580302.p?skuId=6580302](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/klipsch-flexus-core-210-black/6580302.p?skuId=6580302) i bought open-box but it was trash, they put it on sale the day after i bought it OB, for almost the same price i \*think it is the core 200 bar with the 100 sub

I, too, think dialogue is a little too low (sometimes, not always). I don’t think dialogue enhancement mode helps very much. But if I increase the mid-band equalizer in the app it helps make dialogue very clear and easy to hear, IMO. The downside being that increasing the middle equalizer can make music sound less good. (I really think music sounds great on the Flexus 200 considering it’s a sound bar.) As such, I typically leave mid-band EQ at zero and only increase mid-band if I’m having trouble. Which kind of sucks. Had I known about this maybe I would’ve bought something else. What I don’t know. Maybe still the Klipsch? The Klipsch is pretty good. I like it. Seems premium. It’s just that I bought it primarily to save money because I was planning to use an old subwoofer I had sitting around until I afterwards discovered that old subwoofer was broke. I figured other bars from Bose and Sonos would cost a ton more because they won’t let you use your own regular subwoofer. Anyway…. I don’t have it yet, but I’m getting a Rogersound Labs RSL 10S mkii subwoofer ($450) that I’ll eventually pair with the Flexus Core 200. I didn’t go with the Flexus sub because (1) reviews weren’t very good and it might be underpowered; and (2) I don’t like that the logo lights up. I already have the Flexus Surr 100 speakers. They sound good, but are too loud. I want them for movies but not for TV. So now I have the surrounds plugged into smart plugs so that I can turn them on and off. Which works, but isn’t ideal.

Bass with even just the sound bar is crazy good!

Just „downgraded“ from a Stereo Dali Speaker Setup to the Klipsch Flexus Core 200 and i have to say im Impressed by its Performance. Its not as Good as my old stereo system but does the Job very well

This! I got this one last week and it is really good!

I received mine a week ago and it is really good!! I read very good reviews but hearing it in person is just amazing! For the price is unbeatable!

Just tonight that happening is crazy given this post.. After consideration and looking at others, we went with the Klipsch Flexus Core 200 and Sub 100, and honestly i’m blown away by the sound out of the box. Here’s to hoping that the Onkyo electronics last unlike the Cinema line, but it does have a 2 year warranty so it helps at least.

I recommend looking at the Klipsch Flexus series, they are about to release the Flexus core 300 next month, the current Flexus Core 200 is what i’m using with the flexus sub 100 and it sounds absolutely awesome, huge sound. There’ll be new subs and surrounds separately with the 300 as well. The cinema series has known issues that may take place within 3 years or so and Klipsch did officially recognize that. Just my 2 cents after having been over this topic a while now from the post.

Ah, yup that’s the setup i’m running. 200 is 3.1.2, got a driver config like in this image: https://preview.redd.it/pnpxtdr9m3re1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=54d6dab8e8d9029755ab8f015e507651379afb2b Good to hear you’re enjoying the new one, be sure to get the klipsch connect plus app to get more controls by the way. It depends on your room of course, but for my room I like the sub volume (not bass, sub volume adjust in the app) just a nudge higher at +1, bass + 2 for most music, and in movie mode the majority of the time. Stage/imaging really improves in movie mode, whether you like this song or not the first few seconds of Wildflower by Billie Eilish with the beginning foot steps in movie mode shows it can really reach out far to the side. If you got some song recommendations that sound really good on this though i’ll check them out too.

I almost bought one, but couldn't justify dropping this much money for my outdoor TV setup, so I ended up with the Klipsch Flexus Core 200. It's good enough for my needs.

If I were looking for a new soundbar for the living room, I'd probably go for the Sennheiser, but for outdoors and mostly just YouTube background music, it's too pricey. The Klipsch is actually not bad, I did end up adding the sub though. But for a bedroom, I think the soundbar itself would be good enough

Check out the Klipsch Flexus Core 200 and the Flexus Sub 100. $399 and $239 right now plus you can add rears at a later date. I’m an LG guy, but was Klipsch dealer. LG makes TVs and sound bars as an accessory, Klipsch makes speakers and sound bars.

Klipsch Flexus Core 200, a monster for the price

I got the Klipsch Flexus Core 200 recently and love it, though I see it is apparently rather pricey near you. I also really liked the Sonos soundbars when I was listening to them in-stores. I wasn't able to listen to the Arc Ultra and the Arc side-by-side, but I listened to them at two different stores and thought they sounded fairly similar so I'd recommend the Arc out of what you listed. If you could find the Arc Ultra within your budget, even used or open-box, it might future-proof your setup a bit, though.

Just looking for feedback on people who have this set up. I have this soundbar and have the Flexus Surround speakers with it and it is definitely a couple steps up from the Vizio M-Series M512a-H6. I had constant problems with the Vizio surround speakers, mostly just artifacts coming from them when watching pretty much anything with surround sound. The only real issue I have with the Klipsch Flexus is when I want to use the dialogue boost, it lowers all other sound to enhance the dialogue audio. Sometimes the dialogue is slightly lower than what I would like so I just kinda white knuckle it because I don’t want to take away volume from the other audio. I don’t know what sub I want to get or what’s compatible with it. I could do two Flexus subs or I’m leaning on wanting to get the R-120SW Klipsch subwoofer. Any suggestions in that area? Also, feedback on the actual soundbar too. Thanks!

