Klipsch - Flexus Core 300

Sony is not good now, there are a lot of good options besides it. Go for Loewe Home Cinema 553 (if you can spend \~ 3k on it), or another option would be Klipsch Flexus Core 300, with surr's and either original subwoofer or get SVS. These options would would be better than Sonos and sound way more. P.S Do not forget Sonos does not support DTS:X and DTS-HD MA.

Sonos sounds flat, yeah immersive sounds with the backs (Eras 300) will be quite good, but the soundbar itslef is not that good. If you're fine with that and you do not need DTS:X and DTS-HD MA you can go with Sonos, but for example Klipsch will be better in terms of quality. Music (your usecase) and movies sounds flawless. Do not forget, music is also in a movies, so it's important to everyone. Anyway, soundbars (as you know) are mostly designed to listen to music in the background, nor directly. Full Klipsch set would cost you around 2300 EUR.

The Klipsch Flexus 200/300 series have great sound without a sub. Can add surrounds and sub later, and has provision for a subwoofer pre-out so you can add any sub you’d like

I haven’t heard the 990f in my own room (just at a friends house), but have a JBL BAR1300X with 12” sub that I got refurb for $770, and have a Klipsch Flexus 300 with their 200 surrounds and their 12” sub. The Klipsch bar by itself was very impressive. Obviously much more expensive, but I think I’d rather go with just the Flexus 300 at first and add the surrounds and sub later with how good the bar itself was. It honestly surprised the crap out of me, I thought the sub was hooked up when I first set up the bar. If you have the extra coin to spend, I’d 100% recommend looking into the Klipsch setup. The 990f vs 1300x, the 990 has a little better bar clarity for music listening, but for movies, the punch from the 1300x fits my liking better, once I got the EQ dialed in on the app. It’s very impressive for the refurb price, if I paid retail, I’d absolutely rather spend the extra and get the Klipsch setup

Klipsch Flexus Core 300 if you can come up a bit or wait for a sale. It also gives the flexibility of adding a powered subwoofer of your choice down the road where many of the others do not.

The klipsch option with your current subwoofer will outclass the Sonos offering by a wide margin.

There are already reviews of the Core300 system, and overall, it’s not as good as the Arc Ultra setup. Core300 is muddy and In particular, the Surr200 falls far behind the Era300, and unfortunately, even Dirac Live can’t save the underwhelming performance of the height channels. If someone really needs DTS:X — which, to be honest, most people don’t — then the Sony HT-A9M2 is a better option. That said, the ultimate Sonos setup, especially when paired with SonosSequencer, easily outperforms all other soundbar systems.

Yeah in that case seems 300 the only option, but with its surround you can tell it’s just standard average rears, not flagship level

I say wait and get the Core 300! I have the Core 200 & it's just awesome!! 3 band equalizer & dialogue enhancement that really works well so you can fine tune vocals. Can add 2 subs with either the Sub 100 (10") or the Sub 200 (12"). 2 options for rears, with or without an up firing driver. 2 4" drivers in the bar that really help give it a full & blended sound. The Core 300 will have 4 4" subwoofers on the bar, & adds 2 side firing drivers. I definitely think it'll be a huge contender as a top flagship soundbar.

As an owner of the Flexus Core 200 + sub 100. I think the Core 300 will be worth the money. But definitely get the Sub 200 with it. The sub 100 is a beast too, but I don't think it'll be quite enough for the 300. The 300 looks like a whole different beast compared to the 200. But I absolutely love my Core 200 & think it's worth every penny. I sold my Sonos Arc, Era 100's & Sub Mini for this setup & I have absolutely no regrets.

I'd definitely wait for the Core 300. I do think the Arc Ultra setup could be fantastic as well, however they're still having so many connection issues I can't possibly recommend them. It was the worst headache I've ever had to deal with when it didn't work, which was most of the time.

Of your current options id be between the Flexus Core 300 & the Ambeo Plus. I have the Core 200 right now and it's a very solid system, no complaints at all. Impressive audio & solid app controls. However, I did get a demo of the Ambeo Plus in Best Buy and the level of detail in it was just purely mind blowing! Sounds sooooo insanely polished & perfect it's almost scary how clean it sounds. I've never heard anything come even close to this. I'd say Bose is close (I had the Smart 600, also an absolutely amazing system), but the Ambeo still felt like a different level of sound. I know the Ambeo doesn't offer rears but even from a brief demo I felt it's immersion was off the charts! I cannot express enough how good this thing sounded! If you strictly want the absolute cleanest sounding system, Ambeo Plus is the ONLY way to go!! Now if you want loads of power, the Klipsch Flexus Core 300 might be a bit beefier sounding. This is almost like comparing a Ferrari to a Bentley. Ferrari being loud & ferocious (Klipsch) while Bentley being smooth, clean & luxurious (Sennheiser).

