Nike - Zegama 1

I ran the entire wonderland trail and TMB trail in zegamas. They’re my favorite trail shoes. I can take them on anything and they feel great. I’ve run thousands of miles in the Zegama 1s and 2s. Both are fantastic imo. I’m a competitive runner and run fast on these trails too. Steep ups, steep downs. Technical terrain. Rarely a blister with those things too.

Same issues, Nike zegama 1 has been great if you can find it on clearance. I haven’t tried the 2 but I think it’s similarly wide. Peregrine 14 is also overall very wide but I personally needed and insole to make that one comfortable in the arch

Trail: Norda 001 x2 Nike Zegama 1 Nike Zegama 2 Nike Ultrafly Topo MTN Racer 2 Saucony Endorphin Edge Salomon Ultra Glide Road: Hoka Clifton 9 Topo Atmos Saucony Endorphin Speed 3

Hey OP, I asked a similar question a few years ago and I got the same spiels but I do still think that a high-cut runner isn't a bad idea. I don't think it's completely removing your ankle from the running equation, just giving you extra support. Something like the hoka speedgoat mid seems like a good shoe provided they fit right for you. I've also really wanted to try the Nike Kiger because it's a pretty low stack trail shoe and I think that would feel a lot more stable. Currently I have the Nike zegama and the fit is perfect just feels a bit tall.

I have the Zegama 1 and I think it fits my foot quite well and TTS. Definitely helps to use runners knot for lock down though. Maybe the 2 is different, I'd like to try them.

I got the ZoomX Zegama (v1) as an all purpose one , bit of running , Cricket in the local park, walks in general. In the long run I found the Zegama's a bit off. Apparently the Zegama's (v 1&2 ) both have a 4.5mm Heel To Toe Drop, and Given that I'm fairly flat footed , apparently the sweet spot for me is 8.5-9 mm (Evident with the ASICS Gel Cumulus 26 & NB 860v12 GTX). Recently, I got my wife the all black Pegasus 41s and she swears by them and has been nudging me to get an all black pair. I've tried the PT5 GTX (TTS for all my Nikes) and found them great. The only bummer is the price tag of £145 which is holding me back !!!

I must be the only guy who likes the Zegama 1 way more than the 2’s, despite the not having vibram soles.

I’m trying to break in the new Altra Olympus 275. Zero drop but their original foot shape. It’s quite a comfortable shoe so far. I’ve been struggling with numb toes on all my trail runs and want to transition to zero drops in the hope of maybe alleviating it.  Other trail shoes I’ve had success with as a high volume, wide foot: Nike zegama 1 (2 was okay but too low volume. Definitely the better shoe - half sized up in both) Hoka Speedgoat 6. Not a fun ride but it fit okay (half sized up) The new hoka Challenger 8 (true to size and 2E) - these are actually pretty nice.  

Those shoes are clunky and not great for casual use. I have both.

Yes I have Zegama 1 and 2 and the 1 fits much better, although Zegama 1 is just slightly short or low over the big toe. The Zegama 1 is more banana shaped with a curved midfoot, but the Zegama 2 is quite straight. The main problem is over the instep it's very tight and I struggled with foot circulation and had to relace them in in different patterns to get them to work. They run a bit differently too - the Zegama 1 I could get up onto my toes easily, but the Zegama 2 just wants to cruise in a midfoot striking position. Doesn't feel agile on uphills especially with the heel lift.

I like Zegama 1, but not the Zegama 2, since the fit is more Hoka like. Like Zegama 1 is more curved and tight in the arch.

The rim and core shoes like Prodigio Pro/Max, Zegama, Xodus Ultra, bypass this limit as they offer a softer cushion inside without losing stability by having a firmer rim of foam on the outside.

Are you in America? Go to Ross. I’ve found all sorts of nice trail shoes there for like 30-45 bucks. Bought my wife some zegamas recently bought my buddy some terrex ultras, I’ve got puma deviate nitros from there. I see all sorts of shit. Just gotta look incrementally

Topo Ultraventure is a solid alternative. Nike Zegama also similar.

I've had fairly good luck with them, they usually crap out for me around 500-600 miles. I feel like that ZoomX midsole starts to get pretty lifeless around 500 miles. Uppers also start to tear for me, but that could just be due to the heaps of sweat and dirt that dry them out. Really great shoe overall, been my go-to for the last few thousand miles of trail running. Wish it was maybe just a touch lighter though, but nothing's ever going to be perfect.

