Nike - Pegasus Trail 4 GTX

For dirt roads I picked up some Nike Ultrafly. Retired a pair at 615 miles and am about 400 miles into a second pair. Tried a pair of Nike peg trail 4’s in between, but they were a let down after the ultraflys. Most of my real running is on steep, rocky trails in the mountains, though, where I switch between Arcteryx Norvan SL3 for really fast efforts and VJ Maxx2 as my all arounder. Love both of these shoes. Edit: rocky trails in the mountains, not “Rocky Mountain” trails.

VJ Maxx2 for all around trail running Arcteryx Norvan SL3 for short fast steep rocky climbs Nike Pegasus Trail 4 (just replaced Ultrafly) for fire roads, gravel roads and any paved road running I might do. VJ Bold Race (carbide studs) for snow & icy trails. I run primarily on hills and mountains in New England. Usually getting over 1000’ of elevation gain every day on rocky technical trails. I do my recovery runs on fire roads where I still rack up similar elevation, just with less intensity

What's your usual sizing in other Nikes? Surprised you had to go up a full size. I went up 0.5 in the Peg Trail 4 GTX

Anyone have experience to share with the Salomon S/Lab Genesis? Thinking of getting these for my first 50k later this year since I do better with the 6-8mm drop range Currently have all of Salomon Thundercross and Ultra Glide, Nike Pegasus Trail 5, Altra Lone Peak 8, and Nike Pegasus Trail 4 GTX (my go to during this snowy training period)

The only think I disliked about the PT4 was the durability. The outsole lasted only one winter of light running and walking the dog. Also I had the GTX version and I have high arches so the integrated tongue was quite tight for the first 5 minutes but it never caused any issues and I’d forget about pretty quickly

Yep. My Trail 4 is my everything shoe.

I absolutely love my pegasus trail 4 gore tex for both running and walking. Such incredibly comfortable shoes. Unfortunately had a lace eyelet break on my running pair when lacing up tight, which is apparently a common issue but got it replaced under warranty. So I’ve owned 4 pairs total, keeping a spare in the cupboard, and wholeheartedly recommend them. I have slightly wide feet and they’re perfect for me.

I’ve been running in the Pegasus Trail 4GTX (cause it’s been rainy as hell this season) and I’m absolutely loving them on the road and on the trails. 

Yeah, I got the Nike Pegasus Trail 4s w GoreTex. I’ve only had to use them twice, but they have kept my feet relatively warm. I wouldn’t use them for super long distances, and I like the cortex even though I know a lot of people don’t. Sometimes I think we all have different ideas of what it means to be winter running, and us up here in Wisconsin and Minnesota have a different understanding of cold. There’s no way I would be able to use my regular running shoes with screws or nanospikes, no matter what socks I was wearing.

I just got a pair of Pegasus Trail 4s for £60 and have been really pleased with them.

I wore the trail 4 for the ingles and loved them. Will wear them again for the Portuguese in October :) light and comfy

Nike Pegasus 39 for road. Nike Pegasus trail 4 and Asics Trabuco 10 for trail when its dry, otherwise some gtx Salomons for wet. Just ordered Nike InfinityRN gtx for rainy road season.

I've been using Pegasus Trail 4's as my 1 vacation shoe that can handle all day use + trail runs + non technical hikes. Do you think this would fill a similar category?

I run about 2-3k on road to get to nearest (light but muddy) trails and the Nike Pegasus Trail 4 Gore-tex has been perfect for this, and winter road runs. The gore-tex is brilliant when you know there’ll be some unavoidable puddles and wet grass on route. It’s also a satisfying good-looking shoe, and I often wear for rainy / muddy walks rather than walking boots. Have done 200k+ in mine including a 22k run during last year’s marathon training. Heard v5 is even better.

I’d love to know how these compare to Peg Trail 4s, which in my opinion are some of the best hybrid shoes ever made. Seems like the new ones are softer and lost some bounce. Good review!

The 4's had a thinner bottom cushion than the 5 (and the prior 3s), I think you might like the 5's more.

