
Samsung
Q990F
Value for movies and easy setup, but music falls flat.

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The Nakamichi Shockwafe wireless 11.2.6 (2025).. it will fill that place up like a charm. I Was riding with Samsung for the past 2 years Q990D then Q990F and when I sent my Q990F subwoofer for repair they also asked me to send the soundbar to techeim in New Jersey. When I got the Soundbar and subwoofer back the Soundbar was Banged up and bent. Call Samsung and instead of getting a Refurbished soundbar or a Replacement they instead went with a refund. Decided I was done with them and Venture into Nakamichi.
Take a look at Shockwafe Wireless system's 31 high-performance drivers. I've had mine for a week and it's awesome. It's also on sale for $800 off bringing it down to 1700. You get a lot of performance for that 1700. It's the dragons little brother. https://www.nakamichi-usa.com/shockwafe-wireless
If you're looking for power and Great sound I just got SHOCKWAFE WIRELESS soundbar 11.2.6. the volume goes to 100 but I haven't been able to get it past 20. It has 2,300 Watts 31 speakers two of which are 10 inch subwoofers and they're on sale for 1700 usually they're 2400. It's the dragons little brother.
I just got a JBL 1300x (MK1) and wasn’t impressed with it to be honest. The bar itself has no depth which means the crossover for the sub is high to address that; but I’m also picky with audio. I’ve noticed when the surrounds are plugged in to the bar, when playing music, no speakers on the bar produce sound, only the surrounds. Everything works when they’re unplugged of course. The bass is pretty dang good, just wish the EQ on the app would let you adjust stuff under 125hz, to help with that high crossover point. Honestly I don’t like the 1300x MK1 for music at ALL. Decent for movies however. If you’re paying ~1600 for the MK2, I’d check [this](https://store.nakamichi-usa.com/products/shockwafe-wireless-11-2-6) out. I’m returning my 1300x and picked up their Dragon setup. The dual 10” sub in the Shockwafe should provide more and better coverage for bass too.
I absolutely love them. I demoed a Nakamichi Dragon and a full Sonos Arc Ultra with era300s and 2 gen 4 subs and out of the 3 I kept the Quads but I did buy the Arc Ultra for the family room which requires 2 subs. Sony just made a new sub and like all soundbar subs it’s expensive at $899 and I preordered it and if it’s not a big improvement then back it goes. The sw5 is average and decent if you really tinker and due the sub crawl. If I had to pick a nakamichi, I’d definitely go with the newer Shockwafe 11.2.6 which was $1599 at one point. I’m just not a fan of their quality. Also, with upfiring speakers you really need close to the perfect room with a 10’ ceiling and walls almost like a square-rectangle and that’s my bedroom at 8’ ceilings and around 14’ by 14’. The problem is that I got mine when it went on a rare sale at $1999 and the sw5 at $499. Now it’s over 3k so it depends on your budget. I wouldn’t recommend it if it’s gonna be used in a large room.
The difference between these in your house with high ceilings means you won’t get any real atmos effects regardless of what anyone says. The Sammy is always on sale and sometimes as low as $7-$800, while the Nak is $1900. You’ll get better bass with the Shockwafe, and with a big open space I begrudgingly suggest the Nakamichi due to it having more power and thus filling up the space more efficiently. While i almost always recommend the Samsung in most situations, this is one of the rare occasions where I will not. I know you didn’t ask about the Nak Dragon, and I’m glad because it requires 2 of their $1299 subs to make it work correctly in a big open space, and cost over $4k. Good luck and remember that you can always return it if it’s not to your liking.
Even at moderate volumes, in a space like yours, with only one sub, you will benefit greatly from the 2 subs regardless of your volume level. It’s just going to make your experience fuller at any volume, plus the surrounds on the Nakamichi are very vibrant and powerful, and cover a good amount of space. Some People have to turn them down a bit which is extremely rare with soundbar systems, but that’s not a bad thing. Although I’m sure you would still be happy with the Samsung, I think the Nak will be your best option, or if you don’t mind returning anything, you should do what I do and that’s buy both and return the Nak if the Samsung works for you, or just try the Samsung first, without buying both and see if it works well, which it just might. If you don’t like that kind of hassle then get the Shockwafe. Either way, I hope you and your family enjoy whichever you get. Good luck
I demoed the dragon about a year ago when it was still $4k and it was just a mess with the soundbar not capable of bass below 150hz which is laughable and those 2 8” subs had to pick up all the bass from there and it caused constant bottoming out and chuffing. It’s loud, but it needs the 12” subs desperately. Have you ever tried it in your home to really test it? The whole Nakamichi crowd was just furious with their constant noise from bottoming out and they complained about it and Nak made the 12” sub for $1300. It’s now at a much better price but those who bought 2 subs back then paid over $6k which is crazy and although the 12s are decent, they don’t come close to reaching Naks spec of 19hz. I think NET on YT measured 28hz before they rolled off a cliff. I would recommend the Shockwafe with 2 10” subs at $1800 over the dragon at $2600 with those dreadful 8” subs.