Ah, thanks. Good additional info there! I tend to keep a few different shoes in my drop bags or with my crew during the really long races. I've found that really high stack shoes (Speegoats, Zegamas for me) work well early in the race, but as my muscles fatigue, my form degrades, and my turnover starts to suffer, I want a little bit less shoe. The big stack shoes make me stumble and trip! When that becomes a problem, I go down to a smaller stack shoe. Like most things shoe related, I think you'll have to experiment a bit. Over the years, I've grown further and further toward using exclusively high stack shoes both training and racing. I've been testing out different stack heights in training more recently, simply to remind myself that other options exist and can work in the right situation. If you feel like your shoes might be holding you back, give a new strategy a try.

I really love the Nike Zegama. I’ve done up to 32 miles of trail in them and my feet were great at the end.

Trail: Nike Zegama Road: Adidas Boston 12 or Asics Novablast Race: Asics Metaspeed Edge Paris

Yuuuup! Little heave but they have good support and that zoomx foam. I’m wearing them for my 50k coming up

For padding do the brooks calderas or Nike zegamas. I really like my Nikes.

The nikes, They have a pretty high ankle support compared to most shoes I’ve worn, they have really great traction with the vibram rubber soles. I wore them on my recent 50k and that course has some really technical sections with volcanic rock, I rolled my ankles a few times but that was due to fatigue and not paying attention

Nike Zegamas

Nike Zegmas! Just completed the CDT in them!

Yea same here. 2 of mine are different versions of hoka speed goats and a could Nike zegamas. I just have a hard time getting rid of the old ones because every once in a while they can be nice for a change of feel on a recovery run

When I first got them they took a couple runs to get used to break in . After about 50km I haven't noticed it at all

Again, I’m sure they’ve gotten better but I had a pair of 2020 wildhorse and 2021 zegama…I was pissed they were called trail shoes, the outsole was horrible and the uppers were super hot. If it wasn’t tightly packed dirt or super small gravel you’d eat shit. The shin scars and swollen wrists and ankles I got from them junkers turned me off to Nike trail (ACG) forever. They usually look great though….

I have had a similar struggle. Brooks cascadia too stiff, hokas too narrow even in a wide, topos too sloppy, not sure about committing to zero drop with altra, I assumed Nikes wouldn't work....but the zegamas fit beautifully. I am a lady and I wear the men's size for the width and it's the best fitting trail shoe I have found.

I just bought a pair of Zegamas and I’m absolutely loving them. Brooks Calder 6 is one of my favorite trail shoes of all time. It was everything I wanted the speedlands GS to be

Zegama is a great shoe but if you’re really looking for some bounce, the Ultraflys are sick.

Can confirm. I have a wide ish mid sole and love the Zegamas. They're probably a bit too boxy for anything technical, but smooth gravel and grass they really excel at.

Echo your thoughts on the mudtalons. I used them on a 30k last week that was 50/50 muddy trail into hard pack and roads. My legs were beaten up afterwards. I've just picked up a pair of Nike Zegamas for the same use case you have. I was considering the Mafates, but I think they'd have been too narrow for me.

Slightly taller, slightly heavier. I run trails in Nike Zegama for the most part and appreciate them very much.

I would try them on because everyone has a different foot but I have a pretty large Haglund's on one foot (and likely a little less extreme one on the other - never x-rayed though) and really like the Salomon Ultra Glide (wide), Topo Mtn Racer, just got a pair of the Nike Zegama. I don't know if I would call the heel counter soft (certainly not a shoe expert) but there is padding in the heel which in my case keeps the bump from getting too irritated. YMMV.

I’ve tried others, always come back to pegasus, and now, also zegama, after I did the tour du mont blanc with them as my only shoe

I walk my dogs (and that’s a lot, in my case) in my old Nike trail running shoes (not the Pegasus, the Zegama). They have now almost 2000km on them and are still fine for walks. Don’t run in them anymore. (Did that until more or less 1200km.) So; fine for daily wear I would say.

When I run in similar terrain, I always notice my buddy running in Cliftons.  Zegamas work well. I remove the insoles to make them roomy. It's snug. For context, I typically run with the MTN racer but I've been experimenting. I think any low stacked road shoes are fine. But then, some folks run with super shoes in Western and javelina.

Nike Zegama is the jam

Sweden you have lots of wet slippery rocks. I love Nike peg trails and Zegamas but hey are not the best for wet rock. I have a trail running friend in Norway who has tried almost every shoe and he says the best are the Finnish brand VJ. He said it feels like they are glued to the rocks.