Came here to also say peg trail. My fav casual wear shoe the last few years was the peg trail 4 gtx. Could do all weather, didn’t find them overly hot in the summer, they just looked good and were comfortable. Plus can always find them cheap

For me in wet terrain with rocks, the best is Asicsgrip (6). After that, probably Vibram (tried in Hoka and Nike shoes), Contagrip in Salomon Speedcross 4 and Continental in various Adidas models. Here, some variation between them (for example, Continental in Adidas Terrex Two Flow is better than in Adidas Terrex Agravic Flow 2.0 (so a 4 for them). After those, probably the outsole by La Sportiva (in Jackal model) and various Nike outsoles (Kiger 8, Wildhorse 6, Pegasus 4 TR) in wet terrain (btw, in mid Spring to mid Autumn, Nike are pretty nice shoes here)

The Pegasus Trail line is great for this very thing, I bought the PT4 GTX before a trip to Italy last year when it was forecasted to rain a lot and I only wanted to bring one pair of sneakers. They were perfect for the airport, walking all over the cities and running on country dirt roads in Tuscany. Plus it did rain a ton and the GTX performed great. The outsole is nice and grippy, not up to snuff for technical trails, but as a hybrid I had no complaints. The React foam is very comfy, but on any run longer than 7-8 miles they would feel a little dead on my feet. Not a big deal since I didn’t want them for long runs anyway. They’ve since been relegated to just a walking around shoe, but I’d get another pair.

I love these compared to the Peg Trail 4s!

Nike Pegasus Trail 4 was one of my favourite door to trail shoes. I wore it pretty much for every terrain.

Have you considered Pegasus Trail? I've used Pegasus Trail 4 for a long time and they're really good road to trail shoe. NOT for wet surfaces though. What about Ultrafly? They're pretty fast but do break a bank.

I do trail runs maybe once every 2-3 weeks, but my Pegasus Trail 4 GTX have been holding up great. They are also my go to for winter snowy/slushy/icy conditions,

I have a pair of the Trail 4s that I got for like $60. It's a very solid shoe. You don't feel the lugs while running on roads, yet they're grippy on the dirt. It's not going to outperform a dedicated trainer on the road, or a proper trail shoe on dirt, but I think it works good enough for both and makes for a great travel shoe.

the pegasus trail 4 - jack of all trades, master of all

A bit late to this party, but if you haven't tried any of the recent Nike trail lineup, it's worth trying some on. Like you, Nike running shoes never fit me properly, but I was browsing the clearance section of my local REI about a year ago and they had some Pegasus Trail 4 shoes there. I tried on a pair on a whim, and they have been the most comfortable running shoes I've ever owned. The last for their recent generation trail shoes seems completely different than their road shoes, and the toe boxes are dramatically wider. Also, I thought the flywire lacing system was a gimmick, but it does seem to really snug the upper down more uniformly and securely than the laces alone. Might be worth trying a pair if you've been steering clear of Nikes for a while (like me).

I run for health in Asics Gel Nimbus... Was heavy when I started, and these have a lot of cushion. 1st pair of shoes for trail running and hiking was Asics Trabuco Max 2... Felt great for both activities... I started to feel insecure reading Reddit, so I bought some Hokas (speed goat 5 gtx), Salomons (ultra glide 2), and Saucony... These were not as comfortable for me. Fussing around with insoles and inserts has made them workable, but not better. I think I'm just a heel-striker that feels better in Asics (Trabuco Max 2), Nike (pegasus trail 4), or maybe some Brooks. If Nikes feel better then Hokas, wear the Nikes. I rotate my Peg Trail 4 GTXs with my Trabuco Max 2s depending on the weather

Nike Pegasus Trail 4s. Great grip and they feel good!

Nike Pegasus 4 Goretex. Its snowy and wet here so got to keep my toes a little dryer.

I had the Trail 4 Gore-tex version that I brought to Japan and thought it would be my "do it all" shoe. However, nothing prepared me for all the walking I had to do there. I'm a small female of around 125 lbs and these killed my feet. I actually think they were too squishy. My right heel creased on the side due to the constant compression. I ended up tearing a hole on the bottom when I slipped walking across some sharp volcanic rock. Thankfully, the place I bought them from gave me a refund. It's too bad because I liked them, but didn't think they were great for walking for miles at a time.

