Tecton X 3
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The front landing area is felt was already large. Noticed the issue on a few slightly rocky decents where I landed slightly awkward and yes would just roll straight out. Was enough for me to decide not for me. Stupidly quick shoe when it smoothed out though. Love my tecton X3s but the ultras were quicker on the flats and rolling stuff.
Tecton x2 is one of my favourite trail shoes. Not a soft ride and not the quickest I have used but does everything I want really well. Is hard wearing too. Personally I would say the tecton x3 is the quicker shoe. Much bouncier ride though does sacrifice some stability for it. Adidas speed ultra. You dont have issues rolling ankles? You will in these shoes. Fastest shoe ive tried on open fire trail but you hit the slightest bump wrong and it tries to murder you. Definitely not for heel strikers. Fit didn't agree with me either so gave them away. I will echo other that the prodigio pro might just be the best all round shoe I have used on the market. Not plated but holds speed just as well and handles technical terrain with ease. Sizing can be tricky with them though Have tried the metafuji trails on and the heel felt wildly squishy and unstable. Seeing them used on trails confirmed that for me. Everyone I have seen using them collapses in badly through the heel once they get off the forefoot
Speedboat 5s are known for wearing super fast. I had 2 pairs, put about 200k into each and haven't used them in years because honestly they just feel shit. Got way more life out of mafate speed 4s, tecton x2s and X3s. Mafates i have multiple pairs over 400ks and nearly 500 on tecton x2s and they still feel great.
For me the lockdown is much better. The tecton x 3’s weak spot is there lacing and feeling harsh due to the carbon plate on technical terrain. I’ve never been a fan of On until this shoe. The lacing is solid and the nylon plate is just forgiving enough to be tolerable. There is a reason many people are still using the tecton x 2.5
I think a lot would depend on the terrain. I've used the S/Lab Genesis and mostly liked it, but at the end of my last 100k, over very rocky terrain, my feet got really beaten up, and I think I would have preferred something plated like the Hoka Tecton X3, which I love (and have used as my one travel shoe for roads and trails). If that's not a concern, what about either the Norda 001 or 005?
I'm 100kgs and I normally split my running between the Norda 005, Salomon S/Lab Genesis, Hoka Tecton X3 and Nnormal Tomir 2. I don't tend to train in the X3, but I think I will use them for my upcoming 100km races next year. I haven't had durability issues with any of these shoes.
1- Hoka Tecton X3 Amorti légendaire, sensation de rebond sur le plat, stable, accroche tres bonne, gaitre trop pratique dans les terrains pleins de graviers. 2-Salomon S/lab Genesis: la chaussure de trail la plus polyvalente, ça fait 3 ans qu'elle est sortie et au départ de tous les trails de 40k + la moitié des coureurs la porte, légère, accroche, tient bien dans le temps, très comfortable. 3-Salomon Ultra glide 3: des chaussons avec des crampons.
Prodigio Pro is probably my favourite shoe of all time for trail racing. Only in specific conditions am I grabbing my Tecton X3's if I want the integrated gaiter.
When I "technical trail" I winder what people mean because where I am at we have some black diamond shit. Wet, mossy rocks, mud, roots, more rocks and scree... we have everything except dry trails for 300+ days a year to put it into perspective. With that said I run in the following, ranked from most used to least... 1. Speedland GS GAR with some spikes added (3 on toe area and two all the way at the back) for a liiiitle extra grip on wet roots or rocks. I love these shoes for the wet, long run days. I leave the carbon plate out of these. 2. Speedland GL PDX: tempo/threshhold/ 5k, 10k even 20k but no more than that. Deeper lugs also helps when it gets really sloppy and also same spike arrangement added and I like the carbon plate in these. 3. VJ Ultra 3: Not the super deep lugs like the Inov8 shoes but amazing rubber and a really good wide toebox fit... at least by my standards. Hoka Tecton/x 3: On the dry days where the trails have had a couple days prior to really get things dry. I really love these shoes but they just don't have the traction for trails as technical as these. Hoka Zinal 2: For the short up's / hill races, hill sprints, etc. added a Sper Feet sole to these to add a little stiffness and protection. That's my quiver and my recommendations :) at least for trails...