Thorough comment. Thank you. After having it for a little bit now, I actually really love this soundbar. It’s beefy, easy settings and fantastic sound quality as well. I was watching Masters of Air last night and the first episode where they are flying and are getting shot by artillery was crazy. I like the fact the surrounds are loud and clear, the Vizio rear speakers just flat out aren’t good. I’d get the Flexus sub but ONLY if I bought two of them for the 5.2.2 setup, it’d be dope but for me, highly unpractical. I’ll just grab a Klipsch sub probably unless someone one recommends me a $300-$500 subwoofer that just kicks ass. I’m gonna do some more research on it. My settings on the app are +2 for the bass and +2 on the mid and the treble is set to 0. However, I have the bass on my remote set to +2 but whenever you change the bass level on the actual soundbar, it’s not reflected on the actual app so I’m trying to figure out if it’s like a bass boost or the app and the soundbar aren’t communicating properly in that regard. Maybe the remote is bass boost and the app is actual bass? I just keep the surrounds on at all times. My Lg C3 and Apple TV 4K do a good job of dispersing the sound properly. I kinda like it though because rather than the background music being blasted through the soundbar, they play it through the rear speakers instead and the soundbar is able to play more of the sounds you want to hear. The bass coming from the Flexus no shit sounds like you have a subwoofer set up so getting a dedicated subwoofer is gonna sounds bananas.

I set up my new Klipsch Flexus Core 200 with the Flexus surrounds. Getting a subwoofer next month, leaning towards the Klipsch SPL-120. I like the fact the soundbar has built in subs that actually sound good so I can survive off that till next month when I get a proper subwoofer. I’ll take recommendations from y’all for the subwoofer. The Flexus Core 200 has a built in receiver so I’m not stuck with only using Flexus Subs and satellites speakers. This thing is easy as hell to use. Further down the line I’m gonna upgrade my setup and I’m stoked because I don’t have to worry about a receiver or anything, I can just order from Klipsch and slowly upgrade the rears and the sub so that’s definitely a plus. Sound quality is cotdamn amazing and she’s very loud. What blew me away was the Flexus Surrounds as they absolutely destroyed the Vizio M-Series satellite speakers and they look damn good too. The clarity from this setup is exactly what I was looking for and I am extremely satisfied. It’s a solid set up you can build on and I highly recommend this to anyone who’s on the fence about it and are waiting for reviews. Also, the soundbar weighs about 20 lbs, I like that. Feel free to ask questions

I will ask as everyones different and uses things differently.. what would I use this for? why should I be mad that I got the Flexus 200 and it doesnt have one? im sure people have their reasons... but I dont know why this is "important" as ive seen some complain about it not having this.

100% get the Klipsch Flexus Core 200 + Sub 100. Been my favorite soundbar I've had, even over like Samsung, Bose, Sonos Arc, & others Ive had. I'm seeing it's on sale so I think you can get the bar, + 2 Sub 100's for right around your price range. Or if you strictly want the best sounding bar & not worried about house shaking bass, the Sennheiser Ambeo Plus is the absolute best sounding bar I've ever heard by literal miles!! I mean it was like experiencing the Rolls Royce of soundbars!!

100% I'm voting the Klipsch. Sony just doesn't sound good to me & they're too expensive for the performance in my opinion. & Sonos is just a disaster right now so I can't recommend Sonos to anyone. But the Flexus system is a fantastic system. 2 4" Subwoofers that hit quite well, & it just ROCKS. And the Sub 100 is a mean subwoofer!

Room calibration doesn't make or break sound staging. I can't exactly speak on the A5000 but I can speak on the S2000. To me, all Sony soundbars are underperformers. Yea they might do DSP work better but if it doesn't sound good overall then that's a deal breaker for me. And Sony is delivering systems that are nowhere near my expectations of them. I think they're starting to get better & closer to my expectations with the Bravia bars, but I've only heard a demo before. The S2000 is their "entry level" bar that some reason can apparently get louder than the A3000-5000-& 7000 (according to rTings.com with SPL readings). And I won't lie it does get quite loud, but it definitely does NOT sound good at high volumes without doing a decent amount of EQ tweaking on my phone. Also that SW5 is the biggest joke of a "flagship" subwoofer I've ever seen. I had an old Sony 5.1 AV unit with a single 8" subwoofer and let me tell you, it was so much better than this SW5, Like twice the performance at about the same size. Hell I honestly can't personally even recommend Sony until they release new subwoofers cause these subs are just ass. The Sonos Mini Sub was legitimately half the size, sounded 10x better & honestly can probably get louder too. I had the Sonos Mini Sub literally sitting on top of the SW5 & honestly I think it might be able to sit 2 mini's on top of the SW5. My Klipsch Flexus on the other hand, entirely different animal. Has been one of my absolute favorite systems along with the Q800B & Sonos Arc + Sub Mini as close runner ups. EDM & especially guitars have an incredible richness to them on this Flexus system that the Q800B & Sonos Arc just don't come close to. And if I'm honest I think this bar has an incredible soundstage. I was watching something the other day and something was happening to the left off screen & it was madly impressive how much I actually thought there seemed to be a whole separate speaker actually making the sound instead of the bar. Also choice of a 10" or 12" subwoofer, & choice to run 2 of them if needed. I have a single 10" (Sub 100) and its definitely a subwoofer that really means business.