Pegasus Trail 4 Gore-Tex (so can stand in puddles in them). Used them for last few years in UK, Ireland, France, including climbing Carrauntoohill in Killarney. On sale at Sports Direct if you don’t care about the colour and they have your size. Useful ankle sleeve to keep out gravel.

I've had a pair of the Nike Pegasus trail 4 with gortex and really like them.

I have the GTX peg 4’s, before that the regular Peg Trail 3. The React foam was such an upgrade with the GTX 4’s, that I immediately got the Peg Trail 5 now that they have React as well. Ran a Rocky, muddy half last weekend and pretty much same experience as OP. Pretty great shoe overall, not a lot of complaints especially since I got my pair for less than $100

I absolutely love my pair of Brooks Ghost for running in town and even just daily wear sneakers, but the Cascadia just had a weird fit that wasn’t right for me. Off-road, I wear Nike Pegasus Trail GTX or Topo Terraventure.

The Peg GTX is my favorite trail running shoe for transition season here in Canada. There are about 6 weeks where the ground is wet from snow, ice, slush, or just puddles and it is between 20-40f most days, and that shoe shines there. I have put 180 miles on my pair with about 60 of those being road and they are very comfortable on all surfaces. That being said I do think my feet would get hot running in them on any day over 50 degrees and dry.

I just wore my 001s last weekend for the first time for two back to back trail long runs in Quebec. My initial reaction was “wow, these are worth every penny”. Incredibly comfortable from the first wear, although many people say they need a break in period. The outsole was so grippy I had tons of confidence on technical downhills and they fit my foot perfectly at a half size up. I do about 70-80mpw and just recently transitioned to about 50% of those being trail miles, so my only other trail shoe experience is Hoka Speedgoat 5 and Nike Peg Trail. However, I have about 15 pairs of road running shoes and I prefer these over all of them. Again, YMMV, but I absolutely love them after ~40 miles and I hear they get 500+ miles of use for most people. Also you have to get a .5 size up. 12.5 fit me perfectly and I’m a 12 in every other shoe. Lmk if you have more specific questions but I think the consensus on 001 is that if you have the money and want to spend it on a nice trail shoe, they are worth it!

Road to trail GTX shoe is basically the description of the Nike Pegasus Trail GTX. Be sure to give yourself plenty of time to try them on though as Nike's tend to run a little bit narrow and don't work for everyone. The Hoka Speedgoat also has GTX versions and those will have a Vibram outsole with larger lugs which may not be too annoying walking in urban settings (vs running on roads).

Motiva is designed for walking; Pegasus/Trail are general purpose entry level runners; Zegama are for low-drop (avoid if you are a heel striker) and ZoomX foam (more responsive); Juniper are brick-hard trail "runner" (makes for good walking/hiking shoes though, Juniper 2 Gore-Tex is my go-to wet weather walker); dunno much about Winflo GTX, but it is a budget shoes, so worse foam, but it looks very well insulated, so probably great for cold weather. All and all, sounds like Peg/Trail GTX are your best bet, which to choose depends on you needing the lugs or not, also which feels more comfortable for you (Trail 5's sizing is a bit odd, extremely narrow midfoot, it's the first Pegasus I couldn't wear TTS for). Unless you don't intend to run with them, in which case Juniper Trail 2 GTX will be very good value for money, they are heavily discounted in outlets these day.

I’ve got two pairs of trail runners 1 merrell and 1 Nike Pegasus gtx. Both 9.5ik size. The merrell are roomier but have a slightly harder sole. The Nike have a softer sole but are tight across the width of the foot. So as others have said try and get to a running shop and try them on with different types of socks.

I have a couple of pairs of trail runners . Nike Pegasus gtx. Normally use them for road running and a bit of trail. When I 1st got them they felt very tight round top of foot. They have given a bit but not too much. I’m normally a size 9 but have them in 9.5. I wouldn’t try and wear thicker socks with them, just trainer/running socks as they are very snug. I also have a pair of Merrel agility peak 5’s. These are better on actual trails again they are in 9.5 but can wear a slightly thicker socks if in colder weather. As with all shoes try them on in a shop if you can.

