Primus Trail II FG

Personally don't find much difference in the breathability of each, but do find that the all weathers are a little wider and more comfortable (for me)

Even more? I was thinking of buying a new pair since the Primus Trail FG II I bought on 10/11/2021 have started giving out.

This is what I have, and I have used them in south east Asia and Europe for hiking. Love them.

I have a low volume foot and I like the fit on the trail knit. They hug my foot like a nice stretchy sock. I think you'll prefer that. The FG is good, but a little loose and stiff. I really like the ora for the reasons you stated. Its nice getting my feet wet, but I did kick a rock once and that made me sad. Now I'm more hesitant to wear them

Are you running or walking when you get feet pain on concrete with the Vapor Glove 7s? I use the Vapor Glove 5s as my daily shoe and have used the 1st, 4th, and 5th gens of the Vapor Gloves as my daily shoes + backup running shoes for both road and trail, and I don't have any issues. But I have been using minimalist shoes for over a decade now, so maybe that's why. Maybe you need to train your feet and calf muscles, or practice your landing positioning and form? > The most important: there are some shoes in the middle between Trail Glove and Vapor Glove? I love trail running in my Vapor Gloves, but I only use them for shorter trail runs less than 10K, since I really need to be careful about where and how I land. For longer trail runs, I use Vivobarefoot Primus Trail Flows and Primus Trail FGs. I love the Trail Flows for rocky, technical terrain and the Trail FGs for non-technical, dirt trails (as the name Firm Ground insinuates).