I don’t even understand how there are still BIFL vacuum threads when Miele exists. You do any searching at all and Miele is the answer. I got my Miele in 2016 and it’s pretty much exactly the same now as the day I bought it. I replaced one of the attachments, because I wanted to level up from nylon brushes to horsehair brushes. Otherwise it’s perfect. Hot tip, I bought mine at the very end of the year after Christmas and they were having a big sale. It was a long time ago so idk if they still have end of the year sales, but worth looking out for one. I also at some point bought the extra long skinny nozzle attachment which has been handy.
I have the model that can use a hepa filter and has the electric head, not just the non-powered brush head. Without the electric head, I don’t think it would be very effective on carpets. The non powered brush is great for my wood floors. The electric head has no issues on carpet and I have long hair (I try to contain my shedding though, if I have a loose hair, I try to put it in the trash). The electric head has 5 settings of how high off the floor you want the brush, and the canister has multiple levels of suction, so you can do pretty much any surface from carpet all the way down to curtains and upholstery. Honestly I remember growing up with my parents’ mediocre vacuums and having hair get wrapped around the roller brush all the time and having be a huge pain in the ass to clean? The Miele seems to have no issues at all. I can’t even really remember ever having to unstick long hair, though maybe I have once or twice. Their instructional videos really emphasize going slow enough to rely on the suction to loosen and pick stuff up. And it is really good. However, I don’t have pets so can’t speak to how that changes things. When I bought it, I remember them saying it was designed to last for a minimum of one (or two?)hour of vacuuming per week for 20 years.
Also, it has a pedal you tap with your foot to automatically retract the cord and it is an amazing feature. I just remember how much I loathed to wrap the stupid long ass cord of my parents vacuum. The cord retractor is dope af, makes it all feel like much less of a chore.
ETA: Mine is also the mid-range, and when I bought it, it was advertised as being a little more compact than their full sized ones, which it is and I love it. Perfect for an apartment or if you don’t have enough storage space, and it’s easy to move around.
I have a Miele C1 and a main coon cat with really long fur. It does wrap around the roller and I have to cut it off when Im done vacuuming. Overall I am happy with my choice, but the sebo has an easily removable roller that would sounds easier to clean. If possible , go to a shop and try some out.
Just went through this myself. I was told if the house is big, go with the C3, or if it's small go with C1. I went with the Cat and Dog model since it has the power head for carpet. The home care model comes with that too, plus the home care has 5 years of warranty instead of 1 with most other models. Hope that helps.
You would be fine with a C1. Either the cat and dog model or the home care model. Home care is most expensive but includes 5 years warranty instead of 1 year
If you have the money and return window, ditch the eureka and get the Miele C1 classic pure suction for under $350 (ideally from a vacuum store).
If you go to a vacuum store ask about the c1 homecare model. It'll have a better warranty and come with more tools.. and Mieles tools are quite nice.
The mite is way too loud for me to use comfortably for more than a minute even. The Miele is quieter, stronger, has more suction levels for delicate tasks, and filters amazingly (especially if you get the HEPA).
No contest. But what's that other 30%?
A Kenmore canister would easily fall under your budget and have a lot of the ergonomic features you need, like lightweight, cord reel, foot pedals, and fingertip controls.
Tbh any canister these days have foot pedals and cord rewinds.
I'm a Miele fan, but sebos are a better value. If you can get the Sebo k3 from a dealer (usually for under $700) that would be your best bet. You'd use your dominant hand to maneuver the floor head while using your non dominant to pull at the hose to reposition the canister as you go. If you don't have two hands at your disposal pulling the canister and working in sections while surrounding the canister also works. Bonus points if your place is the perfect size for the canister to use only one plug centrally.
These canisters tend to have less weight in hand than even stick models (other than the upright style stick models).
These canisters will also last 20 years, with each bag filling up every 3-9 months depending on if you have pets and how many people you have at home.
Bagless vacuums require deep cleaning and filter maintenance that will aggravate allergies with the aerosolization of fine dust. with bagged models, you simply toss and replace the bag every few months, and replace the filter every 4ish bags (which works out to 2-3 years for a smaller home/family). Sure it's a disposable, but they're made from recycled fibers already and it's a better prospect than buying a subpar machine every few years. It is also just more hygienic. And are the only option for folks with the worst allergies.