Try a pair of Tecton X3's if you are a Speedgoat-fan. Carbon-plated supershoes made for 100 milers.
\^\^\^ agreed on both the Tecton X2 and X3. Great combo of propulsion and ground feel, which usually don't go together. In super technical terrain I'd steer clear of all the carbon(ish) shoes, but these are as good as they come.
I love the Tecton X3s and like others said if it’s working for you then maybe don’t mess with it. That said, $275/pair adds up quickly when you’re doing a lot of miles. For gravel / fire roads I usually run in Nike Ultraflys which have a plate and more or less the same foam, but go on sale for $160. I also do a lot of miles in whatever Tecton X2s I can still find for sale and actually feel more comfortable in them on single track.
Hello. I come from the same issue. I had major issues with Plantar Fasciitis after running in the Speedcross and S/Lab Speed for many years. My first shoe was the Hoka Speedgoat Evo. That was an epic shoe, but sold out everywhere so quickly I only ever ran in one pair. Since then I’ve tried many similar shoes, looking for great grip, soft and bouncy ride, but good stability as I over-pronate, plus I recently developed osteoarthritisin my big toes. So, I really rate the following: - Hoka Mafate Speed 4. Good all rounder - Salomon S/lab genesis. A little narrow and unstable but speedy and shed mud quickly - La Sportiva Prodigeo Pro - great foam and good grip, lightweight. - Saucony Xodus Ultra - 1 and 3 are pretty good, ignore the 2. - Hoka Tecton X 3 - my go-to race shoe for hard packed trails and gravel I like the Speedgoat, Catamount, Fuji Lite, Ultra Glide too but they all have compromises that the shoes above don’t have in the same way.
Hoka Mafate 5 is comfy and fun. Mafate Speed 4 is still good but a little narrower and not quite so bouncy. I used to run in Speedgoats a lot but think the 5 & 6 are missing some comfort and the foam isn’t returning the energy of newer shoes. Salomon Genesis or Ultra Glide are both good if you can accommodate a narrower fit. I prefer the protection of the Genesis over the Ultra Glide. Prodigio Pro is also fun and bouncy, but much lighter, less protection around the ankle and so a bit more stripped back. Everyone I know loves them though. Hoka Tecton X 3 is a similar proposition to the Prodigio but both are spendy. Hoka is slightly more stable and bouncy but there is very little in it. If you want the best outsole rubber money can buy, look at the VJ Ultra 3. Seriously, the lugs and rubber is like glue. Finally, the Saucony Xodus Ultra is a good shoe for distances like this. It’s also comfy and protective. Just avoid the 2 or 3 and go for the latest version 4.
Already been mentioned, but the Tecton X3 is a great fast shoe. If you want a really low slung fast shoe for the fells then you can’t beat the VJ iRock or the Inov8 MudTalon either. Also, I suspect it’s contentious but I really like the Merrell Longsky Matryx
Hoka is my go-to for this sort of thing. Mafate 5 is super plush, bouncy and fun. Tecton X3 is great for gravel and works well in the technical stuff too. Anything else you look at will be heavy or narrow. I like Salomon a lot, but the S/Lab Genesis is a little too narrow for more than 25km, and the Ultra Glide doesn’t seem to have the real bounce conpared to the Hokas. Saucony Xodus Ultra is great over the distance, but I felt it was a little clunky and heavy - for some reason the Mafate felt more agile. Speaking of which - Merrell Agility Peak 5 would be a good choice. I hate to say it but I really dont rate many of the Asics trail shoes. Fuji Lite is fine for a daily but not for a race day shoe.
Trail: \- Hoka Tecton X 3 \- Salomon S/Lab Genesis CDW \- Hoka Mafate 5 \- VJ Spark (for OCRs) \- Inov8 X-Ultra for fells/mud Road: \- Hoka Skyward recovery \- Saucony Tempus 2 daily \- Hoka Mach X 2 tempo \- Hoka Cielo X 1 race