Miele - Classic C1 Junior EcoLine - SBAP3

Question for this sub: do people with hard floors (I have stone) get barefoot-friendly perfect surface (i.e. even those tiny microparticles) from vacuuming alone? My robot (Eufy X10 Pro Omni) \*vacuuming\* does not alone perform well enough, but it also has a mop and with it it's perfect. I thought the mop would be a little gimmicky but it's 100% necessary for those last pieces of tiny specks the lower battery-tier suction can't handle. As for the ingrained stains, no vacuum can take that, you need to scrub/mop with manual force anyway.. Recently got a corded/bagged Miele (the new budget line S1 Junior - but the mid-range M1 looked/felt the same in the store), for carpets, upholstery and places where the robot can't reach. Suction is obviously great but I'm not at all impressed with the build quality of the main unit, and especially the plastic lid and inner details - a toddler or a cat could break it if left open. I can assure you even my Chinese robot is better made (the plastic is much higher grade, thick and hard enough to resist surface scratches). I was considering the old C3s but they're literally discontinuing those so I don't get where all the Miele praise comes from. Doesn't matter that the motor is great if you need plastic parts from a 15y old model in the future.

I'm lucky to have a large apt with lots of empty stone flooring and no doorsteps between rooms. There's no way to beat the robot which takes about 5-10 min of prep/maintenance work per cleaning, if you're using manual sweeping. I think a robot is probably not a solution for most people due to apt layout, materials, furniture, pets, kids, etc. But in my case it's a blessing. That leaves me with a secondary, which needs to suck hard (well, in the intended way) from carpet and upholstery like couches. That's why I went with the \~200 Miele. I could pay 4x the price for a premium battery-powered Dyson but I'd get 1/3 of the power. Not that pure wattage is everything, but still. How does yours perform on carpet and upholstery? If I had hard floors, door steps and more stuff in the apt, a high-end battery Dyson could have been my primary. Who knows.

I've had a Miele Classic C1 Junior for the past 9 years. I've found that to be fantastic and I'll probably just buy the same again when it eventually dies.

Miele junior I have it does the job I had 2 bed apt. 2 cats. Wish I had got the pet one it’s a lot more cash but they are worth it! No better hoover imo.

Miele junior c1 I think mine is, it was around 180€ I think the cheapest tbh. I love it, does a great job I have 2 bed apt with 3 pets now. Wish I had got the pet one it’s a good bit more expensive but they are worth it! No better hoover imo.

Miele junior I have it does the job I had 2 bed apt. 2 cats. Wish I had got the pet one it’s a lot more cash but they are worth it! No better hoover imo.

Miele junior c1 I think mine is, it was around 180€ I think the cheapest tbh. I love it, does a great job I have 2 bed apt with 3 pets now. Wish I had got the pet one it’s a good bit more expensive but they are worth it! No better hoover imo.

I have a 550 watt Miele check my profile it sucks up everything

Any miele or sebo cylinder would be a great choice. Either can be optioned with a dedicated hard floor brush with no brushbar, no wheels even. And the cylinders themselves have soft rubberized wheels. Best all around option for delicate hard floors.

Well firstly if "sleek" looks are important, all you need to do is go look at used bagless vacuums. They look grimy and awful after a few month's use usually. The bins get covered in grime and cloudy. I always found the dyson advertisements amusing where people have them mounted to the wall in the living room, knowing how they look after some use. Ease and cleanliness of maintainence is another point to make. With something like the miele c1, you just throw out the bag when full. They compress the dirt down so they effectively hold way more debris than a bagless vac, then when it does get full, it's clean to dispose of. There's no dust flying around coating the outside of the vacuum itself. The bag acts as the main filter, so you are essentially replacing the filter each time you empty it. This means no filters to constantly bash the dust out of or wash. The other filters on a bagged vac don't get caked with dust, so they only need swapping out occasionally and won't spill dirt all over when removed. Basically, you don't have to think about vacuum maintenance nearly as much, or worry that the vac is losing performance because of some hidden filter somewhere loading up with dirt. And the vacuum itself doesn't end up looking like a dusty mess nearly as much or as quickly. What floor surfaces do you have? The miele c1 lineup is generally pretty good but some models don't handle carpet as effectively.

There are several different ways you could go with this. What would you consider a "long" hose? Smaller carry-able canister type vacs like an oreck shoulder vac could work. Though they aren't hepa, and personally not a big fan of them. Small bags, small motors, bit noisy etc. Slightly bigger machines like a Miele C1 would be great, they are pretty lite but more capable. Hose might not be long enough for leaving the canister on the floor and climbing a ladder to reach high up for example. But for filtration and suction, great choice. Similar in size and characteristics would be a Sebo K or E series machine. A Numatic Henry is a personal favorite of mine for whole house dusting. The hoses are a bit longer than average, the tools are good, and the extention tubes themselves have a nice trick. Unlike most canisters where the curved extension part is the hand grip, and then you place the tools at the end of the straight tube section, with Numatic vacuums you can reverse that. You can put the curved end of the extension at the end with a tool attached while the straight section is what you grasp while cleaning. This gives you the perfect angle for ceiling fans or the tops of moldings and picture frames. Downside with a numatic is the weight and possibly bulk, they aren't very small or lite and might be a struggle to carry around. There are several options as you can see. Depends what you want to prioritize most I think. And side note, I think an extension hose can be bought separately and attached to any of these machines for extra reach if the default length isn't sufficient. Sebo themselves sell an extension hose. Numatic might as well, otherwise I know aftermarket extra long hoses are avaliable for Numatic machines. Miele you'd have to get a little more creative since they don't really sell one themselves, and they use a larger than average diameter. You can get a 35 to 32mm adapter and then attach a genetic extension hose to the miele hose. Only annoying thing is then the miele tools wouldn't fit at the end of the extension hose, so you'd almost need a duplicate attachment set.

We hebben gewoon een standaard miele stofzuiger (dus zo'n ding met een zak) en die gaat volgens mij al meer dan 20 jaar mee.

I bought mine originally cuz I had a husky and it annihilated the shedding problem easily

I second Miele, its the only vacuum I recommend these days. Mine works like brand new after 13 years.

Can very comfortably recommend Miele. Simple corded vacuum cleaner with a bag like the classic series. 

Miele C1 is extremely light weight and all of the wheels are on separate casters. Very easy. The non-powered head from the dog/cat version still provides plenty of agitation for throw rugs.

If you get a Miele the c1 are one year warranty complete are 3 year unless it’s the home care model after it I killed mine (unusual circumstances) it should be fine I used about 10 years in 3 long story but I love them they are the best I had a c1 I didn’t know the difference in warranties … I will stay with Miele for ever ! Just getting  complete  so I have 3 years ! Or the complete home care line too 

Depends if you want a powered brush for carpet/rugs, c1 very short cord, so c3 or new guard series in miele or k or e series on sebo, e3 has powered head, e2 includes a torbo air powered head for rugs , and e1 just straight suction

I also prefer bagged. I have experience with the miele classic c1 and kenmore elite 21814. Both are great. Miele is super light and easier to carry. Best choice if you have stairs. But I like how close to the ground the kenmore gets (but it is fairly heavy to carry up or down stairs). If you can afford it, it's definitely worth investing in a high quality vacuum especially of you have pets.

Sounds like most of your surfaces are hardwood vs carpet. If the carpet is low pile, you might be able to get a suction-only machine with a turbo floor tool. I recommend limiting your search to bagged models, none of the bagless models will provide the HEPA filtration you need. Are you in or near a city that has a vacuum dealer? If yes, they will assess your needs and work with you (discounts, demonstrations, etc.), its possible to get an entry level upright or canister in your budget and HEPA needs (Riccar Superlite, Miele C1). Most dealers have used models they refurbished at deep discounts from new/MSRP and have HEPA technology. Riccar, Filter Queen, Rainbow, Kirby, Sebo, Miele U1 and many others will meet your budget as a refurbished option.

Another poster said it: Miele C1. The Classic C1 or Turbo C1, both are pure suction machines, no powerhead, and small/lightweight. I'd do a basic C1, then add the handheld turbo tool for the stairs and the parquet twister for the hardwood floors. Miele's new FiberTeQ Allfloor attachment is another option ($100 add on). If you buy from a local dealer, they will discount it or throw in attachments as a package deal.

Miele C1 is hands down the best vacuum for the money!

I’ve owned the Miele C1 for the past 10 years (+/-) and love it. Best vacuum I’ve ever owned (hands down). Still performs like it did day one. And it was relatively affordable.

I bought a Miele C1 online and I’m happy with it. I normally try to go brick and mortar, but felt placated by what I read online—particularly on the vacuum sub.

It’s very good if you buy the turbo Miele brush attachment. https://a.co/d/erXDgBl

Yes I little bit over your budget but the best vacuum out there. https://a.co/d/fxm5xqZ

Not at all if you buy the turbo brush.

You can start with this one that is $300 and buy the turbo brush later. https://a.co/d/2lA3ef6

My border collie is a champion shedder. I learned the hard way not to get a vacuum that rolls up the hair on a roller. Get the basic, classic Miele C1. Expensive but so perfect and it will last forever. Bonus tip: I spritz a tiny bit of white tea on the collection bag and it makes my house smell good.

