Inov8 - Trailtalon Speed

I love my Inov8 shoes, and think their new lineup is great. Anatomically shaped, regular and wide options, comfortable and stable, and there are models for all diff terrain (same rubber compound). They seem to be misunderstood, these days. The closest replacement for the Roclite 275 v2 is the Trailtalon Speed (6mm lugs, similar midsole stack, 6mm drop instead of 8mm). I’ve run multiple 100mi races in Trailfly Speed and Trailfly Zero **Roadfly** has a 0-2mm tread **Trailfly** has a 4mm tread **Trailtalon** has a 6mm tread **Mudtalon** has an 8mm tread Of those models, the variations are with drop and stack height following drop and stack (without the tread depth): **Zero** (i.e. Roadfly Zero) is zero drop, 18mm **Regular** (i.e. Mudtalon) is 6mm drop, 24/18mm **Speed** (i.e. Trailtalon Speed) is a 4mm drop, 17/13mm **Max** (i.e. Trailfly Max) is a 6mm drop, 30/24mm

I’m using inov8 Trailtalons wide aw25 Admittedly almost none of my running is on tarmac, but the small amount that is feels fine. I found them a bit stiff in the sole for the first 3 outings (9-30k) but they’ve worn in and I get a good degree of flexibility They have 6 mm lugs with a reasonable amount of surface area on each so tarmac and paving isn’t too slippery. Ive also used mudtalons (aw24). They were great for the really sloppy stuff in Feb and March but generally I think I prefer the trailtalons. Mudtalons are not as good on the road and I prefer something that’s a bit more versatile for occasions that warrant it. Good luck. Lots of great advice on this thread

I’d suggest inov8 Trailfly . I’m on my 3rd pair and I find them perfect. They recently redesigned their last placing a specific emphasis on brining in a much wider toe box. Lug dept is 4mm and offset is 6mm. Great for dry trails. If you live in an area where it gets wet and muddy in the winter then you could go for the trailtalons, basically the same shoe but with a 6mm lug - same offset. Much better in the mud. Because of the deeper lugs they take (in my experience) about 50k for the outsole to wear in, but I’m finding them great now. Good luck.

Interesting that you don’t like the trailtalons for longer distances. I’m running in a pair now. I’ve used the trialfly over 50+km but I hear you on the energy return issue. To deal with that problem earlier this year I switched to Trailfly max for a 125km in the Pyrenees, they were a disaster (I’d rather stick to the regular trailflys). That said they do a trailtalon max version and if you are one of the many who do get on with them, those might be a great option for you.

If you don't have a very wide heel/midfoot you could also try the Inov8 Trailfly or Trailton wide models. Foot shaped, wide at the front and with a durable graphene sole. Both available in zero drop versions. I went from the Lone Peaks to these models and couldn't be happier, they better hold the midfoot in place on oneven trails if you don't have a beefy midfoot.

Will second Inov-8. They changed their toe box to be more rounded and offer wider fits. You can also get most models in a ‘speed’ version which is lighter and sits lower. Not everyone is a fan but the new shape suits me better. I have the model with the large but not huge lugs (the trail talon?) and can’t complain at all.

While I like my trailtalon wide, I agree that they’re very wide even compared to Altra. I will not get the wide in the future. Upper durability hasn’t been a problem so far. The heel collar has degraded somewhat but with no impact on how it feels.

Trailtalons have 6mm lugs and still do great in mud. The boomerang footbed helps on tarmac. Still much more a mud than road shoe though.

The problem is that the precision fit isn't precise - a massive step back given their intended use. All they had to do is to take the new rubber they have and slap it on the old xtalons and mudclaws, rather than fuck around with a formula that had worked excellently for almost 2 decades.

The obvious one is that they’ve replaced their fell shoes with a trail shoe that’s good in mud. It’s super sloppy on foot, no precision, high stack and delicate so it falls apart when you bash through heather or bracken. The roclite 275 has been replaced by the trailtalon. Again, it’s much higher stack and a baggy fit. It’s just not the same shoe. I’m not the only one - I’d say at least twice a month the topic of inov8 being in the bin comes up on the club run. Far fewer seen in races these days and those that are seen are often old mudclaws or xtalons. I’d rather race in walshes than mudtalons. I’m similar on being a long time repeat customer of theirs.. I’ve probably worn 8-10 pairs each of 212s and mudclaws down to slick. I can’t see myself buying another shoe of theirs unless something drastically changes. If they are forged in the fells (as they like to emphasise), they currently reside in Regents Park.

Hiya, (this is my 1st Reddit comment ever, and I'm talking running shoes, what's wrong with me!). Been a very good client of Inov8's for years (Mudtalons, Traiflys 270 1 and 2, Roclites 290, 275 1 and 2, 280 Ultra...), I'm also concerned. My favourite overall for my terrain (Irish hills and mountains) is the Roclite 275, I've bought the Trailtalons (standard), and find them terrible, heavy, tall, unstable. I was thinking giving a chance to the Trailtalon Speed, but have you tried it? How do they compare to the Roclites? Thanks!

I love Inov-8 the Trail Talons are great.

I started noticing this a couple years ago and planned accordingly. For me I have huge feet and it's hard to find good shoes. For those in my situation and like a low drop and low rise, look into Inov-8. I've only bought these shoes since early '23 and I hope they never change.

Long reply here but I understand this quite niche problem all too well. I have a bunion in the same place on left foot but actually have skinny midfoot so always struggle to get a lockdown in 'wide' shoes. The Inov8 Trailfly and their new range works well here. I'd actually go for the standard fit over wide as the toe box is already foot shaped. The width I think is in the midfoot. For example, I have a pair of precision fit Mudtalons and get a super snug midfoot lockdown but the toebox still lets my foot spread. The problem you actually have is that a lot of 'wide toe box' shoes still carry that super straight line on the inside of the foot which obviously doesn't work. Even the Prodigio Pro mentioned is quite accommodating but suffers from this to a degree as the bunion pushes the mesh out and can become uncomfortable by forcing your foot or all toes away to the side. Salomon shoes are quite bad for this, even though I suck it up and wear them as the midfoot just suits my feet. The Trailfy is the comfiest shoe I've worn in years, and I've even cleaned mine up and now wear them for walking around daily and the gym. They do a Trailtalon too if you need more softground grip, plus a road shoe. Edit to add: if anything like me, mine is just on the one foot so if I buy wide shoes, the other is super sloppy. This is why a better shape toe box works better than a wide fitting shoe in my opinion.

I used inov8 trail talon on my muddy 200

I've previously had Roclite 290s, and wanted another pair but they have been discontinued, I emailed them and they said the closest thing they did now was the TrailTalon - this has a much thicker sole and more drop, (and are twice the price I paid for my Roclites) but I bought them and I'm pretty happy with them, my only real complaint is the heel part of the shoe isn't tall enough, so it feels like I may lose a shoe in a bog (but haven't yet!) I've done just over 100 miles in them, so can't comment on durability yet...