Cascadia Elite

Of course. Happy to help.  I got hooked up as a tester for the shoe way back. The 2 is a better shoe. The 1 was flat. I just picked up the Cascadia Elite but haven’t tried it yet. I think that could be a good shoe to try for you over the adidas.  Feedback so far from others is good. Try the prodigo pro too. It’s a great shoe. I also run in the Zegama, which is very cushioned. It’s a little over engineered and heavy, but I think it works well.  Honestly, pick one, go full send, and don’t overthink it. You can have a back up shoe to quiet the mind, but I don’t think you’ll need it. 

Both Speedgoat and H1 might feel a bit faster on technical terrain, and if you run shorter distances (anything sub ultra) they might suite you better. However for long outings I much prefer the Zegama 2 to the speedgoat and the H1 (even returned my H1's after just trying them on). If I want fast I look towards Hoka Tecton, Kipsummit Race, Prodigio Pro, Cascadia Elite

6'4 230lbs Slow shuffler 1:05hr 10k 9:30hr trail 50k Fit Usually run in Brooks 10.5 ordered the same. Fit TTS I have a wider forefoot and they have good room there. Upper Every running shoe should have these laces. Material is light and drains crazy well. Was running in slush/snow/puddles and they drained super quick. I'm nervous about the heel. On flat shoes felt awesome. Found a small hill and went up and down a couple times and could feel how stiff the heel counter was... Didn't blister but could feel it. I've gotten hot spots in Brooks heels before and they have been on. Hopefully these break in. Midsole Shuffled around at 6min km to 7min kms on icy/slushy roads park trail. Foam felt similiar to my Zegama 2s they have some squish but don't feel unstable. There's a plate in there somewhere but feels like it's there for stability. The platform is really wide and stable. Felt like I could cruise in these and monster truck through rocks all day...if the heel works for me (need one longer runs to see) I've been doing my long road runs in the superblasts 3 and they definitely have more bounce but they have a simpler level of stability cruisers to the cascadia elites Outsole The lugs don't feel clunky or super aggressive. Could run comfortably on the dry patches of sidewalk, snow, slush I came across. To be determined Hopefully the heel works out because I could see myself running in my spring trail marathon in these..super comfy, dry quick, and feel great for cruising in

I wish the Brooks had the Zegama heel cup/padding b/c it really works for me. Also the Brooks upper material is way better it drains quick and I imagine it'll breath really well Underfoot the Brooks has more squish but isn't mushy. I would take the Brooks foam over the Zegama.

Have worn Brooks road shoes glycerins mostly. Been running in the superblast 3s and have been loving them on the roads Trail shoe I've run the most in is the Zegama 2s. Have gone through 4 pairs Cascadia elites are very stable. You can tell there's a plate thing in the heel it keeps the shoe stable and encourages you into your mid foot/forefoot. Forefoot is flexible and feels good.

Pretty cool to see. It might be good to separate series’ though (even though I understand why it’s done). Speedgoat seems to vary a lot year to year, the Prodigio Pro isn’t at all like the rest of the series and same for the Cascadia Elite.

Probably a combination of things. The x3 was my first pair and probably the most comfy step in feel I ever had, and it felt like the whole shoe just hugged my foot; side note that the x3 shreds the back of my ankle past 10km if I don’t wear a padded bandaid. Not long before getting the x3, I remember jumping over a log landing in some loose dirt and moss, and it all just fell into my shoe (I think that was the speedgoat 5). So, the added protection from that happening again is appreciated. And all three gaiter shoes I have are generally very well reviewed. I have similar climate and terrain to the PNW. If you’ve never had to stop to get something out of your shoe (or at least would’ve benefited from that even if you pushed on) then you likely don’t need a gaiter. I remember Dave Roche laughing at the gaiter on the x3 thinking it was stupid because he’s never once had that be an issue. Id also add that not all gaiters are equal. The cascadia elite is the worst of the three that I have. it isn’t snug enough so there’s a small gap by my side ankle bone; some people complained about gaiters being difficult to put on (I’ve never had that issue) so maybe this was Brooks’ solution for that.

There are many factors to consider. Have you run in carbon plated shoes before - either road or trail? Have you run in a trail "super shoe" or something along those lines? What are you currently running in, and are you looking for something close to or different from that? One thing I'll say is that the ASU is an advanced level shoe - I would not recommend that one as an entry point into trail "super shoes". It might be best to look for something that blends more cushion/protection/propulsion such as the On Cloudultra Pro, Tecton X 3, or Brooks Cascadia Elite. Not to self promote here, but I have videos on all of these shoes on my channel. Perhaps have a look and that might help you narrow your selection. I do try to respond to all comments, so don't be shy about firing questions my way.

I bought half size up and it fit perfectly. All my shoes are size 40.5 and I bought size 41 in these.

I just bought a pair of these - waiting for delivery. I'm also around 225lbs and have trouble between highly cushioned shoes and them being soft/unstable. Have you ran in other "high end" shoes like prodigio pro or prodigio max? Tecton 3? Or Ultrafly Trail? Any other comparisons here - as I've tried a few of those to only modest success... What other past Brooks have you run in - what did you like about those vs. the new cascadio elite? I started upping my distances years ago, but didn't really get into trail shoes until I got a pair of Brooks Catamount 1's... I really liked the combination of fit, stability, speed, and ground feel. They changed the fit in the Catamount 2 and 3 and I never got along with them. I stocked up and bough 3 additional pairs of the 1st version and am wearing my last pair out now. I've tried Norda 001/002 to no success. I have a pair of Nnormal Tomir02, and they are too narrow in the toebox, but I like the midsole. I have a Nike Ultrafly Trail, but use those for road to light trail only - not stable enough. Hoka Speedgoats are the most unstable shoe I've ever worn. Regular cascadias are fine, but clunkier than my preference. I'm really hoping these bridge the highly cushioned, stable, with good fit gap that I'm looking for as a Catamount 1 replacement. Doing the TMB in Aug - 5 days on trail, hoping these will work for that.

