NNormal - Tomir 2.0

I can second the Norda sentiment and I’ll add that the Nnormal Tomir is also super tough. They both have vibram megagrip but more importantly they have a solid sole. Skip the sectioned soles with exposed foam. Both gear shoes run hot though and I can’t do either in the Texas summer.

Oh and I’ll add that the Nnormal tomir 2.0 has been an amazing workhorse, nearly 400 miles in them and the midsole and lugs are still great under my forefoot which I usually blow through the quickest. I used them for a 60k and hated them but I’ve used them successfully for runs up to 15 miles which is usually the farthest I’ll go before I start using my race day shoes to get used to those. I’m 175 pounds for context.

Doesn’t fit my foot so well but damn they’re built to last. I’ll also say the the Nnormal tomir2.0 is also an amazing shoe, over 300 miles on them and I’ll probably get another 300 out of them. Legit amazing shoe although neither of these are particularly breathable.

450 is unicorn level for altras. Topos last longer in my experience but I’ve only worn the pursuit. If you’re open to other styles of shoes then I would look into a matryx upper. It’s really breathable and extremely strong. The Nnormal Tomir 2.0 has also been amazing for me. It’s not as breathable as I’d like but they’ve got 400 miles on them and definitely have another 200-400 in them.

Love the way the 001s feel but don’t work great for narrower/lower volume feet, lockdown is an issue. Went a 1/2 size up in the 001 and seems spot on. Tried my typical size in the 002 and it’s too small so I just ordered a 1/2 size up. Side wall stuff came unglued fairly quick, I used seam glue on them and it’s kinda holding up. Definitely go for a stitched one like mentioned before. heel cup has given friends issues with rubbing but not for me. After about 60-80 miles they feel like they soften up a bit. If you want a softer ride I can’t recommend the Nnormal Tomir 2.0 enough. 400+ miles and still doing great.

My only quarrel with them is they don’t breath great but that’s the same issue as norda. I’ve done a majority of my training in the tomir through the winter and they’ve been fantastic. Once the heat and humidity sink in I rarely reach for them. I prefer a more minimal shoe anyways but I like to mix it up just to keep the feet healthy.

I actually find that making sure you have a good fit around ankle and midfoot does more to 'save your toes', especially where moving forward downhill is an issue. For example, I recently discounted the Nnormal Tomir due to excessive forward slip, even when trying on. I've never experienced excessive 'swelling' in the forefoot per se either. Does it actually happen to you? My only consideration in forefoot is width to splay, and then a thumbs width gap at the end of the toes. I do have a slim ankle/midfoot so getting a shoe that doesn't move around has been difficult at times, as I always need mine to feel more like a running shoe than a specific 'ultra' shoe. The best one recently is the Salomon Genesis, as well as the La Sportiva Prodigio. Proper locked in feel at the back, comfy in the front.

I have >150 miles in the Tomir 2.0 and previously ran in the Xodus Ultra 1 and 2, and Peregrine 13. Also >500 miles in 2 pairs of the Endorphin Edge. Typically run on hard packed rocky trails. First 50-70 or so miles in the Tomir 2.0 felt a bit narrow in the forefoot/toebox. Not a big issue for short runs, moderately uncomfortable for longer runs. Loosening the laces helped a bit. After 70 miles, the insole has packed down and the upper fabric has loosened so they are generally fine for me on longer runs. I know it's not a case of my feet acclimating to being squeezed because my road shoes were squeezing my feet the whole time until I replaced them recently with the wider Mount to Coast R1. I've done several 20+ mile >4,000 foot runs in the Tomir 2.0 with some moderately technical sections, no width related issues anymore. The cushioning is on the firm side and took some getting used to. Endorphin Edge generally felt like a straight upgrade to the Xodus, lighter and faster feeling at higher paces. Some reviewers reported stability issues but I suspect it's due to (1) the Endorphin Edge being too wide for people who run in Hokas and Nikes, (2) high/max stack, and (3) the Endorphin Edge's plate. In my use, I had to slow down slightly on the looser and more technical downhills particularly when making turns but was notably faster with less effort and more comfort everywhere else. Main downside is that it's a struggle for me to get 300 miles out of a pair because the outsole peeled where the cutouts are, and that the outsole material itself doesn't flex well so I've lost chunks of outsole. It was worth the money when on sale but might be harder to find now. I just pre ordered the Mount to Coast T1 and am hoping it will be a good ultra shoe for me. I've had their R1 road shoes for some time and it fits and runs well for me.