The Klipsch is all Bluetooth similar to Sony minus the TV controlling side. App connection works flawlessly and fast for me. 3 band EQ adjustments + dialogue enhancement levels are really good for fine tuning voices. & Having the bass control on the EQ side to control the bar subs & a separate adjustment for the sub 100 is definitely a small bonus for me. Unfortunately I can't speak on anything Atmos related due to TV restrictions & having to use an optical cord. But this thing just rocks with music, especially rock & EDM. Still sounds just as great for movies. Which I'd honestly think is how any good system is but somehow a lot of people think the Bravia bars sound good for movies, but somehow terrible for music. I've never had a system where that's the case. But I have no complaints with movies or music at all with my Klipsch.

Klipsch Flexus Core 200 would be my vote. Right now there's 2 bars, Core 100 & 200 (2.1(.2?) vs 3.1.2), the Sub 100 & Surround 100's. Soon there will be the Sub 200's (12" instead of 10") & Surr 200's (added height driver). Also you can always run 2 sub 100's or 2 sub 200's, unlike Sonos where they don't allow 2 sub mini's to run together, only the full size model. I went to this system from my Sonos Arc, Sub Mini, & 2 Era 100's. And tbh I think this system sounds better than the Arc did! Yea I said it 🤟

Apologies for confusion. Both bars have 2 4" subwoofers built into them, thus me calling them a 2.1 or 3.1 bar. When you order the subwoofer or surrounds, they'll come with a USB that plugs into the back of the bar. On the back of the subwoofer is a 1/2 switch that allows the system to make it the 2nd subwoofer.

More drivers doesn't always mean better in my opinion. I've had a good amount of different soundbar setups like the Sonos Arc, Bose Smart 600, Samsung Q800B, Sony S2000, & others. I was looking at the Sennheiser Ambeo Plus myself, & it looks like an amazing piece, but I get the feeling you might be paying a tad more for the name than performance. Also the lack of tweeters really raises my eyebrows in a bad way. Personally I thought the Bose 600 sounded better, louder, & maybe even more immersive than the Arc did despite being half the size. & The BM700 is just a monster subwoofer. I highly recommend looking at the Bose systems. Or you can get my newest & now favorite soundbar, the Klipsch Flexus 200 & Sub 100. This system just rocks. I sold my Sonos setup (Arc, Sub Mini, 2 Era 100's) for this Klipsch system, & I don't regret it at all!!! Eventually I plan to buy another Sub 100 & the Surround 200's when they release.

As an owner of the Flexus Core 200 + sub 100. I think the Core 300 will be worth the money. But definitely get the Sub 200 with it. The sub 100 is a beast too, but I don't think it'll be quite enough for the 300. The 300 looks like a whole different beast compared to the 200. But I absolutely love my Core 200 & think it's worth every penny. I sold my Sonos Arc, Era 100's & Sub Mini for this setup & I have absolutely no regrets.

I'd look at the Klipsch Flexus Core systems. I went from the Sonos Arc, Era 100's & sub mini to the Core 200 + sub 100 & I have no regrets at all. I don't think there's better at this price. Personally I thought the Arc itself was a bit too soft sounding for me. It sounded good but just didn't have enough umph in it for me. I sold the Sonos setup before I got the Klipsch so I never got to do a direct 1V1 comparison. The Core 200 at my first impression sounded a little sharper & a lot stronger. Definitely rings off the ears better to me. I noticed the bar bass & more specifically the mid-bass to be really nice. I plan to get the rears eventually too. Overall it's been one of my favorite systems I've had, & I've had Bose, JBL, Samsung's, & others. I believe I'd find myself picking this Klipsch system in a blind test as my favorite. But on another note, a few months back after I heard a brief demo of the Sennheiser Ambeo Plus at Best Buy for the first time. I was insanely impressed by it. The clarity, detail, soundstage. Truly felt like a different level of soundbars. If I decide to upgrade in the future & possibly sell my Core 200, it's definitely between the Core 300 or the Ambeo Plus. But I think I'm leaning a bit more towards the Core 300 after reading about some of the issues it has. I don't remember exactly what the issues were, but I definitely don't remember reading it being anything near as bad as the Sonos systems was where it's literally unusable or needing constant resets.

Definitely consider it a fresh restart & upgrade for Klipsch. Onkyo is designing all the electronic internals while Klipsch handles all the drivers. App controls work very well. I absolutely love how this system sounds. Especially with music. And I don't know if I've ever been in this scenario before but I believe this is the first system I legitimately have 0 complaints with.

The Samsung Q800C is a brilliant system with deep adjustments. The Klipsch Flexus Core 200 + sub 100 is an awesome alternative which I'm currently using. Not quite as many adjustments tho, but I don't feel this system is missing any adjustments that would make it better. Having the B/M/T adjustments do a lot, along with the voice enhancement having levels to it, it has a good amount of adjustments. If the Klipsch had center channel adjustments, that would be great to experiment with, although I think I'd find myself just leaving it at 0 most of the time, thus me saying it doesn't really need it.

100% the Klipsch Flexus 200!! The Bose 600 would be a close alternative if you're not huge on bass, but I PROMISE you that the Klipsch bar alone is phenomenal!! The bass in the Klipsch blows away the Bose 600!

The Klipsch Flexus Core 200 would be a good one to look at. Has 2 4" subwoofers built into the bar itself & they really deliver well.