Love the Miele C1. Would not hesitate to recommend it for laminate. It’s very light weight and I believe a great compromise between suction power and maneuverability.

Totally feel this. Miele = beast mode suction, but stick = grab and go. Keep both! Miele for deep cleans, stick for daily chaos 👌

Miele C1 or C3 canister. Way more power, built to last, eats pet hair. Game changer for rugs.

I’d look for a used miele c1 or other c series. They’re built to really last and I see them for around $200 on marketplace in my area. Ebay has a certified refurb one for $280.

I agree!! I love my V12! I have two aussies and need the option to get a quick clean at times to contain the fur! I have miele C1 from years ago which I try to use like once every 2 weeks for a deep clean(have the parquet attachment, but nothing substantial for the limited carpet-does minimal for that), a V12 for pre-company/occasion cleaning and quick spots where I don't want to get out the cord, and a eufy L60 SES for like twice weekly cleaning since I'm a mom and lazy at times. They are a TEAM and nobody can tell me otherwise lol. I think everyone hopes for one to rule them all, but I'm a fan of multiple things that have their niche.

I have a shark pet canister bag less vac and it’s amazing. Power head never clogs and we have 3 long haired people in the house. The Miele c1 is also good, but we needed that power head.

Miele C1 - $300 or less usually. Pure suction bagged. From what I see online it has the strongest suction of any vacuum other than central vacuum systems. I have one but with the electric option for a brush roll since I have 50% carpet. They are ultra quiet.

I agree that there are some brands that are wickedly expensive and not worth the price of entry. I do think that the Miele C1 for $279 is the steal of the century and it has a 5yr warranty (I think). Buying a SEBO Dart for $500 might seem like a lot, but with a 10 year warranty (which is the minimum I think a vacuum would last from this company) means that you’ve only paid $50/yr for the vacuum. However, if you just cannot fathom or are unable to think about such a purchase right now or in the immediate future Sanitaire is a great brand with semi- and fully-commercial offerings.

Miele c1, has been good for me. I use the parquet twister for hardwood and an Amazon turbo bristle brush for carpets. My house is almost all hard wood with some low pile carpets

the Miele Classic C1 is probably the best if you want top-tier cleaning power with a super durable build. Handles hardwood like a dream and has adjustable suction for rugs. If you need something cheaper but still solid, the Bissell CleanView Swivel Pet is a great option too. I was tired of vacuums that either scratched my floors or didn’t clean my rugs properly, but [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Calidad_Precio/comments/1jcnyw1/best_vacuums_for_vinyl_floors_in_2025_gentle_and/) helped me find the right one. Definitely worth a read!

It’s difficult because we’ve been programmed with marketing dollars that a “vacuum” = cordless stick. Which is not the case! If you want something decent, you’ll need something *corded and bagged*. Miele Classic C1, Complete C3, Sebo k1, Henry Xtra. These are all very light in the hand (lighter than a stick) since the motor glides along behind you. Also - All of the brands above also sell an additional turbo brush meant for pet hair on furniture, I’d look at that accessory too!

You’re likely looking at reviews for the C1 “pure suction”. Which is not suitable for carpet. At a minimum you’ll want the C1 cat and dog (has a powerhead) or a Sebo k3.

Check out r/vacuumcleaners As mentioned Miele and Sebo are top brands. You can safely ignore any shark or Dyson recs. They’re garbage. As is anything bagless.

Vacuum wars is a paid shark shill and not to be trusted. Hell Chris even appeared in a shark commercial. BIFL vacuums absolutely exist. They’re corded and bagged made by brands like Miele and Sebo.

Never again with Dyson. I saved up and found a sale for a floor model of a Miele C1 and I'm never going back to the mainstream brands. It is amazing. It actually seems like I need to do less dusting since getting the Miele and just keeping up w my regular vacuuming routine.

I’ve got a toddler and I’ve found myself vacuuming every night because I hate crunchy floors, blegh! Here’s my current situation: - I got a Miele Classic C1. I use it mainly upstairs because it’s a little unwieldy to drag it up and down stairs (with said toddler, plus two cats). I LOVE the bag and how there’s no roller for my hair to clog up. for upstairs and it’s amazing but a pain in the ass to drag up and downstairs every night. It works great on the thick carpet in our hallway/landing and the hardwood, but it’s a bit too strong for the Ruggable in my kid’s room, so I put it on its lowest setting and try to keep things chill. - Downstairs, I vacuum the kitchen (tile) and living room (hardwood and another Ruggable) with my old Shark Navigator lift-away. The roller is always encased in my hair, I hate dealing with the cord, I HATE the canister and how gross it gets, and I hate how it spit backs tiny things at me (like sand or the tiny rocks from our driveway). I’d like to get something for downstairs that has no roller (necessity), preferably cordless or a cord that retracts, isn’t too gigantic, and has good suction but not so good that it makes vacuuming the Ruggable a pain. I’m not too picky about whether or not it has a bag but I do like the bagged option from a sensory perspective… Does this unicorn vacuum exist? I’d probably go up to $1,000 with my budget if I could find something that comes close to checking those boxes.

Just bought a Sebo D4 last weekend. 10 year warranty (no paperwork required for service - they use serial number). Super long cord. Big bags. Great filter. Easy maintenance. Power head brush pops right out for cleaning and has no exposed bearings. It replaced a Miele C1 which is also good, but too small for our house and lacks a power head. 

Honestly.... if you have $400 cash money.... camp out on FB Marketplace, Offerup, and Craigslist. I'd swoop on the best used model available. Be patient. If you're okay buying used, this would maximize you budget and give you a workhorse for a decade. I'm in Southern California ... there's several SEBO models, used, in great shape between $180 and $400 on Offerup. Quick check on Offerup and there's several Miele C1 for $70-250. Your region may vary. Sebo and Miele have an EXCELLENT network of repair places for their vacuums and parts can be ordered if need be.

Miele C1, it is corded though but everything works very well

Im a conservator of over 20 years you dont need a nilfisk, i dont know who decided to make museums buy those. just need one with variable speed and HEPA filtratration. I got a Miele c1 for like $300 and its great. you can get a eureka or something on amazon that does the same. but you need variable speed and HEPA and i recommend one you can afford to replace the bags on you

Miele is really good imo

I bought a Miele c1 based on friends recs and it's been excellent (I have pets and endless hair everywhere). Could not justify Dyson prices nor their politics.

I actually got mine for $285 during a Black Friday sale with a turbo brush

The Classic C1. It's amazing. It cleans up pet messes and home renovation messes!

I love my C1!!! I recently bought it, and am so glad I did.

Miele. Have had our platinum since 1998, Capricorn since 2005, C1 since 2005, C1 since 2009, another Capricorn since 2013, and C3 since 2015. All still working beautifully, only issues were with the 2013 Capricorn, which has been to the repair shop multiple times - bad apple blended with an aggressive housekeeper. We would never consider purchasing anything but Miele. Because of our positive experience with the vacuum, we bought a Miele refrigerator and a Miele dishwasher in 2013 and both are still going strong with minor repairs along the way. Miele is well worth the investment.

The two “compact” offerings from Miele, which are engineered specifically for small homes with all hard flooring, include the Miele Compact C1 and Miele CX1 Boost. There is a like-new open-box Compact C1 on eBay right now for $299, but I would upgrade to the parquet twister floor head of which you can choose two widths - wide and extra wide. Seller: “Amber and Mika’s Store” …I almost bought it but decided to get a CX1 Boost, instead. I also have a V15, but man the floor head is so narrow. Feels like it takes forever to use it! Suction could be better, but it’s about the strongest cordless stick available, it and the Miele HX2.

I am not fond of the Miele C1, and I wasn’t in love with my E3 or D4. I love my C3, though. I would like to try the K3. I thought it wasn’t as powerful as the E and D series units, but I guess I was wrong. This Sebo lady on YouTube claimed they all have the same level of airflow and suction.

this always happens, I search the internet all week for a good vacuum deal and couldn’t find one, the moment I buy the miele c1 this comment pops up. Now I have to return the miele for the sebo lol

I use my Miele C1 for dusting and it works very well, but it’s also a better floor vacuum than my Dyson was, so you may end up using it for everything

It is easy to move around on its wheels, but a bit bulky to carry up/down stairs

Miele C1 is basically a perfect option for what you’re describing besides cordless, which if you get cordless you loose the ability to get basically anything else you mentioned. Usually I recommend Sebo canisters too but their bags don’t automatically seal like Miele, which usually isnt a problem but you have special health factors with you breaking out in hives so its a bonus, generally though a bagged canister will be good, when a health factor is involved it always should take priority over a convenience factor, it just so happens that bagged fills every other requirement too.

Most will recommend Miele C1 but the C3 is a superior model with longer cord and wand (a common complaint of shorter cord and wand with C1) as well as running quieter if you’re budget allows.

I just replaced my bissell pet vacuum (2-1/2 years old and busted) with a Miele C1 after researching here and in r/buyitforlife there’s some good information in both but you’ll have to do some digging based on what works best for the types of floors you have.

