Thanks a lot! I love your website and use it for everything.
I ended up getting the miele complete c3 lol. Completely different from my original post 😂
I'm gonna test it out within the 30 days of bestbuy and see how it holds up.
Do you have any other recommendations for long life vacuums in similar range (i paid 500cad on sale for this c3)?
Thanks bro!
I got this one
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/miele-complete-c3-limited-edition-canister-vacuum-tayberry-red/14446822
Not sure which variant it is tbh lol, they all seem the same to me. I'll see if costco has deals on these in the future.
Also, sorry for the questions but one last request. I'm looking at upright vacuums too, which ones do you think are comparable to this miele c3?
Well if you want a quiet vacuum, (the quietest to be specific) your option is the Miele C3. The Miele c1 is marginally louder but still quieter than a Sebo.
Both are quieter than any Dyson lmao (those things are crazy loud and they don't even tune their motors to offload the whine behind our scope of hearing).
The Miele c3 on max is quieter than a Dyson on normal.
So the cheapest option would be the Miele c1 classic pure suction. The nicest option would be the c3 gala edition. Both are hard floor only machines, but the build quality of the c3 really speaks for itself.
If you're iffy about spending so much on a Miele, try visit a local vacuum store with mieles. They'll be happy to let you try them out and Miele dealers will always sell lower than online listed MSRP. You'll also hear firsthand how much quieter they are.
Technically speaking, all bagless machines will be pretty loud bc they don't have much soft padding to capture the sounds (bag, nice filter). Cordless machines overall are very loud because their motors are smaller, spinning at a higher speed to generate similar pressure, and those tiny whirring things make a huge high pitched sound, characteristic of any Dyson machine (vacuum, hairdryer, hand dryer).
Combine a cordless bagless and you have the absolute worst care scenario for sound dampening.
Mieles recently upped their motor rpm while reducing size, but they tune their motors such that the majority of the sound falls above the frequency of our hearing. My cat doesn't seem to hate my Miele so clearly it's not that loud ultrasonic either.
Checkout rtings.com for objective measurements but lemme tell you: we've been a Miele family for about 2 decades now. I bought my mom a Dyson v11 thinking it'll be great for the kitchen but she hates it! It's loud, clunky, weak (relatively: it cant rice grains from the corners) and it needs SOOOOO much brush roll maintenance omfg. Huge waste of money tbh. It's still hung in the kitchen but I think they only use it for vacuuming the stairs now (with the electro tool). The Miele canister is obviously better for our cars too.
Nowadays, I think the avg active home only needs a bagged corded vacuum, and a robot. There's very little place for cordlesses imo ESPECIALLY as EVs now have power outlets that allow the use of a normal vacuum..
(I have one and my partner still uses it more than I do, but we wouldn't be in need without one. I only bought it bc I found it for a steal not because I wanted a cordless).
Well if you want a quiet vacuum, (the quietest to be specific) your option is the Miele C3. The Miele c1 is marginally louder but still quieter than a Sebo.
Both are quieter than any Dyson lmao (those things are crazy loud and they don't even tune their motors to offload the whine behind our scope of hearing).
The Miele c3 on max is quieter than a Dyson on normal.
So the cheapest option would be the Miele c1 classic pure suction. The nicest option would be the c3 gala edition. Both are hard floor only machines, but the build quality of the c3 really speaks for itself.
If you're iffy about spending so much on a Miele, try visit a local vacuum store with mieles. They'll be happy to let you try them out and Miele dealers will always sell lower than online listed MSRP. You'll also hear firsthand how much quieter they are.
Technically speaking, all bagless machines will be pretty loud bc they don't have much soft padding to capture the sounds (bag, nice filter). Cordless machines overall are very loud because their motors are smaller, spinning at a higher speed to generate similar pressure, and those tiny whirring things make a huge high pitched sound, characteristic of any Dyson machine (vacuum, hairdryer, hand dryer).
Combine a cordless bagless and you have the absolute worst care scenario for sound dampening.
Mieles recently upped their motor rpm while reducing size, but they tune their motors such that the majority of the sound falls above the frequency of our hearing. My cat doesn't seem to hate my Miele so clearly it's not that loud ultrasonic either.
Checkout rtings.com for objective measurements but lemme tell you: we've been a Miele family for about 2 decades now. I bought my mom a Dyson v11 thinking it'll be great for the kitchen but she hates it! It's loud, clunky, weak (relatively: it cant rice grains from the corners) and it needs SOOOOO much brush roll maintenance omfg. Huge waste of money tbh. It's still hung in the kitchen but I think they only use it for vacuuming the stairs now (with the electro tool). The Miele canister is obviously better for our cars too.
