SCARPA - RIBELLE® RUN XT MEN'S

I did so much research on this subject last year before landing on the la sportiva jackal. IMO the bushido are too soft for serious scrambling. I also used scarpa ribelle run xt’s, which I liked, but did not fit my foot correctly. Scarpa also makes an approach/ runner, but from what I’ve been told, they aren’t great to run in.  I listened to a podcast recently where the guy was talking about how great norda is for scrambling due to the dynema upper. If I could try them on and they weren’t so expensive, I would probably go that route. The biggest downside to scrambling in running shoes is the mesh when you are jamming. I’ve climbed up to low fifth class in my jackals for what it’s worth.

In my limited experience vibram megagrip were ok at best on wet rock, very bad on wet dirt (not very muddy). Best ones I tried were Scarpa presa.

Gravel is a tricky surface, I agree. It probably depends on the the percentage of a certain terrain in a run that I choose the shoes. Generally, for steep grass I like Mudtalons with 8mm lugs, for snow the Genesis and for barely runnable rocks Bushidos. But then again, there is always a trade-off, since a run is usually composed of different surfaces. As an allrounder in alpine environment, I often go for Dynafit, Prodigio or Ribelle Run. YMMY. (And yes: I might have too many shoes).

I have been running in the Italian Alps for about ten years with distances even over 100km. I think that's enough to give you some advice. It really depends on where you live, the terrain you train on (mud, gravel, rocks, roots), the distance you like. To start, however, I recommend a comfortable shoe with a 4-6mm drop that is not excessively cushioned (you lose a lot of sensitivity on the ground) a sole with not too large notches (if there are some fast areas) Hoka Mafate Speed, New Balance Hierro, La Sportiva Akasha, Nnormal kjerag. Salomon sense ride (cheap and fast) Now I'm using the Scarpa Ribelle Run, they have 500km but they're not good

Scarpa Ribelle Run. Done 50k ultras and UIAA 3 scrambling on this. I've done more than 600km with them. Just perfect!

i second the scarpa ribelle run. i personally use the dynafit transalper because it has more of an approach style toe, but ive also enjoyed the scarpa spin ultra

Per title, was wondering everybody’s opinions on this? For context I have ample bouldering/sport/trad climbing experience and am getting more into scrambling. I’ve done needle peak, sky pilot, west lion, Brunswick & crown, for reference. I’ve done pretty much all of these in scarpa ribelle runs which I find: - very nicely lightweight & breathable - excellent grip on trail - very grippy rubber for smearing - edging leaves something to be desired - rather soft and insecure for this - fitwise, a touch narrow and pinches my pinky toes uncomfortably - would like smth that fits wider - not always the greatest protection against ~baseball sized talus As I look into other & bigger objectives (ie markhor-needle, tricouni, armchair, would like to get my fitness up to eventually do Robie Reid in a day), I start wondering if there’s something that could work for me better. I was looking at the scarpa cruxes which seems like it’d be a lot more secure on the technical sections, but im not sure how comfortable they’d be on a massive day like a single day push of Robie Reid. On the other hand I’d rather be able to climb well vs have a foot pop and die lol. Or, should I just lean into trail comfort and then when it comes time to do consequential stuff, switch into rock shoes if the trail runners don’t cut it? What’s everybody’s thoughts?

@u/Old-Criticism5610 these are awesome shoes. I’ve also ran many miles and hiked 20+ miles in these in a day with no foot issues. I second their great climbing capabilities too! Not quite approach shoes but pretty close!

Scarpa shoes are excellent if they fit your feet. I haver both the Ribelle Run (somewhat narrow and firm - more precision oriented) and the Ribelle Run Kaligra G (wider and a bit softer) which I really enjoy running/hiking in.

Scarpa trail shoes. They've been amazing for me.

Had great luck with Scarpas. The Golden Gate 2 and Spin Planet are great in conditions you describe.