Primus Trail Flow

If you need water resistance / mud / snow handling, then Magna. If you want a fair weather hiker then Primus Trail or Flow Trail. The Tracker low model is just not one way or the other - low cut and the sole are not good for wet conditions, and there are much better shoes for dry conditions.

If you need water resistance / mud / snow handling, then Magna. If you want a fair weather hiker then Primus Trail or Flow Trail. The Tracker low model is just not one way or the other - low cut and the sole are not good for wet conditions, and there are much better shoes for dry conditions.

I use Primus Trail (I have regular and knits) in PNW of US, which is wet, steep, and rocky (well, dry in July/August). The Primus works quite well, good traction and control, even on spring snow. I use non-waterproof model as a standard. If I get wet, I get wet, but it drains and dries better. On winter snow hikes I use Magnas.

I use the same size as my dailies (my daily is Primus Lite Knit). The trail model has a bit more width, which is helpful for me on the trail, as I need the space for the pinkie on the downhills and often wear thicker socks than around town.

Are you running or walking when you get feet pain on concrete with the Vapor Glove 7s? I use the Vapor Glove 5s as my daily shoe and have used the 1st, 4th, and 5th gens of the Vapor Gloves as my daily shoes + backup running shoes for both road and trail, and I don't have any issues. But I have been using minimalist shoes for over a decade now, so maybe that's why. Maybe you need to train your feet and calf muscles, or practice your landing positioning and form? > The most important: there are some shoes in the middle between Trail Glove and Vapor Glove? I love trail running in my Vapor Gloves, but I only use them for shorter trail runs less than 10K, since I really need to be careful about where and how I land. For longer trail runs, I use Vivobarefoot Primus Trail Flows and Primus Trail FGs. I love the Trail Flows for rocky, technical terrain and the Trail FGs for non-technical, dirt trails (as the name Firm Ground insinuates).

> And so you are saiyng that the trail collection from Vivo is more protective? The Vivo trail runners have a higher stack height than the Vapor Gloves. I went on trail runs up to 63K in my Vivo Primus Trail Knits, and I'll be running a 112K ultra trail in my Vivo Primus Trail FG 3.5s. The Vivos should treat you well, provided your feet shape is compatible with Vivo's aggressive toebox tapering.

personally I’m firmly in the barefoot and zero drop camp and would encourage almost anyone to go through the transition, your feet will thank you for it. so based on that, I’d argue there’s no better “do it all” shoe than the **Vivobarefoot Motus Studios**. They’re 5mm stack without the insole, fully suede and leather (and surprisingly breathable while also being basically almost waterproof) and the outsole is a perfect from city walks and the gym to dry weather hikes. I’m pretty sure Vivo has them on sale right now. Super lightweight, flexible and honestly they look really cold in all black (this is coming from a man who used to love his Vans and Nikes btw) Vivo primus trail models are great for more off road use, Gobi leather sneakers are better for less off road use (and are my fav casual pairs to wear since they have not just black and white colors). There are loads more barefoot brands but I’ve only been wearing Vivos since i transitioned to barefoot shoes last year, and the Motus studios and gobi sneakers have been the shoes i picked and have worn since (outside of Magna ESCs for real hiking) Obviously as many other comments have said, it really does depend on what’s best for you!

personally i think the regular primus trails are better for running - the knits ventilate not as well - I find the knits are better looking but the regular better performing in my ultimate [vivobarefoot review guide](https://canadianomad.com/vivobarefoot-buyers-guide/) I compare all the models

theyre my favoruties 100%

I love my vivo bare feet Primus trail runners. I was afraid of how my first real hike in them would go but I won't hike in anything else unless there are very special circumstances