Sebos work excellently and have good filtration, however Mieles, with their HEPA filter do filter slightly better and function better and more quietly, however they are more expensive.
Any Miele with the parquet twister floor tool and seb217 would be right for you. I recommend buying it from a dealer as you can mix and match the floor heads.
From a dealer you can get the c3 Kona with the seb217 (instead of the 228 bc it's lighter) for under $850 on sale, and there are sales.
You might be able to get the c1 homecare model for cheaper, so ask about that. The cat & dog model is cheaper but you'll want the HEPA filter.
Also Miele bags & filters are cheaper than sebos, even if youre using Miele HEPA with the full size machines. Sebo parts are only sold by dealers and they're very expenny. The Miele allergy pack is 8 bags and a heap filter for $55 (~retail for the Miele HEPA or Sebo filters alone).
Other than that, I'd say lookout on the used marketplaces for good deals. I got my $1800 Miele for $300, so it's possible.
Good luck.
A Kenmore canister would easily fall under your budget and have a lot of the ergonomic features you need, like lightweight, cord reel, foot pedals, and fingertip controls.
Tbh any canister these days have foot pedals and cord rewinds.
I'm a Miele fan, but sebos are a better value. If you can get the Sebo k3 from a dealer (usually for under $700) that would be your best bet. You'd use your dominant hand to maneuver the floor head while using your non dominant to pull at the hose to reposition the canister as you go. If you don't have two hands at your disposal pulling the canister and working in sections while surrounding the canister also works. Bonus points if your place is the perfect size for the canister to use only one plug centrally.
These canisters tend to have less weight in hand than even stick models (other than the upright style stick models).
These canisters will also last 20 years, with each bag filling up every 3-9 months depending on if you have pets and how many people you have at home.
Bagless vacuums require deep cleaning and filter maintenance that will aggravate allergies with the aerosolization of fine dust. with bagged models, you simply toss and replace the bag every few months, and replace the filter every 4ish bags (which works out to 2-3 years for a smaller home/family). Sure it's a disposable, but they're made from recycled fibers already and it's a better prospect than buying a subpar machine every few years. It is also just more hygienic. And are the only option for folks with the worst allergies.
Sebos work excellently and have good filtration, however Mieles, with their HEPA filter do filter slightly better and function better and more quietly, however they are more expensive.
Any Miele with the parquet twister floor tool and seb217 would be right for you. I recommend buying it from a dealer as you can mix and match the floor heads.
From a dealer you can get the c3 Kona with the seb217 (instead of the 228 bc it's lighter) for under $850 on sale, and there are sales.
You might be able to get the c1 homecare model for cheaper, so ask about that. The cat & dog model is cheaper but you'll want the HEPA filter.
Also Miele bags & filters are cheaper than sebos, even if youre using Miele HEPA with the full size machines. Sebo parts are only sold by dealers and they're very expenny. The Miele allergy pack is 8 bags and a heap filter for $55 (~retail for the Miele HEPA or Sebo filters alone).
Other than that, I'd say lookout on the used marketplaces for good deals. I got my $1800 Miele for $300, so it's possible.
Good luck.
Probably the Kenmore bagged canisters. 600 or elite for the ease of use and fingertip controls. Maybe the elite crossover?
They're not ultra well built and may only last your business about 5 years, but you have to be gentle on them.
Mieles and Sebos will last much longer but you need to spend a little more than 500 for something that's carpet capable. The sebo k3 is their cheapest option tho (from a dealer ofc).
The warranties don't apply ofc, but I think sebo might honor 1 year for commercial use? You should check that out.
I know many cleaning businesses in my area who use Mieles, from the classic C1 all the way up to the brilliant. It depends what you prefer and what your clients demand.
My sister has some carpets but her cleaning person only uses a suction Miele and my sister doesn't care (and the cleaning person does an excellent job).
The worst Miele/sebo outperforms most vacuums. Just make sure to buy large boxes of original bags for the bulk discount and to make them last.
With any new product, you're going to want to do a quick educational tour of the product with the folks who'll need to use it so they're getting the most out of it and aren't encumbered. And especially so they don't accidentally damage the machine.