It depends on your house: Robot vacuum: have this if you do not have pets or wet dirts to smear around Cordless Vacuum: tbh I’m having fun with shark, just need to clear it each time I use it but that’s ok, this is for daily, I need this because I have pets and the bunch of attachments are great for furniture etc. Miele C series: good if you can get the parquet tool head. This is good for a major once a week jobs Wet dry: think tineco, some people swear by them, I used them for 1 week and could not stand the smell that lingers if you don’t dry it out right or that I’ve become the vacuum cleaner. I’d have the shark with a stick to use daily or crumbs + Miele C1/Karcher WD1 for when I want a big job done every now and then

It depends on your house: Robot vacuum: have this if you do not have pets or wet dirts to smear around Cordless Vacuum: tbh I’m having fun with shark, just need to clear it each time I use it but that’s ok, this is for daily, I need this because I have pets and the bunch of attachments are great for furniture etc. Miele C series: good if you can get the parquet tool head. This is good for a major once a week jobs Wet dry: think tineco, some people swear by them, I used them for 1 week and could not stand the smell that lingers if you don’t dry it out right or that I’ve become the vacuum cleaner. I’d have the shark with a stick to use daily or crumbs + Miele C1/Karcher WD1 for when I want a big job done every now and then

How big is your house? Cord length can be a huge pain, and the Miele C1 has a comically short cord. I have a 950 sqft house and it’s annoyingly short even for a house this small. Good vacuum otherwise.

I can say the Miele C1,2, and 3 bags or like $45 for the XL ones and it’s 8 bags or for you, a year supply. though you might only go through 5-6 cause they do compact the dust pretty well. And it comes with 2 pre motor filters and 2 post motor filters. So you get to change it’s primary filter every time you change bags, the pre motor filter which is what keeps the motor clean and running for a long time every 4 bags and the post motor filter which is the the last stand filter for anything that might have made it through every 4 bags. Also air flowing through a MERV 13 filter several times is the equivalent to a hepa filter cause they filter the same .3 micron particles and hepa filters 99% and MERV 13 filters 75-85%. So this would be close if not better than “hospital grade filtration.” And if you must they sell a hepa grade post motor filter as well for most models. So bagged would be great for your needs, and for an extra $45 you get a machine that will last at least twice if not up to four times as long as any baggless vacuum. I also own a Dyson stick for the past 2 years and my dad owns a Dyson animal ball for the past 15 years and they work pretty darn well. Shark might not last as long but the don’t leak dust either and is cheaper from what I’ve seen so its also is a viable option. Best of luck!!

I’ve been using a Miele C1 for over 6 years now with two shedding dogs and a messy toddler, still works like day one.

Miele pet is awesome. C1 I think is for smaller space that’s what I have.

Look on marketplace, i got a miele c1 used for 150 cdn

I have a C1 as well and I love it. Well worth the money

Mieles are repairable and very easy to open i have opened a c1 in 5 minutes

Given how little you'd use it, the Jill will last a very long time and it is a great value for the price. However, the C1 is a better machine. Even with its standard non HEPA bags, any microscopic dust it might stir up would be negligible because you'll be using it so infrequently and it really just doesn't matter that much. This article explains why that's not a major concern: [https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/do-you-need-a-vacuum-with-a-hepa-filter/](https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/do-you-need-a-vacuum-with-a-hepa-filter/) A big advantage to the C1 is its suction control, which makes it more versatile for tasks like cleaning rugs or above floor areas, like drapes and furniture. It's casters are more maneuverable as well. A high quality, well sealed vacuum (like the Miele C1) can be just as effective as a "HEPA" vacuum, and that for someone who uses it very infrequently, the difference is really not worth worrying about. The C1 will straight up clean better.

I have a Miele C1 and it is exceedingly average. Not sure I would buy another.

Haha I love the heading. There’s already a ton of good advice in here, but what really helped me was that [detailed database of vacuums](https://www.reddit.com/user/lacking_foyer48/comments/1lj76h3/vacuum_cleaners_compared_comprehensive_datasheet/) another redditor put together. I used it to line up all the specs of the Miele products that people kept recommending. I was torn between the C1 and the C3 for a while but decided to save a bit of money and go with the C1. Been really happy with it, and honestly, if the C1 is this solid, I can only imagine how good the C3 is. You can compare all the brands in the database, but for me it really made narrowing things down so much easier.

Have to agree. I remember getting my first Shark after my Dyson died and I thought I had found the holy grail of vacuums. I’ve bought 5 Sharks since (over about 16 years) and they always eventually go sideways. Bought a Miele C1 in 2023 and it’s incredible at how much suction it has. Plus it’s SO QUIET. And the C1 is not even their top of the line version.

Miele C1 and Henry 160 are basically kinda equivalent, with some tradeoffs. Henry has a longer cord and bigger bag capacity. It is also fully sealed However the C1 has an automatic cord winder, and stows more compactly If you have enough budget, can stretch for a Lindhaus HF6. I have both a Henry and HF6 and the HF6 is superior in almost every way. Henry is a great machine though

Personally I would get a Bissell Zing or Miele C1. Both of those break down and can be stored under a bed or in a drawer. You want to stay away from stick vacuums as they require emptying every time and are not designed to be your primary vacuum due to the lack of power.

Literally the comparable Miele C1 in the $600s https://youtu.be/skOlVjrlJRA The vacuum bags I used are made by the OEM who makes them for Kenmore Envrocare. They are identical. I do have some genuine vintage Kenmore bags made by 3m and they are exactly the same in terms of how they don't seal it's a design problem. There needs to be a gasket on the bag not on the plastic bag dock.

A used vacuum cleaner. A Miele C1,the Zero G,SEBO K3.

You will find SEBO and Miele to be on the level of that quality that you're looking for. Those machines are sold based on your flooring type and size house. Gide to SEBO models https://youtu.be/Usz8IAj_qyI Gide to Miele. https://youtu.be/whyDx0ChTcA Kenmore is owned and made in China I wouldn't expect quality I have seen quite a few models die after just a year or two. I think you should keep in mind that even back in the '80s Electrolux canister vacuums typically sold for noth of $800. Most quality Vacuums in the United States sell for $400-1200. You can also sometimes find a deal on open boxes or used machines on marketplace. Hope that helps.

You can pry my Miele C1 from my cold dead hands.

We just bought our 3rd Miele. First one was a C1 about 10yo and was passed on to my FIL, who loves it, when we upgraded to C3. We still have the C3 but just bought a Hx2 pro because I'm getting older and wanted a cordless stock.

Fwiw I have the c1 with no turbo brush, I shed tons of hair and we have a dog with medium/long hair and I feel like the standard attachment gets the hair completely fine. I didn't even know there was a turbo attachment until I saw this post lol!! I've been using it for years. I don't have wall to wall carpet but I do have a few big rugs and I am very sensitive to them being dirty or having hair on them so I feel like it works well enough.

I have a Miele C1 with the cat & dog attachments and a long-coat German Shepherd. Only had the Miele for a couple years but I must've been a little high while changing bags once and forgot to put a fresh bag in. I vacuumed without a bag in it a couple times until I realized my mistake. I spent a few hours taking the case apart which is a huge pain in the ass, and definitely not designed for end-user serviceability. There are very helpful YT videos from professionals that make it easier for sure, but I was able to get the motor out and take the covers and stuff off, then blew all the dust out with an air compressor. Luckily the filters were able to catch most of the debris and only some dust made it to the motor. After a thorough cleaning though, the thing fired right up and works and sounds like new still. So my experience with the Miele is that despite my best efforts to destroy the thing it is an absolute tank and even if it doesn't last a "lifetime," the performance and ruggedness alone make it worth every penny to me.

Miele C1 is a bit over your budget but you should be happy about it, it's really a solid device. https://www.deco.proteste.pt/eletrodomesticos/aspiradores/comparar/miele-classic-c1-powerline-sbaf5/161-150977

Yeah, stick vacuums and canister vacuums are so different. I only ever had upright vacuums but converted to a Miele C1 because it has been filtration than a bagless stick or upright vacuum and it has a longer operation time and more consistent suction power than a cordless stick vacuum.

They should both last long. The Miele S1 Guard has the new bag dock which should prevent the bag from leaking in the compartment from misalignment. The S1 doesn't have any of the drawbacks of the Miele L1 like the downgraded pre-motor filter and the compromised combo tools. As long as you learn to re-seat the bag on the C1 I would say it is equal in cleaning to the S1 Guard so choose whichever has the better sale. Australia got a lot more motor options than the U.S. so also check which model is coming with bigger motor. We don't get the S1 Guard in the U.S. yet but I was surprised to learn the S1 Guard Junior has a 2 piece metal wand while the S1 Guard has a telescoping metal wand. So that may be a deciding feature for you. The suction only Mieles are great for hard floors. You can always add a turbo brush later if you get low pile carpets or rugs but turbos aren't good for high pile, plush, and shag carpets. I'm not familiar with Australian stores but I found this [Miele C3 Total Care](https://www.thegoodguys.com.au/miele-complete-c3-total-care-bagged-vacuum-bronze-pearl-12396520) $294 AUD at The Good Guys. It looks like an in-store only but I would buy it over the S1 Guard Junior. The C3 has the same bag re-seating issue but once you learn that the C3 has a longer cord, a tool storage compartment, and this model comes with the turbo floor brush and the mini turbo brush.