I'd honestly suggest buying the Klipsch Flexus Core 200 bar. It's an all in one with 2 4" subs built in the bar that provide impressive bass. Can add up to 2 external wireless subs later on if you want. But I definitely think the Core 200 is a hell of a system for 500 & honestly has better bass than some soundbars I've had with external subs (Sony Z9F, Samsung Q6CR, few others). Definitely should check it out!

I highly recommend looking at the Klipsch Flexus Core 200! Absolutely amazing system. The bass is pretty remarkable from the bar itself. Had to wait another 2-3 weeks before my sub came but I have to say it has amazing quality. I sold my Sonos Arc, Sub Mini & Era 100's for the Core 200 + sub 100 (might buy the rears in the future) & I have absolutely no regrets. I think this Flexus system is really hard to beat for the price.

Klipsch Flexus Core 200. Absolutely killer system, & I don't think there's better for the money as far as an all in one system. Better than the Sonos Beam & definitely better than the S2000.

I 100% recommend looking at the Klipsch Flexus system. I have the Flexus 200 with 2 4" subwoofers built in & for a standalone bar, it just rocks. Klipsch is releasing a new flagship soundbar soon apparently now containing 4 4" subwoofers & adding 2 side firing drivers. & I'm considering selling my Core 200 + Sub 100 setup to eventually get the Core 300, + 2 Sub 200's..... Or maybe a single Sub 300 if that ever happens 👀

Of those listed, I'd definitely get the Bose by miles. There's also the Klipsch Flexus Core 200 which is similar price & on my opinion a better value system. The bass the Flexus bar produces is impressive, the Bose Smart Soundbar will be alright, but not close to the Klipsch

Klipsch Flexus Core 200. Has 2 4" subs built in that can really pack a punch, optional rears & sub as well. Just an amazing soundbar, especially for the price. I think it's a reallllllllly hard system to be at at the price!

Truthfully I highly doubt it. I mean the bar alone has as much bass, & maybe more than most of the entry level soundbars with a separate subwoofer. Like I had a Sony HT-Z9F, and my Flexus Core 200 honestly has more & deeper bass.

Get the Klipsch Flexus Core 200 + Sub 100. It's an absolutely amazing system. Sub 100 is a sealed 10", or you can get the Sub 200 (12") if you want more. & You can add a 2nd subwoofer if you want.

I understand exactly what you mean. I had both the Cinema 400 & 600 & they both ended up fully dying on me. But this Flexus system definitely feels like a massive step up. App connects with no issues or lagging. I think the partnership with Onkyo was a perfect move. I'm pretty sure Klipsch really only makes speakers, at least I haven't heard or seen Klipsch making receivers nowadays but I haven't done any digging on that. But Onkyo however is a huge name in the AV HT department. So letting Klipsch handle the actual speaker side of it & Onkyo handling everything on the electrical side was a perfect move by Klipsch. Even just the physical bar itself feels like a much better built piece than the Cinema's did. Hell I think it sounds better than my Sonos Arc setup did

Sounds like you're in the same boat as me as far as the Flexus vs Ambeo. Flexus to me is the better deal, but the Sennheiser Ambeo Plus is like the Rolls Royce of soundbars to me. It sounds like it's on an entirely different level than anything I've ever heard. But the Flexus is absolutely amazing for the price. I went to my Core 200 + Sub 100 from my Sonos Arc, Sub Mini, & 2 Era 100's. Even tho I went to a cheaper system I felt I actually upgraded. If I upgrade again, it's definitely between the Flexus Core 300 & the Ambeo Plus. Real toss up for me between the 2. Glad you're happy, I've been recommending this Flexus system to literally everyone 😂

There are some systems like my Klipsch Flexus Core 200 that you can run 2 subs with. Also have the choice of the Sub 100 (10") or the Sub 200 (12") soon

Klipsch is more known for their AV speakers & Subwoofers. Compared to the Q800B I had I'm definitely taking this Flexus system. More full sounding all around. Better & cleaner subwoofer due to it being sealed. & Deeper bass too. & The option of 2 subs will give you ridiculous amounts of bass. I have that bar & 1 Sub 100. I can have it at half volume and have the sub turned down a bit & still hear the picture above my bed rattling.

That Flexus system you posted a link to would embarrass these Samsung systems. Maybe except for the surrounds considering there's only the forward & up firing surround options right now.

Id pick the 990F over the Arc Ultra. Sold my Sonos Arc + Sub Mini + Era 100's setup about a year ago probably & also had a beam 2 before that. But overall I wouldn't say Sonos is worth the money. I'd also highly consider looking at the Klipsch Flexus Core 300 + Sub 200 (12") + Surr 200's. I have the Core 200 + Sub 100 (10")& I absolutely love this system & think it personally sounds better to me than my Arc setup did. I also thought my Samsung Q800B I had a few years ago was better than the Sonos setup too.... So Its between the 990F & the full Flexus 300 for me. I truly think I'd have to sit and listen to them both for a good 100+ hours before actually being able to decide which one sounds better

It is. I had the Arc up front, Era 100's to the left & right of my bed as surrounds, & the sub mini as the subwoofer. I started with the Beam 2 but decided to sell it & get the Era 100's to start before buying the Arc. You might not have too much issue having only a bar cause it seemed like I didn't have too much issue using only a bar & sub. Then I went Era 100's stereo pair & occasional stereo drops would happen, but then it seemed to get even worse once I added the Arc. The only fix ever was literally unplugging everything & re-plugging everything back. Then what felt like around 30+ minutes of setup time, if it worked that is. But I personally say it's too many issues for the price. I went to the Klipsch Flexus Core 200 + sub 100 & haven't regretted it or looked back once.

