Classic C1 Junior EcoLine - SBAP3

My 2 cents for corded vacuums is wattage doesn't mean better. I had that 2400W for a couple days and the design of the HEPA filter housing was a weak point. Yes it's powerful, powerful enough to bow the filter to let out all the fine particles back into the room. Which is a shame. It was like the extra power exposed All the design flaws that the Anko/HE group vacuums seem to have. I did like the pet fitting though. Shelled out for a Miele C1 ecoline (550w). And it's been a way better fit for purpose vacuum. Way quiter (anko 2400w was like a jet), the bags are a better air filter, plus you can put a HEPA filter on it too. Sucks like a champ, I was crazy surprised with how it performed. Like on full with an empty bag it's almost hard to move on carpet.. you have to turn it way down to do a rug. Downside is buying bags. But as a household with dust allergies plus two dogs.. totally worth it. So yeah, design is better than pure power consumption rating. Opinion of one. YMMV.

Miele junior I have it does the job I had 2 bed apt. 2 cats. Wish I had got the pet one it’s a lot more cash but they are worth it! No better hoover imo.

Miele junior c1 I think mine is, it was around 180€ I think the cheapest tbh. I love it, does a great job I have 2 bed apt with 3 pets now. Wish I had got the pet one it’s a good bit more expensive but they are worth it! No better hoover imo.

Miele junior I have it does the job I had 2 bed apt. 2 cats. Wish I had got the pet one it’s a lot more cash but they are worth it! No better hoover imo.

Miele junior c1 I think mine is, it was around 180€ I think the cheapest tbh. I love it, does a great job I have 2 bed apt with 3 pets now. Wish I had got the pet one it’s a good bit more expensive but they are worth it! No better hoover imo.

Question for this sub: do people with hard floors (I have stone) get barefoot-friendly perfect surface (i.e. even those tiny microparticles) from vacuuming alone? My robot (Eufy X10 Pro Omni) \*vacuuming\* does not alone perform well enough, but it also has a mop and with it it's perfect. I thought the mop would be a little gimmicky but it's 100% necessary for those last pieces of tiny specks the lower battery-tier suction can't handle. As for the ingrained stains, no vacuum can take that, you need to scrub/mop with manual force anyway.. Recently got a corded/bagged Miele (the new budget line S1 Junior - but the mid-range M1 looked/felt the same in the store), for carpets, upholstery and places where the robot can't reach. Suction is obviously great but I'm not at all impressed with the build quality of the main unit, and especially the plastic lid and inner details - a toddler or a cat could break it if left open. I can assure you even my Chinese robot is better made (the plastic is much higher grade, thick and hard enough to resist surface scratches). I was considering the old C3s but they're literally discontinuing those so I don't get where all the Miele praise comes from. Doesn't matter that the motor is great if you need plastic parts from a 15y old model in the future.

I'm lucky to have a large apt with lots of empty stone flooring and no doorsteps between rooms. There's no way to beat the robot which takes about 5-10 min of prep/maintenance work per cleaning, if you're using manual sweeping. I think a robot is probably not a solution for most people due to apt layout, materials, furniture, pets, kids, etc. But in my case it's a blessing. That leaves me with a secondary, which needs to suck hard (well, in the intended way) from carpet and upholstery like couches. That's why I went with the \~200 Miele. I could pay 4x the price for a premium battery-powered Dyson but I'd get 1/3 of the power. Not that pure wattage is everything, but still. How does yours perform on carpet and upholstery? If I had hard floors, door steps and more stuff in the apt, a high-end battery Dyson could have been my primary. Who knows.

Yep that's why I put "some of" I've only seen one Kirby and fuck dragging that about the house for the same suction as a 5kg Miele :)

The two C1 models are nearly identical canister wise. The motor, suction, etc are going to be the same. The real critical difference are the hose, wands, and tools. The basic C1 has no rotating brush. It is suction only, and will probably struggle to remove pet hair from your rugs. And it'll be completely inadequate if you get carpet in future. The cat and dog model includes an electrical outlet on the vacuum, a hose with built in wiring, a wand with built in wiring, all to run an electrically driven power brush. This is really great to have for cleaning pet hair off any carpets or rugs. Also works great for removing deep embedded dirt from higher pile carpets. That added wiring is what drives up the cost. But trust me it's worth the upgrade for cleaning the carpets. It'll also future-proof the machine in case your flooring changes. The cheaper C1 not only doesnt include any of this equipment, it cannot be upgraded in future. You'd be stuck with suction-driven attachments only.

Well firstly if "sleek" looks are important, all you need to do is go look at used bagless vacuums. They look grimy and awful after a few month's use usually. The bins get covered in grime and cloudy. I always found the dyson advertisements amusing where people have them mounted to the wall in the living room, knowing how they look after some use. Ease and cleanliness of maintainence is another point to make. With something like the miele c1, you just throw out the bag when full. They compress the dirt down so they effectively hold way more debris than a bagless vac, then when it does get full, it's clean to dispose of. There's no dust flying around coating the outside of the vacuum itself. The bag acts as the main filter, so you are essentially replacing the filter each time you empty it. This means no filters to constantly bash the dust out of or wash. The other filters on a bagged vac don't get caked with dust, so they only need swapping out occasionally and won't spill dirt all over when removed. Basically, you don't have to think about vacuum maintenance nearly as much, or worry that the vac is losing performance because of some hidden filter somewhere loading up with dirt. And the vacuum itself doesn't end up looking like a dusty mess nearly as much or as quickly. What floor surfaces do you have? The miele c1 lineup is generally pretty good but some models don't handle carpet as effectively.