Commercial machines exist as well, but may not be as convenient and maneuverable for cleaning homes.
Canisters are the only option imo for their versatility and reduced fatiguing.
TL;DR: go to a Miele dealer (use their website to find one) buy the C3 homecare+ for full home cleaning, demote the Dyson to quick jobs, never look back.
If you have gen5 detect money (and interest) buy the vacuum that made Dyson increase their filtration standard: a Miele. I thought it was funny Dyson did this as it retroactively pulled the facade off of their previous marketing.
For the best performance on hard floors you'll want a machine with their parquet twister attachment, it's what made me fall in love with Mieles in middle school. Currently it works like a dream for my kitty and her ways. (And that original one still works for my parents 17 years later).
Technically Mieles cheapest machine, the c1 classic, functions just as well on hard floors when using the same tool as their most expensive machine, the c3 brilliant.
They have the same motor, use the same bags, and have the same filter media, but the c3s are MUCH quieter, fully sealed, have bigger bag compartments, and store their tools onboard.
The c2 models are a happy in between. They're fully sealed, are quieter but not as quiet as the c3, and also have the onboard tools.
Contemporary c2s are made in China with German motors. They're just as well built as the German plastic machines. Technically they're better built because Miele innovated on the s5000 shell which became the c2. Having taken apart both, the c2s construction is more like a brilliant than the c1 classic.
As of right now, only Mieles c3s are built completely in Germany. All their bagged models use German made motors but the remainder are formed in China. All the bagless models are completely made in China. No knock against Chinese manufacturing, it's excellent obviously, but that's the T with Mieles current production chain for vacuums. I like my first gen triflex even.
Because your budget is $600 (medium-high) and you have carpets, that complicates my recommendation:
If you're buying a machine you should buy the one that fully encapsulates your use and use it how you like. Don't purposefully buy something that does less when you can use more, and you can afford more. No matter what you buy it'll outlive and outperform the gen 5. A straight suction Miele might even marginally outperform it on your carpets...
Then, you have the Dyson Gen 5 vs the v12/15 (which tells me you care about "the best", technology, and convenience physical constraints be damned) which points me to recommend you Mieles top of line canisters: the c3 electro models (Kona, Marin, Brilliant/ homecare, homecare e, homecare +). They come standard with the electro carpet brush and the parquet twister, as well as the HEPA filter.
The Marin adds some longevity and QOL electronics like a filter life timer, parking shutoff switch, and auto suction as well as the seb236, Mieles low profile and led-lit carpet brush.
The Brilliant, the one I think you should get, has what the Marin has plus fingertip controls & a display. This makes switching surfaces and tools on the fly so much easier. It also kinda obviates the parking switch.
You should buy them from a vacuum store, miele dealer, to get the best deal and get the homecare models with the longer warranty and more tools. From a dealer, you can likely get the Kona for $850, Marin for $1100, and brilliant for $1500, but you might have a harder time finding that brilliant deal as it kinda pads the coffers.
Like I said, the c1 classic and a parquet twister will get you the same clean, but it's time to demote the Dyson and get a real vacuum as your primary. The Dyson can be used for quick runs and it'll thank you for it (by living longer than 5). Your carpets will also likely thank you for it.
Ik I blew past your budget, but it really seems like you can afford it so 🤷🏾♂️
Sebos have better warranties, and some like them better, but they're marginally louder, less powerful, and filter less well than a Miele. And when comparing to a c3, Mieles bags & filters are cheaper in their allergy bundle. Mieles also have a better feel in hand... Which is the whole point imo. You can likely try a Sebo wherever you go to buy that Miele homecare+ 😘 so make sure to try it out too.
I think Mieles parquet twister and seb236 are better than sebos articulating floor tool or et1. But that's my opinion.
The fully in price recommendation for hard floors would the c3 gala or the c2 hard floor. Marginally in budget but all inclusive machine would be the c1 centennial (if you can find it for $650 and buy the parquet twister). Another option, but a little stretch is the c1 homecare with electro brush (only available from Miele dealers).
