Vapor Glove 6

I've started off with the 6's. Great show wear it daily and run with it, but similarly looking to make the altar shift for a little more comfort / support.... Recurring bursitis is not fun

I have pretty large haglund's both heels, and have had luck trying shoes with a flexible and also what I would describe as a 'bulbous' heel (which essentially contacts heel just above my haglund's) For (lighter) trails: Craft Nordlite Ultra Easy runs: Mizuno Neo Zen Minimalist: Merrell Vapor Glove 6 (not tried other versions) I'm still trying to find a more substantial trail shoe for winter though - saved this thread to see future recommendations 🤞

Personally I disagree. I have the vapor gloves and they’re the most airy shoes I own.

Merrell Vapor Glove 6 is my personal favorite. They’re very breathable on top imo

Looking at the Xero "Scrambler" shoe that boasts the Michelin sole it seems like it just has tiny nubs that don't look like would add much grip. I never tried them - hard to do since you can't wear them outside if you want to return them, unless you can claim they are defective. However compared to the grip pattern of "approach" shoes that other scramblers wear they look very different. The most grippy Xeros I have are 360s which are designed for gym cross training. I find them great of scrambling on rock that isn't completely smooth. They aren't good when rock is wet though. I was running in my 360s but switched to HFS2s so maybe when my 360s wear out (it'll be a long time probably) I'll try the Xero Scramblers - assuming they haven't bought something else out. I recently picked up some Merrell Vapor Glove 6 and Wrapt shoes. Both seem very grippy on smooth tile floors but I have not had a chance to try them on rock yet. The latter have deeper tread pattern and the new "Quantum" sole and the shoes are a lot more beefy in the uppers but they also have some kind of arch support which means most people would not agree with Merrell's use of the name "barefoot" to describe them. Since I'm only going to be using them from scrambling which is just a couple of miles distance at a time I can deal with that,we'll see.

I had the og (1st gen) Trail Gloves and then Vapor Glove 4 and 6s. I've liked them all. Not the newer ones so much. My main comment on the HFS II so far is that the foot volume seems lower than anything else I've bought so far. They aren't as low as Vivos, but definitely lower than eg. Xero Scrambler or indeed the Merrell Vapor Glove 6s. They do seem well made, and I'm glad to hear they're holding up at the 200 mile mark. Here's to another 200!

I had the og (1st gen) Trail Gloves and then Vapor Glove 4 and 6s. I've liked them all. Not the newer ones so much. My main comment on the HFS II so far is that the foot volume seems lower than anything else I've bought so far. They aren't as low as Vivos, but definitely lower than eg. Xero Scrambler or indeed the Merrell Vapor Glove 6s. They do seem well made, and I'm glad to hear they're holding up at the 200 mile mark. Here's to another 200!

Shoutout to the King Mt2 from Altra. Feels like old school Altra. I think it's meant to be a Munro shoe but I've found it does really well on rock. The velcro strap also means switching between looser fit for plodding miles and tighter fit for responsive scrambling is super handy  That said I do most of my scrambling in merrell vapour gloves so maybe I just have low standards 

Merell Vapor Glove for ever. (Always the "last year" model, to keep it cheap, they also became my "casual" shoes.)