There are several different ways you could go with this. What would you consider a "long" hose? Smaller carry-able canister type vacs like an oreck shoulder vac could work. Though they aren't hepa, and personally not a big fan of them. Small bags, small motors, bit noisy etc. Slightly bigger machines like a Miele C1 would be great, they are pretty lite but more capable. Hose might not be long enough for leaving the canister on the floor and climbing a ladder to reach high up for example. But for filtration and suction, great choice. Similar in size and characteristics would be a Sebo K or E series machine. A Numatic Henry is a personal favorite of mine for whole house dusting. The hoses are a bit longer than average, the tools are good, and the extention tubes themselves have a nice trick. Unlike most canisters where the curved extension part is the hand grip, and then you place the tools at the end of the straight tube section, with Numatic vacuums you can reverse that. You can put the curved end of the extension at the end with a tool attached while the straight section is what you grasp while cleaning. This gives you the perfect angle for ceiling fans or the tops of moldings and picture frames. Downside with a numatic is the weight and possibly bulk, they aren't very small or lite and might be a struggle to carry around. There are several options as you can see. Depends what you want to prioritize most I think. And side note, I think an extension hose can be bought separately and attached to any of these machines for extra reach if the default length isn't sufficient. Sebo themselves sell an extension hose. Numatic might as well, otherwise I know aftermarket extra long hoses are avaliable for Numatic machines. Miele you'd have to get a little more creative since they don't really sell one themselves, and they use a larger than average diameter. You can get a 35 to 32mm adapter and then attach a genetic extension hose to the miele hose. Only annoying thing is then the miele tools wouldn't fit at the end of the extension hose, so you'd almost need a duplicate attachment set.

Depending on the style of vac you are open to, there are canister options which fit the bill. The Miele C1 would be my top choice. Excellent suction and airflow. Very maneuverable wand and floorhead for cleaning under and behind furniture. Large capacity and bagged, so maintainence is minimal and hygenic, and theres no dusty dirty bin on display. The floorhead has no brush roller to tangle up, no clear windows to get grimey either. The stationary brushes on the nozzle can be quickly cleaned by vacuuming them off with the hose end after you've finished with the floor. A few swipes across and any hair or fuzz will be sucked in. Getting a parquet twister floor brush is an awesome upgrade too. The basic head works fine, but the twister is way more maneuverable. Its very lite for a canister vac and the swivel wheels make it maneuverable. Bonus, it'll last a long time. That would be my first recommendation at least. Unfortunately most cordless vacs are obsessed with having clear sections all over the place which get dirty and become hard to clean if not impossible. And bagged cordless models are rare. The exception to this would be a Makita cordless stick vac. Certain models are bagged, eliminating the unsightly clear bin. And they are suction only- no roller brush to tangle and no clear windows. Only downside is the bags are small and tricky to find. Adequate for vacuuming hard floors and popular Japan for the tidy and minimal look. Makita does offer some bagless models as well with opaque dust containers. However these models are very messy to empty out and clean.

Any miele or sebo cylinder would be a great choice. Either can be optioned with a dedicated hard floor brush with no brushbar, no wheels even. And the cylinders themselves have soft rubberized wheels. Best all around option for delicate hard floors.

The airstorm, while good, is no better than a miele or sebo. I wouldn't pay the premium. Mieles and sebos are also sealed to trap dust. They are also more modern in design and easier to use (they have cord rewind while the air storm does not). There's nothing really bespoke about the airstorm. Underneath the top shell, the power nozzle is the same as ones avaliable for Miele models. The hose and other tools are generic off-the-shelf supplies etc. While it would probably last you a long time and do a good job, you might resent using it. I'd strongly suggest you try one in person before choosing, and frankly I'd save money and go with a nicer to use miele/sebo.

Sebo or miele if you want something high quality which will actually last 15+ years and be repairable should a part wear out. They have high performance and filtration standards. The shark is fine for 3 to 5 years with decent performance. The dyson, being cordless, you should only expect 2-4 years. And it won't have the performance of the others unless used on it's highest but shortest runtime mode. Kinda comparing apples to oranges here. If you need something immediately the shark is probably ok, but if you want something to last definitley go check out miele and sebo.

A VAX has been the best of the bunch here, so far, better than Bosch (an all-round failure) or Dyson (motor longevity). Yet to try a Shark. Regular maintenance is vital, given the lower suction power of battery models, I've found. None are as good in handling larger pieces of dirt as my corded, bagged, Miele cylinder, and the increased suction power means fewer tool changes for corners, etc. So, if you can find the space for one... I even keep the VAX stick running all the way back to the cupboard to reduce spillage, then use the Miele once in a while to clean out the cupboard :-D

Corded, bagged cylinder Miele. Wouldn't touch anything else.