You could use the same shoe for trails, hikes, and easier/moderate scrambling but I would strongly recommend separate shoes for road. Roads will eat up trail shoe outsole lugs/tread and when they are worn smooth, you lose much of the traction you'd need for trails so they end up being heavier road shoes. La Spotiva Mutant has been ok but it is heavy for a trail shoe. Don't know exactly how wide your feet are, Altras and Topos fit my feet best but the Nnormal Tomir 2.0 has been good after breaking it in over 50-70 miles. Lots of outsole lugs, durable upper and midsole.

I have ~100 miles in the Tomir 2 and ran extensively in the Endorphin Edge, Peregrine, Xodus Ultra, and Speedgoat. For me, the Tomir 2.0 is most like the Peregrine but with better traction. I wouldn't use the Peregrine in anything over a marathon and ditto with the Tomir 2.0. The main selling point of the Tomir 2 to me is better traction and overall shoe life (remains to be seen) since my Peregrines were done after 270 miles on my usual rocky trails. Of these, I like the Endorphin Edge the most and used it for my recent races and long runs. Outsole life and traction need improvement though, I've straight up lost chunks of outsole.

I have well over 200 miles in my pair, including many 20-30 mile runs. They were a bit narrower than the Peregrines, which was already snug for me. I thought it needed at least another eyelet for the laces and the one piece tongue and collar had a bit of a sloppy fit. Cranking the laces a bit and heel lock lacing helped. Cushioning-wise, felt somewhere between the Peregrine and Xodus Ultra 2. Underfoot protection from rocks was adequate. Traction was good and I liked that there was a lot of outsole material since I had a tendency to lose some outsole chunks in the Rifts, Xodus, and Endorphin Edge. Overall, I thought they were solid and I wish there was an update to address some of the common weak areas people pointed out. Currently running in the Nnormal Tomir 2.

Thanks for this! This helps in comparing the various shoes out there. I do lean towards a general purpose shoe and would use the Tomir 2 for most of my runs.

I have 200 miles on the Tomir 2s and a few runs in the Mount to Coast T1. For me, the Tomir 2s are durable medium stack shoes for runs up to around 20 miles-marathon and do uphills well. The T1s are high cushion (but not max) light, and fast. T1 cushioning is softer than Tomir 2's but not overly so like in a road shoe. I haven't used the T1 enough to say anything on durability. I like them both but they don't overlap as much in category. If I had to pick 1 I would go for the T1 because I prefer a higher stack/cushion

Nnormal Tomir 2.0 is worth a look. They perform super well (east coast US and some time in the French Alps here, with some fast technical efforts), more midsole than the Kjerag, and as a light/medium runner they feel better suited to someone carrying more weight than I.

I have both these shoes. The Tomir 2.0 provides a firmer platform and better grip. The Rift has a much more forgiving midsole and toe box. I also enjoy the rocker on the Rift, but that's very much a personal preference. Honestly I like both. For very rocky/technical terrain I'd lean Nnormal for the protection it affords, but beyond that I'd suggest to someone to go with what's more comfortable.

Nnormal tomir 2.0

You can also have these puppies resoled…just picked up the tomir 2.0 for this very reason.

I run in the Nnormal Tomir. I call them my ultra tractors. Its not an exciting shoe, but excells in grip. The outsole is by far the strongest element of this shoe. It'll work in mud just fine. I've thrown everything from Dutch winter mud to Alpine mountains at them and the grip is excellent everywhere. I don't know the Saucony shoe so no comment there.

My Hierro v7 were pretty great (V8 has ruined them). Now onto nnormal tomir which for me is excellent.

I am running in xodus ultra 3s (mostly) right now. They’re comfortable enough but don’t exactly make you feel like you’re getting anywhere fast. Nnormal Tomir 2.0 are probably my favorite shoes, but the toebox is a bit too narrow for me and I was getting blisters on my toes. I still wear them for runs lads than 18k-ish.

I recently got a deal on the Tomir 2s, not for me. They have a 8 or 9 mm drop, which I don’t mind. The problem I had was I couldn’t keep my foot secure on downhills. I’ve read others have this issue too. My foot would slide forward on any steepish decline. Tried a variety of lacing techniques, no luck. If you want something with padding and lowish drop, hoka speedgoats might be a good bet. Or if you’re looking for something with padding but more stable than a hoka, the xodus ultra lineup.

