Nike - Zegama 1

Same issues, Nike zegama 1 has been great if you can find it on clearance. I haven’t tried the 2 but I think it’s similarly wide. Peregrine 14 is also overall very wide but I personally needed and insole to make that one comfortable in the arch

Trail: Norda 001 x2 Nike Zegama 1 Nike Zegama 2 Nike Ultrafly Topo MTN Racer 2 Saucony Endorphin Edge Salomon Ultra Glide Road: Hoka Clifton 9 Topo Atmos Saucony Endorphin Speed 3

I got the ZoomX Zegama (v1) as an all purpose one , bit of running , Cricket in the local park, walks in general. In the long run I found the Zegama's a bit off. Apparently the Zegama's (v 1&2 ) both have a 4.5mm Heel To Toe Drop, and Given that I'm fairly flat footed , apparently the sweet spot for me is 8.5-9 mm (Evident with the ASICS Gel Cumulus 26 & NB 860v12 GTX). Recently, I got my wife the all black Pegasus 41s and she swears by them and has been nudging me to get an all black pair. I've tried the PT5 GTX (TTS for all my Nikes) and found them great. The only bummer is the price tag of £145 which is holding me back !!!

I must be the only guy who likes the Zegama 1 way more than the 2’s, despite the not having vibram soles.

Are you in America? Go to Ross. I’ve found all sorts of nice trail shoes there for like 30-45 bucks. Bought my wife some zegamas recently bought my buddy some terrex ultras, I’ve got puma deviate nitros from there. I see all sorts of shit. Just gotta look incrementally

I really love the Nike Zegama. I’ve done up to 32 miles of trail in them and my feet were great at the end.

Trail: Nike Zegama Road: Adidas Boston 12 or Asics Novablast Race: Asics Metaspeed Edge Paris

Yuuuup! Little heave but they have good support and that zoomx foam. I’m wearing them for my 50k coming up

Nike Zegamas

Nike Zegmas! Just completed the CDT in them!

When I first got them they took a couple runs to get used to break in . After about 50km I haven't noticed it at all

I have had a similar struggle. Brooks cascadia too stiff, hokas too narrow even in a wide, topos too sloppy, not sure about committing to zero drop with altra, I assumed Nikes wouldn't work....but the zegamas fit beautifully. I am a lady and I wear the men's size for the width and it's the best fitting trail shoe I have found.

I just bought a pair of Zegamas and I’m absolutely loving them. Brooks Calder 6 is one of my favorite trail shoes of all time. It was everything I wanted the speedlands GS to be

Zegama is a great shoe but if you’re really looking for some bounce, the Ultraflys are sick.

Can confirm. I have a wide ish mid sole and love the Zegamas. They're probably a bit too boxy for anything technical, but smooth gravel and grass they really excel at.

Echo your thoughts on the mudtalons. I used them on a 30k last week that was 50/50 muddy trail into hard pack and roads. My legs were beaten up afterwards. I've just picked up a pair of Nike Zegamas for the same use case you have. I was considering the Mafates, but I think they'd have been too narrow for me.

Slightly taller, slightly heavier. I run trails in Nike Zegama for the most part and appreciate them very much.

I would try them on because everyone has a different foot but I have a pretty large Haglund's on one foot (and likely a little less extreme one on the other - never x-rayed though) and really like the Salomon Ultra Glide (wide), Topo Mtn Racer, just got a pair of the Nike Zegama. I don't know if I would call the heel counter soft (certainly not a shoe expert) but there is padding in the heel which in my case keeps the bump from getting too irritated. YMMV.

When I run in similar terrain, I always notice my buddy running in Cliftons.  Zegamas work well. I remove the insoles to make them roomy. It's snug. For context, I typically run with the MTN racer but I've been experimenting. I think any low stacked road shoes are fine. But then, some folks run with super shoes in Western and javelina.

Nike Zegama is the jam

Sweden you have lots of wet slippery rocks. I love Nike peg trails and Zegamas but hey are not the best for wet rock. I have a trail running friend in Norway who has tried almost every shoe and he says the best are the Finnish brand VJ. He said it feels like they are glued to the rocks.

Hey OP, I asked a similar question a few years ago and I got the same spiels but I do still think that a high-cut runner isn't a bad idea. I don't think it's completely removing your ankle from the running equation, just giving you extra support. Something like the hoka speedgoat mid seems like a good shoe provided they fit right for you. I've also really wanted to try the Nike Kiger because it's a pretty low stack trail shoe and I think that would feel a lot more stable. Currently I have the Nike zegama and the fit is perfect just feels a bit tall.

I did a sandy, gravelly, not super technical 50M with the Zegamas and they absolutely slap. Not enough protection for technical stuff but great for flowy smooth-ish stuff.

Did they take a bit of getting used to? Did two runs in them on the weekend and found they were a bit rough on the bottoms of my feet. Temps between -5 and -10c though so that might have stiffened them up.

Inov8 trailfly and nike Zegama are pretty wide comfy fit

Noooooo!!!! They stink. Heel splitting issues galore. Get the Nike zegama or literally anything else

Motiva is designed for walking; Pegasus/Trail are general purpose entry level runners; Zegama are for low-drop (avoid if you are a heel striker) and ZoomX foam (more responsive); Juniper are brick-hard trail "runner" (makes for good walking/hiking shoes though, Juniper 2 Gore-Tex is my go-to wet weather walker); dunno much about Winflo GTX, but it is a budget shoes, so worse foam, but it looks very well insulated, so probably great for cold weather. All and all, sounds like Peg/Trail GTX are your best bet, which to choose depends on you needing the lugs or not, also which feels more comfortable for you (Trail 5's sizing is a bit odd, extremely narrow midfoot, it's the first Pegasus I couldn't wear TTS for). Unless you don't intend to run with them, in which case Juniper Trail 2 GTX will be very good value for money, they are heavily discounted in outlets these day.

I’m an ultraventure fan too and get it. I tried Nike zegamas on a whim and really like them. Wide toe box and light and springy.

Nike Zegama. I have had quite a few kilometers with them and they are still perfect. Good grip, very comfortable. They feel like a glove.

Zegama's are heavy, I'd go with the challenger in this situation and I've used the Zegamas in a 100.

Zegama have a way more aggressive tread/lugs.  Challenger is a road-to-trail shoe with less aggressive tread.  I haven't worn Challengers since the 6, but between those and the new Zegama, I find the Zegama to be squishier and the Challenger to feel more stable.  If you like the Challenger, why would you switch?

Those shoes are clunky and not great for casual use. I have both.

I really like the Peg Trail 5 for your use case, it’s super comfy, not too soft and the grip is fine too. I struggled with the Zegama, it’s a big, cumbersome beast and it started to hurt my feet from mile 18 ish and I couldn’t work out why. The Tomir I really liked the look off but they go up to a UK 12 in size and I needed bigger. The outsole on them is brilliant as I have it on another pair of shoes.

I got nike trail runners and they work great. If theres a nike outlet store you can find them on sale.. I make sure I get just the right size and not too loose so they're not sloppy. Personally I put in the spenco runner gel insoles to reduce impact because I play on turf half the time. I also rock the mcdavid level 3 ankle braces om both feet s. This helps make sure I never roll my ankle. Hope this helps