Ultraventure 3

I've been thru Topo Hydroventure, Ultraventure 1/2/3, MTN Racer 1/2/3/4. The UV3's lost the outer/lug grip plot, the MTN3's felt like running in floppy support-free canvas bags (the MTN4's are a return to form). I haven't tried the Vistas yet. What I'm concerned about with the Vistas is catching little rocks in that split heel just like Saucony Peregrines do. Did you experience this in your run test? Other than that, the lugs are the same as the MTN4's, right?

I heard the Altras are REALLY different in every update, so it's possible another style or iteration will work for you. I went to my local Fleet Feet asking for "Altras with arch support" and I'm eight pairs deep on Topo Athletic. I LOVE the Ultraventure 3. Drop and cushioning vary by style. FWIW, I have a broad forefoot, high arch, and narrow heel, so I always skip one hole over the top of foot, do a lace locker, and curl my toes when I pull my laces snug to lock in my heels without crunching the tops of my feet.

Topo Ultraventure 3 was my go-to master-of-none travel shoe. I’ll likely be getting the 4 in the future, especially because it looks better.

>Somebody mentioned they might not be as wide in the toebox as Atras but I don’t find that to be true Altra Lone Peak 9 toebox width\[0\]. Topo MTN Racer 3\[1\], Traverse\[2\] and Ultraventure 3\[3\]. Make of the 3-5mm width difference what you will, but it seems there is a consistent difference. Your feet may simply be narrow enough that your toes aren't close to touching even the Topo toebox. The Topo toebox is above average width to begin with. \[0\] [https://runrepeat.com/altra-lone-peak-9#toebox-width](https://runrepeat.com/altra-lone-peak-9#toebox-width) \[1\] [https://runrepeat.com/topo-athletic-mtn-racer-3#toebox-width](https://runrepeat.com/topo-athletic-mtn-racer-3#toebox-width) \[2\] [https://runrepeat.com/topo-athletic-traverse#toebox-width](https://runrepeat.com/topo-athletic-traverse#toebox-width) \[3\] [https://runrepeat.com/topo-athletic-ultraventure-3#toebox-width](https://runrepeat.com/topo-athletic-ultraventure-3#toebox-width)

Had the Ultraventure 3 and really wanted to use them for running, but the midsole "correction/support" were to agressive and resulted in pain as well as the 5mm drop lead to ankle inflamation. Sold them.