Salomon - S/Lab Sense 8 SG

And every year they increase the stack height and volume and call it 'innovation'. Nothing better than an old pair of Salomon Sense 8 SG's to attack the terrain.

Here’s my contribution. I haven’t done controlled tests like you did, but I run a lot of rocky vertical terrain and have put lots of miles in all these shoes. Trying to focus here on wet rock grip from the outsole and ignore other shoe attributes (fit, lock down, flexibility/stiffness, weight, cushion, etc) that also come into play with their overall ability to do the job on wet rock 5: VJ Maxx 1&2 VJ Spark Arcteryx Norvan VT (limited mileage) 4. Arcteryx Norvan SL 1, 2, &3 Salomon s/Lab Sense 7&8 Nnormal Kjeraq 3. La Sportiva Helios SR La Sportiva Vertical K & VK INOV-8 F-Lite 195 2. Whole bunch of older inov-8 x-talon and RocLite models NB minimus Salomon s/lab ultra 3 Salomon s/lab sense 7SG 1. Old Nike Terra kiger Salomon s/lab sense 1, 2, 3 For spiked shoes, I actually think they suffer quite a bit on rock because they don’t stick instantly like pure rubber soles. 4. VJ Devil 4 3. VJ bold race, VJ ice hero, INOV-8 ORoc 280

I'll second this, by far best running shoe I've had. They are minimalist enough, minimal toe drop, good enough arch support, good at keeping out debris, don't need to be sinched down tight as they fit perfectly snug, not much cushion, but the tread is amazing, lasts way longer than Salomon, and they have enough protection to not kill your feet when you land on a pointy rock wrong. I thought they were too tight at first, but man these are good shoes. Might go up a half size next pair. For reference I'm at 10.5 in Salomon, and got 10.5 sky DNA. The length is good enough on the dynafit, but they are a tad narrower. they are also a bit harder to get into. I've also been using a few gen ago Salomon sense sLabs soft grounds. They are pretty cool, feels likes wearing a sock with tread, very comfy and good grip, but tread doesn't last very long and they don't have enough rock protection.

Salomon Slab Sense SG. They are nice shoes for me, work good and everything, but Main thing is, that they were shoes that made me love running. I have been running 1000s of kilometers before as part of training in my pro xc ski career, but always hated it, mainly because I was slow. Now years after ending active racing career I kept running but mostly as there was nothing else to do between end of xc ski season and start of mtb season, but still never liked it once I got these shoes, I somehow changed my mindset and slowly started to run longer, started to run in mountains again and all of a sudden I started to love running....for first time in my life. And I say these shoes did this for me, that's why they will forever be best running shoes ever 😊

I don't have these problems and I'm super happy with narrow Salomon SLAB but my wife loves Altra just because they are like duck feet (my joking about this), and she says they are best fitting shoes ever. So for wide feet, I would definitely say go and try Altra.

I use my old trail running shoes for hiking and grocery shopping. I don’t see why you couldn’t combine all that into one pair. What you’re describing can easily be done with something like the Salomon Sense or Genesis.

I used the Salmon Sense, maybe ride it was? Anyway I’ve used it for big hikes in Hawaii, both volcanic, rocky and muddy. Phenomenal shoes

I've tried a few S Lab shoes that didn't work for me due to my wide feet. There might be some hope here with Brooks!

Rocks : Topo or anything with this great vibram soles Mud : saucony peregrine or Salomon s-lab

SLab was too narrow in the midfoot for me, it has quite a high arch. The Genesis is still a wonderful show in its own right, very capable, but the SLab feels a little more premium and slightly bouncier in the midsole.

I recomend Salomon slab series, because of its tough upper and strong grip!