Salomon - Salomon S/Lab Sense 6 SG

Contragrip wet traction was the best - it was on the XA Alpine and XA Elevate and the Sense Ultra, Sense 6. But since then it has gotten worse. The Ultraglide 1s were pretty terrible.

I'll second this, by far best running shoe I've had. They are minimalist enough, minimal toe drop, good enough arch support, good at keeping out debris, don't need to be sinched down tight as they fit perfectly snug, not much cushion, but the tread is amazing, lasts way longer than Salomon, and they have enough protection to not kill your feet when you land on a pointy rock wrong. I thought they were too tight at first, but man these are good shoes. Might go up a half size next pair. For reference I'm at 10.5 in Salomon, and got 10.5 sky DNA. The length is good enough on the dynafit, but they are a tad narrower. they are also a bit harder to get into. I've also been using a few gen ago Salomon sense sLabs soft grounds. They are pretty cool, feels likes wearing a sock with tread, very comfy and good grip, but tread doesn't last very long and they don't have enough rock protection.

I used the Salmon Sense, maybe ride it was? Anyway I’ve used it for big hikes in Hawaii, both volcanic, rocky and muddy. Phenomenal shoes

I've tried a few S Lab shoes that didn't work for me due to my wide feet. There might be some hope here with Brooks!

As someone who has run in Kinvaras for a decade, this is what many people think but it’s wrong. Salomon S lab shoes is the answer. Peregrines suck. 

Peregrines have poor trail feel and simply don’t fit the same as ANY other saucony shoe. I have worn dozens of Saauocny road shoes, currently own five, but the peregrine caused instant heel rub that couldn’t be stopped with any lacing tricks. The S Labs feel like a kinvara on the trail. Good minimal cushion with great ground feel and lateral stability. Perhaps I’m an outlier but I have heard a few other Saucony people say something similar. My foot is slightly narrow so that might have something to do with my impression of the peregrine 

You’ll have a much larger selection of shoes using gaiters. As for shoes like Saucony, I do all my road running in Endorphins all my trail running is Salomon, especially their SLab models. Good luck. Another option is LaSportiva. All three fit similarly.

I recomend Salomon slab series, because of its tough upper and strong grip!

New S/labs size down. I’m my actual street shoe size in those, a US 6, when I’m a 6.5 in every other Salomon model. I was fine with my usual 38 in the PP.

I don't have these problems and I'm super happy with narrow Salomon SLAB but my wife loves Altra just because they are like duck feet (my joking about this), and she says they are best fitting shoes ever. So for wide feet, I would definitely say go and try Altra.

I wore Salomon S/Lab and my partner wore Hoka Speedgoat 5. All shoes have their own pros and cons, so if you have a fav trail running shoes, it’s best to stick with that one. We were comfortable in our shoes. Even on the trails where you inevitably get wet, it was refreshing to have the shoes soak up the cold, streaming water while we hiked to cool down. They dried quickly.

Have both and they are quite different. Genesis is less cushioned, I would say better for technical terrain and faster pace. It wraps foot veeeery nicely. S/lab is softer, good for long runs. Additional gaiter is cool