Peregrine 4

I Have had the Peregrine 3s and 4s, loved them so much, ran some 50+ mile trail ultras in them no problem, comfortable from start to finish. Just bought the new 5s and they were horrible. I can't work out how they were so bad. I have seen other people say how much they love them so it's a clearly a good shoe, I just can't work out why it feels so different? Anyone else noticed anything odd about them?

Sadly with the 13s they changed the sole, and they just don't have the grip of the older ones. Which is a shame, because they were a great shoe. I went through several pairs before I had to find something else.

I loved the older Peregrine's but the new ones quality is absolute trash. I've moved over to Nnormals and don't see myself going back. Tomirs will probably fit your foot best, Kjerag is more "like" the Peregrine IMO (stiffer foam, lighter) but you may find them tight. Good luck!

Saucony Peregrines wides for long trails 4mm drop. I wear LP for every day wear.

Wide midfoot is a tricky one because a lot of “wide” trail shoes mainly add space in the toebox, not the midfoot. A few models that could fit: **Saucony Peregrine (wide)** Not the widest midfoot ever, but the wide version does give a bit more platform underfoot and the rock protection is pretty solid for technical trails. **Brooks Cascadia (wide)** Often recommended for people who want a bit more stability and protection on technical terrain. The platform is fairly stable for longer trail efforts. For what you described (technical sections + 50K distance + some overpronation), something like MTN Racer wide or Cascadia wide might be closer to what you’re looking for than Speedgoats. Also sometimes runners with wider midfeet have luck going half size up, since it can give a bit more volume through the midfoot area.