Of your current options id be between the Flexus Core 300 & the Ambeo Plus. I have the Core 200 right now and it's a very solid system, no complaints at all. Impressive audio & solid app controls. However, I did get a demo of the Ambeo Plus in Best Buy and the level of detail in it was just purely mind blowing! Sounds sooooo insanely polished & perfect it's almost scary how clean it sounds. I've never heard anything come even close to this. I'd say Bose is close (I had the Smart 600, also an absolutely amazing system), but the Ambeo still felt like a different level of sound. I know the Ambeo doesn't offer rears but even from a brief demo I felt it's immersion was off the charts! I cannot express enough how good this thing sounded! If you strictly want the absolute cleanest sounding system, Ambeo Plus is the ONLY way to go!! Now if you want loads of power, the Klipsch Flexus Core 300 might be a bit beefier sounding. This is almost like comparing a Ferrari to a Bentley. Ferrari being loud & ferocious (Klipsch) while Bentley being smooth, clean & luxurious (Sennheiser).

I love my Core 200. Actually the only setup I've had absolutely no complaints about. Sound is very balanced, the center isn't too big & "in your face" sounding like I've experienced with Samsung & others. Dialogue enhancement works surprisingly well. It's a very full sounding system that's very well blended. The soundstage is impressively wide, I've had times it felt there were speakers beyond the bar (not behind but to the sides, & keep in mind I'm not using Atmos at all, just basic optical port). In my opinion it's one of the absolute best systems you can buy for the money. At least there's nothing in the same price range I can recommend over this system.

If you're huge on bass, get the Sennheiser. You can add up to 4 subwoofers to it. Also, I'm not sure if Sonos has fully fixed all their issues, but it's been almost a year since I sold my Arc, Era 100's, & Mini sub cause constant connection issues. Great sounding products, but wow did something go MAJORLY wrong in the transition to the new app. Having to unplug each piece & basically redo my entire setup from scratch multiple times a week was beyond frustrating. I have the Klipsch Flexus Core 200 now & i don't regret my decision at all. Absolutely amazing soundbar, even as a standalone bar. Also, the Klipsch Flexus Core 300 looks like a real beast of a soundbar. I HIGHLY recommend looking into the Core 300.

If you really want to go all out for a badass system. I would recommend buying either the Sennheiser Ambeo Plus, or the Klipsch Flexus Core 300. But first buy only the bar itself & then down the road, buy the subwoofer to go with it. Both of those soundbars will sound good on their own. Nothing house shaking, but they will be very full sounding. I have the Flexus Core 200 myself & had the bar by itself for 3 weeks before the subwoofer arrived. And I was madly impressed how well I could enjoy movies & music without the separate subwoofer!! However based on what I've seen, one day I might try to get my hands on the Sennheiser Ambeo Plus. Sennheiser honestly I feel could be the king of soundbars. But I'll likely never get a system above $2000 myself. That's gotta be like the Rolls Royce of a soundbar to me for me to spend that kind of money.

I'd 100% recommend the Klipsch Flexus Core 200. Has 2 4" subs built into it that REALLY give it a full sound. I had someone laugh when I said that, but like, 4+4=8" cone area...... & Last I knew I'm pretty sure the Samsung Q990C has an 8 inch subwoofer, not that it'll be a close comparison side by side but you get the idea 🤷 I definitely believe it's one of the absolute best systems out there at this price. Plus you can buy a separate subwoofer later on for like $300, or $250 right now for black friday I believe. Or another close but different alternative would be the Bose Smart 600. Man this little bar sounds absolutely amazing, gets quite loud, but also remarkably clean audio reproduction! Not much bass from the unit alone but add the BM700 to it & you have a budget system BEAST.

Try to see if you can find the Klipsch Flexus Core 200 on sale. I'm seeing it on sale from Walmart for 349. Little more than what you want to spend but it absolutely blows all those you mentioned away. I have the S2000 as well and it's alright, bass is eh, clarity is eh. I will say it gets loud ASF, but that's the only good thing I can say. But it's an odd bar cause without surround on it plays as a 2.1 while with surround on it plays as a 3.1, at least I believe that's what I'm experiencing. The Beam 2 is wayyy overpriced for its performance in my opinion. Had it for awhile too. But can't speak on the Samsung but I guarantee it won't touch the Flexus system.

