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#56 in Soundbars

Nakamichi - DRAGON

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"Back to back in my opinion they blow the airpods pro 2 out of the water in clarity, separation, and punch."


"Literally couldn't think of any pair of IEMs + dongle dacs could sound as analytical as the C3P+ for around $70. ... detail is just sooo much better. The C3P+ is just leagues ahead the I5 in terms of detail and resolution. ... the C3P+ is actually the closest sounding one to really expensive iems or headphone that I have."


"these have the deepest, cleanest and "tumpiest" bass out there."

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"the dragon 12s are closer to REL 8/12 subs. ... No soundbar has anything close to this sub available. ... The 12s alone make this system untouchable by any other home theater in a box. No comparison!! ... Couple the 12”subs into the experience, you’re not getting that experience short of Svs sub territory. ... It’s a house shaking, chest thumping experience that is not able to be reproduced by any other soundbar or home theater in a box. ... Adding the two 12s to the 8s really has taken the system to the next level. ... The house literally shakes now with honest chest thumping levels. ... BTW, the 12s are RELs! ... The 90 lbs behemoths in the room! ... The chuffing from the 8s many reviewers have noted is gone when used with the 12s."


"nothing trust me nothing will literally hit u that hard not even Canelo Alvarez"


"IER not having absolutely incredible bass is objectively BS. ... The bass reading on the IER is so off what you'll actually hear if you have them inserted properly, it's absolutely ridiculous. ... I have Fatfreq Maestro SE CIEM'D which are their heaviest hitting premium model - CIEM-ing it only make the bass hit much harder, and it's still not quite as heavy as the IER."

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"As far as the minimalist stage provided by a sound at footprint, dragon sounds like it’s making sounds from the corners of the room. The sound appears to come from old speakers that were left in place, like a visual prop."


"The rear speakers make a huge difference along with the upfiring speakers for Atmos content."


"our bedroom sounds like an imax theatre…"

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"Name an Atmos system that is better without using wires or an AV. ... Home theater in a box!!! ... Dragon is next level when compared to any other soundbar you mentioned."

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"The Dragon system calibration is ridiculously detailed. ... It just needs to be done manually on screen which is fine."


"more customizable ... I really enjoy the customization and detail of the Dragon."


"When this is all done correctly, it sounds pretty amazing."

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"Me too. And I use Apple Airpods. $$$$$"


"$179 is pretty nuts. ... As long as people keep buying them and paying the esports tax, they're gonna keep selling them at this crazy price. ... The G305 feels really similar, but at 1/3 the price. ... I don't truely understand why the G pro light is all the rage. ... I used a G pro for a week, and while it did feel very smooth and responsive, I also had a G305 that felt very similar."


"overpriced and don't ever prove the price difference in sound over the az100."

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"it's completely unnecessary because it's very underwhelming on low to mid volume ... in low to mid volume it very underwhelming you really have to turn it way up to get the real surround Atmospheric feel ... it's really intended for large dedicated rooms but in a small apartment where you don't want to disturb the neighbors it's completely incompatible."


"the subwoofers started struggling quickly without even reaching a high volume"


"It's a crime that a $1000 soundbar only has an 8 inch sub."

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"it's completely unnecessary because it's very underwhelming on low to mid volume ... in low to mid volume it very underwhelming you really have to turn it way up to get the real surround Atmospheric feel ... it's really intended for large dedicated rooms but in a small apartment where you don't want to disturb the neighbors it's completely incompatible."


"the subwoofers started struggling quickly without even reaching a high volume"

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"I wasn’t in the first few weeks as it seemed to take forever to dial it in to look good. ... In my experience it is not plug and play. ... You will need a lot of patience and take time to learn the settings to get the best out of it."


"Epson is brighter, but is insanely green. ... Once you have it accurately calibrated the brightness drops off lower than the Sony or JVC with none of the benefits."


"I don't understand how choosing a mode that says CINEMA matters. As an example all of the modes on my Hisense C2 Ultra including FILMMAKER are wildly off from calibrated. White balance isn't correct, color values aren't correct, and brightness / contrast at default also is not correct. The Warm1 mode is wildly off from 6500k cinematic white etc yet it is the default. ... I have to assume the same with these other units even though I don't use them, that you can in fact calibrate them. It doesn't even take long to dial in the major settings, although admittedly you'd never really get their lamp output exactly the same. ... Now I imagine people thinking the Epson will make everyone look like The Hulk and isn't capable of delivering accurate images, and once again the Valerion wins."

