Saucony - Peregrine 4

I Have had the Peregrine 3s and 4s, loved them so much, ran some 50+ mile trail ultras in them no problem, comfortable from start to finish. Just bought the new 5s and they were horrible. I can't work out how they were so bad. I have seen other people say how much they love them so it's a clearly a good shoe, I just can't work out why it feels so different? Anyone else noticed anything odd about them?

I’ve had decent luck with 4mm saucony shoes. But another great training aid for me is to hike in zero drop for building strength and run in the slightly cushier shoes. Might help keep you more robust.

GTX Trail runner shoes. Personally use suacony peregrines. Ran through puddles just fine.

If they aren't working, there isn't much you can do. I find that higher stack height shoes - the Calderas are 38mm/32mm in heel/toe - I tend to roll my ankles more and look for something closer to the ground. The Cascadias are 33mm/25mm, so your foot sits much closer to the ground, and you may be noticing this. I like Saucony Peregrines which are 28/24, about half an inch closer to the ground than the Calderas. Unfortunately, a lot of the max cushioning shoes tend to have higher stack heights.  You can otherwise look for more "stable" and wider sole shoes, but too wide and your gait changes. Or, mid top boots for better stability. You can always keep the Calderas and use them on non technical trails.

I have brooks ghost and saucony peregrine for trail, both brilliant shoes

I have peregrines and am also doing Lakeland 50 and current plan to use my peregrines. Very comfortable shoe

I'm in the exact same boat. Started with the Peregrine, went to Speedboat, back to Peregrine. Have a number of pairs of both floating around. I find the Hoka stickier, but better tred (that doesn't fall apart quickly) on the Peregrine.

Fan of peregrine and even had those older model exodus (the tanks!) and liked them, but something didn’t click for me in the Xodus Ultra. Really wanted to love them. But I just always felt flat running in them, and failed to get a lockdown fit. Nowadays prefer shoes with a bit more flexibility too. Such an odd experience considering the rave reviews! Glad they worked out for someone though!

I think you can grt some deals such as old versions, off colors and get good prices on trail runners… there’s probably not a new model at full price for under 100 that would be trustworthy lol shop deals, rei resupply, backcountry etc to find solid options like the lone peaks or saucony peregrines i like alot and usually can find good prices… got a pair on amazon for 50 bucks that was the 13s which r their best year haha

I have big wide feet 12 (4E) on my road shoes, I have found that going up a size in Saucony Peregrine gives me the width that I need. I have yet to find a wide fit trail shoe in my local running stores. I try Atlra as they are supposed to have a bug toe box, but they don’t work for me.

I would go to another store and see what they have. I am a similar build to you, and I have wide feet, I’ve found that Saucony Peregrine work for me.

Nice. Based on that and the road shoes you like I’d suggest Saucony Peregrine. The other guy’s suggestion of ASICS Trabuco is solid too. Also Salomon Ultra Glide 4.