Look for a “light” trail shoe or “road-to-trail” shoe. Meaning a “trail” shoe that doesn’t have super aggressive tread or a rock plate. Something like the Nike Pegasus Trail would be perfect—they are pretty stylish too so would work for more casual situations. ASICS Novablast TR or Hoka Challenger are more. I think Brooks Divide is another example. Depending on the trails you’re talking about, a regular road running shoe would probably work also.

Merrell Moab shoes were definitely comfortable and durable. But heavy and bulky for me. I just bought Nike Pegasus to try out after the Moabs heels died on me.

Yes they are awesome shoes. But I’m a toe dragger and my right toe sole tore up so bad they are unusable. They are so comfortable though. I switched to adidas terrex hiking shoes (they have a gore-Tex version.) they are a little better imo. A little wider toe box and the ankle support is great for rocky paths.

Honestly, for so cal hiking, as many mentioned, trail runners suffice. I have a pair of Nike Pegasus trails that I got on sale that do just fine. However, I do like having gtx/waterproof sneaker/boot hybrids when I’m actually backpacking, esp in the sierra. My previous go tos were salomon x mid ultras. I recently switched to hoka gtx boots

Nike Pegasus Trail shoes are awesome- they have a Gore Tex option that are waterproof. You can find good deals on them online

I can easily recommend Nike trail shoes. I had the Pegasus trails last year and got a pair of wildhorses this year. It might be the most comfortable (for me) shoe from Nike I’ve worn. The kigers are great too

Peg trails and the wild horses are my favorites right now. Terra Kigers are good too but I’ve just gone through 3-4 pairs of those.

The Nike Pegasus may work, depends on your fitness and the terrain. They are my backup on long trips if my feet need a break. They are light and have a good grip. I prefer higher tops, but when I get to 15 miles or so my feet often need a change. They work great for that. You know your feet better than any of us.

Nike Pegasus trail shoes are good. The cushion is pretty solid.

\+1! had them in black, and in blue. Great shoes for hiking also. heck, even for running I like them better than the regular Pegasus.

I love the Pegasus trail, but know that the grip on it is indeed less than stellar. I’m used to it and I just kind of glide from time to time. But the ride is nice on both trail and pavement for me. I even wear them to the gym sometimes. It’s been a good all around shoe for me and the bad reviews have allowed me to get them on clearance pretty easily.

I wear Topos for my trail shoes and Brooks for road usually, but my go-to road to trail shoe for a bit has been the Nike Pegasus Trail. Really comfortable on pavement and I find sizing up about 1/2 size from my usual works well. I don’t typically look at Nikes since they tend to run narrow but these work for me

There's a third option which is hybrid aka "road to trail" shoes. The Nike Pegasus Trail series is one example. It's good on both road and trail. If the trails aren't technical at all you can also buy TR versions of road shoes like the Novablast 4 TR which are the same shoe but with an outsole that is slightly more geared towards trails.

Just got a new pair of Nike Pegasus today. Old ones lasted right at a year with almost daily rounds.

Crazy to see that you're using your Nike Pegasus trail running shoes! That's exactly what I'm going to be using to do the timberline Trail at the end of August. They're great for me and so much lighter than the clunky boots I used to use. I recommend getting gaiters though. I got mine from REI if you want the link, because you really don't want rocks and dust in your shoe .

Like any surface change, mix trail runs in gradually, starting at shorter distances/whatever you're doing now. Your ankles will thank you, and it'll give you some time to build the stabilizing muscles that don't get as much work on pavement. (Though I guess this partially depends on what gravel you're running on, too.) And, what u/medicore_remnants said about hiking, though I'd add that the goal is \*often\* to keep perceived effort mostly even across uphill/flat/downhill segments. That can mean hiking uphills, but doesn't have to be. (I also know trail runners who are very specific about uphill hiking form for efficiency — long strides and a solid hip bend for loading. I wouldn't sweat it.) I run in Nike Kiger/Pegasus Trail (with extra love for the Kigers — they're an amazing shoe and everyone I know who wears them swears by them, but that's also selecting for folks who liked the feel). Beyond that, I'll let other folks take over on shoe & preparation recs (and assume you'll be wise about HM training). For finding trails: whatever you use for hiking. AllTrails, Gaia, Avenza, Hiking Project, Google Maps, Strava, etc. It's all good. TBH sometimes I'll just look at a topo and pick a place that looks like it'd be fun/has trails. >I really want to do a half marathon at a national park. Lastly, and taking unsolicited advice as usual, I suspect I won't be the only one to say: consider setting some intermediate goals along the way. It's easy to get excited about a long race somewhere amazing (and I have done so!!), and just as easy to lose momentum when it feels too far away, either by date or by fitness. Having ways to celebrate milestones along the way (longest/furthest runs, most elevation, fastest split of a given distance) or to be in community with runners (run clubs, running shorter trail races, volunteering for the longer ones, etc.) is a great way to feed that joy and build momentum.