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Acrobatic-Physics-75 • 6 months ago

Nakamichi Dragon is the best right now but I dont have 4000 dollars for that. But yes I had the Q990D and currently have the Q990F and is great.

r/Soundbars • Is the Q99d the best thing on the planet? That’s all I see in this community. Does anyone use something different? I have a Bravia Bar 8 for example ->
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AkiraSieghart • 12 months ago

I have the Nakamichi Dragon and it's just about on par with my old discreet 7.1.4 setup. The only thing that is kind of lacking is height effects, but you're not going to get *good* heights with any soundbar.

r/Soundbars • Best soundbars? ->
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Alarming-Debt3290 • 2 months ago

I’m guessing you maybe bought it by now or decided not to. I have the dragon with 2-12” subs. I haven’t heard the dual opposing 8” subs. IMO, it’s amazing. I’m about to update the firmware to get the ULTRA AHD which supposedly makes a big difference. But anyway, I’m no sound engineer but for me, i dig it. Most the audiophiles out there will steer you away and tell you to build a home theater system with separate components and also say it’s Way over priced. The dragon is plug and play. No wires to run, and to me, it sounds incredible. The center bar sounds so crisp, the 2-12’s get you that bass you want and the rears for sure immerse you more than most rears that come with sound bars. Get what you want man, I’m happy with the dragon I just hope it lasts

r/Soundbars • Nakamichi Dragon 11.4.6 ->
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bjorn651 • 4 months ago

I have the dragon with 2 12 inch subwoofers in front and 2 8 inch subwoofers in the back in my basement and it sounds incredible. I have the Nakamichi shockwafe wireless 11.2.6 in my master bedroom and firmware update and it's the best bang for the buck sounds very good.

r/Soundbars • What’s the best soundbar system (both surround sound and best single soundbar) money is not a consideration. What’s the best money can buy ->
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breguet17751991 • 6 months ago

No doubt the 990 series is good but "sounds worse" is definitely a far, probably biased claim about Dragon's performance. Have you heard them side by side? On Amazon, there are many verified customer reviews comparing Dragon to Samsung or Sonos or even separates and receivers and a large amount prefers the Dragon.

r/Soundbars • Samsung Q990f or Nakamichi ShockWafe 11.2.6 or Nakamichi Dragon 11.4.6 with 8 inch subwoofers ->
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CCornel7 • 4 months ago

90% of people who complain about the dragon have literally never even heard it. Of the 10% that have, half of them it wasn't in their room after tuning. That leaves about 5% of owners who don't love the sound. I know 3 people with the dragon that are literally more than over the room with it. The overwhelming majority of user reviews on YouTube/the internet also love it. The price, and the original subs not performing to claimed standards are the only 2 real complaints for a soundbar system. But the subs aren't bad, and the 12s are insane. For the people that just don't like the sound, well sure. Freaking every single thing is subjective. But get over yourself with the baseless "dragon is trash" message. Its not. Its expensive, and at that price I wish it came with 12s instead.

r/Soundbars • Sony Bravia Theatre Quad vs Nakamichi Dragon 11.4.6 vs Sennheiser Ambeo Max - Which is best? ->
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CCornel7 • 6 months ago

All of his complaints are "valid," but they are also all just what I call "YouTube video complaints." Lol I watch reviews too, and used to think it made me quite the expert. I certainly had the *knowledge*. But you know what's better than knowledge? *EXPERIENCE.* Ain't no one who has ever actually heard a dragon and a q990 system in the same room ever gonna say they're close. They're definitely not. The internet has made everyone believe their experts in their content niche, but remember, 90%+ of the comments you'll get are people who have never owned the product. (Sometimes even when they say they do 😅) Or they just own the product they're defending. Now VALUE wise.. totally different story. A q990 system, or a second hand Sonos system destroys the dragon value wise. You can get a Sonos Arc and sub for under 400 each, and era 100s for around 150 each. Let's say between 1000-1200 total. The dragon is better, but not 3x better. If you want the best sound possible from a soundbar system, go dragon w/ 12in subs front and put the 8s in the back (unless you're gonna go wild and do 4 12s) Second to that would be an arc ultra w/ dual subs and Era 300s as rears.

r/Soundbars • Samsung Q990f or Nakamichi ShockWafe 11.2.6 or Nakamichi Dragon 11.4.6 with 8 inch subwoofers ->
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Critical_Nebula84 • 25 days ago

I just bought the 8inch dragon set from best buy and one single 12 inch add on sub on ebay from the source grade A I think this should be great and it was all still cheaper than the normal price of just the system

r/Soundbars • Nakamichi Dragon 11.4.6 ->
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D3capitati0n • 5 months ago