First off I should mention I haven't experienced any form of Dolby related content with it due to TV restrictions. TV has an arc port but the bar is an eArc port. Let's say you got the bar by itself, which I had for 3 weeks before the subwoofer came. I immediately noticed how big and full of a sound it has, it has 2 4" subwoofers built into it that REALLY hit well. Honestly better than some of the soundbars I've had with a small separate subwoofer like the Sony HT-Z9F for example. I like to say it sounded like a tower speaker in a sense. Has a 3 band equalizer, also the dialogue enhancement really works well for me. Also the balance you can set on the bar subwoofers from the separate subwoofer is really nice, like turn the bar bass up & the separate subwoofer down and you'll get better mid bass, or vice versa. I also have to say it has an impressive soundstage, I was watching something the other night and it felt like the sound was coming from another whole speaker to the left or right, like literally away from the bar. If you like loud music like rock or EDM music, stuff like guitars & EDM really shine on it. If you decide to buy a subwoofer down the road you'll have 2 choices, the sub 100 which is a 10" subwoofer, or the Sub 200 which is a 12" subwoofer. & You can run 2 subs if you find 1 isn't enough. 1 Sub 100 is definitely more than enough for my bedroom, I've had a few times I heard the picture above my bed rattling, and I only had the system at like 50% volume & the sub turned down a bit too! I've had a ton of different soundbar setups, anywhere from the Bose Smart 600 + BM700, Samsung Q800B, Sonos Arc, JBL Bar 500, and other lower end ones. But this one I have to say is my #1 favorite, followed by the Bose, then the Samsung. It's kinda a toss up between the Flexus & the Bose system I had, but I lean a bit more towards the Klipsch cause it just sounds a bit more full to me, especially with the sealed subwoofer. The Samsung was close too but it was a little too in my face with the center channel, & honestly I thought it was a bit too bass heavy even with channel levels turned down. I have to say for the price, I have a hard time believing you'll find a better system.

The entire Cinema series is terrible. Sound-wise they're alright but reliability they're all terrible. I first had the Cinema 400 & eventually got the Cinema 600. The Cinema 400 started acting up like not turning on immediately. I sold it, got the 600 & Eventually the 600 started doing the same thing. And I actually had 2 of the 600's fully died on me. You'd see the power light indication just flickering & shit. And apparently it was the same story for the Cinema 800 & 1200 too. But the Flexus system really seems like a step up. The app connection feels seamless. I think the Flexus system is a huge step forward with having Onkyo (a huge AV name) taking care of the internal electronics.

Personally, I'd say it's between either the Ambeo or the Flexus. I'd say skip the Arc Ultra. I've heard it's mainly just the Arc with more bass, but very similar performance all around. Samsung is a solid choice, but Samsung has never truly "wowed" me before, & I've had 3 with the HW-Q6CR, Q600C, & the best I've had the Q800B. It was a solid system all around, but again, nothing really blew me away. & I sometimes found the subwoofer to be a bit overpowering, even at -6. & Also the Q800's have everything the Q900's have except less front channels & 1 less side channel. But the subwoofer is practically damn near the same. Sony ive heard mixed reviews about the Bravia bars, but until Sony releases new subwoofers, I can't recommend anyone buying Sony. I have the S2000 + SW5 & Even the SW5 subwoofer is terribly underwhelming for the price from my experience. Now I currently have the Core 200 myself + the sub 100. I have no complaints with this system at all, which is something I've never said about a soundbar before & I've had a lot anywhere from the Sonos Arc, Bose 600, few JBL'S, & others. I will admit the Bose 600 + BM700 setup I had is quite a contender as my favorite. But I think I'd lean a bit more to the Klipsch system in a blind test. There's just something about how full I think it sounds to me. But then you look at the price difference compared to performance difference, and the Klipsch feels like a much better deal. There's a deal I saw on Amazon for the Core 200, + Surr 100's, + 2 Sub 100's for 1k which seems like a steal to me. Now the Ambeo on the other hand is a fantastic SOUNDING system, possibly the best I've heard with the level of detail it has. But I've read quite a bit about bugs in the system so it's possibly kinda a hit or miss. I haven't had a single issue at all with my Flexus system. & I think the subwoofers are probably better on the Flexus system too considering you can buy either a 10" or 12" while Sennheiser only offers an 8". & Another con of the Sennheiser is there's no rears offered which is quite shocking. So my vote is the Flexus system!

I'd definitely pick between the Polk Magnifi Max AX or the Klipsch Flexus Core 200 + sub 100. I have the Core 200 + Sub 100 myself and it's an absolutely amazing system. I thought it seemed to have a better overall sound than my OG Arc did. And the Sub 100 is definitely no joke either, that thing pounds! Pictures rattling on the wall across the room at <50% volume & Sub at 0. The Polk was another system on my radar but never pulled the trigger on. It looks like a solid & serious system. But I just couldn't get myself to buy it. But I think the Flexus system is possibly the best system out there for the price. And you can run 2 subs as well which seems insane from my experience with just 1 Sub. Recently I saw the system on I believe either Amazon or Best Buy with the Core 200, Surr 100's, & 2 Sub 100's for just over 1k. And I don't think there's a system more serious than this for the price.

Klipsch Flexus Core 200! Absolutely awesome soundbar. 2 4" Subwoofers built in that really hit well. Sounds almost like a big tower speaker in a sense. Can pair 2 subwoofers & your choice of the Sub 100 (10") or the Sub 200 (12"). Also 2 choices of rear speakers with the Surr 100 (3" forward driver) or the Surr 200 (1 3" forward & 1 3" up firing). App connects through Bluetooth & works really well. I absolutely love mine!

I have the Klipsch Flexus Core 200 + sub 100 & I've never enjoyed music more, even without the Sub 100 it's still a fantastic sounding system, has 2 4" Subwoofers built in that really compliment the system well! Guitars absolutely shine, & it's just such a full sound like I've never heard before on another soundbar, & I've had a lot anywhere from my previous setup of the Sonos Arc, Era 100's, & Sub Mini, JBL Bar 500, Bose Smart 600 (another absolutely fantastic system), on and on and on. Imo nothing touches this Flexus system for the price. If money is no object, the Sennheiser Ambeo Plus is definitely the best soundbar you can buy. I had a demo of one for the first time the other day, & I was convinced that Sennheiser is (imo) the absolute king of soundbars. I mean it was just UNREAL! If I ever decide to upgrade from my Flexus Core 200 system, that's DEFINITELY the system I'm buying without any 2nd thought.

