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I have been enjoying the Tomir 2 gore tex recently for snowy runs, the 5mm lugs have been perfect and feet have stayed dry. I think they have an 8mm drop tho.
Nnormal Tomir comes in a tall waterproof model.
I feel you there, I have a pair of the Tomir ankle high waterproof shoes for clomping around in the snow and snowshoe running, but they don't fit my narrow feet well enough to be a normal running shoe.
Nnormal Tomirs are a great shoe for mud, wet rocks, and snow. I'd look for something with a vibram outsole (or VJ shoes), they're consistently among the best performing.
YMMV, and what works for someone might not work for someone else. Ideally go to a shop and try several models before taking a decision. That being said, have a look at NNormal Tomir GTX, they are waterproof and have great traction in snow thanks to the Vibram sole, as well as being some of the comfiest/most durable shoes I've owned.
It's hard to say for certain without knowing more about you, so I'd say go to a running store first. But for me the NNormal Tomir 2 are the absolute best trail shoes I've ever ran in : super comfortable, good grip on rough terrain, and super durable. Had mine for a bit less than 800km and they show absolutely no sign of slowing down. Can't recommend enough!
I like the mud as well but the high alpine is closed until June! Love the NNormal, these are the Tomir 2, didn't really like the first model which had a weird-ish fit but these are my favorite trail shoes ever. Super comfortable with great durability. I have 800+km on them now and feel like they can keep going for at least 1/3 more. Only shoe as durable I've owned were an older model of Brooks Cascadia that are now long gone.
I had a few pairs of Hokas and enjoyed them but durability is a major issue. Same thing with Salomon really. My only durable shoe in the pas has been a pair of Brooks Cascadia. Today I've moved on to NNormal Tomir 02 and I find much more comfort, grip and durability than Hokas - just a thought! On to my third pair!
NNormal Tomir are what you're looking for! Super durable for mountainous terrain, with a great Vibram outsole and insane grip.
for mixed terrain like that, i’d lean trabuco 14 or tomir 2 since both handle rocks and mud pretty well without feeling too bulky. max 5 is softer but a bit much for technical trails.
I'm 100kgs and I normally split my running between the Norda 005, Salomon S/Lab Genesis, Hoka Tecton X3 and Nnormal Tomir 2. I don't tend to train in the X3, but I think I will use them for my upcoming 100km races next year. I haven't had durability issues with any of these shoes.
I have 200 miles on the Tomir 2s and a few runs in the Mount to Coast T1. For me, the Tomir 2s are durable medium stack shoes for runs up to around 20 miles-marathon and do uphills well. The T1s are high cushion (but not max) light, and fast. T1 cushioning is softer than Tomir 2's but not overly so like in a road shoe. I haven't used the T1 enough to say anything on durability. I like them both but they don't overlap as much in category. If I had to pick 1 I would go for the T1 because I prefer a higher stack/cushion
A lot of the things that make trail runners an attractive option also make them less durable. Comfortable, breathable uppers so often using mesh with minimal/no over/underlays. Midsole cushioning for running so they're softer but will pack down sooner. Light weight so brands are cutting materials out and giving you less outsole coverage and shorter outsole lugs. But to your point there's a lot of variation there. My NNormal Tomir 2 are around 300 miles, on track to hit 400+ easily assuming normal use. Upper is in good condition, notably better than most trail shoes I've used. Midsole started out a bit firm but has softened to a good sweet spot and has held up so far. Outsole started with good coverage and tall lugs, relatively light wear despite a lot of hard packed very rocky miles and above tree line stuff. The outsole could last beyond 500 miles for me. Main cons are the cost/availability, fit, and maybe the medium-stack no rock plate nature of it. I ordered it online, otherwise would have to drive a long way to try it and the store wouldn't respond to me. I have wide feet, Altra and Topo fit me the best. The Tomir 2 felt narrow at first, took some time for it to stretch out and for the insole to flatten to allow room. Also have to wear thin socks with it, toe socks for example would not work for me. Lastly, it is a medium-stack ish shoe when considering other shoes in its weight and stack height like the Peregrine. I'm fine hiking all day in them, but I also run a lot of trails. If you're not running often and are used to the Olympus for example, the Tomir is gonna be harsh for a little while and you'll want to get some practice/training in before your Yosemite High Route trip.
I have >200 miles in my Tomir 2s. Typically ran Saucony Peregrine, Xodus Ultra 1-2, Endorphin Edge and Rift, and now Mount to Coast T1. I'm fine in technical terrain with the Tomir 2, don't feel like I'm working extra hard to speed up like I do with the Xodus Ultras and Speedgoats, and definitely high marks for durability, I put a rougher 200+ miles on them and look way better than my other shoes with 200+ of miles in the exact same places. Comfort for longer distance may have a bigger subjective component. I'm fine out to marathon and 50K in them as long as there isn't more than a few hours of technical stuff or if I can at least maneuver around to avoid sharp things all the time. If it's above treeline and I can't avoid sharp rocks then 30km is probably my limit. However if you did technical 50+ milers with the Keraj then yes the Tomir is probably fine.
I have >200 miles in my Nnormal Tomir 2s, spanning short steep runs to 20 mile runs with >5,000 feet of climbing at altitude. Previously ran in Saucony Xodus Ultra, Endorphin Edge, and Endorphin (g)rift. Traction and durability on the Tomir 2 are great. They are on the firm side, even with the mileage I put on them so far, and lean on fast feeling given my previous shoes. I would want more underfoot cushioning for anything beyond a marathon or 50K. To me, these are medium generalist leaning shoes, great for racking up miles and training. Fit was a touch too narrow at first, I have wide feet. Took around 50 miles for the insole to pack down and the upper to stretch and flex a bit. Fits comfortably snug now. For the long stuff I am using the Mount to Coast T1. Comfortable fit for my toes, good underfoot cushioning, yet light and fast enough that I don't feel like I'm working too hard when running uphill or picking up the pace. I have ~80 miles on them so far, really just a few long runs, they're great. Durability looks good but need to take them out to at least 200 to say more. If these still look good after 300 miles I would switch completely to them and not get another pair of the Tomir 2s.
Check out the Nnormal Tomir 2. They were a little stiff out of the box but loosen up nicely around 50 or so miles. Cushioning is on the firm side but comfortable for longer sessions. Outsole lugs are sticky and a good height so they will last a while. I have >200 miles in my pair, should get to ~350-400 which is pretty good for my trails since most of my previous shoes struggled to get to 250-300. Tomir 2 is pricey out of the box but given its lifetime you should end up with a similar dollar to mile ratio.
I have liked the Normal Tomir 2's I did buy the speedboat 2's though and they are still my favorite speedgoat
Hey, I got into some fun spicy bits on Buet! Though not my favorite running shoes the Tomir 2.0s were solid there. La Sportiva is another I like on granite. Honestly I like what you have. If only VJs were comfortable (for me).
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