Right! For a lower stack shoe, I never had sore feet after long efforts - just the right amount of foam and the "plate" offered great protection, while still being lively, stable, comfortable, and fast. It was a great shoe. I could do everything from road, to flowy trails, to super rocky technical traverses, never a problem. I have a feeling the current Catamounts would still check the boxes if Brooks hadn't messed up the fit by making it way narrower. I never understand that - if you take a product and make it narrower, then also offer it as a "wide" using the same last as the previous iteration - you've already got the tooling... Brooks - if you're listening, offer the Catamount in a Wide, please!

Here is my impression of the Cascadia Elite after a couple of short runs to break them in (total of about 15 miles) - if anyone was looking for more information. Fit - my foot is wider and I have a high arch and instep, especially on my right foot. I normally wear an 11.5 in most brands. I ordered both 11.5 and 12, and chose to keep the 12. It was the right decision for sure. The sockliner offers a very comfortable/snug feel - that I appreciate very much. I feel that the shoe offers a wide enough fit in the toebox, but narrow enough in the heel to get good hold while not feeling constricting. The extra length of a half size up is great without being too big. I did add a Superfeet insole (which I do with all my shoes). The only pain point I had was with the lace retention strap over the instep, it felt too tight and was causing some pain over my bone/veins in that area. I cut that elastic piece out as I don't typically need/use the lace hold-down. Haven't had a fit problem since. I'm liking the comfort of the upper very much. The Upper does seem to breath very well. I run hot, but normally do not overheat in hot conditions, or get cold feet running even in wet/snowy conditions. In this shoe, I did feel water/cold easily get in and out when running through a few puddles/snowfields. I think I am going to give them an A from the standpoint that I could feel the coolness, and with most running being done in dry/arid environments, am happy that these seem to dry/vent well. Midsole running impressions - It is fairly bouncy/squishy under my weight (225ish), more so in the heel. AND it feels like the drop is more than the advertised 6mm (IMO). This combo feels more squirrelly than expected and very different from what I am used to, which is again, admittedly, something I'm not super familiar with - going to a high stack shoe (my preference to date has been the lower stack Catamount 1). That said, it is more stable than any of the other high stack shoes I have tried on, or purchased in the past. I think I will get used to it the more I run in it, and my hope is that the footbed beds down and the foam packs down in the heel. With stability being very important to me, I'm hoping this area improves, but isn't a deal breaker as I'll really be using this shoe for more long non-technical on-trail efforts (TMB) vs. other off-trail, technical efforts. The wide sole and base I think contributes to stability nicely and if you weigh less (say, sub 200), I don't think you will feel the foam instability at all. The underfoot feel is very soft/comfortable, yet neutral. I didn't notice individual rocks/roots poking through uncomfortably, nor did I feel they were particularly vague. I think they will do great on most trails. I have enjoyed shoes in the past with a full "rock plate" or "propulsion plate" to protect from rocks, but those were always with lower stack/less foam, so that combo worked. With more foam underfoot on the CE's, I don't think a full plate is really needed, but the U-shaped plate definitely adds some stiffness. That stiffness I think helps with forward propulsion and some stability. Without it, it would probably be even more squirrelly from side to side. I'm glad it has that plate and also feel like it does offer some forward push. I was running through mixed conditions which should have made my pace a bit slower than expected, but was keeping in the pace range that I normally would have on dry trail conditions. Cannot say for sure if the shoe played into that, or fitness, or just the day... but worth noting as I was running in my normal zones and would have expected slower times through snow/mud. The last thing about feel is that they don't feel particular quick/agile - again I think this has to do with my weight, as each step I take compresses the foam quite a bit and then has to rebound before lifting off - this extra movement just makes them feel a little less nimble than something with a lower stack. Grip - I ran through grass, slick mud, hardpack gravel, and even snow. The take away is that the lug pattern and rubber held up well and I didn't feel like the grip was lacking except when side-hilling a snowfield, but that would have been the case with any shoe... perhaps less stack would have made that easier, or harder foam, but the grip is good - I am confident they will work in most all conditions. 3.5mm lugs could be 4mm-4.5mm and I don't think anyone would have batted an eye at increased weight... with the tradeoff being more grip and longevity... but that's nitpicking. Overall, I'm really happy with them as a shoe to add to the quiver. The fit and comfort alone are awesome and I can see myself using these for long runs, an upcoming TMB trip, and once they are "worn out" just as a walking shoe as they are that comfortable. I will use these sparingly though, only for those long, sustained on-trail pushes, really anything 30k+ of flowy single/double-track. Anything backcountry, traversing, bushwacking, scrambling, I'll still opt for something more stable. So, not a quiver-killer, but definitely a long race-day shoe, or long effort shoe where you want to maintain comfort and safe the legs. The foam feels very comfortable and ultimately, that's what these high stack shoes are all about - this is the best combination of comfort and stability I have found for my use case. Hope this helps - cheers!