They are great. Probably all you would ever realistically need from a trail shoe. They're for sure not the fastest but you can get going in them. Very good durability and protection. My other shoe in the rotation is the Adidas Agravic Speed Ultra. That's for really trying to go fast and has little protection, so most of the mileage gets done in the Tomir. Before the Tomir I had older Nike Pegasus Trails. The Tomir is better is every category.

Never tried the v1. Found the v2 on sale on Backcountry, I think in June of 2024. Replaced an old pair of Pegasus Trails

When it’s as hot as it looks like being, I won’t wear the same shoes two days running - it lets them completely dry after sweaty days. Current thinking is Nike Pegasus Trail running (non-waterproof so more breathable) shoes for arrival and then I’ll prob have about a dozen pairs of shoes in the car. Prob the Pegasus and Keen walking shoes for rotation and maybe my Inov8 walking boots if my ankles start screaming that they need a bit more support as the weekend wears on. If it’s completely rock-hard ground for the duration then I may just go with cushioned running shoes every day. Nike Vomero, Pegasus and Asics Nimbus.

I ❤️ Pegasus Trails and Zegamas.

Sweden you have lots of wet slippery rocks. I love Nike peg trails and Zegamas but hey are not the best for wet rock. I have a trail running friend in Norway who has tried almost every shoe and he says the best are the Finnish brand VJ. He said it feels like they are glued to the rocks.

I like the Pegasus Trail and Zegama series.

Nike Pegasus trail. It’s the middle ground I needed

Pegasus trail! Not my favorite running shoe but I just got back from a trip with tons of walking and running from the Airbnb on roads to trails and the pegs were the perfect do it all shoe. Plus I don’t feel bad wearing the lugs down quickly on pavement because they’re relatively inexpensive.

The thing with trail shoes is they have lugs that make them grippy off road but wear down quickly if walking on tarmac. Look for something less aggressive on the grip think nike pegasus trail type

Look into Nike’s offerings. Very underrated. Peegasus Trail is awesome. Not a fan of HOKAs narrow toebox myself

Depends on the trails. They fit similar to the peg roads. However Nike peg trails aren't the best grip, the lugs are small so terrible in mud, they don't grip well on wet rock. They don't have a rock plate so can be uncomfortable on sharper rocky paths where it pushes through. Nike pegs are great as a road to trail hybrid and light trail such as forestry tracks/bridleways. I wouldn't rate them for mountain trails. However some people do manage that terrain in them. I did my first lakes 50k in them, my feet were just trashed at the end and I fell a lot. (If the event you're doing in September is the 2 valleys they'll most likely be fine for pretty much all that course as it's not technical at all)

Toe boxes on their Pegasus Trail are good and wide, have had them for multiple seasons 

I have haglunds, but it's rarely an issue for my trail shoes (apart from the heel being the main point of wear!). I've almost exclusively run in the Nike trail lineup (terra kiger, pegasus trail) which have softer heel counters, and have also tried Hoka SG 5s with no issues. Having said that, while they have always been fine for my use cases, I don't know if these would be quite aggressive enough for you.

Road to trail shoes have been a super important part of my stable of shoes for awhile, I really love making routes that go from road to trail and back again.  The problem with any good hybrid shoe is that it will not be amazing at either road or trail.  The Pegasus trail l, as others have mentioned here, is probably the best one.  Yes, the grip isn't as good as some other trail shoes but it's not supposed to be. Craft shoes are good, the Xplor has an amazing outsole but the upper is the sloppiest I've ever tried.  I haven't tried Hoka Challenger so I can't speak to that.  Unfortunately some companies have sort of given up on the hybrid shoe, Saucony, New Balance and Altra have all discontinued their hybrid offerings.  Ultimately you have to sort of experiment with different ones to see what works best for both surfaces, personally I'd go with the Pegasus trail but try some others if you get the chance.

