Puma - Deviate NITRO™ Elite Trail

imo trail supershoes are still vastly inferior to road supershoes, so if you can & you have no technical terrain, just go for a road shoe. Shoes like the Puma deviate nitro elite 3 have atleast some kind of supershoe character, whilst still beeing grippy, but not as heavy as alot of the trailshoes.

Interested to know if anyone else has experienced horrific rubbing/blistering on the Achilles from these shoes. I’ve never had a shoe that was this uncomfortable out the box in 20+ years of running.

I've run forest paths in Puma Velocity Nitro and Deviate Nitro shoes. The Puma grip was more than enough for handling the wet leaves and mud (in the UK here, so its very damp at the moment).

I have both. (50, male, 80kg, sub-20 5k, 1:32 half) Have used the Nitro Elite 3 for everything from 5k to marathon - and absolutely love them. A lot of my training runs are around Rutland Water paths, which are combination of pavement, light gravel, packed-trail, but can get a little muddy if it rains a lot. The Trail are perfect for this. They feel similar to the road shoe - not quite as "bouncy", but you certainly feel the foam doing its work. Very comfortable and stable. Good on pavement too. I also ran in woodland on more technical trail (in the dry), and they coped admirably with tut grip on loose terrain and I didn't feel unstable on the technical or steep downhill sections. If you like the Elite 3s, and do a bit of hard trail on your runs, then these got the purpose. Also, after 300k, they are wearing really well - the sole looks good, the upper is fine, and they feel great still.

On cloud ultra pro & puma nitro deviate elite trail

Mafate 4 & Slab ultra glide for training Then hoka tecton x3, brooks catamount 3 & agil, puma nitro elite trail for racing, depending on distance and terrain.

If you like the puma’s, why not just get their deviate nitro elite trail? Perfectly acceptable grip for light trails.

My split between the road and trail is 65/35 based on the mileage I have on various road and trail shoes. I never run on dirt/gravel or the trails with my road shoes and limit the tarmac as much as possible with my trail shoes. The MTC H1 is the first shoe that I can take on both road and trail (although nothing technical) and feel and ride great on. I also have the Salomon AG3 Gravel but I find that it’s too tipsy for the trails. On the road, it’s like an excellent lightweight daily trainer with very good energy return that keeps me going. On the trail, I wasn’t too confident initially about the grip of the 2mm lugs but, eventually, I found it to be grippy and able to handle most terrains on the trails very well. The cushion and the bounce of the H1 are better than all other MTC shoes I have. I’m very impressed. Stability is fine on both road and trail. Very happy with this and suits my road-to-trail excursions better than any other shoe for such purposes. Besides the Salomon AG3 Grvl, I had been using the Terrex Agravic Speed Ultra, Agravic Speed, and Puma Deviate Nitro Elite Trail when I want to cover both road and trail on a long run.

My BQ qualifier is getting worryingly close to the estimated cut off, so I'm considering a full send effort at one of the Seattle area downhill, rail to trail marathons in September. The one I'm looking at is the Cascade Express, which loses 1500ft very evenly over the last roughly 19 miles (about 80ft per mile) so not steep but still a lot of downhill. The surface is completely rail to trail, so hard packed crushed gravel. My last marathon I ran the AP4's, but with heel grove in those, I know they'd pick up a lot of gravel, so looking at marathon shoes without cut outs that could catch rocks. I already have the AP3's, which I think may work well but they've got quite a few miles on them. Looking at the Metaspeed Sky Paris as an option as well. Any thoughts?

good beta. I do have the Puma Deviate Elite Trail but it’s a few ounces heavier than the road version. I do a lot of gravel running, so yeah realize it’s a boost from downhill but a minus from the gravel in terms of pace boost. Looks like a beautiful course!

Any recent Pegasus has a decent outsole that works on trails, as do a lot of Puma shoes with the PumaGrip outsole, namely the Deviate and the Velocity. Craft’s road shoes are all trail capable and I’ve been a fan of the CTM Ultra lineup as a trail-capable road shoe.

I've been running icy country lanes (tarmac mainly) in Puma Nitros which have PUMAGRIP outsole. Have a look at some reviews and what others on Reddit are saying. They are ridiculously grippy in all conditions.