Primus Trail Flow

If you need water resistance / mud / snow handling, then Magna. If you want a fair weather hiker then Primus Trail or Flow Trail. The Tracker low model is just not one way or the other - low cut and the sole are not good for wet conditions, and there are much better shoes for dry conditions.

If you need water resistance / mud / snow handling, then Magna. If you want a fair weather hiker then Primus Trail or Flow Trail. The Tracker low model is just not one way or the other - low cut and the sole are not good for wet conditions, and there are much better shoes for dry conditions.

I use Primus Trail (I have regular and knits) in PNW of US, which is wet, steep, and rocky (well, dry in July/August). The Primus works quite well, good traction and control, even on spring snow. I use non-waterproof model as a standard. If I get wet, I get wet, but it drains and dries better. On winter snow hikes I use Magnas.

I use the same size as my dailies (my daily is Primus Lite Knit). The trail model has a bit more width, which is helpful for me on the trail, as I need the space for the pinkie on the downhills and often wear thicker socks than around town.

Are you running or walking when you get feet pain on concrete with the Vapor Glove 7s? I use the Vapor Glove 5s as my daily shoe and have used the 1st, 4th, and 5th gens of the Vapor Gloves as my daily shoes + backup running shoes for both road and trail, and I don't have any issues. But I have been using minimalist shoes for over a decade now, so maybe that's why. Maybe you need to train your feet and calf muscles, or practice your landing positioning and form? > The most important: there are some shoes in the middle between Trail Glove and Vapor Glove? I love trail running in my Vapor Gloves, but I only use them for shorter trail runs less than 10K, since I really need to be careful about where and how I land. For longer trail runs, I use Vivobarefoot Primus Trail Flows and Primus Trail FGs. I love the Trail Flows for rocky, technical terrain and the Trail FGs for non-technical, dirt trails (as the name Firm Ground insinuates).

> And so you are saiyng that the trail collection from Vivo is more protective? The Vivo trail runners have a higher stack height than the Vapor Gloves. I went on trail runs up to 63K in my Vivo Primus Trail Knits, and I'll be running a 112K ultra trail in my Vivo Primus Trail FG 3.5s. The Vivos should treat you well, provided your feet shape is compatible with Vivo's aggressive toebox tapering.

personally i think the regular primus trails are better for running - the knits ventilate not as well - I find the knits are better looking but the regular better performing in my ultimate [vivobarefoot review guide](https://canadianomad.com/vivobarefoot-buyers-guide/) I compare all the models

theyre my favoruties 100%

I have 700 miles on a pair of Vivobarefoot Primus Trail and they look and feel nearly new. I know minimal shoes aren't for everyone but these ones last a LONG time.

Between the shows, Trail knit are the most comfortable imo. The Promis trail I just can’t get with. I’ve sent 3 pair back as I’ve not had luck with them each time if tried. The soles / tread on all of them won’t last long. I burn through a pair in a month maximum and it’s kind of a bummer. I do walk a lot and actually do anything that at all resembles slightly paved miles in other shoes as the non esc Vivo just don’t hold up.

You are then certainly someone who can speak but... Have you tried Sensus? My God, perhaps the best shoe of humanity. I've also been using Vivo's for 8 years and I have 15 pairs, can you tell me which models you noticed a drop in quality? For instance, the quality of the PRIMUS Trail has improved immensely since my first models. Thank you barefooter! 👣

I run in Vivo Barefoot Shoes, Primus and Primus trail. I’ve exclusively worn minimalist shoes for 7-8 years and I cannot run in conventional shoes because it changes my gait and hurts. In fact, I can’t really run on the school track near my house because it’s so squishy. That said, as someone new to running this year, my form is naturally awesome and I’ve made great gains. Before I started running earlier this year I bought Altra Escalantes thinking they’d be ok. Absolutely not - felt like marshmallows and squeezed my mid-foot terribly. Also caused heel striking I could not force to change. There is a barefoot running subreddit; you’ll find people there who run both shod and unshod.