NNormal - Tomir 02 Gore-Tex Shoe

Got these and the new Tomir 02 NN (straight laces) yesterday. Only used them for two walks in the forest (some short running to test as well) to get a feeling of them / trying to dial in lacing etc. The midsole is really great, and has a lot of bounce, but I think that with my weight these won't be shoes for the long distances, even with the increased stack. Definitely more volume in toe box compared to Kjerag 01 (or just a more forgiving upper?), which I couldn't buy because they were -too- tight for me over the arch. When I tried on the Kjerag 01 I had to size up a full size for them to fit at all, and even then it was slightly uncomfortable. Almost two thumbs width of spare length in the front is just not doable. With the Kjerag 02 I only sized up half a size, which is what I often have to due to slightly wider feed than average. I find the shoes to be slightly longer than I prefer for me feet, but that's about it.

Love the Nnormal approach of Kilian: Love the scarpa mosquito for approach, scrambling and such, but will switch to use the Tomir 02 for all hiking, scrambling, Trailrunning short of actual rock climbing in the future As some commenter on YouTube said „the best 45min ad I’ve ever watched“: https://www.nnormal.com/en_DE/content/sketching-the-future?srsltid=AfmBOooCdmAyT4StW5dskYBVrsiNaOACL36fxVuitMFFSm6WIU4ZO4LW

I have been enjoying the Tomir 2 gore tex recently for snowy runs, the 5mm lugs have been perfect and feet have stayed dry. I think they have an 8mm drop tho.

It's hard to say for certain without knowing more about you, so I'd say go to a running store first. But for me the NNormal Tomir 2 are the absolute best trail shoes I've ever ran in : super comfortable, good grip on rough terrain, and super durable. Had mine for a bit less than 800km and they show absolutely no sign of slowing down. Can't recommend enough!

I like the mud as well but the high alpine is closed until June! Love the NNormal, these are the Tomir 2, didn't really like the first model which had a weird-ish fit but these are my favorite trail shoes ever. Super comfortable with great durability. I have 800+km on them now and feel like they can keep going for at least 1/3 more. Only shoe as durable I've owned were an older model of Brooks Cascadia that are now long gone.

YMMV, and what works for someone might not work for someone else. Ideally go to a shop and try several models before taking a decision. That being said, have a look at NNormal Tomir GTX, they are waterproof and have great traction in snow thanks to the Vibram sole, as well as being some of the comfiest/most durable shoes I've owned.

I had a few pairs of Hokas and enjoyed them but durability is a major issue. Same thing with Salomon really. My only durable shoe in the pas has been a pair of Brooks Cascadia. Today I've moved on to NNormal Tomir 02 and I find much more comfort, grip and durability than Hokas - just a thought! On to my third pair!

I find the Tomir more comfortable tbh. Ive yet to run each shoe to death so idk which will last longer but they both seem durable

Hope they work well for you and I think they should last, I have speedgoats with about the same miles as the Tomir and the Tomir is holding up much better. My other tip for that shoe is that it has the asymmetric laces which were weird for me at first but you can get them really tight over your foot without pain and get great lockdown that way

Haha I am also rocking Tomirs and love em. My last run I also realized I was tracing Tomir footprints down the trail so word is getting out lol. But yeah I really enjoyed the SG’s for right about the first 100km and then it felt like the foam suddenly packed out hard and started shooting a ton of force into my knees and shins causing some legit pain and I immediately retired them. The Tomirs took me awhile to break in and I hated them at first but suddenly around 50km it was the shoe molded to my foot and they’ve been close to perfect ever since with a few hundred miles on em now. The casual/fashion outdoors crowd seems to have just discovered Nnormal tho so stock up while you can lol

I like my tomirs, but the lugs aren't spaced out and deep enough for mud at this time of year out on the hills. You'll be sliding all over the place. If your primary use case is mud and soft ground, I'd recommend inov8 mudtalons. Designed literally for what you're looking for.

I found the toe box on the Kjerag and Tommirs really tight fitting as well. I just use my Kjerags for short and fast fell races. Anything over 90 mins and they're too uncomfortable.