If you really want to go all out for a badass system. I would recommend buying either the Sennheiser Ambeo Plus, or the Klipsch Flexus Core 300. But first buy only the bar itself & then down the road, buy the subwoofer to go with it. Both of those soundbars will sound good on their own. Nothing house shaking, but they will be very full sounding. I have the Flexus Core 200 myself & had the bar by itself for 3 weeks before the subwoofer arrived. And I was madly impressed how well I could enjoy movies & music without the separate subwoofer!! However based on what I've seen, one day I might try to get my hands on the Sennheiser Ambeo Plus. Sennheiser honestly I feel could be the king of soundbars. But I'll likely never get a system above $2000 myself. That's gotta be like the Rolls Royce of a soundbar to me for me to spend that kind of money.

The entire Cinema series is terrible. Sound-wise they're alright but reliability they're all terrible. I first had the Cinema 400 & eventually got the Cinema 600. The Cinema 400 started acting up like not turning on immediately. I sold it, got the 600 & Eventually the 600 started doing the same thing. And I actually had 2 of the 600's fully died on me. You'd see the power light indication just flickering & shit. And apparently it was the same story for the Cinema 800 & 1200 too. But the Flexus system really seems like a step up. The app connection feels seamless. I think the Flexus system is a huge step forward with having Onkyo (a huge AV name) taking care of the internal electronics.

The Klipsch Flexus Core 300 would be an awesome choice. I have the Core 200 & it's a fantastic system, but the 300 looks like a different beast. 4 4" subwoofers built in, up firing & side firing drivers. My Core 200 has an impressive soundstage so I can't Imagine how insane the soundstage of the Core 300 is.

I'd pick the Klipsch setup. That's my exact setup and it's an awesome system. Really fills my room quite well. Unless you can find a Samsung Q800D, then I'd grab that over the Klipsch. But I wouldn't buy the Q800F as I think it's a small downgrade from the Q800D due to the subwoofer. That new subwoofer is the same Sub as the S800's slim soundbar series subwoofer. I've personally had both the S800B and the Q800B and the older Q800B single 8" subwoofer is significantly better than the 6.5" + 8" PR design. I'll never understand why they did this but I can only assume it's to put a little bit more distance in the difference between the Q800's & Q900's considering they both used to have the same subwoofer design (or extremely similar). But I definitely think they could've come up with something better than what they made

Hated my kef xio. $2500 for an overall bad sounding bar and I was really annoyed. Maybe they fixed something now, but when I got it a couple weeks after release it was just not great. Sonos is good overall as it just works out of the box - not much tinkering involved. I have the 300 and surrounds with an SVS sub. The setup is really nice and works well. DIRAC is cool and the option to get nitty gritty with it is a plus. Only thing I’ve encountered is some DD+ content when streaming is lower than others when it comes to volume. It’s really strange and inconsistent. But for Atmos (streaming and disc), DTSX, and DTSHD, the system works as should. It’s also great it upscales all non-atmos content and does a great job with it

I used to have a Klipsch setup a while back and the Klipsch 300 reminds me so much of it regarding sound. It’s full sounding with grunt - the front stage is really huge especially when paired with the surrounds. Just know you’ll have to pay for the full bandwidth version of DIRAC. Klipsch only offers up to 500hz. I enjoyed Sonos for a long time both arc and arc ultra. Arc ultra of course sounds better due to more bass and drivers but the full system with dual subs was a pretty stellar setup. I mean I was shocked at how good things could sound especially effects. I’ll give Sonos the edge when it comes to surround compared to Klipsch only because the era 300’s are good at what they do such as offering more versatility compared to the standard upward and forward firing driver from the flexus 200’s. However, Sonos had too much treble for me at higher volumes where voices sounded harsh and of course being I was used to home theater subs I wanted more so I went Klipsch instead.

I hated the xio. Sound was tinny, flat, extremely focused even with atmos content - no width to the soundstage. Andrew Robinson’s review was exactly what I experienced. Went with the 300 full system with 3rd party sub afterwards and haven’t looked back.

The Klipsch is 200watts and is too low for me, so I went bigger and went with SVS. If your neighbors are sensitive the Klipsch sub is probably a better fit

I would never buy Klipsch at full price. It will probably be in the $800 range with a Slickdeals adorama link by Black Friday. What I find compelling about the Flexus 300 is the sub out so I can use a much higher performance sub from the likes of HSU, RSL, SVS, new Klipsch RP lineup or something similar. There is no Sonos, Samsung, or any other soundbar sub that will come remotely close to the performance of one of those. I’m also interested to see how the integrated Dirac calibration software works. It works flawlessly with my AVR on my other system. I’ll definitely wait till it’s out in the real world with some reviews, and on sale to make a decision. I know people take apart their Samsung subs to create a sub out for third party subs, but I don’t have any interest in a Frankenstein system.

Klipsch flexus core with a sub. Fantastic value with ability to add surround if you’d like down the road

Ignore looks, prioritize audio Quality. Most people recommend here would Samsung Q990D. I personally own an older model from Samsung and a new Klipsch Flexus Core. I like the sound of the Samsung better than the Klipsch. Bose, LG and JBL are recognized brands, but I haven't seen many people recommend them.

It seemed helpful enough, but directing you towards soundbars was probably the right call. While you won't get the same sound as discrete channels, soundbars are still pretty good options. I'm partial to the Klipsch Flexus