Probably the Kenmore bagged canisters. 600 or elite for the ease of use and fingertip controls. Maybe the elite crossover? They're not ultra well built and may only last your business about 5 years, but you have to be gentle on them. Mieles and Sebos will last much longer but you need to spend a little more than 500 for something that's carpet capable. The sebo k3 is their cheapest option tho (from a dealer ofc). The warranties don't apply ofc, but I think sebo might honor 1 year for commercial use? You should check that out. I know many cleaning businesses in my area who use Mieles, from the classic C1 all the way up to the brilliant. It depends what you prefer and what your clients demand. My sister has some carpets but her cleaning person only uses a suction Miele and my sister doesn't care (and the cleaning person does an excellent job). The worst Miele/sebo outperforms most vacuums. Just make sure to buy large boxes of original bags for the bulk discount and to make them last. With any new product, you're going to want to do a quick educational tour of the product with the folks who'll need to use it so they're getting the most out of it and aren't encumbered. And especially so they don't accidentally damage the machine. Commercial machines exist as well, but may not be as convenient and maneuverable for cleaning homes. Canisters are the only option imo for their versatility and reduced fatiguing.

TL;DR: go to a Miele dealer (use their website to find one) buy the C3 homecare+ for full home cleaning, demote the Dyson to quick jobs, never look back. If you have gen5 detect money (and interest) buy the vacuum that made Dyson increase their filtration standard: a Miele. I thought it was funny Dyson did this as it retroactively pulled the facade off of their previous marketing. For the best performance on hard floors you'll want a machine with their parquet twister attachment, it's what made me fall in love with Mieles in middle school. Currently it works like a dream for my kitty and her ways. (And that original one still works for my parents 17 years later). Technically Mieles cheapest machine, the c1 classic, functions just as well on hard floors when using the same tool as their most expensive machine, the c3 brilliant. They have the same motor, use the same bags, and have the same filter media, but the c3s are MUCH quieter, fully sealed, have bigger bag compartments, and store their tools onboard. The c2 models are a happy in between. They're fully sealed, are quieter but not as quiet as the c3, and also have the onboard tools. Contemporary c2s are made in China with German motors. They're just as well built as the German plastic machines. Technically they're better built because Miele innovated on the s5000 shell which became the c2. Having taken apart both, the c2s construction is more like a brilliant than the c1 classic. As of right now, only Mieles c3s are built completely in Germany. All their bagged models use German made motors but the remainder are formed in China. All the bagless models are completely made in China. No knock against Chinese manufacturing, it's excellent obviously, but that's the T with Mieles current production chain for vacuums. I like my first gen triflex even. Because your budget is $600 (medium-high) and you have carpets, that complicates my recommendation: If you're buying a machine you should buy the one that fully encapsulates your use and use it how you like. Don't purposefully buy something that does less when you can use more, and you can afford more. No matter what you buy it'll outlive and outperform the gen 5. A straight suction Miele might even marginally outperform it on your carpets... Then, you have the Dyson Gen 5 vs the v12/15 (which tells me you care about "the best", technology, and convenience physical constraints be damned) which points me to recommend you Mieles top of line canisters: the c3 electro models (Kona, Marin, Brilliant/ homecare, homecare e, homecare +). They come standard with the electro carpet brush and the parquet twister, as well as the HEPA filter. The Marin adds some longevity and QOL electronics like a filter life timer, parking shutoff switch, and auto suction as well as the seb236, Mieles low profile and led-lit carpet brush. The Brilliant, the one I think you should get, has what the Marin has plus fingertip controls & a display. This makes switching surfaces and tools on the fly so much easier. It also kinda obviates the parking switch. You should buy them from a vacuum store, miele dealer, to get the best deal and get the homecare models with the longer warranty and more tools. From a dealer, you can likely get the Kona for $850, Marin for $1100, and brilliant for $1500, but you might have a harder time finding that brilliant deal as it kinda pads the coffers. Like I said, the c1 classic and a parquet twister will get you the same clean, but it's time to demote the Dyson and get a real vacuum as your primary. The Dyson can be used for quick runs and it'll thank you for it (by living longer than 5). Your carpets will also likely thank you for it. Ik I blew past your budget, but it really seems like you can afford it so 🤷🏾‍♂️ Sebos have better warranties, and some like them better, but they're marginally louder, less powerful, and filter less well than a Miele. And when comparing to a c3, Mieles bags & filters are cheaper in their allergy bundle. Mieles also have a better feel in hand... Which is the whole point imo. You can likely try a Sebo wherever you go to buy that Miele homecare+ 😘 so make sure to try it out too. I think Mieles parquet twister and seb236 are better than sebos articulating floor tool or et1. But that's my opinion. The fully in price recommendation for hard floors would the c3 gala or the c2 hard floor. Marginally in budget but all inclusive machine would be the c1 centennial (if you can find it for $650 and buy the parquet twister). Another option, but a little stretch is the c1 homecare with electro brush (only available from Miele dealers). Even an abused Miele will last a decade. Get the nicest one you can afford, take care of it, and have a perfectly clean home for more than 20 years. No joke. Also, your Dyson is leaving stuff in the carpets that an electro Miele will capture. Your first bag will fill fast (as does everyone's unless they already had a Miele/Sebo).

Just got a Miele C1 after countless visits to this sub for days. I’m in the UAE so it was for 999AED, used up rewards on my card and got it down to 499AED. Claimed the free 4 dust bags too. Great piece of equipment to be getting excited over in my 30s. We’d gotten 3 bagless ones over 3 years. Took the buy once cry once approach and just happy & content now.

Miele canister vacuum. I have a C1

I’d grab a Miele C1 or C3 from John Lewis. Seems there’s a sale on! (Depending on which one fits your use case.) I’m not familiar with the C2. Others can comment on that

Miele C1 with parquet attachment would be perfect imo

This comment really put me onto the Miele C1, after a bit of research i picked one up today. solid device, thank you for the recommendation!

\> Miele Classic C1, Complete C3, Sebo k1, Henry Xtra. Which one of these is $250 was my first thought then I saw this was for someone in europe. So the Meile Classic C1, Complete C2 (but not the C3), Sebo K1 and henry xtra would be under 250 euros. I'd also ad the Sebo Felix 4. It's a european model of the felix without the power head that sells for 200 euros then you could get a used ET-1 on ebay to bring it close to the 250 euro budget (they normally go for around 100 euros). ( Have the felix, don't love it but it's right for some folks). The only problem with all of those is none of them come with powered head and with 50% carpet + pets the dyson/dreme might do better with the active agitation, plus get used more if it's not the cluster fudge of a canister with wands and hoses all over the place and a cord to hook up and pull out every single time you vacuum up a crumb. I would hate using a turbo brush with pets/hair as most don't have an easy brush roll for easy cleaning.

Find a C2 or C3 model with the SBB 300-3 floor brush. Nothing will clean floors better than that. The newer version of the C2 is the Guard S1. The newer version of the C3 is the Guard M1. The Guard L1 is an entirely new vacuum, and is meant to be a lighter version of the C3 / M1, but the L1 has a smaller bag. Edit: they all filter really really well and are sealed systems, and if you add on the HA50 hepa filter (make sure it’s the genuine one from Miele as it’s H13 hepa) it’s top notch. Edit 2: the compact C1 is a also good choice, just NOT the Classic C1 (also known as S2 which is the older version).

As far as other recommendations go, stick vacs that’s are under $300 are mostly built pretty bad. You can get a Compact C1 Miele for $359 on sale, and it will be a better, miles better, than any stick vac in every category. Just as an FYI

I have a Sebo x1 and Sebo x7 and I use to have a Miele c1 I don’t really like bagged vacuums since the dirt sits in them so they absolutely STINK after a few weeks, and if you change the bag every time it stinks, then you’re blowing money since bags aren’t cheap and they can’t be re-used That’s my personal opinion however both the Sebo’s I have a very good at picking up dirt

Slick marketing and name recognition will always muddy the waters if it's a list about longevity, performance, or quality. It's why Bose ends up on every speaker list even though the colloquial joke for decades has been, "no highs, no lows? Must be Bose". I've had a Miele C1 for 6ish years now? Only thing I regret is not getting a higher trim that has or takes the electric head with a beater bar (I don't think the pet model existed at that time?) but it's been a tank and the bags aren't really a hassle and easier to dispose of than a plastic container full of loose crap.

I bought a Miele C1 on eBay about a year ago. It was new in box for $250. Previously, I had been buying Sharks for around the same price point. I always thought Sharks were a good vacuum, and they definitely are compared to many of the other brands, but the suction on the Miele blows the Shark out of the water. The bags are absolutely not an issue and there is so much less dust. The canister style vacuum is also so much easier to move around, especially on stairs.

The Miele C1 is quiet. I use mine on the lowest setting because the suction is very strong, and still is on the lowest setting for carpet.  The downside is the initial price for the vacuum - Mieles are cheaper up front, way more expensive down the line vs Sebo.

I have Miele C1 and Dyson V15. We use Miele when more suction is needed and Dyson for light duty tasks

I bought a Miele c1 last year and I love it. I don't have deep carpet, but I do have four furred beings living with me.