Even an abused Miele will last a decade. Get the nicest one you can afford, take care of it, and have a perfectly clean home for more than 20 years. No joke. Also, your Dyson is leaving stuff in the carpets that an electro Miele will capture. Your first bag will fill fast (as does everyone's unless they already had a Miele/Sebo).
I do actually have to corroborate this because I do see people complaining (which is their experience) but in my many warranty requests with shark, they were pretty easy to work with, a the most I did was a little video call with a representative but tbh thts kinds nice because it's a person who's talking to you and affirming you're about to receive xyz products in the mail for free and here are the links to using it installing them.
Sure the warranty is 4years maybe on their most premium vac (what's it today y'all?) and they will die eventually afterwards without parts. But hey the company is mostly upfront about their marketing first, wowing upfront performance and shorter life cycles (implicitly) and honor their contracts easily.
A shark apex was the first vacuum I bought myself as an adult. I grew up with a miele canister.
After a year ish I immediately bought a miele canister on marketplace and ofc it was much better for slightly cheaper (a miele UniQ!).
I cleaned up and gave that shark to my bestie's family who still use it (and know how to maintain it well).
I bought my brother and Apex for his housewarming (before I got my uniq) and it's a great vacuum for them too but they're not very meticulous users (and have a German shepherd) so it died in under 4 years.
As a vacuum nut who acquires new/user vacuums for fun for my loved ones, sharks best stuff does work better than 90% of the crap that's out there... But knowing what I know now after a decade+ of vacuum nuttery, things like a miele/Sebo noticeably and materially outperform a shark, no contest. The economics of shark ownership are really not there in my experience.... ESPECIALLY compared to a Kenmore...
Also being a canister vacuum nuts makes me resent shark a little. Though I got my cousin to buy the shark canister and it's great but they're also not meticulous users so I should've found them a miele 🤷🏾
Sharks aren't bad~ but they're always worse... So why not get the better performer (Germans) or the better value (Kenmore)?
This is also ignoring the consumerist plague that is the sharkninja company... Their products always mostly work but are also almost always mostly outlcassed by their peers.
Overall, it's a "why bother" from me. But get off the cross buddy, you're not a Dyson owner 😂
Yes they still do and it's been the same vaccums: corded bagged machines.
Even a corded bagged Bissell/Hoover can put in some work for a while with care.
A Kenmore bagged vacuum is better.
Miele and sebo are the best and can last 30 years with a bit of maintenance.
Never expect any bagless or battery powered vacuum to survive daily service with shedding animals.
I wouldn't bother with the Kenmore because of the excess of hair. Get a miele with the seb228 or 236, not the seb217 (the skinnier shaft makes wraps more common, like with the Sebo ET1).
What's your budget and timeline for the machine because I'm pretty gung ho about buying used and self servicing... But I recognize that's not for everyone and not everyone has a flexible budget.
The Kenmore will work for years with care and you can service them decently easily.
A miele will be a tank and feel better to use every moment you use it. The value of that price difference (let's say $400 vs $950 new) is up to you.
A used like new Kenmore 600 series canister for ~$250 is an excellent price point for getting something that works and it can't be forgotten because of how inexpensive it is.
The simple existence of a bag in a vacuum changes a lot of dynamics of how vacuums work. Ultimately they're cleaner and easier to maintain and allow the machine to live longer.
Bagless machines need to be emptied per room, and washed monthly to retain performance and live towards a decade.
Bagged machines need a bag swap every few months and s filter swap yearly (or less frequently for a smaller or less active home).
Having something "capture" the dust is better than having something to "hold" the dust, if that makes sense.
It's not even a competition and it's just the fluid dynamics of the machines. Bagless machines were invented as a compromise (and the technology has not panned out in the way James Dyson originally envisioned, a la the failure of their "Cinetic" cyclones).
And in that time bags have gotten better and cheaper to produce.
So today, there's really no use for a bagless machine as a primary vacuum for a home.
I bought a Miele c1 with power head. My house is 80% carpet and I love it. Vacuumed with my old Dyson right before the Miele and was amazed how much better the Miele was. The bag thing is something I quickly got over once I realized how much less my vacuum smells like dog (have 3 dogs and vacuum daily). It holds way more dirt than you realize. My vote is bagged vacuum if you plan on pets or your live an active/dusty life.
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