I love the Nnormal Tomir 2.0. I was having sizing trouble with every shoe I own, so I took a chance and wore them out of the box for a Grand Canyon R3 and they were amazing. No blisters, no hotspots, no issues whatsoever. I wish they had a wider toe box but it’s impossible to find a shoe with close to their 8 mm drop and the flatter insole with no cupping or built in arch. My only reservation with the MtC T1 is the 4mm drop, but I’m excited to try them anyway. As popular as Altra shoes are, I’m surprised no one has made a higher drop trail runner with a wide toolbox.

I really really wanted to love my Nnormal Tomir 2.0. They’re tighter in the toe box than I usually like but that turned out fine because I’ve been running in some very short steep hills lately and my feet felt locked in and stable. The tongue of the shoe has a very stiff edge. It wasn’t that noticeable on shorter 5-8 mile runs, but then when I used them on a 20 mile long run, they shredded my socks and bruised both my ankles and cut one of them open. I’ve never had anything like that happen with any other shoes, never had any discomfort or rubbing from a shoe tongue like that before.

For the tomir 2, the toebox felt slightly too narrow for me at first. Relacing the shoe to skip the first eyelet row fixed it for me. I get a good lockdown and have 0 problems on descents

Tomir 2 feels great on roads despite the 5mm lugs which was surprising to me

I like my tomirs, but the lugs aren't spaced out and deep enough for mud at this time of year out on the hills. You'll be sliding all over the place. If your primary use case is mud and soft ground, I'd recommend inov8 mudtalons. Designed literally for what you're looking for.

I found the toe box on the Kjerag and Tommirs really tight fitting as well. I just use my Kjerags for short and fast fell races. Anything over 90 mins and they're too uncomfortable.

Ditto. Love my pairs

Tomir 2.0 is fantastic if it fits your foot. Bouncy, great grip, versatile, durable.

Same. Tried them after getting fed up with Hoka’s shit, and I ain’t going back…

I personally like them a lot. Waaaaay more durable than the Hoka’s, and the shape is better for me (personally) too. They’re definitely stiffer/more responsive and less cushioned than the speedgoats, for example, but it hasn’t been a problem for me at all. The lugs are also a lot more serious - I typically prefer the Tomirs for muddy/slippery conditions. If it’s dry, I reach for the Kjerags. But Tomir is the go-to for swamp conditions.

Nnormal Tomir 2 are my all-arounders

The Hoka Mafate Speed 4 Lite x Satisfy wrecked my heels the first time I used them. Tore my skin up good and took like 10 days to heal. Surprisingly, they are nice now and have been enjoying them. Nike Zegama 2 is my jam as well and I’ve been rotating in the Nnormal Tomir 2.0

Not much grip and I found the foam to be unstable. Sold mine. I'd get Tomir 2 or Mafate 4.

The Goats don’t have a very deep lug pattern and the upper is quite breathable, so they’re not the best shoe for muddy conditions. The Speedcross are many folks’ preferred mud shoe, but I wear the Nnormal Tomir 2 when I’m headed into the soup. They aren’t my favorite overall but they’re great for the purpose.

My Tomir 2 definitely softened up! I use them exclusively for runs in the mud.

Personally I like the T1 the most out of the 3. Tomir 2 are comfy but the laces are too thin and feels more like crunch than cushion on certain terrain and the rocker is just a bit too forward for comfortable paces. Norda 001 have the best lacing fit for that I’ve ever experienced on a trail shoe, but the midsole is hard and jarring on long runs. Mount to Coast T1 are much softer and bouncier; they have a nice, wide toebox, and feel lighter than the Norda and Nnormal, but I found the dual laces to be far too long, so I tried tying a knot in the opposite end from the lace pull, but ended up swapping over to the laces instead.

Try the Nnormal Tomir 2!