It has two height adjustments on the large attachments and I think six auctions adjustments

Just got a Miele Classic C1 for a great price and it's so powerful, it's sucking my carpet off it's pad at the lowest setting! I guess I gotta wait to vacuum after I put my coffee table down.

Miele Compact C1/2 is the answer

I have a bagged Miele cylinder as my main vacuum and a cordless bagless stick as a daily run around/quick pick up machine. There's no way the bagless stick could ever serve as my main vacuum. The Miele serves as a regular vacuum, DIY clean up machine, duster etc...has served me well for 9 years now and just keeps going and going. I cannot imagine the cordless stick I have lasting anything like as long - it's already feeling rickety and creaky after less than a year and I take good care of it. If you can afford it - Bagged corded vacuum for your main vacuum, cordless stick for a secondary run around.

As a Dyson owner, get a C series Miele. Especially if you have a pet.

There’s no single vac that does it all except for maybe a super heavy super expensive traditional canister like a Miele. For an everyday hard floor vac (and light carpet vac) the best is Levoit on Amazon that's about $200. It's a Dyson-like machine that overcomes a lot of the longtime design issues with Dysons (such as, it can stand up by itself -- what a concept). But we also keep the Dyson around for a more aggressive carpet vac when we need it. We also have a Eureka boss -- powerful and dependable small canister vac. And a monster shop vac in the basement. Dysons are great but they're really expensive and their air filtering system is overly complicated and tends to lose efficiency. If you own a Dyson, watch all the available Youtubes on how to clean it with pressurized air so you can keep it running. Given the competition from newer manufacturers like Levoit, I think it's going to be harder for Dyson to justify selling floor vacs for close to $1000.

I didn't think so, but I've only used their stick vacuum. It had issues, and when I was in the market for a new vacuum 5-6 years ago I had a couple of friends and also a couple of local vacuum shops recommending I avoid Dyson. I decided to go with a Mielle canister instead. I have two huskies and it does a great job with all surfaces. The canister is very light and not clunky at all to pull around (which was my biggest worry). I'd recommend checking this brand out if you're unsure about Dyson.

Ha, I'm on the other side of this. Dyson cordless battery lasted 2 years, replaced under warranty, failed again after a year and a half so I pitched it. Back to a corded canister miele and I love it.

Just got a replacement - Miele corded canister. My god. THAT is a vacuum cleaner. It actually lifts dirt off the floors! Go figure. Bye bye Dyson. 🥳🍾🍻

Just got a replacement - Miele corded canister. My god. THAT is a vacuum cleaner. It actually lifts dirt off the floors! Go figure. Bye bye Dyson. 🥳🍾🍻

As much as I love my Miele corded, canister vacuum, I decided to get a Dyson V12 Detect slim last year. The Miele is mostly used on carpet now or really dirty jobs. But for hardwood and stairs, the Dyson gets used much more frequently. The green light makes it really easy to see if there are missed spots. Since I'm mostly with hardwood floors, it does a pretty good job. But it's not without faults. Cleaning it is a pain if you are picking up a lot of fine dust or powder since the filters get clogged pretty fast. For regular dirt and dust, it can go a while without needing a deep clean. Also, emptying it is annoying too since it releases a cloud of dust. You need to either do it outside or wrap the garbage bag around it to minimize the dust. The power is nowhere near as good as a corded vacuum so I don't even bother using it on carpets. Even with all those downsides, the convenience still results in me vacuuming much more often in high traffic areas so my place is much cleaner overall. If you don't have a ton of carpets or they're lower pile, it might be worth it. But if you can only have one vacuum, I would still suggest a good canister instead since it's just more capable and will be higher quality. Just much more of a hassle to plug in and move around to different spots.

OP, I've wrestled with dog hair clogs myself. My Miele bag canister crushed hardwood, though my older Dyson and Shark weren't much better. I ended up checking ConsumerRating for ideas since it cut through the nonsense, and my cleaning life got a bit easier. Best to stick with something proven for fur and floor.

Miele! Seriously a game changer with my two long haired, triple coated dogs.

The first time I used the carpet steamer after vacuuming with the Miele there was 1 tiny little ball of fur like the size of a peanut. I was used to the carpet steamer pulling up gross, soggy clumps of hair that the vacuum had missed. Worth every penny!

We bought a canister during COVID germ panic and I am never going back. We have pets and the difference in what the canister picked up vs our upright Hoover was astounding. Edited to say we went with Miele.

I only use Miele. I use the bagged canister design for the whole house and for every mess. Even pet hair.

I thought the same thing, got a Miele and would never go back. Bags last way longer than you think, I look after dogs for a living so 10-15 dogs in the space per day, daily vacuuming, 1 bag every 2 1/2 months give or take. Don’t have to take the thing outside to empty it because of dust. It’s wonderful. Just my input.

I don't like the bags because they get really smelly in between cleanings. I have a dog and 3 cats andan the exhaust coming off the miele I have is rank lol. I always have to change out the bag before it's full because the smell is so bad. And yes the filter is good, and I take care of my machine. It's the nature of the beast when cat hair and dander is left to sit for so long in a vac bag. Something that doesn't happen in a canister vacuum. Pros and cons. 🤷

So that confirms it for me... I'd just go with a cheap one for quick cleanups at this point. They all seem to be awful so why spend extra? I have a corded bagged canister miele that has been solid as a regular vacuum. These cordless bagless ones all seem to be garbage and not good for deep cleaning.

Miele canister or Riccaro upright. Bagged vacuum all the way.

Bagged vacuums are needed if you have significant allergies. Once I’ve removed something from my home, I don’t want to have to breath it again when I empty the vacuum canister. I actually have three - a bagged, corded canister (Miele), for deeper cleaning; a bagged cordless (Hoover OnePower) for quick pickups on carpet; and a bagless cordless (Dyson V12) for quick pickups on hard surfaces. This seems to keep my house the cleanest. IMO the Dyson doesn’t have enough suction power for carpet even for quick pickups.

I would say that anyone whose allergies are significant enough that they are concerned about them would benefit from a bagged vacuum with good sealing and a HEPA filter, that also does well at deep cleaning not only floors but upholstery, curtains etc. That’s why I have my Miele. If they are not concerned, they can use whatever vacuum they want. I’ve had people on this sub say they think allergens don’t go into the air when you empty out a bagless vacuum. If someone like that has allergies but prefers a bagless that doesn’t do a good job on carpet, it’s their life.

Thank you for your reply! I did try a corded Miele in 2017, which was allegedly the most powerful vacuum they had at the time (within the 900 W limit, of course). I was not impressed, at least not enough to actually buy it, even though it was much cheaper than they are nowadays. I'm sure they have gotten better over the last 7 years, but by how much? And is it really enough to defend the insane price tag? I understand that this price level is "the new normal", and therefore by definition not "insane" anymore, but still – I'm having a really hard time dishing out all that money without getting something absolute premium in return. And nowadays, I don't.

We had a Dyson V8 Animal that lost suction power pretty badly over the course of about 2 years. We got it serviced and did everything they recommended but it's just a useless piece of crap. Ended up going back to a plug in Miele.

I used to work at a local vac shop in Ottawa Ontario. We used to get a lot of refurbished V6s, V7s and V8s, mind you this was like 8 years ago. I got myself a V6 for upstairs ( It was like $180) and a V8 for the living room and that was about $230. i dont even know if Dyson still does the Refurbs, they still come with a one year warranty if i remember. After the one year warranty is up i would use the 3rd party batteries for the Dysons. Its cheaper and you can get 2 some times. I also got a refub Miele cannister and my wife can tell quickly if i vaccumed with the Miele instead of the Dysons. You need to have the power on high for the Dysons to suck as good as the canisters, but it kills the battery stupid quick.

I thought me with 2 Miele cannisters was weird but here we are

The miele cannisters have rubberized pieces where contact may occur, as well as on the tool head. I'm not sure the 5 vs 10 year warranty matters as far as these vacuums go. I know people have had issues,but it's unlikely. You don't have to spend 1k or more to get excellent performance from Miele and Sebo, and preowned isn't a bad option considering how long they last. Anecdotally I found a Sebo X4 Automatic for 10$, the cord was destroyed and it needed a brush roll. 65$ worth of parts, some cleaning, and this thing is rocking. So marketplace isn't an unreasonable place to find one.

Miele - with a bag, cord, etc. No complaints! We had a Shark, really didn’t like it (though we still have a Shark handvac).

Sluit ik me volledig bij aan, op aanraden van mijn moeder. Na 2 complete miskopen, inclusief een dyson, was een Miele met zak echt een verademing.

Same here. Miele with bags, works great

When they were new to the market, the rep would try and 'sell' it to the staff, but we knew that it was a bunch of malarkey. Miele vacs use bags, yes, but they're clean, easy to replace and suck harder that ...well, that part writes itself. Buy a Miele Also, their claim was 'no loss of suction' like the bag vacs did, but if they bagged models start with 20 and drop to 14, but the Dyson stays perpetually at 10, who has the better unit? Aaaaand also, if there is no loss of suction, but then you fire up an AIR-DRIVEN motor head, you lose suction. It was all a bag of doodoo that a Dyson couldn't even suck up. Marketing will always trump a sucker.

