NNormal - Tomir 01 Waterproof

[https://www.nnormal.com/en\_US/content/tomir-waterproof](https://www.nnormal.com/en_US/content/tomir-waterproof) I ran in these last winter in Reno, even on Peavine trails, and they keep you dry, the grip is great. Not for your asphalt slamdowns.

2 pairs of the Superior 5, terrible traction when wet on limestone. 1 pair of the Olympus 5, much better traction but the midsole packed out around 200 miles in and that’s probably because of the inner flex thing because there’s less foam there. I’ve got some topo pursuits with 400+ miles that are great and Nnormal tomirs with 400+ miles that’s are also still great. I just don’t think altra makes a great shoe for me, especially because I have a narrow foot and would lose multiple toenails after marathon+ distances.

I actually find that making sure you have a good fit around ankle and midfoot does more to 'save your toes', especially where moving forward downhill is an issue. For example, I recently discounted the Nnormal Tomir due to excessive forward slip, even when trying on. I've never experienced excessive 'swelling' in the forefoot per se either. Does it actually happen to you? My only consideration in forefoot is width to splay, and then a thumbs width gap at the end of the toes. I do have a slim ankle/midfoot so getting a shoe that doesn't move around has been difficult at times, as I always need mine to feel more like a running shoe than a specific 'ultra' shoe. The best one recently is the Salomon Genesis, as well as the La Sportiva Prodigio. Proper locked in feel at the back, comfy in the front.

My Tomir seem true to size.

I have tried GoreTex and Seal Skinz and found that shoes or socks that have a membrane end up just as wet by the end of the run because my feet get all sweaty and maybe even heavier because they don't drain for shit. As far as brands go, here is a quick review NNormal (Tomir) started falling apart after 30km. Not impressed with fit, look or durability. Hoka: SG4 fantastic shoe, had 3 pair SG 5, never felt stable in my foot ran maybe 20km before I retired them to leisure shoe. Tecton/x V1 and V2 Super comfortable shoes, dog shit in the mud but I love them on the dry days. V3 blew apart in the forefoot after only two runs. I fixed them but they are not super stable either... we see how much I end up using them in the future. Altra: Lone Peak and Olympus...meh OnClouds went straight to goodwill, Saucony: Peregeine / Endorphin Rift again not impressed with durability and no good for mud and wet roots. Speedland: GL-PDX I looove them, just yesterday I was heading up the mtn and caught my foot on some hidden rebar, this would have destroyed the toe on any other pair of shoes that I own and I was sure I would look down and see a hole... nope, not even a mark. I am greatly impressed. They drain well and have nice traction as good or better than Vibram. GS:RAR Initial impression is that they fit well and after some minor adjustments to lugs are comfortable to run in on the treadmill, nothing outside yet as I will use them in the snow with crampons and in the summer. when it is dry. No experience with Norda, I don't like how they look imo Keep in mind that wool insulates even when wet and if you are going in a long run maybe bring a dry pair along for a pit stop ✅ I recommend this over membranes any day. For reference I run in Southwest Norway where we get around 300 days of rain yearly. Happy Trails 🤙🏼

I run in the Nnormal Tomir. I call them my ultra tractors. Its not an exciting shoe, but excells in grip. The outsole is by far the strongest element of this shoe. It'll work in mud just fine. I've thrown everything from Dutch winter mud to Alpine mountains at them and the grip is excellent everywhere. I don't know the Saucony shoe so no comment there.

My Hierro v7 were pretty great (V8 has ruined them). Now onto nnormal tomir which for me is excellent.

I’d encourage you to go to a dedicated running store and try a bunch on. My experience with speed goats, which are currently what I’m running in, is the ankle is actually somewhat shallow. The heel in Nnormal and even Sauconys and some Solomons are deeper then the speedgoats in my experience. My rec would be try out Nnormal Tomir. I thought the heel in that was deep and really superb.

I like my tomirs, but the lugs aren't spaced out and deep enough for mud at this time of year out on the hills. You'll be sliding all over the place. If your primary use case is mud and soft ground, I'd recommend inov8 mudtalons. Designed literally for what you're looking for.

I found the toe box on the Kjerag and Tommirs really tight fitting as well. I just use my Kjerags for short and fast fell races. Anything over 90 mins and they're too uncomfortable.

I recommend the Nnormal Tomir, comfortable and incredibly durable. Plus the grip on them is phenomenal on technical terrain (wore them in the UTS50k and on multiple scramble hikes in Lakes) Also have heard excellent things about the La Sportiva Prodigio Pro from close friends

Norda 002 Speedland GL:PDX and a pair of Nnormal Tormir's for fun.

