Tomir 02 Gore-Tex Shoe

I have been enjoying the Tomir 2 gore tex recently for snowy runs, the 5mm lugs have been perfect and feet have stayed dry. I think they have an 8mm drop tho.

Nnormal Tomir comes in a tall waterproof model.

I feel you there, I have a pair of the Tomir ankle high waterproof shoes for clomping around in the snow and snowshoe running, but they don't fit my narrow feet well enough to be a normal running shoe.

Nnormal Tomirs are a great shoe for mud, wet rocks, and snow. I'd look for something with a vibram outsole (or VJ shoes), they're consistently among the best performing.

YMMV, and what works for someone might not work for someone else. Ideally go to a shop and try several models before taking a decision. That being said, have a look at NNormal Tomir GTX, they are waterproof and have great traction in snow thanks to the Vibram sole, as well as being some of the comfiest/most durable shoes I've owned.

It's hard to say for certain without knowing more about you, so I'd say go to a running store first. But for me the NNormal Tomir 2 are the absolute best trail shoes I've ever ran in : super comfortable, good grip on rough terrain, and super durable. Had mine for a bit less than 800km and they show absolutely no sign of slowing down. Can't recommend enough!

I like the mud as well but the high alpine is closed until June! Love the NNormal, these are the Tomir 2, didn't really like the first model which had a weird-ish fit but these are my favorite trail shoes ever. Super comfortable with great durability. I have 800+km on them now and feel like they can keep going for at least 1/3 more. Only shoe as durable I've owned were an older model of Brooks Cascadia that are now long gone.

I had a few pairs of Hokas and enjoyed them but durability is a major issue. Same thing with Salomon really. My only durable shoe in the pas has been a pair of Brooks Cascadia. Today I've moved on to NNormal Tomir 02 and I find much more comfort, grip and durability than Hokas - just a thought! On to my third pair!

NNormal Tomir are what you're looking for! Super durable for mountainous terrain, with a great Vibram outsole and insane grip.

**Shoes**: you can absolutely spend less (long term) by spending more once, as some brands last a lot more kms/miles than others. Don't cheap out on this as it will also help prevent injuries and will make you enjoy running more. Try some models in the store. From my experience, higher-end brands like NNormal are worth it as the shoes like 2x longer than most brands. **Vests**: highly personal. I have an expensive one that I hate and my friend who has the same swears by it. I think you can cheap out a bit more here until you figure out what you like. **Watches**: someone just broke the marathon's world record by using a 2022 mid-range Garmin (FR255) - make of that what you will :)

Well I run on anything from forest floor to the high mountains, super technical and rocky terrain in summer and maybe less so in winter.  NNormal are really well made overall and I’m reaching 1000km on a pair where both the Vibram sole and the upper and stitching are still completely good to go. 

I‘m unfortunately also very prone to ankle rolls. That’s we many shoes are out of question for me already when I do a slight roll test while standing in them. The NNormal shoes work fine for me except the Kjerag 2. I sent them back after standing in them. What works for me is: - Kjerag - Tomir 1 - Tomir 2 (best) - Tomir 2 NN (feels harder) - Cadí (my new favorite) I‘m personally very impressed by the durability. I had to retire most shoes at the 400km mark. With Salomon Sense Ultra, already the last 100k from 300k upwards were bad. On the Tomirs, I could do 1000k. However, the last 200k were merely fillers because I wanted to reach the 1000k mark. I‘ve never before ran in shoes >500km and I have >80 pairs of shoes tracked in my strava.

Yes, consistent sizing throughout the line. I‘d say durability as a whole. With Salomon (my other go to) I kill the outsole after 300k and also the midsole starts to give. The NNormals were consistent good in all respects. Even pairs used in races didn’t look terrible on the upper. Of course, after 700k it wasn’t a fresh shoe of course but still fully functional. With Salomon, the upper started to give too, especially with shoes I raced in (>100k trail ultras). My theory is that the salt from sweating during race efforts weakens the upper. Disclaimer: i got my Cadi only recently and only ran about 250k in them, so I can’t comment on the durability yet.

Well, they are a lot softer. More gentle cushioning and midsole and also less sturdy upper. They come with a vibram outsole and the grip is the same as with Tomir /Kjerag. I think the shoe is positioned as a more gentle training trail shoe with the less "professional" athlete in mind. After my first run in the Cadí  I was wondering whether NNormal deliberately made Tomit 2.0 NN harder to have a clearer product differentiation to the Cadí  (my guess). The Cadí  come at a slightly lower price point too.

I‘m unfortunately also very prone to ankle rolls. That’s we many shoes are out of question for me already when I do a slight roll test while standing in them. The NNormal shoes work fine for me except the Kjerag 2. I sent them back after standing in them. What works for me is: - Kjerag - Tomir 1 - Tomir 2 (best) - Tomir 2 NN (feels harder) - Cadí (my new favorite) I‘m personally very impressed by the durability. I had to retire most shoes at the 400km mark. With Salomon Sense Ultra, already the last 100k from 300k upwards were bad. On the Tomirs, I could do 1000k. However, the last 200k were merely fillers because I wanted to reach the 1000k mark. I‘ve never before ran in shoes >500km and I have >80 pairs of shoes tracked in my strava.

Yes, consistent sizing throughout the line. I‘d say durability as a whole. With Salomon (my other go to) I kill the outsole after 300k and also the midsole starts to give. The NNormals were consistent good in all respects. Even pairs used in races didn’t look terrible on the upper. Of course, after 700k it wasn’t a fresh shoe of course but still fully functional. With Salomon, the upper started to give too, especially with shoes I raced in (>100k trail ultras). My theory is that the salt from sweating during race efforts weakens the upper. Disclaimer: i got my Cadi only recently and only ran about 250k in them, so I can’t comment on the durability yet.

Well, they are a lot softer. More gentle cushioning and midsole and also less sturdy upper. They come with a vibram outsole and the grip is the same as with Tomir /Kjerag. I think the shoe is positioned as a more gentle training trail shoe with the less "professional" athlete in mind. After my first run in the Cadí  I was wondering whether NNormal deliberately made Tomit 2.0 NN harder to have a clearer product differentiation to the Cadí  (my guess). The Cadí  come at a slightly lower price point too.

for mixed terrain like that, i’d lean trabuco 14 or tomir 2 since both handle rocks and mud pretty well without feeling too bulky. max 5 is softer but a bit much for technical trails.