Love the Nnormal approach of Kilian: Love the scarpa mosquito for approach, scrambling and such, but will switch to use the Tomir 02 for all hiking, scrambling, Trailrunning short of actual rock climbing in the future As some commenter on YouTube said „the best 45min ad I’ve ever watched“: https://www.nnormal.com/en_DE/content/sketching-the-future?srsltid=AfmBOooCdmAyT4StW5dskYBVrsiNaOACL36fxVuitMFFSm6WIU4ZO4LW

Some good suggestions already, I'll add Nnormal Tomir 2.0 which has 5mm lugs, but runs absolutely fine for a bit of road between trails

I've been running trails almost exclusively on the Tomir 2.0 for the past few months, I have about 300 miles on them. I love them. They fit my feet like they were designed for them and the grip is amazing, even on wet rocks and logs. They're worth trying on if you can find them, but they don't fit everyone's feet well.

Norda 002 Speedland GL:PDX and a pair of Nnormal Tormir's for fun.

Got a pair of Nnormal Tomir 2 a few weeks back, only done a few 20-25km in them so far but been great, plan a 45km 2500m vert test run in them next week to see how they stand up as not had much luck finding something that works for me so far

Have ran in 4 pairs of the 001, and also own pairs of the Kjerag 1.0 and Tomir 2.0. The Kjerag is obviously very thin, and will for the vast majority of people not be suitable for an ultra. I never really connected with the Tomir, feels a little stiff and like you’re a bit disconnected from the trail. Maybe the lug pattern throws me off a bit. Also the shoe look fantastic. The 001 is a very good shoe that will last for a long time. Wear and tear of the lugs are what will retire the shoes from technical trails, not a torn upper or dead midsole. I find the midsole not to be super springy for gravel roads or roads, but it is a trail shoe and that is where I want it to exceed. For me, it lands in that sweet spot where it’s quite cushioned for easy trails or gravel sections, but with a good ground feel for roots and rocks. The 001 does have some sidewall delamination issues if you often need to dry the shoes with heat, and also retains quite a bit of water as the dynema upper isn’t really perforated. That being said, I’ve ran more than 4000 km in the 001 and more often return home with wet than dry feet, and I would still recommend it. I also find that you can really dial in the lacing pretty precise, which I struggle with in the Prodigios

I currently have the tomir 2.0s and generally love them. They are a bit stiff for a running shoe, but I like that for more technical trails. While they are a bit narrow I feel like they really hug my feet, which helps they significantly on downhills (toes do not smash forward). The insoles that came with them were good, but I replaced with custom, even comfier now. I can do 20 miles without them getting uncomfortable, have done like 400 miles in them total and they are just starting to show a bit of wear. I feel like most trail runners are like running shoes that added hiking shoe features. Tomir 2 really feels like more of a true hybrid.

I also have wide feet, I wear topo athletic shoes religiously. However I purchased NNormal tomir’s and they surprisingly fit my wide feet well. I don’t know where you are from, but they might have a pair in a store for you to try! Best of luck OP

Retired my first pair of Nnormal Tomir’s at 1200km, mainly because the uppers started to loosen up. I’ve lost a small piece of one lug on a super technical race, but the tread could probably go for another 4-500km

My friend and I ran the whole trail a few weeks ago and both used trail runners: I wore the Arc'teryx Sylan and he had the Nnormal Tomir. We didn't have heavy packs, but I would not use hiking boots on the TCT given how warm the island is and how little technicality the trail has. Enjoy! [https://www.strava.com/activities/14782948235](https://www.strava.com/activities/14782948235)

Normal tomir 2 has insane grip

Question on tomir 2, I’ve just bought a pair, they are the right length (I don’t like a full thumb clearance or voluminous toe boxes), fit my wide mid foot really well, but I can feel my big toes against the toe bumper because of the shape of the toe box (tapered lateral side is no issue for my toes but the medial side is odd IMO when a straight toe line would suit most people) anyway I’ve seen varying reports of how the upper can loosen and mould to feet; some say it does this really well, others say it doesn’t really, what’s your take? I need them to give a millimetre here and there, not a lot and they would be awesome, but I need them to be an ultra shoe; 6+ hours, so if they stay like they currently are think it’ll cause me issues!

Great thanks, much appreciated. I think I’m going to return the tomir, I really don’t need another shoe that I can only take for 2/3 hours. Merrell shoes are one that actually fit me really well, the long sky 2 feels like a second skin on my foot but I think is going to be a little too snug for an ultra for me, but the new MTL adapt matryx fit brilliant in the shop, I just couldn’t bring myself to buy it at the time as I think it looks horrendous but going to have to get over myself as initial reviews are brilliant and think it’s exactly what I need!