The Klipsch Flexus Core 300 would be an awesome choice. I have the Core 200 & it's a fantastic system, but the 300 looks like a different beast. 4 4" subwoofers built in, up firing & side firing drivers. My Core 200 has an impressive soundstage so I can't Imagine how insane the soundstage of the Core 300 is.

Damn man, could've bought the Klipsch Flexus Core 200 + 2 Sub 100's (10" sub) for that price. Might not be quite as loud but I guarantee it'll be a cleaner & better sound. If you still have time to cancel the order I'd REALLY consider this Flexus system. I have the Core 200 + 1 Sub 100 & it's been my favorite soundbar I've had. Was listening to some really deep bass music the other night & even at volume 15/50, with sub adjusted -4, the picture hanging above my bed was rattling on the wall! I've never had the opportunity to turn it up past 30 before but man it was really starting to flex its muscle at 30+. I absolutely love this system and it might be the first system I have absolutely no complaints about sound-wise. I promise if you can get this setup, you won't regret it!

Flexus Core 200 by LITERAL MILES!!! I have no experience with the apple home pod. Had the Q600C briefly, bar sounds alright but the subwoofer sounds like shit. Had the JBL Bar 500 & it was just a sloppy system all around, crappy subwoofer & distorted bar. & The Beam 2 is eh. Quite weak & very dull sounding. If I can comfortably listen to a movie at 60%+ volume, that sucks in my book. Hell I even had it at 100% in my bedroom before & I was just like "that's all this things got???" I also thought the Arc was too soft for me as well. The Core 200 bar by itself is just fantastic! 2 4" subwoofers that really hit hard. It's such a full sounding bar it's amazing! Dialogue enhancement works pretty well too if needed, + a 3 band bass mid & treble equalizer. Choice of either the Sub 100 or Sub 200 (10" or 12") & you can run 2 subs regardless of which sub you buy, unlike Sonos where you can't run 2 sub minis, only 2 full size subwoofers. I sold my Arc, Era 100's & sub mini for my Core 200 + Sub 100 & I don't regret it at all. The soundstage is impressively wide sounding considering the lack of side firing drivers. I've had scenes in movies where it sounds like there's something at the side of my room, beyond the soundbar!

I just posted my thoughts on testing 4 different sound bars and for me the best Soundbar system hands down is Klipsch Core 200 with surrounds and Sub. Samsung 990C is absolute garbage in Bass department and if you are only choosing between JBL and Sammy, go with JBL all day long. Samsung has room correction and surround effects but when it comes to pure quality of music, it doesn't come close. Samsung bass is a hollow thumping rather than room filling punchy bass. It is not a bad product but based on your listening preference, I would recommend Klipsch. Unfortunately it is low on stock. JBL is another great option. Also, do give Vizio Elevate a try. I was simply blown away by its performance. I am not sure why it is under rated, may be because people consider it as a value brand vs a premium product but the sound quality of it is equal to products at double or more money.

