Salomon - S/Lab Genesis Spine

I always use trail runners for hiking, as they are much more comfortable. I also do trailruns/skyruns with them, including climbing grades I - II. If you encounter snow a trail runner like S/LAB Genesis Spine is nice. Mountaineering / Hiking boots from my point of view are only useful for serious climbs or when proper crampons are required.

Salomon S/Lab Genesis Spine? Not full on waterproof but gaitered and water resistant. I do feel that a full gore-tex, gaitered shoe WOULD end up a bit of a sweat trap, as it's covering so much more than a regular shoe.

I would second the Salomon or s/lab genesis. Wasn’t crazy about SG 6. Mafate speed 4 lite is good if you want a soft ride. Mount to Coast T1 is solid. People love prodigio pro (sadly didn’t work for my feet and felt a little bulky). Norda 001a also a strong option. Speedland GL:PDX if you want more bite. Haven’t tried it out yet but Kjerag 2 looks promising as well (Brut if you want more traction and less cushion)

Sadly, soft collars just don’t work for me. I really wanted to like the S/Lab Genesis, but I had to drop them. The ankle collar just doesn’t work for me my malleoli are extremely sensitive, and any contact causes irritation, even with socks on . Great shoe otherwise, but definitely not compatible with my anatomy.

I have the same problem as you and the shoes that block my heel best are the NNormal Kjerag and various Salomon models such as the Genesis

They are good everywhere except wet rocks on technical trails

With the Norwegian climate, for example, I would never have thought you’d get along well with Salomons, since their outsole doesn’t perform well on wet rocks. I also have the Genesis, and if you’re looking for a precise fit, you could consider the Kjerag 2 even though you’re a bit heavy, if your limit is around 40 km, they might work fine. The Tomir are less agile, and I’ve never really gotten along with them. Then again, it depends on the terrain you use them on I do sky races, so I prioritize precision and grip over comfort.

Salomon s/lab genesis. Perfect balance in everything. Fit like a glove.

FYI: I’m a very wide boy, but the Salomon Speedcross and Genesis both fit very comfortably. None of their other shoes do, but those are both great shoes you might want to try. Hoka also has nice wide options across their lineup. If it‘s grip you want, I find the Speedgoat is second only to VJ Shoes - but VJ run narrow.

both the vanilla and slab genesis are good shoes but very different from the speedcross - one won't necessarily translate to the other. But worth a try.

Yeah I’ve been through 2 pairs and they only have about 100-200 good rocky US northeast running miles in them. I'm chonky for a trail runner though (190lb). The wet rock grip is atrocious anyway so I’ve moved on, however they are the still the comfiest shoe I’ve worn so it’s a shame about the outsole. Have a look at the Genesis for a more modern outsole.

Same. Good fit round the mid foot and heel lock down but roomy for the toes. Plus it is so grippy when the terrain gets slippy.

Really? I can only speak from anecdotal experience but this winter I ran in snow, ice, muddy snow ice and was really happy with the grip. I didnt have a chance to use them on slippy rock yet so maybe they are not as strong here. Sid you manage to try them or are you going from reviews? I watched about 2-3 reviews on YouTube before buying them as I was specifically wanting something also with a decent grip but didn’t notice any mention that it was weak. Can’t remember who I watched. Probably Ginger Runner or Run4Adventure. Which pair did you go for in the end?

I think a lot would depend on the terrain. I've used the S/Lab Genesis and mostly liked it, but at the end of my last 100k, over very rocky terrain, my feet got really beaten up, and I think I would have preferred something plated like the Hoka Tecton X3, which I love (and have used as my one travel shoe for roads and trails). If that's not a concern, what about either the Norda 001 or 005?

I'm 100kgs and I normally split my running between the Norda 005, Salomon S/Lab Genesis, Hoka Tecton X3 and Nnormal Tomir 2. I don't tend to train in the X3, but I think I will use them for my upcoming 100km races next year. I haven't had durability issues with any of these shoes.

1- Hoka Tecton X3 Amorti légendaire, sensation de rebond sur le plat, stable, accroche tres bonne, gaitre trop pratique dans les terrains pleins de graviers. 2-Salomon S/lab Genesis: la chaussure de trail la plus polyvalente, ça fait 3 ans qu'elle est sortie et au départ de tous les trails de 40k + la moitié des coureurs la porte, légère, accroche, tient bien dans le temps, très comfortable. 3-Salomon Ultra glide 3: des chaussons avec des crampons.

Salomon Genesis has been my go to all around shoe. Just killed my first pair at 370 miles with 161K Vert. Outsole and upper are still good shape, but I collapsed the midsole with heel striking and pronation.

Sierra is currently selling the S/Lab Genesis for 69 bucks if you wanna just throw more shoes at the problem. Mine looked trashed after 50ish miles but held up for almost 350 miles with 161k vert

I bought a pair of size 10 yesterday from the Taylorsville store and saw several pairs from size 9 through 13

Probably overkill for what you’re doing, but should still serve you well. I’ve got hundreds of miles in both the S/Lab and regular version. The regular Genesis outsole is considerably more durable, but that durability comes at the cost of weight. S/Lab size 10 US is 266g vs Regular Genesis size 10 US 303g

Salomon Glide Max TR 3rd pair- 200 miles - Distance on buffed out nontechnical trail. Salomon Thundercross 2nd pair - 50 miles - Winter with screws Salomon Genesis 2nd pair - 180 miles - Do anything shoe at casual pace Merrell Agility Peak 5 - 112 miles - Technical trail, foot protection, but untrustworthy at speed. Salomon Genesis S/Lab - 354 miles - Do anything at speed, nearing end of life. Replacement pair waiting in the closet. Hoka Clifton 9 - 304 miles - Pavement

Salomon Glide Max TR 3rd pair- 200 miles - Distance on buffed out nontechnical trail. Salomon Thundercross 2nd pair - 50 miles - Winter with screws Salomon Genesis 2nd pair - 180 miles - Do anything shoe at casual pace Merrell Agility Peak 5 - 112 miles - Technical trail, foot protection, but untrustworthy at speed. Salomon Genesis S/Lab - 354 miles - Do anything at speed, nearing end of life. Replacement pair waiting in the closet. Hoka Clifton 9 - 304 miles - Pavement