Nakamichi Shockwafe is no big deal. Tried it like I tried the dragon over a year ago and it just doesn’t seem right for 2 10” subs to have average bass and my Quads Atmos is leagues ahead. I guess it’s okay for the price but I’d rather pay more and be happy with the quality than save and be disappointed. My Arc Ultra era300s and 2 subs was expensive but it does everything so well. It’s your money, you should try several different brands til you find the one that you love. After all that the Ambeo max with a svs pb 2000 pro or 1000 pro. But obviously wait until prices plummet
I agree that soundbar’s struggle with music and that’s why I had to get a pair of klipsch nines and an RSL sub. Music is totally new again on this beast, while listening to music on my Quads or Arc Ultra which does very well with movies, is just noise. If people have never heard music before on a 2.1, they might love music on their soundbars, but once you have, it’s in a different class.
Nakamichi is so overrated it’s not even funny. Can it get loud? Yes Did Nakamichi totally lie about many specs? Absolutely Is it worth $4k for all those poor souls who had to add another $1200-2000 for 1 or 2 of the new subs Nakamichi made due to the outcry from fans who were totally unaware of how bad the supposed 4 subs (actually 2) were? Big time. I would never give a company that blatantly lied many times a nickel, but if you’re set on Nakamichi’s options, save yourself money and get the Shockwafe which equals or betters the dragon and is usually $600-$800 cheaper
It’s not better than the Sony Quads (IMO) and you absolutely need the 12” sub as those 2 8” subs are laughable. The price is lower and I’d still recommend the Quads or the newer Shockwafe as I demoed the dragon when it was $4k and it was loud, brash, with subs that had to pick up all the bass as the bar literally dropped off at 160hz and thus the subs would constantly bottom out. It depends on how many different systems you’ve had before as a newbie would probably love it. But the Samsung is still the best option and even tho I’m tired of hearing about it, it’s the best value and sound combination.
Sony Quads with 2 of the new subs coming out any day. The Sa-sw9 sub I believe can be used with 2 subs, but not 100% sure. I have the quads and Sonos but I’ve never been a sw5 sub fan. The new sub is $899 so it’s expensive but I’ve never heard anything better and I demoed the Dragon and it’s Atmos was nonexistent, the bass would bottom out and this was when it was $4k. The Shockwafe is definitely a better choice than the dragon but I’m still not a big fan of their sound or quality.
Real nakamichi > nakamichi sold at Sears and Walmart.
My Shockwafe 11.2.6 just showed up! I personally don't trust most of the reviewers on YouTube, but there are 2 that I DO trust... Neverenoughtech, and Caleb at Digital Trends. I bought mine based on their reviews. This is replacing my Samsung Q990c, which I just couldn't love....my biggest bitch with it was the lack of bass, unless I really pushed the volume. I think the 990 bars are the most over-hyped pos of all the bars out there. BUT, I have high hopes for my Nakamichi...I'll give you my thoughts once I get it set up. https://preview.redd.it/oxh01jjikbyg1.jpeg?width=2304&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=456783fbc8f1a456d6620d1b2fe5330e567d7e0b
Just my opinion, but as a Samsung 990 owner, I'd say avoid Samsung....way over rated, and if you want bass, they SUCK until you get into uncomfortable listening levels. I know this will piss off the Samsung groupies, but that's my opinion. I dumped mine for the Nakamichi shockwafe 11.2.6....unbelievable difference. You'll hear things coming from everywhere, and excellent bass with the dual subwoofers. It also does a great job with music...not quite as good as the Sonos, but once you get it tuned, it's pretty close. Right now you can find open box on Nakamichi s eBay store for $1500....a steal! Sonos is a great product, but by the time you add all the extras the price really gets up there. Anyway, just my thoughts....good luck with whatever you end up with...let us know what you decided on. https://preview.redd.it/7cnhm4hp7fyg1.jpeg?width=2304&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=baf578a7021bedb99cc90af43931e1a2c5aef8dd
Nakamichi, PERIOD! I have a 990c in my living room, and just got my Nakamichi 11.2.6 last week, setup in a medium size room. Yes, you'll spend some time adjusting the Nakamichi in order to get it just right, but it will ABSOLUTELY be worth it. I actually use mine more for music than movies. I've read some people's comments that the Nakamichi isn't very good for music, to that I say bullshit! If you take the time to tune the system, this thing is incredible for music playback...way better than the Samsung. I almost got the Dragon, but the 11.2.6 actually has better specs and hardware. SO, without question, get the Nakamichi and never look back.
By far one of the BEST sound bars is the Nakamichi Shockwafe 11.2.6.... it can be had for $15-1800 on their eBay store. I'd even say it's better than the Dragon, and absolutely destroys ANYTHING Samsung has to offer. If people want to disagree that's fine, but unless you have actually heard it, your opinion is useless. I've had dedicated separates, as well as higher end bar systems, I currently have a Nakamichi shockwafe wireless, and a Samsung Q990d..the Samsung is the most over-hyped pos I've ever wasted my money on, while the Nakamichi is by far the best bar system I've ever owned. ..

Samsung
Q990F
Value for movies and easy setup, but music falls flat.

Sonos
Beam (Gen 2)
Compact value, but virtual Atmos and app issues.

Samsung
HW-Q990D
Powerful, immersive value, but poor music and buggy software.

Sonos
Arc Ultra
Immersive Atmos and bass, but pricey and poor for music.

Samsung
Q930F
Strong value for movies, but music and HDMI 2.0 limit.

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