Nnormal Tomir - you feel everything but also don’t feel anything, they are great!

I have been really impressed with Nnormal. I have yet to try the Kjerags but have two pairs of Tomirs, which I absolutely adore! They somehow cushion the sharp rocks and roots and yet still allow you to feel everything! I have a narrow foot so have not had any issues with them and do size down a half size like you suggested. I would recommend them to anyone looking to try something new.

I have two pairs of Nnormal Tomirs and love them! You feel the trail perfectly, but also feel like you’re floating at the same time, they are great!

I have well over 200 miles in my pair, including many 20-30 mile runs. They were a bit narrower than the Peregrines, which was already snug for me. I thought it needed at least another eyelet for the laces and the one piece tongue and collar had a bit of a sloppy fit. Cranking the laces a bit and heel lock lacing helped. Cushioning-wise, felt somewhere between the Peregrine and Xodus Ultra 2. Underfoot protection from rocks was adequate. Traction was good and I liked that there was a lot of outsole material since I had a tendency to lose some outsole chunks in the Rifts, Xodus, and Endorphin Edge. Overall, I thought they were solid and I wish there was an update to address some of the common weak areas people pointed out. Currently running in the Nnormal Tomir 2.

Thanks for this! This helps in comparing the various shoes out there. I do lean towards a general purpose shoe and would use the Tomir 2 for most of my runs.

I have 200 miles on the Tomir 2s and a few runs in the Mount to Coast T1. For me, the Tomir 2s are durable medium stack shoes for runs up to around 20 miles-marathon and do uphills well. The T1s are high cushion (but not max) light, and fast. T1 cushioning is softer than Tomir 2's but not overly so like in a road shoe. I haven't used the T1 enough to say anything on durability. I like them both but they don't overlap as much in category. If I had to pick 1 I would go for the T1 because I prefer a higher stack/cushion

There isn't a best because user preferences and characteristics vary so you really gotta try them. Even then, some shoes fit and perform notably differently when new vs when you have 50 miles in them. I like the Peregrines but go for the Endorphin Edge and Rift when I want more cushioning and the Nnormal Tomir 2 when I want better grip. My Peregrines have nearly 250 miles of very rough terrain on them so they're about toast.

A lot of the things that make trail runners an attractive option also make them less durable. Comfortable, breathable uppers so often using mesh with minimal/no over/underlays. Midsole cushioning for running so they're softer but will pack down sooner. Light weight so brands are cutting materials out and giving you less outsole coverage and shorter outsole lugs. But to your point there's a lot of variation there. My NNormal Tomir 2 are around 300 miles, on track to hit 400+ easily assuming normal use. Upper is in good condition, notably better than most trail shoes I've used. Midsole started out a bit firm but has softened to a good sweet spot and has held up so far. Outsole started with good coverage and tall lugs, relatively light wear despite a lot of hard packed very rocky miles and above tree line stuff. The outsole could last beyond 500 miles for me. Main cons are the cost/availability, fit, and maybe the medium-stack no rock plate nature of it. I ordered it online, otherwise would have to drive a long way to try it and the store wouldn't respond to me. I have wide feet, Altra and Topo fit me the best. The Tomir 2 felt narrow at first, took some time for it to stretch out and for the insole to flatten to allow room. Also have to wear thin socks with it, toe socks for example would not work for me. Lastly, it is a medium-stack ish shoe when considering other shoes in its weight and stack height like the Peregrine. I'm fine hiking all day in them, but I also run a lot of trails. If you're not running often and are used to the Olympus for example, the Tomir is gonna be harsh for a little while and you'll want to get some practice/training in before your Yosemite High Route trip.