I haven’t tried the Saucony, but the Tomir is one tank of a shoe. I wore them for a 9 day solo run/fast-pack over 370km in the Norwegian mountains through some gnarly shoe-chewing terrain. I wouldn’t say they still look brand new, but just slightly worn - most other models I own I would have had to throw away. I also didn’t get a single blister or hot spot, or any sign of trench foot, despite having wet muddy feet for 10-15 hours a day every day, I even stopped lubing my feet because it just didn't feel necessary. I also loved how the front protected my toes from sharp rocks. With that said, I didn’t quite love their grip on wet rock and mud - its not terrible, but the grip on my VJs and Inov8 is much better. Although the guy at the shop said the black vibram rubber holds better than the green one, no idea if that’s true (I have the green). Also its not at all a fast shoe, for races or faster workouts I would definitely go with something different.

I didn't think I would go for a road shoe. The desert is a tough place for shoes. Gaiters are a must, but the brand doesn't matter too much. I've had nice desert experiences with the Altra Olympus and the nnormal tomir. Both have enough cushion to keep rocks from smarting too much. Both are not narrow, so sinking into the sand shouldn't be too much of a worry. The Olympus is obviously wider, but the tomir has great lugs for loose terrain. Desert comes in many varieties. If you are going to spend most of your time on well maintained 2 track, road shoes might cut it. Otherwise, I'd definitely go for trail shoes.

I got the exact nnormals in London. My favorite shoe ever.

Lots of options regarding amount of stack/cushion, width, etc. but I would point out that there is a ton of slippery rock hopping and related bullshit, and i find Vibram megagrip or the La sportiva frixion outsoles, with a decent tread to be fairly essential for me. Sticky rubber is confidence inspiring and faster. My technical shoes of choice are La sportiva mutant or kaptiva, though I’d probably want a bit more cushion for the really long days. Nnormal Tomir is surprisingly nimble considering its comfort…

My NNormal Tomir 2.0s are roomy and it's a pretty comfy trail runner. Plus they're durable as all hell. I recommend them to everyone I know looking for new trail shows.

Fuckin LOVE my NNORMAL TOMIR 2.0s. Wore them for Leadville last year and they were an absolute tank.

Up to 9 models of trail shoe and still looking... La sportiva bushido (500+ mi): great shoe but not enough of a rocker and limited cushion for longer days. Salomon ultra glide (350 mi): great shoe but limited durability of midsole and not stable enough on varied terrain. Hoka speedgoat 5: loved this shoe but can only seem to get 300 mi out of the midsole before I notice significant decline (still brought 5 pairs of these to 300+) Hoka Mafate speed 4 (320+165mi): loved this shoe but a set or two of the eyelits are not reinforced and will eventually rip, and the toebox is too narrow for me and gives blisters on the outside of my big toes. Saucony peregrin 3 (150 mi): like this shoe but long days or steep ascents are too much and the heel counter gives blisters (disclaimer: I have bony heels). I wear this for shorter runs with some tech but not much steep uphill. Saucony xodus 1 (250 mi): like this shoe but doesn’t perform well on technical terrain in terms of stability and outsole-lugs sheered off on first technical downhill. I wear this for non technical trails. Altra lone peak 7 (300+ idk): like this shoe but just for non technical trails, Toe box is too wide to get a full lockdown. I use this shoe for hikes and walks on non technical terrain and it is the shoe i wear more than any other bc it is my daily shoe at work, where i am on my feet a few hours every day. Nnormal tormir 2 (200 mi): like this shoe but the lockdown doesn’t prevent my toes from cramming into the front of the toebox on steep descents. I wear this for technical trails without steep descents. Hoka tecton x2 (12 mi): I have only worn this shoe twice for shorter (6 mi) runs, but it doesn’t seem to have the level of midsole comfort/cushion that would get me past 20 miles. I wear this for workout/faster runs on trails. Hoka tecton x3: bought these for a race because of the upgrades to the midsole and then got injured and couldn’t do the race. Feel amazing on my feet and am excited to try these out when I have an opportunity. My trail shoe rotation is almost complete. But I am still searching for the unicorn: a trail shoe that has a grippy and durable outsole, a lockdown that is a good for technical trails and steep descents, and a midsole that is sufficiently stable, cushioned, and resilient. I like the outsole of the tormir, the midsole feel and durability of the tormir and xodus. And I like the lockdown of the bushido and speedgoat. If only the tormirs had a better lockdown…if only the speedgoat midsole didn’t degrade at 300 miles. Should I try the Nnormal Kjerag? Is there a frankenshoe out there for me? Redditors what say you TLDR: is there such a thing as a trail shoe that has a durable and grippy outsole, durable,stable, and cushioned midsole, and a lockdown for technical trails and steep descents?