Don’t bother with cordless or Dyson. Grab a meile bagged vacuum, then come back here 6m later and thank us for the suggestion

Shark is okay at first but this video isn't a good video to base it on they just throw the stuff on there without it sitting and getting into the carpet. You're better off with a Miele vacuum that has a bag and will be less dusty from emptying a non bagged canister.

If you get a room a for daily upkeep, get the one that empties itself. I love my room a but wish I would’ve gotten the self-emptying base. My upright is a Riccar. I’ve also owned a Miehle canister vac. Both are outstanding

I have a meile canister vacuum I use for that area. Love it and it works perfectly!

Sounds like you are on the right path. For what it's worth, we have loved our miele's. We have both a floor canister that stays on the lower level and a rechargeable stick for everywhere else.

I’ve got a Miele wired vacuum I’ve owned 10+ years and gone through 3 Dyson cordless in that time. They’re handy to quickly pick up dirt etc but definitely not BIFLish. My Dyson v6 is starting to do that dreaded on and off pulsing thing I’ve had before and replacing battery and filters and cleaning with air compressor etc have done nothing.

Get a Miele. I’ve had the same Miele for 15 years now. Thing is a tank.

Yep - Shark is great and cheap, too for carpets. I use a tank Miele vacuum (German made) for cleaning the car and the hardwood floors, though as it's light and has variable suction.

I really like mine, but I don't think it was *that* expensive - maybe $500-600 10 years ago?

i was so disappointed by the miele i bought ([proof](https://www.reddit.com/r/VacuumCleaners/comments/hd317t/got_a_miele_disappointed_help/)) that ive since assumed everyone on reddit is a shill and yes i tried the $150 heads and i made sure the vacuum is turned On etc etc

The comment regarding the handle creaky sounds and audible air leak... I have found the audible air leak in multiple Miele canisters (over the years) AND Sebo. I don't think this is a change from previous models I've used. It just seems to be a reality that they don't see as a significant concern (ie. likely to not affect performance in a meaningful way, but preventing it would probably require fittings that would likely add cost, decrease dependability, and in the very least, wear down with not much use to the point that they ultimately start leaking). I really don't think it likely makes a noteworthy difference and they know the benefit:cost situation. As for the creaky handle -with even slight "give" in it, I have definitely noted it, but again, I believe it is one of those, "it doesn't actually affect anything in a meaningful way, but it does allow for the fit and connections as intended" situations. I could be wrong, but if it were an issue, I think warranty costs alone would discourage them from continuing with the practice. BUT, again, there is no doubt, that it is a very real thing. I haven't had an issue with the swivel of the ET-1 but prefer how light and maneuverable it feels to me. The low profile is also much better than \*most\* of the high end power heads I've used. Thank you for the review and thoughts. It is nice to hear about experiences!

Have a Miele canister. Paid a fraction of the price for it when I found one at the thrift store that someone neglected to clean their pet hair out of - but outstanding vaccuum.

I have a Miele canister. Love it! We have a lot of hard surfaces (hard wood and tile). I got the extra large attachment for hard floors, but honestly the normal sized one it comes with would be sufficient.

I have a Miele canister vac that's great for hardwoods and rugs. personally, I prefer it to a stick vacuum (I can use it in couch crevices/on any upholstery, etc), and it's going on 24 years strong.

Well,I did it. I walked into a vacuum cleaner store and repair shop just to see this Sebo upright people refer to. I had already ordered a Kenmore BU4050 based on reviews although I have never seen one. I've been through every vacuum type imaginable in the last - ahem - 40 years. Starting with Electrolux canister on glider rails, a family hand-me-down. Dirt Devil tiny little canister. Hoover upright, Sanitaire commercial upright, Miele stick vac with removable handheld dustbuster thing, Miele canister. Had a Dyson V5 for when the canister was too heavy to pull out. Shark Navigator Pet upright - nimble, easy to use, went under bed - I liked it for a long time but slider for floor type change got stuck and it all those plastic parts got a little rickety. I learned: While cordless is quick and easy, it's also weak suction. Sanitair upright cleaned well on carpet but no accessories. Dysons are pretty colored plastic but all marketing, hurts my wrist, went through 2 batteries, just top heavy, and poor suction. Miele corded stick vacuum had very strong suction but was too heavy and center of mass is midway up so awkward unless you are very strong and was not self standing. Miele canister is great but all those accessories take up a lot of space and I'm over moving canisters around and banging the wall. Bagless was good as a novelty but so messy - the vacuum itself attracted dust and emptying always led to some dust on me. So I wanted a bagged, corded, self-standing, upright that had a low center of gravity, was nimble, no too heavy, and could go under the bed. Even though the sales guy was enthusiastic and informative but not pushy, the Sebo Felix sold itself. I bought the Sebo Felix even though I wasn't going there to buy, just see it. It does every thing I want and is much quieter. 10 year warranty, locally serviced by "Onyx" dealer \[that's what they call official dealers\], give loaner vacs if it takes more than 3 days. The store has been there 26 years, first the father and now the son owns it. They repair every brand of vacuum but only sell Sebo, Miele, and some in-the-wall systems. When I think of all the money I've spend on vacuums .... The good ones were Electrolux, Miele, Sanitaire, and for a while the Shark impressed me. Now I hope the Sebo will be my last vacuum. $700 US, price goes up $200 on September 25 due to tariffs. Dealer said he's sold 17 of them this month from special orders I will return the Kenmore BU4050 unopened when it arrives.

Twenty seven years ago we purchased a Eureka canister that broke within a year. We ended up with a Miele. That thing still runs and I use it to clean my unfinished basement twice a year. My new Miele canister lives on my first floor for hardwood and my Sebo upright in s upstairs for carpeting. The Sebo is heavy but it’s a beast that will definitely outlive me. I now have two very cheap cordless vacuums that I use like Dustbusters. I’ve never understood why people buy that Dyson crap. There are complaints everywhere. There’s a difference between a company that spends money on engineering and quality and one that spend it on advertising. Dyson spends it on advertising. I’d vote for Miele everyday.

The canister is superior for vacuuming furniture, drapes, blinds and other things that accumulate dirt. I use the canister for actual cleaning & my stick for quick pickups. Go cheap with the stick & buy the Miele.

My ex didn't like dragging around the canister vacuum I bought in 2005 and would buy a new Dyson or Shark stick vac every year. My Miele outlasted my marriage 💃🏽

My Miele canister vac is 20 years old this year!

I heart my Miele canisters too. I really do.

I love my Miele canisters. They are not heavy like those old Electrolux that never died.

I have mine on a long enough extension cord that it can cover the entire first floor without unplugging. I suppose an upright would be easier but these canisters do such a good job. I vacuum the kitchen and bathrooms even. I bought them from eBay. I have no idea why anybody would sell a vacuum that works perfectly but they do.

Hardwood floors here. Dyson upright lasted... 9 years, I just looked up when we bought it. It just failed, and it basically outlasted our cats. I was using it a few times a week, sometimes quite heavy use. It's the ball one, animal something. I used it to vacuum up stray litter - I'd fill the receptacle area twice in a single vacuum, 11 litter boxes in one area, 3 in another, so lots of litter got scattered on the floor. Most of our house is hardwood or tile or whatever, not a lot of carpet. Warning - it pulls in so hard that it doesn't move on carpet, except commercial welcome mat type stuff which we have under the litter boxes. What was nice about the Dyson was that I could leave the vacuum at the bottom of the stairs and do the entire stairs with the narrow nozzle because the hose tube thing was so long. Also no bags. Was a bit noisy, and heavy to lug around. We only had to wash it out every now and then. Seems like motor burnt out, or something. We have a Miele canister now, but I haven't had to deal with 8 cats worth of hair, just 1. We got it with the single use bags but got a reusable one, and I've emptied it twice now (from one vacuuming of litter and such). It's very quiet - I often turn it off by accident when it's running - and lightweight. 2 filters and 1 bag, so lots of stuff to replace on a regular basis. It was so quiet I was worried it wouldn't work well, but I've been pleasantly surprised with it. It's on par with the Dyson. Hate the Shark. Used it at work (almost 5 years), virtually useless, and we don't have cats there (lol). Two locations, 4 vacuums. They just don't pull up stuff, don't do anything. They were rated really good by Consumer Reports, but my experience with them was extremely poor. Two failed at the places where I worked, so I ordered 2 more, hoping that the bad ones were just one offs. I'd have to run over the same bit of leaf or whatever a few times to pick it up. I overhauled them etc but no better. New ones that I got for the store (I bought one for one location, then another for the other), same experience. I told the store management not to order them, to find something else. Had bagless Bissels. They burned out after about 5-6 months. I worked for a while at a place that sold them so I bought them somewhat regularly. Felt like a waste of materials and landfill so went for the Dyson after going through maybe 6-8 Bissels. Normally I'm a "buy it once the right way" kind of person, but for some reason I went through a zillion Bissels. The Dyson was a "buy it once the right way" and I hope the Miele is too.

Yep, I can confirm this. We exclusively used a stick vacuum for \~5 years until I finally bit the bullet and bought a Miele. We filled up the bag in a single day before I had even finished all the rooms. I was disgusted that that much stuff had been stuck in our carpet that whole time.