I have plantar fasciitis and get really bad foot pain easily. I always wear trail runners hiking. I recently hiked 12 miles on Mt. Whitney in the Sierra Nevadas and 11 miles on Mount LeConte in the Smoky Mountains in the Nike Zegama series trail runners. They were awesome. I would not have been able to hike these trails without them. Just note - these types of trail runners have a thick foam bottom (similar to hokas), so there is no rock plate. I did not miss having the rock plate. The comfy foam is way better, in my opinion, but I am not a runner, so I'm not sure if that would affect you differently.

The Zegama is the top of the tree for Nike trail shoes, please try them if you see them. Vomero Roam is another good option ✌🏾

I did a sandy, gravelly, not super technical 50M with the Zegamas and they absolutely slap. Not enough protection for technical stuff but great for flowy smooth-ish stuff.

Did they take a bit of getting used to? Did two runs in them on the weekend and found they were a bit rough on the bottoms of my feet. Temps between -5 and -10c though so that might have stiffened them up.

Inov8 trailfly and nike Zegama are pretty wide comfy fit

Noooooo!!!! They stink. Heel splitting issues galore. Get the Nike zegama or literally anything else

Motiva is designed for walking; Pegasus/Trail are general purpose entry level runners; Zegama are for low-drop (avoid if you are a heel striker) and ZoomX foam (more responsive); Juniper are brick-hard trail "runner" (makes for good walking/hiking shoes though, Juniper 2 Gore-Tex is my go-to wet weather walker); dunno much about Winflo GTX, but it is a budget shoes, so worse foam, but it looks very well insulated, so probably great for cold weather. All and all, sounds like Peg/Trail GTX are your best bet, which to choose depends on you needing the lugs or not, also which feels more comfortable for you (Trail 5's sizing is a bit odd, extremely narrow midfoot, it's the first Pegasus I couldn't wear TTS for). Unless you don't intend to run with them, in which case Juniper Trail 2 GTX will be very good value for money, they are heavily discounted in outlets these day.

I’m an ultraventure fan too and get it. I tried Nike zegamas on a whim and really like them. Wide toe box and light and springy.

Nike Zegama. I have had quite a few kilometers with them and they are still perfect. Good grip, very comfortable. They feel like a glove.

i also love trail runners (being a trail runner) for lots of stuff but be careful about the sole/tread. the shoes i got for wet stuff (nike zegama) were never intended to be used on (wet) pavement, and i found them dangerous on urban streets in the rain. up until that point they had been my go-to “for literally anything” shoe.

Zegama's are heavy, I'd go with the challenger in this situation and I've used the Zegamas in a 100.

Zegama have a way more aggressive tread/lugs.  Challenger is a road-to-trail shoe with less aggressive tread.  I haven't worn Challengers since the 6, but between those and the new Zegama, I find the Zegama to be squishier and the Challenger to feel more stable.  If you like the Challenger, why would you switch?

I really like the Peg Trail 5 for your use case, it’s super comfy, not too soft and the grip is fine too. I struggled with the Zegama, it’s a big, cumbersome beast and it started to hurt my feet from mile 18 ish and I couldn’t work out why. The Tomir I really liked the look off but they go up to a UK 12 in size and I needed bigger. The outsole on them is brilliant as I have it on another pair of shoes.

i really like my Nike trail runner, i bought a few pair of the first iteration of the pegasus goretex trail. Looks like they aren't as wide in the newer iterations, but they have held up really well and the react foam is great.

>... false sense of security so you roll/sprain your ankle worse. This was very true for me :) In my country the "old hiking rule" was that you always need high boots for mountains because they would protect your ankles. But it turns out that with high boots I had a false sense of security and was thus less careful when descending and consequently often twisted my ankle. The high shoe maybe helped a bit and prevented a harder sprain but it still hurt. I then switched to trail runners and I can see that I now walk way more carefully and have a way more precise foot placement than before. Consequently I haven't twisted my ankle ever since the switch. However it must be said that not all trail runners are equal in terms of stability and ground feel... La Sportiva Bushido which I have now are awesome but some Nike trail runners I had in the past were very bad and unstable.

I got nike trail runners and they work great. If theres a nike outlet store you can find them on sale.. I make sure I get just the right size and not too loose so they're not sloppy. Personally I put in the spenco runner gel insoles to reduce impact because I play on turf half the time. I also rock the mcdavid level 3 ankle braces om both feet s. This helps make sure I never roll my ankle. Hope this helps