Nike - Zegama 1

I ran the entire wonderland trail and TMB trail in zegamas. They’re my favorite trail shoes. I can take them on anything and they feel great. I’ve run thousands of miles in the Zegama 1s and 2s. Both are fantastic imo. I’m a competitive runner and run fast on these trails too. Steep ups, steep downs. Technical terrain. Rarely a blister with those things too.

Same issues, Nike zegama 1 has been great if you can find it on clearance. I haven’t tried the 2 but I think it’s similarly wide. Peregrine 14 is also overall very wide but I personally needed and insole to make that one comfortable in the arch

Hey OP, I asked a similar question a few years ago and I got the same spiels but I do still think that a high-cut runner isn't a bad idea. I don't think it's completely removing your ankle from the running equation, just giving you extra support. Something like the hoka speedgoat mid seems like a good shoe provided they fit right for you. I've also really wanted to try the Nike Kiger because it's a pretty low stack trail shoe and I think that would feel a lot more stable. Currently I have the Nike zegama and the fit is perfect just feels a bit tall.

I have the Zegama 1 and I think it fits my foot quite well and TTS. Definitely helps to use runners knot for lock down though. Maybe the 2 is different, I'd like to try them.

Does this trail shoe exist? I've been trail running in Western Washington for around 15yrs and been thru a lot of shoes. Here's what I'm looking for. I have shoes that have most of these features, but have not found one that has them all. About me: 50yo male, 210#, 25-35 miles per week (some weeks closer to 100 during the summer), steep/technical terrain, lots of rocks and slick durt/mud 1. Super foam midsole 2. Plate (rock plate or propulsion) 3. 6-8mm of drop. 4. Good energy return 5. 4-5mm lugs 6. Grippy (mostly) full rubber sole 7. Reasonably padded tongue 8. Stack in the 30mm-40mm range 9. Handle 30+ mile days 10. Can be found for $100 or less on sale Most recent shoes Merrell Agility Peak 5 - almost perfect but tongue is too thin and causes discomfort when having to tighten on steep downhills, good foam, but wish it had better energy return. Love the mega grip sole. Saucony Endorphin Rift - close to perfect. Main issue is the lack of plate leads to more rock strikes than I want. Great energy return. Nike Zegama 1 - great cushion and energy return. Sole didn't have enough grip and no plate. Saucony Xodus Ultra (v.1)- again very close but felt very unstable, rolling my ankle numerous times. I have a pair of North Face Vectiv Enduris 3 to try, but I know the 3mm lugs is will keep them from being my daily shoe, but that seems to be the only thing holding them back. Was a big fan of older Xodus series, but have not liked it as much since they switched to the Ultra series. Also less interested in the boutique brands since they are rarely on sale. Go thru too many shoes to be dropping $150+ every time. What am I missing that's out there? The cost piece can be anticipated due to brand (e.g. Merrell, North Face, Nike and Saucony go on sale or on Sierra.com).

Thanks. I picked up my Zegama for $65 when the 2 came out. Maybe I'll grab a pair of the 2 when the 3 comes out. I've had a number of painful rock strikes in my 1s, which is why I think they'd be perfect with a rock plate.

I got the ZoomX Zegama (v1) as an all purpose one , bit of running , Cricket in the local park, walks in general. In the long run I found the Zegama's a bit off. Apparently the Zegama's (v 1&2 ) both have a 4.5mm Heel To Toe Drop, and Given that I'm fairly flat footed , apparently the sweet spot for me is 8.5-9 mm (Evident with the ASICS Gel Cumulus 26 & NB 860v12 GTX). Recently, I got my wife the all black Pegasus 41s and she swears by them and has been nudging me to get an all black pair. I've tried the PT5 GTX (TTS for all my Nikes) and found them great. The only bummer is the price tag of £145 which is holding me back !!!

I must be the only guy who likes the Zegama 1 way more than the 2’s, despite the not having vibram soles.

I’m trying to break in the new Altra Olympus 275. Zero drop but their original foot shape. It’s quite a comfortable shoe so far. I’ve been struggling with numb toes on all my trail runs and want to transition to zero drops in the hope of maybe alleviating it.  Other trail shoes I’ve had success with as a high volume, wide foot: Nike zegama 1 (2 was okay but too low volume. Definitely the better shoe - half sized up in both) Hoka Speedgoat 6. Not a fun ride but it fit okay (half sized up) The new hoka Challenger 8 (true to size and 2E) - these are actually pretty nice.  

Those shoes are clunky and not great for casual use. I have both.

Yes I have Zegama 1 and 2 and the 1 fits much better, although Zegama 1 is just slightly short or low over the big toe. The Zegama 1 is more banana shaped with a curved midfoot, but the Zegama 2 is quite straight. The main problem is over the instep it's very tight and I struggled with foot circulation and had to relace them in in different patterns to get them to work. They run a bit differently too - the Zegama 1 I could get up onto my toes easily, but the Zegama 2 just wants to cruise in a midfoot striking position. Doesn't feel agile on uphills especially with the heel lift.

I like Zegama 1, but not the Zegama 2, since the fit is more Hoka like. Like Zegama 1 is more curved and tight in the arch.

The rim and core shoes like Prodigio Pro/Max, Zegama, Xodus Ultra, bypass this limit as they offer a softer cushion inside without losing stability by having a firmer rim of foam on the outside.

Topo Ultraventure is a solid alternative. Nike Zegama also similar.

I've had fairly good luck with them, they usually crap out for me around 500-600 miles. I feel like that ZoomX midsole starts to get pretty lifeless around 500 miles. Uppers also start to tear for me, but that could just be due to the heaps of sweat and dirt that dry them out. Really great shoe overall, been my go-to for the last few thousand miles of trail running. Wish it was maybe just a touch lighter though, but nothing's ever going to be perfect.

Ah, thanks. Good additional info there! I tend to keep a few different shoes in my drop bags or with my crew during the really long races. I've found that really high stack shoes (Speegoats, Zegamas for me) work well early in the race, but as my muscles fatigue, my form degrades, and my turnover starts to suffer, I want a little bit less shoe. The big stack shoes make me stumble and trip! When that becomes a problem, I go down to a smaller stack shoe. Like most things shoe related, I think you'll have to experiment a bit. Over the years, I've grown further and further toward using exclusively high stack shoes both training and racing. I've been testing out different stack heights in training more recently, simply to remind myself that other options exist and can work in the right situation. If you feel like your shoes might be holding you back, give a new strategy a try.

I really love the Nike Zegama. I’ve done up to 32 miles of trail in them and my feet were great at the end.