I have a dedicated home theatre room where I have a proper surround system set up however due to the shape of my living room, I have been looking for a soundbar system that will fit my needs and listening habits and preference. I bought and tested below systems at prices mentioned. In this post I will share my personal thoughts and hopefully this will help you decide if you were in the same boatd as I wasnt able to find such a comparison. Price without taxes - * Samsung Q990C - $700 Bought at a deal from Samsung directly. * Vizio Elevate P514a-H6 - $599 (Amazon) * JBL Bar 1300X - $1,299 (Amazon) * Klipsch Flexus 200 System - $1,047 (Klipsch Directly) Samsung Q990C - This is a very good sound bar system for watching movies and for surround sound effects. The construction is excellent and connections just work out of the box. I didnt have any disconnection issues and I like that the surround speakers and individually powered vs connected to the sub. However the sub lacks a major punch. It is frankly pathetic. I tried different placement of the sub which actually dramatically improved the bass however it is not punchy. Funny thing is that I had a much cheaper Vizio soundbar which had a smaller sub but the bass was much better. I am actually surprised why this point gets missed in critic reviews and gets pointed by actual users on many forums. If you think it is good, it means you havent tried other subs and for my use case where I didn't need it for specific home theatre usage but rather both music and movies (More music than movies), I had to return it because despite getting a phenomenal deal, while listening to music, I constantly felt that the bass is missing. But for the discounted price of $700, it is an excellent product if you want it for watching movies and are fine with a sub optimal bass. Vizio Elevate - WOW! When I was setting it up, I had zero expectations simply because of the low price but I was so wrong. It is a phenomenal value for money and if you are looking for best bang for your buck, just get it. I can assure you that you will fall in love the moment you will start using it. Most importantly the bass of this is way better than Samsung. Not even a competition. The build quality though is very good, is not at the same level as others and surround speakers are also lacking a bit. My issue is that just like my last vizio soundbar (lasted for 5 years), the surrounds connect to the sub and I dont like it. Plus I like clean set up and I hate the super long wires of the surround speakers. The issues that I am mentioning could be nit picking and actually do not take anything away from the actually performance of the sound bar. Now the real question, is Samsung worth spending extra $100 at $700, my response would be yes if you like better build quality and surround sound effects. However if your main use is music and occasional movies, get the Vizio. If you are pressed with money, just buy Vizio, you will not be disappointed. if I had just these two options, I would pick Vizio for my use case. It sounds way better for me. JBL Bar 1300X - This is overall best when you consider build quality, sound for both music and movies, connections, setup etc. The bass of the sub is a monster and side by side the Samsung Sub looks like a child. If money is no concern and you want to buy a product where your usage is equal movies and music, JBL 1300X is something you should consider. Now should you spend almost $600 more than Samsung. This is a subjective question and I am frankly undecided because as much as I love this system, I don't think it is worth spending $600 more just because of bass. But if you dont have issues with money and want excellent system with wall shaking bass, you should pick this over Samsung. Klipsch Flexus Core 200 System - There is a reason why this system has been sold out since launch and I waited for few months to get it delivered as this is still being on back order. This is an amazing system and overall my favorite. The build quality is excellent and just the soundbar without surrounds and the sub is the best out of all other sound bars. When you connect surrounds and the sub, it takes it to another level. Frankly the sub of this is phenomenal. Don't go by the size of the sub, it is actually punchy and can shake your entire house. I was thinking of getting a larger sub before testing it but now I am sitting on my couch with a smile on my face because the sub is just right and adds to the already decent bass from the soundbar. This is also my first Klipsch system and I am already thinking of changing my entire home theatre with Klipsch. For me it is worth paying extra over Samsung, not even a question. I would argue that just listening to music, this is best out of every other sound bar that I tested. The sound is clear, crisp and balanced. For example without cranking up the bass, it delivers the right amount of bass to enjoy the music without overwhelming the vocals. So in summary - Vizio - best bang for the buck, excellent soundbar for money Samsung - Great option for home theatre, not the best for music because it lacks the bass JBL - Overall great product but expensive. If your use case is equal for movies and music, it is a great product. Klipsch - Best for listening to music, good for movies. Excellent bass, best standalone Soundbar. And I am keeping it because it fits my needs perfectly. My final advice would be to test yourself different options. Yes, it can be pain in the neck to try different products but you will be surprised what you will end up liking based on the shape of your room and listening preference. Edit - The more I listen to Klipsch, the more it is making me fall in love. I just finished listening to "High Hopes" by Pink Floyd. WOW! It fills the room with sound and my living room is HUGE with 20 feet high ceiling. I feel like I am sitting at the center enveloped by the sound. Bass is punchy and you can feel it on your chest rather than just something thumping in the corner like Samsung. if you can get your hands on this system, please do give it a try. You might end up falling in love.

I like my klipsch flexus 200 soundbar setup

Klipsch Flexus 200, I swear that thing has a small sub even when it doesn't.

IMO if you want a soundbar-only setup, nothing beats the Flexus core 200, like even without a sub there's somehow decent bass on it. I nabbed one for $200 from Marketplace and I couldn't be happier.

If your dad loves audio, consider a Klipsch flexus 100 or 200. The flexus 100 is a 2.1ch soundbar...but it lets you (or him) add surround speakers and subwoofers later on! That'll offer a much more quality experience than any solution that offers a sub + soundbar at 200. No Atmos for the flexus 100, so if my budget allows, i would do the flexus 200. But either will be a great step up from TV speakers. Or...give him a best buy voucher or something so he can listen in stores and top up for a nicer soundbar if he likes

So awesome that it's backwards compatible like that and not just forced to use same model wireless subs and Rears. I was totally sold after a couple weeks of non stop researching so many different brands and models. Just checked out on Amazon and the Flexus 200 will be here tomorrow! Been investing in hexagonal designer soundproofing for our shared wall, in anticipation of this moment! I will eventually upgrade to the Flexus wireless rears and then the Flexus sub. But since I already have a decent wired Polk 10" sub, that'll do just fine until then. When it gets here, I'm curious to see if any of my existing wired surrounds may also work with it, in the mean time. Will update soon.

Thanks for your response! I have been wanting to know this before buying the Flexus 200, now I'm set and gonna get it for sure! The fact that other speakers can connect with it, subs & even surrounds! Nice!

Pretty good comment. I got the Klipsch Core 200, but the dialogue is way too quiet. I’m considering whether I should refund it and get the HT-S2000 instead. I don’t watch movies much—mostly listen to music and game.

I also have the flexus core 200, only the soundbar and it sounds really amazing. Even without the sub 100, movies and series sound really good. The soundbar on is own already has enough bass for me. I'm thinking of buying the surr 100 for a complete surround setup, 5.1.2 channel.

This man knows what he's talking about, I'm in love with my core 200 💪.

With the q930 you get physical surrounds and a seperate subwoofer unit, this just smokes arc ultra on its own or sony bar 8 or flexus core 200. If you were planning on adding more surrounds etc on the others then you could have an actual comparison. But if you just buy a bar and compare it to the full kit of the q930D, the Q930D just smokes them

My core 200 arrives tomorrow. Replacement for an RSB-11

Flexus core 200. Great bass response and crystal audio

I have as well. The thing gets really really loud which is impressive. Think the dialogue is good but could be better. For the price it’s a great deal for sure. Bought a wired sub off Facebook too to hook into it which is fun.