I have >200 miles in my Tomir 2s. Typically ran Saucony Peregrine, Xodus Ultra 1-2, Endorphin Edge and Rift, and now Mount to Coast T1. I'm fine in technical terrain with the Tomir 2, don't feel like I'm working extra hard to speed up like I do with the Xodus Ultras and Speedgoats, and definitely high marks for durability, I put a rougher 200+ miles on them and look way better than my other shoes with 200+ of miles in the exact same places. Comfort for longer distance may have a bigger subjective component. I'm fine out to marathon and 50K in them as long as there isn't more than a few hours of technical stuff or if I can at least maneuver around to avoid sharp things all the time. If it's above treeline and I can't avoid sharp rocks then 30km is probably my limit. However if you did technical 50+ milers with the Keraj then yes the Tomir is probably fine.

I usually have 2-3 pairs on rotation: 1 pair of road shoes and up to 2 pairs of trail shoes with one being speed/hill and up to medium distance and the other general purpose to long distance. Not so much rotation as purpose/application. I've had a decrease in joint issues in injuries in general over time but hard to say how much of it is due to my shoe rotation vs other things like carefully managing my weekly volume and intensity, strength training, and just accumulating benefits over time. My favorite road shoes are probably the Saucony Endorphin Speed since it's relatively light, well cushioned, but adequately stiff and fast feeling so I can use it for all my road running. Favorite trail shoes at the moment are the Nnormal Tomir 2s. Great traction, relatively light for a medium shoe, and a decent balance of cushioning and feeling fast. Feels ok on roads and has a lot of outsole to absorb those road miles. Often parking a mile or longer away since my trails are extremely busy sometimes.

I have >200 miles in my Nnormal Tomir 2s, spanning short steep runs to 20 mile runs with >5,000 feet of climbing at altitude. Previously ran in Saucony Xodus Ultra, Endorphin Edge, and Endorphin (g)rift. Traction and durability on the Tomir 2 are great. They are on the firm side, even with the mileage I put on them so far, and lean on fast feeling given my previous shoes. I would want more underfoot cushioning for anything beyond a marathon or 50K. To me, these are medium generalist leaning shoes, great for racking up miles and training. Fit was a touch too narrow at first, I have wide feet. Took around 50 miles for the insole to pack down and the upper to stretch and flex a bit. Fits comfortably snug now. For the long stuff I am using the Mount to Coast T1. Comfortable fit for my toes, good underfoot cushioning, yet light and fast enough that I don't feel like I'm working too hard when running uphill or picking up the pace. I have ~80 miles on them so far, really just a few long runs, they're great. Durability looks good but need to take them out to at least 200 to say more. If these still look good after 300 miles I would switch completely to them and not get another pair of the Tomir 2s.

As always it’s very personal depending on how well the shoe fits my feet and the terrain I’m running in (technical mountains, mud, rocky). I like sky running races around 20-30k and VK’s. Sometimes short road races from 5k to Half Marathon. Current rotation: - Merrell Long Sky 2 Matryx. Great allrounder. - VJ Ultra 3. Cushion. Great for easy and long runs. - NNormal Kjerag Brut (mud) - Salomon Aero Glide 3 (road and treadmill) Recently retired shoes: - Nnormal Kjerag 1. Fast but too small lugs to have good grip in mud/loose debris. Too little cushion for me. Kjerag 2 has more cushion but same outsole. - Nnormal Tomir 2. Great allrounder but didn’t fit my feet (too little big toe space). A bit heavy when wet because the insole keeps a lot of water. - Salomon S/lab Genesis. Great allrounder but worse grip on wet rocks than Vibram Megagrip and VJ. - VJ Maxx 2. Really good allrounder. But didn’t fit my feet (too little big toe space). Shoes I’m considering next: - La Sportiva Prodigio Pro - Merrell MTL Adapt Matryx - Merrell Skyfire 2 Matryx

I currently have about 7 pairs in rotation but four of those are road shoes and they’re getting minimal use as I’ve been doing trail almost exclusively lately. Saucony exodus ultras do well road to trail, I’m only warming up about 1K to get to the trail though. nnormal tomir 2 on the trails/racing are amazballs…especially in mud and snow and some zero drop topo for a strength change. Mostly new balance plateless road shoes and a pair of mizuno neo vistas for training over 25K on the road.