I love my Nike Pegasus Trail shoes. Whilst they are the best trail shoe to use on the roads, they’ve also fared me well on wet loosened rinds and on dry coast paths.

I feel like my Glycerin's fit similarly to the Caldera, but the Caldera feels too soft and bulky for the rocky technical trails that I mostly run on. If you are on smoother graded paths, it might be excellent. I'll probably end up with a pair next year just to have them. The Catamount is a much sleeker shoe than the glycerin, but the upper fits me about the same. The foam seems similar, but it's not a plush shoe. It will be a great shoe for a shorter race like a 10k, but for a lot of longer slower runs, maybe you want something else. Watch some YouTube reviews and see what you think. I just got the version 3 on clearance for $50 and I like it a lot. I'll probably wear it for my next half marathon. I don't like the Cascadia, so no advice there. Both the catamount and caldera are 6mm drop, which will feel different from the 10mm drop of the glycerin, if that matters. As for other brands, the options are endless so I'm just talking Brooks here. Nike Pegasus Trail is a soft shoe with 10mm drop, so that's just a start for something more similar.

It it’s a wide toe-box/ball of the foot, Nike trail shoes are wide enough for me. My feet are super wide at the front, I can’t wear adidas, salomon or hoka due to toes getting squeezed, but seem to do well with Nike (wildhorse, Pegasus trail, kiger are good but wouldn’t suggest Juniper trail)

I’ve got insertional Achilles tendinitis too. I’m now using orthotics but have had some success with shockwave therapy right on that spot where it gets tender. Shoe wise I only wear Nike Pegasus Trail at the moment, tried other brands but keep coming back to these.

Can confirm toe drag kills Nike Pegasus faster than heel turn lol. 1 year in for me and I've got a ton of wear on my left toe but the heel is still very much intact.

I’ve been pretty happy with peg trails for non technical ultras.

Peg Trail 100%. If I go on a trip that will involve visiting cities as well as hiking trails, these are my go to. They handle everything you throw at them reasonably well. They aren't the best hiking or trail run shoes (grip can be less than desired) and they aren't the best city show(because sidewalks not ideal for wearing down grip lugs) but they aren't "bad" at either city or trail. They're a jack of all trades shoe for when you're doing a bit of everything. Plus as Nikes, they look like normal street wear and not like REI speciality outdoors granola hiking boots. Also, ReactX foam is pretty comfortable underfoot for long walking or standing stretches.

I like the Peg Trail for soaking up junk miles, but the prospect of doing a 100 in them makes me feel queasy. (I did do a 50 miler in them once, but wouldn't rush to repeat the experience)

I’ve had both the Pegasus Trails and the Hoka Speedgoats with the Vibram sole and the difference in massive. Have no confidence in the peggys but o bought a second pair of hokas as they’re super grippy. I live in the UK so for almost the whole year you’re running on wet slippy rocks on the trails

I have very flat feet and have some peg trails and ASICS Trabuco max 2

Nike Pegasus Trail, loads of colours and at least some of them are fine for casual use. They’re a great travel shoe.

I use trail running shoes for trail hiking and for golf… I have two pairs of HOKA trail running shoes that I have moved to every day shoes because I also wasn’t able to get them in Gore Tex. I alternate two pairs of Nike Pegasus with Gore Tex and love the water proof and thus will not buy another trail runner that isn’t water PROOF!

Nike peg trail had a surprisingly wide toe box. I had a massive bunion that required cutting open many of my running shoes and had surgery last year.

I love the Nike peg trail for running and agree they are some of the best looking trail shoes available. However I hate walking in them. Far too soft.

How wide are we talking? I know it sounds crazy because of the brand but I love my nike pegasus trails. (But I also focus much more on wide toe box than actual width)

I really like my Pegasus trail for road to trail and non technical trails

I have Gore Tex Nike Pegasus trail runners, and the are awesome for wet grass and rain. I find they dry out fine being exposed to those conditions. I have never waded in them or had my feet thoroughly soaked on the inside of the shoe.