Depends on the Dyson. If it was an upright (especially bagless) it was likely very loud and also not as efficient. These Miele canister vacuums are literally quiet enough that you can hold a normal volume conversation with someone while you clean.

Going off your requirements including 80% carpet 20% hard floors, 2 cats, reliable and easy to repair: you’re looking at $550+. So Sebo Dart or Felix if you want an upright or Miele canister.

Love my Miele canister vacuum, almost never have to de-hair it. Have had it for about 10 years.

Miele. Don't need the super duper pet model. We have 3 dogs and a standard Miele canister model handles it all easily.

When I bought my newest vacuum, I went to Consumer Reports. I use them for so many things! They recommended my microwave that has been working for 21 years… Anyway, I used them recently (a year or so ago) for vacuums, their top rated one was a Miele canister model. I’ve only ever used upright models, but I splurged (horrifically expensive) and I’m completely amazed. I’m addicted to vacuuming now. I will have this vacuum for the rest of my life. You can also ask for recommendations on r/buyitforlife.

I replaced an old Dyson DC21 with the C3, and I'll tell you, the Miele canister is way easier to drag around than the heavy clunky old Dyson ever was.

It's just simple physics. Internals clogs due to how they're made meaning they dinner then later break. Batteries also fail soon. But yourself a good canister vacuum they'll last for life, like the Sebo or Miele. Both made in Germany. The Sebo bags are cheap and are winning all the awards nowadays. Great machine for $500.

I have a CXT vacuum at home. I originally bought it as a way to trick my toddler into helping me clean, but I've found that it's great as a quick, convenient cleaning tool. However, it doesn't really suffice on its own. I keep a Miele canister for serious cleaning jobs and have robot vacuuming running daily as well. I also have mostly hardwood flooring and low pile rugs - heavier carpeting would also not be good for the Makita. It has its place in the right ecosystem.

I have my parents old Miele that is around 30 years or more too. My partner likes the dyson stick but I still think the Miele does a better job

I’m in the Miele camp. Mine is about 10 years old and still going strong. I’ve had to replace parts over the years but that comes with the territory. All of my clients have hard flooring and some rugs scattered throughout, so the canister works well for me. I just have the carpet attachment that runs on the suction from the vac, and it’s fine. I’m not dealing with heavy pet hair however. They also have models that feature an electric powered carpet head but those start to get very pricey. I rarely have to mess with the canister. Miele is a different kind, it’s designed much better than “normal” ones that drive me nuts. The attachments are easy to access and change out, and I can literally do ceiling to floor maintenance with them. Cobwebs in the corner? It can reach. Need to dust top of the door trim and baseboards? Easy peasy. And I’m short, only 5’3”. I do not understand how yall use an upright for whole house cleaning. Every one I’ve ever used, I had to fight the terrible little scrunched up hose they usually have, trying to drag the vac and use the hose at the same time is a nightmare. And it just doesn’t reach well. I prefer a vac over hand dusting so I will stick with what works. With the Miele I can do the lampshades, all the window trim, you name it. Good luck!

My cleaner encouraged me to get one when he started, after showing me that my current upright wasn't working well. I personally prefer an upright but I did get the Meile

I found a used Miele canister on Facebook marketplace, and that thing is awesome. It does require bags (I don’t mind, better for my allergies and I can get generic ones via Amazon). Bonus, it’s a nice enough vacuum that when if it breaks in the future, it can be repaired.

Bought Miele canister in 1991 and still sucks like a . . . anyway, hasn’t lost a step in all those years. Best there is

I've had my Miele (canister style) for 30 years. 🙌

I will say that while the actual motor is working great, the plastic that surrounds the cannister (the part that's under the rim) has gotten brittle and when I bumped the cannister into furniture or the wall when pulling it, the plastic started breaking off. That started about three years ago (and a LOT of plastic has broken off!), but it's still going strong!

omg, I just realized I can tell some co-workers, "My vacuum cleaner has been working longer than you've been alive!"

I use a Miele at someone’s house and I love it, the suction is amazing. If you want something similar for way cheaper I highly recommend the Eureka Might Mite. It’s like $100 and it has the same suction as a Miele. It’s plastic so it’s light, the two tubes together are really long so easy to reach ceilings for cobwebs and stuff. It doesn’t last as long like a Miele would but it’s freakin awesome.

If you want a high quality vacuum that does everything well check out the Miele canister models.

SEBO for upright. Miele for canister. Miele has slightly better filtration than SEBO but I personally prefer SEBO canisters and uprights due to better warranty and cost of ownership

Miele canister, any model.

I also have one and definitely have had to de-hair it. However, it’s not miserable to do and it’s definitely worth it!

I'm not a housekeeper, but I have a Miele - going on 20 years now. Its amazing. It makes cleaning go so fast. I have a cordless LG that I use for quick tidy ups in between deep cleans, but for monthly deep cleans, I use the Miele and the place just feels SO CLEAN afterwards.

We have 2 currently. A stick (3 in 1 unit) for light duty quick tasks and a canister for bigger jobs. Never an issue with my Miele vacuums. Only ever replaced one Miele and that was because we moved continents and the voltage was different so we sold the old one.

Miele canister is a beast

Miele canister or SEBO. Go German.

I’ve got a Miehle canister and I love it

Miele are fantastic. I have both the canister vacuum and the stick version. The cannister version would suck a football from over the garden wall .....

Not sure if this would be worthwhile for you, but I decided to buy a used Miele canister so that I could try a canister in my house. I just got it the other day, so the jury is still out on if I will stay in canisters, but if you’re curious about canisters, it might not be a bad idea to buy a used one (make sure the bag compartment is clean, if dirty its no good). Then you get to try it out for as long as you want, and if you don’t like it you can sell it and get most (if not all—depending on how good of a deal you get) of your money back. I know many suggest going to a dealer to try before you buy, and while that would help, in my case I would prefer to clean my own floors in my own home. This lets my wife try it a few times too.

I have Miele canister vacuum for my own home. I can't imagine having to change its bag after two or three homes! They'd have to be massive castles.

I dont think it is my mom bought one and within 1 year it had battery and filter issues. Dyson looks cool and neat due to marketing, but when you have to dispose of the dust and dirt, it ends up flying everywhere, which is my main complaint and reason I stopped using my Dyson and gave it away after 5 years. It is also impossible to clean with so many components. if you want a quality vacuum, i would get a Miele or sebo canister vacuum. It is pricey, but canister vacuum compacts the dust and dirt into a bag and you just dispose the bag. No dust flying everywhere. Simple to clean.

Abt. You will find the staff super knowledgeable and know you will be protected if you end up hating what you choose. Personally, I love Miele canisters as they last for a very long time. When I lived downtown I was in a vacuum shop (this would have been around 2008) and a woman was bringing in her Miele from the 80’s for repair. But I absolutely love Abt for any big purchases.

I've had my Meile for 10+ years. It will not quit, wont die. I love it.

I’ve had a Dyson V8 for 10+ years, main vacuum (hardwood floors and low pile rugs) and replaced the battery once. It doesn’t do our whole house without a charge, no big deal. There is one guy in particular (that I’ve noticed) that posts negative comments about Dyson and I just skip over his comments because it’s repetitive and I’ve found it to be untrue. We now have a Miele canister vac as well and don’t love it.

I have 3 vacuums that I use for different types of cleaning. Cordless(not Dyson but someday I go or will be!!) is my ‘daily driver’ and while it’s not the best vacuum ever, it’s the primary reason that my house stays clean. Its battery lasts about 25 minutes and it tackles cat hair and dust like a champ. Then I have a Miele canister vacuum, it’s the work horse. It’s a pain to drag out and always ends up getting pulled from the outlet because the cord is annoyingly short but it is crazy powerful. Then I have a central vac system. I solely use this for keeping ceiling corners free of cobwebs a couple times per year because it’s light and has a super long hose but it’s cumbersome and the central canister is in the basement crawl space so I use it minimally to avoid having to empty it often. Together they take up a lot of space but I wouldn’t willingly get rid of any of them

Dyson marketing department got you good if you think it cleans better than a miele.

I’ve always kind of wondered about that too. Consumer Reports consistently puts Kenmores way up the list while Miele and Sebo get a lot more love here. Part of it is probably how CR weights things: price-to-performance, availability in big box stores, and maybe even the way they test suction vs. long-term reliability. Kenmore also has broader distribution in the U.S., which probably gives CR more samples to work with. I can’t speak to kickbacks or partnerships, but it wouldn’t shock me if brand relationships played a role in how much attention certain models get. All I know from experience is that I went from a bagless Shark to a Miele canister, and the difference in how clean my carpets look and feel is night and day. If you prefer to look at it more objectively, there’s a really helpful [vacuum comparison spreadsheet](https://www.reddit.com/user/lacking_foyer48/comments/1lj76h3/vacuum_cleaners_compared_comprehensive_datasheet/) another Redditor put together where you can line up all the specs across brands. For me, once I saw the numbers side by side, it was pretty clear why Miele gets the reputation it does.

Thanks for the explanation. I’ve tried my families Miele canister when I lived with them and never got the hang of it. Would the Felix and the Lindhaus valzer be about the only two worthwhile options?