The Nakamichi Dragon is my daily driver. I play Helldivers on the system for the surround sound, games and movies have never sounded better than this. Highly recommend it, as I believe Nakamichi is also running a sale on it right now.

r/Soundbars • Best soundbars on the market currently? ->
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D3capitati0n • 6 months ago

I've had the Nakamichi Dragon for a while now. I always liked how powerful it sounds, especially after I added a 12" sub to it. That thing hits HARD. For some context i purchased Dragon after I decided to downsize from my previous house to a better location. Now living in an apartment, I had to find a setup that worked without driving my partner or my dog crazy. That said, it wasn’t perfect. The bass was a bit strong after integrating the 12” sub to the point that it kinda was overpowering the rest of the system. The soundstage was wide and height/surround effects were solid. Definitely better than other soundbars i’ve heard such as the Q990D and the Sonos Arc but the placement of objects around my listening area didn't feel as precise or sharp as I was expecting. Then this firmware upgrade dropped adding some new ‘AHD Ultra’ mode and yeah… I wasn’t expecting much, but it made a pretty noticeable difference. The update process overall took around 30 minutes, i made some food and i was ready to dive into the update. Thankfully, everything went smoothly…unlike some other recent updates I’ve read about online where people ran into some major and pretty annoying issues. Glad I didn’t have to deal with any of that. Right away, I noticed that the bass finally blends seamlessly with the rest of the system. It felt way more natural and tight, making the experience sound more cohesive. What really amazed me was how much the surround and height effects improved. It went from “eh, sounds are just kinda around me” to “woah, wait, that sound came from there.” Watched Gravity again after the update and damn, the difference was clear. The overhead effects finally felt real, and the airlock scene felt like it was closing in and locking me off instead of just sounding like it was happening around me. I’ve also been enjoying Helldivers 2 recently and thought that this would be the perfect game to test AHD Ultra. I’ve clocked in over 120 hours in the game on Dragon before the update and it was already lit but based on what i heard w Gravity, I was excited to hear the difference. Playing the game, it was like the battlefield replaced my walls. Turrets, grenades and gunshots had a satisfying depth, and the added details made it feel like I was even more connected to the game. Being able to tell where my fellow Helldivers and enemies were with the added surround detailing brought a whole new layer of immersion to the game. Anyway, that's just my two cents as a happy Dragon owner. It was already solid, but now it feels next level. If you're interested in one, I would highly recommend.

r/Soundbars • Nakamichi Dragon update fixed crossover and boosted immersion ->
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D3capitati0n • 4 months ago

The AHD Ultra update has improved the experience of Dragon for me, which I didn’t even realize was possible short of adding more channels/speakers. I’m enjoying gaming, especially FPS and single player story driven games immensely, and swear I can hear details I didn’t catch before the update. Nakamichi should do a better job of publicizing this firmware upgrade, as it really turned the Dragon from a 9.5 to an 11 for me.

r/Soundbars • Sony Bravia Theatre Quad vs Nakamichi Dragon 11.4.6 vs Sennheiser Ambeo Max - Which is best? ->
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D_rod94 • about 1 month ago

This sub has a weird obsession of the Q990x series…I tried both in my room, few weeks apart before getting a Nakamichi Dragon, and the JBL Mk2 was better overall for me than the 990F. The 12” subwoofer helps a ton, the Atmos was *slightly* better in some instances with the q990; but overall, I appreciated and liked the Mk2 much more. Being able to place the surrounds wherever I wanted was huge, and I liked the JBL app more too. The room correction and calibration it does is pretty good as well, biggest thing with all of them is providing the correct input so they can give you the correct output. Playing music through my Samsung tv via iPhone vs playing through Apple TV 4K was completely different. If you want to spend some coin and get something that will really blow you away, check out the Dragon. The price/performance ratio isn’t the greatest, but it’s the closest thing I could find that could match my old actual home theater 7.2.2 setup short of the sub stage. I went with the one that came with the quad 8’s, and have modified it a ton lol basically just using the 8’s amps for inputs to a Crown XLS2502 that’s driving the 8’s for 200hz-80hz, and using dual 600w Monoprice 15’s modified to have a 15” passive radiator instead of their port for 70hz and down. Sub stage ran through an Anti-Mode 2.0 for full room correction and EQ. I like to tinker with stuff too much and it’s definitely not healthy. Don’t go down this path, nothing is ever sufficient 🤦🏻‍♂️😂

r/Soundbars • Comparison Fight JBL bar 1300mk2 vs Samsung Q990F. ->

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