If Nikes work for your feet the Pegasus trails are a nice option, they have a goretex model that is my favorite.

When I started trail running I did it in road shoes and I did well. Unless if you'll run in very steep climbs or in muddy places road shoes are ok. I run both and I have many different trail and road shoes but sometimes I go for a road run and I decide halfway to do some trails and I do well. For example, the Nike Pegasus (39 in my case) are pretty fine for trail running, the Puma Velocity Nitro 2 are also decent. As long as you won't choose road shoes that are too soft or if the outsole is "flat", you should do fine. The Cliftons or the Cloudmonsters aren't what I would use to run on trails but if that's what you have, go with the Clifton's. Far from being versatile but don't use the Cloudmonster on trails because you might roll an ankle. About trail running being harder, that's because you aren't used to run uphill or maybe because you're running at road running paces. You use a lot more your quads when you're running uphill, that's the biggest difference for me.

Been using the gore tex versions for almost 2 years now and have been loving them!

Best shoes for the pnw! What I use as well

Local trails. Have ran the 50k. Minimal climbs and lots of sand. You can wear road shoes if you want. But if the construction is thin, it might tear up quicker than normal from sharp rocks. Grip will be no issue as it’s fairly flat. Highly recommended gaiters as you will fill your shoes with sand etc. My usual shoe of choice, Nike peg trail (recent - Nnormal Kerajg).

I have a a number of miles on the lights trails with a fewer versions of the Pegasus. Worked out well for me.

Any recent Pegasus has a decent outsole that works on trails, as do a lot of Puma shoes with the PumaGrip outsole, namely the Deviate and the Velocity. Craft’s road shoes are all trail capable and I’ve been a fan of the CTM Ultra lineup as a trail-capable road shoe.

I wear Nike Trail Goretex runners all seasons. In the PNW there's usually a chance we find some kind of moisture all year, and my game is thrown off of I make big shoe adjustments between games.

altras suck. the tread got destroyed in like 2 months and the only time i've felt more like i can slide off of shit is when i wore xero's 360's with literally flat soles. to boot, the tread started separating from the foam lowers within a month because my form sucked at the time and i was rotating over the outside front of my foot. anyway, the shoe shouldn't have failed when it cost so much. horrible. the nike goretex trail runners were wayyyyyyyyy better than altras. but the zero drop was really comfortable so i bought the xeros after the altras, but those were only good for PERFECT conditions because they lacked tread. for winter, i got the insulated van hiking boots (MTE sk8-hi) that are waterproof for winter and those were sick, but really too heavy to play with during anything but the shittiest of new england weather. shoes never got wet from water, but def got wet from sweat because they're thinsulate lined. for this season, i just got a pair of vivo magna forest esc and its like the best of all of it. the michelin soles are fucking INCREDIBLE, i feel like a mountain goat but still have the xero feel i liked. the only downside is now that i actually have grippy bois is that they actually transport moist soil back into the house. this is normal for good shoes that give traction, so i leave a thick bristle brush by the door and clean em out before i walk inside. long story short, if you think altras are durable, you're probably noodle arming and not committing, and then walking around a grass course. i've heard the OG varients were good, but the pair i bought, the pair my boss bought, and the pair the other dude in my league bought are all dogshit and they're from the last year and a half.

Well, they’re meant for trail running. Not spinning on concrete. I’ve had two different pairs I’ve put around 400 miles on trail running and they’ve held up extremely well. I will agree with you on the Nike goretex trail runners. They were awesome to play disc golf in, but terrible for running.

I wear nike goretex trails. Typically get them for around £45 in the Nike outlets.

Yeah I have been playing in these for years. Liked them so much I have a pair for regular stuff outside and a pair for disc golfing

I got nike trail runners and they work great. If theres a nike outlet store you can find them on sale.. I make sure I get just the right size and not too loose so they're not sloppy. Personally I put in the spenco runner gel insoles to reduce impact because I play on turf half the time. I also rock the mcdavid level 3 ankle braces om both feet s. This helps make sure I never roll my ankle. Hope this helps