Kenmore intuition It's a solid machine that is just a good vacuum overall, it should make you happy for a good amount of time! Check around, you can usually find it right at your budget. Even then it's worth going over by the $10 or so. There are a couple different colors with some other tools and stuff, generally the same machine however. https://www.amazon.com/Kenmore-Intuition-Friendly-Handi-Mate-Combination/dp/B08NPBCG97 Also, always do a good search at your local thrift stores and marketplaces for good machines that people don't want! To date I have found a Miele canister, a Kenmore Intuition, and then an older Progressive that I actually used to have years ago. *I know you don't want bags but the name brand Kenmore bags are like diapers, filter well, and last a long time. For your price range you will be hard pressed to find a bagless machine that will make you as happy as this one. Trust me, I've tried lol

They are my favourite! I’ve also gotten a few of my clients to buy them when their vacs have broken down, they don’t regret them 😄

My Miele canisters (I have two) have both been perfect forever-- one is around 25 years old, one is about 18-- without maintenance beyond changing the filters. I have replaced a few of the attachments. I used both of them professionally for several years as well. They were refurbished when I got them! So worth the money.

We got a Dyson stick for quick and spot cleaning. We got a corgi that sheds like crazy. It helps with maintaince of the fur. A Miele canister is BIFL and will hold up with per hair.

Did the same. After 2 dyson stick vacuums, I realized they are crap. My miele canister vacuum is a beast.

Just buy a Sebo or Miele canister vacuum and be done with it.

Miele is the best vacuum I've ever used. I first tried one at a clients home years ago. They're so powerful and effective, they're quiet, they're easy to maintain and clean. The designers/engineers thought of everything, even considering cord length in regard to average room size for the model I have. Good attachments too! Thyre pricey, but you can get them certified pre-owned in great condition. Get a bagless car and dog version if you can!

Canister vacuum. Miele works well enough we haven't bought a new one in a long long time.

Bagless is trash! I’ve had all the popular name brands. They all end up reeking and blowing dust. Just about any high end bagged vacuum will kick a bagless’s butt. If it takes a paper bag, it’s not high end. Look for heavy (expensive) cloth type bags. You’ll never go back. I personally love my Miele canister vac. It’s about 13 years old now, and still running just like when it was new. It doesn’t blow dust everywhere, is easy to swap the bag. And doesn’t require any extra cleaning or maintenance. Just keep the bag replaced as necessary, and replace the HEPA filter once a year. It’s not cheap, but you gotta pay to play when you want nice things. But honestly even with the high premium price of the vacuum and its bags/filters. I still think it’s more economical than replacing a bagless POS every two to three years.

I don’t think I’d ever buy another Dyson, and I’ve used plug-in upright, and the handheld V6. Bagless vacuums require a lot of maintenance to keep everything shipshape. My Miele canister is god-tier perfect. Expensive, though.

100% agree. They’re wonderful vacuums for personal use but from a cleaner standpoint, they don’t make sense. They’re not cleaner friendly as far as speed and efficiency. I’ve got a client that has one and I use the hardwood floor vacuum head instead of the brush roll because the carpets are low pile. The amount of times I’ve had to stop and flip the canister, the attachments drop from the hose, having to switch attachments. We don’t have that kind of time in someone’s house, unfortunately. It’s a great little vacuum and definitely an investment. I’d love to buy one for my own home but upright and bagless are better options for professional cleaners.

I love Miele vacuums. Like you, my client has one and it’s by far the best vacuum I have used. **However,** I would never purchase one to use in a client’s home. I ask that my clients provide a vacuum or I will use my company vac if they don’t have a good one. I would buy a Miele in my own home but unfortunately, it’s not very “cleaner friendly” because it’s a canister vac. There’s a lot of upkeep and maintenance you’ll have to do with a Miele vac, especially if it’s going in many different homes. It’s not the easiest to disinfect between services. I’d stick with a bagless vac for cleaning multiple homes. There are some great options that are comparable to Miele that don’t come with the price tag and the maintenance.

I had an OG Dyson canister that we bought 20 years ago... and the plastics they used were super brittle then just like now. We got 10 years out of it... BUT we had to replace multiple parts and it was held together with epoxy and fiberglass patch kit tape all over. It was a mess. By comparison we have a Miele canister now that is 10 years old and is perfect.

I have a lower end Miele as my main vacuum and have had it for 10 years and it is like new... however I did supplement with a Dyson cordless for awhile and it went through a battery every year and I had to replace several broken plastic bits on the cannister.... also those make a mess when you try to empty them..... No cordless vacuums are BIFL.... HOWEVER we did get a Samsung Bespoke Jet cordless vac 2 years ago and I love that thing. Pricy for a cordless but it is way better quality than the Dyson and has a charging base that also contains a vacuum/bag that sucks the dirt out of it into a bag... so completely mess-less. It also has two batteries that can be swapped in seconds like a power tool. The second battery mounts to the dock in a second charger. It is also quieter than the Dyson and the Miele.

I don't know about Miele. Our Miele canister is 10 years old and the wand broke. Took it to the vacuum store and it's $200CAD to replace. As I was considering ordering the replacement I mentioned the power cuts in and out on the brush head and was told it's a common failure that requires a new hose. $200CAD to replace the hose. The head has been squealing as well and that's $180CAD. So to replace just the parts costs $580CAD to attach to my 10 year old canister or I can buy a new Miele C1 for $399 or a C3 for $699. I'm looking into SEBO as Miele was not what I expected.

I have a Shark for work and a Miele canister vacuum for my own house! I love them both but for different reasons. The ease of an upright when I’m working can’t be beat. The Miele is so powerful but heavy!!

My Miele has been going to 25+ years without any repairs or issues

Yes sure Miele would be a good pick!!!

Honestly, if you re tired of vacuums dying every few years, look into a Miele canister. They re pricey up front but built like tanks and handle dust and pet hair really well. Worth it long-term.

I like my Miele in general but the wheels drive me insane. How did they design a canister vac that gets so easily stuck on its own cord?! If those wheels were any smaller it would get hung up on shadows.

I have a Miele upright and HATE it for my home. Also had a canister that was beyond infuriating to use in the house. I have a Henry that I use for basement and to clean my cars. I don’t understand how anyone can tolerate a canister machine in the house. It’s like taking an overweight cat for a walk with the added bonus of cracking corner beads on walls. I actually just ordered a shark not 10 minutes ago to replace my Miele for home use. I’ll take it to work where it’ll probably do better. Miele designed the brush roll in a very poor way. We don’t have carpet, just a few runner and if you don’t constantly have the brush roll running hair will bind up in the belt drive system and start to strip out the belt. I’ve replaced countless belts, the entire housing and the motor when my kids didn’t realize what was going on with the god awful sound it was making. I contacted them about it and their solution? Take it apart and clean it after every use. Are you kidding me? That involves pulling the bottom plate off (6 torx screws of 2 sizes) unclipping a flimsy plastic latch on the belt housing that has about 10 uses before it breaks and if it’s bad enough unmounting the motor. That is in no way feasible to do daily or at times several times daily depending on how anal I get. I salvaged a Shark 2 years ago from the trash, pulled it apart and cleaned the heck out of it. And it’s used in the finished portion of our basement several times a week. It’s been great. I like the general quality of the Miele and the design of how the rotator head works is great. But gosh they missed the mark on overall design. To further take points off it’s very very very unfriendly for repair. People like to say the higher end machines are repairable. Ok… I guess. But when I’m shelling out nearly $100 on a replacement hose every 3 years in addition to belts, and brush rolls I can just buy a “disposable” one every few years and when it breaks I can usually hobble it by for another few. This is my 3rd Miele and probably my last to be honest. My first served me fairly well in a house with carpet until it took a fall down the steps when my wife lost grip on it (because let’s face it they aren’t light). The cost to fix it was going to be more than it cost new. And that was just in parts for me to do it. Rant over. Sorry. Just read this at the wrong (right?) time.

I love the Meile vacuum cleaners! The suction is unparalleled; bring it outside to vacuum my vehicles bc they are so great. I take both vacuums for cleaning once a year and they have lasted over 15 years.

Inaccurate. Meile is the best and it it an objective fact. Ask any vacuum nerd.

i buy vacuums constantly for work. dyson is hands down the worst value. i'd say i put a 5 year beating on a vacuum in about 6 months. you'll find shark and meile to be the best value at each end of the price point.

I own a cleaning business and have had as many as 3 labs at once and only use a shark pro model.I had a meile for when my daughter lived at home because she was allergic to dogs.If you have anyone with allergies then the Meile is the way to go. If you just want max suction for dog hair get the shark rotator models,not navigator

Love ours. We have the Cat & Dog. There is a learning curve to all the settings but once you get that down, it's pretty painless. It's over ten pounds lighter than our old Orec canister and it fixed the traffic wear patterns in our bedroom carpet. I was going to file a complaint about the carpeting until we got the Meile. Now I know the old Orec wasn't cleaning worth a \*\*\*\*.

Doesn’t exist. If it is powerful, it will work for one month and never the same again. An old royal hotel vac, Electrolux, or meile are what actually work in my experience.