My Nnormal Tomir midsoles are cooked around 800km

Nnormal Tomir - you feel everything but also don’t feel anything, they are great!

I also have wide feet, I wear topo athletic shoes religiously. However I purchased NNormal tomir’s and they surprisingly fit my wide feet well. I don’t know where you are from, but they might have a pair in a store for you to try! Best of luck OP

Retired my first pair of Nnormal Tomir’s at 1200km, mainly because the uppers started to loosen up. I’ve lost a small piece of one lug on a super technical race, but the tread could probably go for another 4-500km

Mine have 800km on them and look amazingly good. The worst part is trying to clean them, the uppers just refuse to give up the dirt

My friend and I ran the whole trail a few weeks ago and both used trail runners: I wore the Arc'teryx Sylan and he had the Nnormal Tomir. We didn't have heavy packs, but I would not use hiking boots on the TCT given how warm the island is and how little technicality the trail has. Enjoy! [https://www.strava.com/activities/14782948235](https://www.strava.com/activities/14782948235)

Wide toe box and Hoka typically don’t belong in the same sentence (never lost as many toenails as I have in various Hoka models). Check out the nnormal tomirs!

I didn't think I would go for a road shoe. The desert is a tough place for shoes. Gaiters are a must, but the brand doesn't matter too much. I've had nice desert experiences with the Altra Olympus and the nnormal tomir. Both have enough cushion to keep rocks from smarting too much. Both are not narrow, so sinking into the sand shouldn't be too much of a worry. The Olympus is obviously wider, but the tomir has great lugs for loose terrain. Desert comes in many varieties. If you are going to spend most of your time on well maintained 2 track, road shoes might cut it. Otherwise, I'd definitely go for trail shoes.

Like others I would advise varying your drop in your shoe quiver for training if you can afford it. Hammies/calves for me get pretty wrecked from low/zero drop (0-4; mostly Topos) but high drop (8-10mm; NNormal Tomir and Sportiva Mutant) will sometimes give me funny knee feelings especially if I'm really pushing it on the downhills. Medium drop (6mm) seems to be a happy spot for me (for racing at least) and incidentally the same drop as my all-time favorite shoes (NNormal Kjerags). I have multiple 50Ks in them ranging from Speedgoat with 12K vert to fairly flat races with \~3K vert and haven't had anything tweaky.

Update in this. Bought and sent back the Nnormal Tomir, lovely shoe and exactly what I wanted but just didn’t fit my feet, same as with the Thundercross. I also went to Decathlon and their shoes are just too narrow. So, we’re trying a new approach and will be sending a pair of shoes I know fit to a specialist cobbler to have a Vibram Zeglite sole added to them.

Try nnormal tomir (also available in mid high boots). Should last you very long.

I have the regular tomir but a friend of mine with ankle issues got himself the mid version and afaik he's pretty happy with them even raced ultras using them with no problem.

I can only chime in in Nnormal but figure I will. They were arguably the most durable trail shoe I’ve ever owned, but they had zero cushion/give (IMO). If you don’t mind firm shoes, they’ll last you forever (I ran several ultras in them), but I won’t buy them again because I like a little more comfort.

Speedgoats are super grippy for me but if you want even more bite I would suggest looking into NNormal and Norda.

Big fan of nnormal. Every model uses the vibram megagrip

Have you tried Nnormal? They're a really narrow fit, tried them recently. I think someone posted here their Nnormals and they had aged pretty well.

The NNormal shoes are designed to be durable and I'm up to around 700 miles (1100km) on my Tomir 2.0s. The soles are designed to be replaced (stitched on instead of just glued), but there's nobody in my country certified to do it. But the upper and midsole still feel fine to me.

It really depands what you are looking for. If you want a shoe that is durable, then go for an NNormal--they are extremely durable. Similair to Altras, they have a thin and hard sole. It is especially incredible for downhill running, better than any other shoe I've ever ran with. The only downside is, that it isn't that fast in the flat, but it can still win UTMB and Sierre-Zianal.

I ordered these and can confirm they run at least a half size too big. For me I actually sized down one full size when i exchanged. But the fit remained very odd and I was unable to keep them. They did seem like very high quality shoes though if you manage to have them fit you. (edit: wrote "two sizes" when i meant "two half sizes". fixed)

I don’t think Speedland is any more durable than Nnormal or Norda. They are all durable, but I would rank them from most to least durable: Norda, Nnormal, Speedland. I have had all three. Speedlands grip is very poor compared to Norda and Nnormal.