Nnormal Tomir 2. Having said that, shoes are a super personal thing. Your foot shape is unique and you should look for shoes that fit you right away. Things to look for IMO: - Vibram megagrip - Comfort but with ground feel - Durability - breathable/ fast drying

I am running in Nnormal Tomir 2.0 and I am really enjoying them. I got them for under 100 euros, which was surprisingly cheap. They also seem to be durable with good sown in upper and when you used it to death you can exchange the outsole for a new one. The grip is astonishing, the best outsole I've ever ran in. The stack height is not too dramatic but offers adequate comfort and ground feel. Fit wise they are a bit wider than Salomon, but still not a wide toe box.

Dolomites is pretty technical and rough on shoes - I would not take an unstable shoe like the Speed Ultra (or any racing shoes). Something like the Nnormal Tomir 2 could handle that terrain as it's a tank. Or if you want low drop try the Topo Mountain racer. Maybe also look at the new Norvan LD4, La Sportiva Prodigio Pro? (La Sportiva is a brand based in the Dolomites) Ultimately your foot shape will determine what will work for you though.

Grip on the Peg trail 5 is totally fine - it's quite not on Vibram levels, but it's not a deal breaker like on the 4's. The real reason I wouldn't recommend them is because of the high drop and high heel + soft ReactX makes them too unstable for hiking. Light hikes are fine though and it's really good on road. Zegama 2 is really a long distance cruiser shoe, it's too bulky and soft for hiking and has a huge protruding heel. But maybe not that bad if you are used to Speedboats. Tomir 2 is way better as a hiking shoe and performs well on technical terrain, but road running would suck on it and has pretty aggressive lugs. Arc'teryx Norvan LD4 might be another option as it's a good hiking shoe, vibram, but it's not too cumbersome and outsole is not too aggressive for some road. Maybe new Nike Kiger 10 is an option as it's now Vibram.

I have Challengers and I use them for work. I just did the TCT in 13 hours in a pair of Nnormal Tomir 2.0s. Felt great.  Challengers can be a bit stiff/firm in my opinion. If you’re attached to Hoka and worried about the extra weight and your comfort, I think Speedgoats might be a better option for you as they’re a lot more plush. Either way, as others have said, almost any trail shoe will be a better option than boots. Good luck!

Update in this. Bought and sent back the Nnormal Tomir, lovely shoe and exactly what I wanted but just didn’t fit my feet, same as with the Thundercross. I also went to Decathlon and their shoes are just too narrow. So, we’re trying a new approach and will be sending a pair of shoes I know fit to a specialist cobbler to have a Vibram Zeglite sole added to them.

Yes but only a little. 3mm more stack. Looks like a small update. Ran in the Kjerag and now in the Tomir 2.0. Both feel pretty firm but are tanks if durability is the main concern. Both not my favourite shoes but they do what they are supposed to really well

I can only chime in in Nnormal but figure I will. They were arguably the most durable trail shoe I’ve ever owned, but they had zero cushion/give (IMO). If you don’t mind firm shoes, they’ll last you forever (I ran several ultras in them), but I won’t buy them again because I like a little more comfort.

Speedgoats are super grippy for me but if you want even more bite I would suggest looking into NNormal and Norda.

Big fan of nnormal. Every model uses the vibram megagrip

It really depands what you are looking for. If you want a shoe that is durable, then go for an NNormal--they are extremely durable. Similair to Altras, they have a thin and hard sole. It is especially incredible for downhill running, better than any other shoe I've ever ran with. The only downside is, that it isn't that fast in the flat, but it can still win UTMB and Sierre-Zianal.

I don’t think Speedland is any more durable than Nnormal or Norda. They are all durable, but I would rank them from most to least durable: Norda, Nnormal, Speedland. I have had all three. Speedlands grip is very poor compared to Norda and Nnormal.