Nowadays, I think the avg active home only needs a bagged corded vacuum, and a robot. There's very little place for cordlesses imo ESPECIALLY as EVs now have power outlets that allow the use of a normal vacuum..
(I have one and my partner still uses it more than I do, but we wouldn't be in need without one. I only bought it bc I found it for a steal not because I wanted a cordless).
Long story short: no.
Mostly because of cordless, as that mostly scuttles your requirement for asthma care. Most cordlesses are bagless, and one trip emptying that bin and it's game over for your bronchioles depending how bad the asthma is.
There's basically only one bagged cordless (Henry quick, so check that out, but it doesn't stand) but it's not really meant for primary use.
The Miele cordlesses (triflex), are great for what they are (bagless and cordless) and they stand up, have swappable batteries and work well. Their filtration/dust sequestration will always be worse than a bagged. I love my triflex but I also use it maybe once a month or less because of my corded, bagged Miele.
I understand you don't want to compromise but what you describe is impossible with how our technology works rn, just like fusion, solid state batteries, or SC power lines, the technology is not there, and even worse than those technologies I listed, very few are working on what you want.
You can get everything you want if you accept a cord or accept dirtier air with a bagless.
If cost really isn't an issue then I'd say buy a corded bagged vacuum (not the shark rocket, it's generous to call that a real vacuum) and get a robot for daily maintenance. That's probably the best of both worlds as you don't have to compromise on clean or a cord, you just need two devices to meet your needs.
If you've never used a cord reel I'd suggest trying it as well.
My robot is absolutely the hardest working member of my household, so maybe a robot is what you're looking for?
Good luck! But what you're looking for doesn't exist, unfortunately.
And because I'm that girl: the only consumer vacuum in existence that's fully HEPA certified is the Miele c3 with their HEPA filter installed, so make of that what you will. That means not only is its filter hepa, but the machine is fully sealed and certified through testing to not allow more than 99.95% of particles smaller than 2.5 microns through.
If you want the best clean available, especially noticeable to asthmatics, a Miele c3 is the only answer.
Edit: my personal cleaning peeve is running wheeled things over hard floors, which is extra why im recommending the Miele c3. It's just so grating and demoralizing to hear those damn wheels every fkn pass. And no power/motor head will be as nimble as an articulated hard floor tool.
If your space is hard floors, you actually have it a bit easier, as carpets make vacuums more expensive. And getting Miele or Sebos cheapest will still suit your needs.
I know i said triflex comes close to what you want, but misses asthma care. I say get a bagged c3 and miss out on cordless but actually have a clean home with a machine that'll last a lifetime and work like new until the day it dies (which may be never with care). My skin is crawling thinking about running my triflex all over my hard floors.
They're the best.
It's hard to really capture why they're so amazing without using one yourself.
I'm glad you like it!
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxUXkgU738xlrJ_rCqPFmY6qq3qnAlOkVP?si=5bIaqi_7qz98kfSq
The Miele C3 makes cleaning folks who haven't used one find God. It's that good.
The only girl in the game sucking who NEVER quits.
I believe Trixie bought the new Triflex Pro but katya seemingly has 3 C3s for the different floors of her old house 💀
I love that they give representation to every community, especially vacuum freaks like me 🥰
It depends which model you get and what region you're in. If you get a miele with the electric carpet brush, then it's suitable for all floor types and thickness of carpet.
The suction only turbo nozzle vacuums are only suitable for thinner carpet and rugs, somewhat.
I do actually have to corroborate this because I do see people complaining (which is their experience) but in my many warranty requests with shark, they were pretty easy to work with, a the most I did was a little video call with a representative but tbh thts kinds nice because it's a person who's talking to you and affirming you're about to receive xyz products in the mail for free and here are the links to using it installing them.
Sure the warranty is 4years maybe on their most premium vac (what's it today y'all?) and they will die eventually afterwards without parts. But hey the company is mostly upfront about their marketing first, wowing upfront performance and shorter life cycles (implicitly) and honor their contracts easily.
A shark apex was the first vacuum I bought myself as an adult. I grew up with a miele canister.
After a year ish I immediately bought a miele canister on marketplace and ofc it was much better for slightly cheaper (a miele UniQ!).
I cleaned up and gave that shark to my bestie's family who still use it (and know how to maintain it well).
I bought my brother and Apex for his housewarming (before I got my uniq) and it's a great vacuum for them too but they're not very meticulous users (and have a German shepherd) so it died in under 4 years.
As a vacuum nut who acquires new/user vacuums for fun for my loved ones, sharks best stuff does work better than 90% of the crap that's out there... But knowing what I know now after a decade+ of vacuum nuttery, things like a miele/Sebo noticeably and materially outperform a shark, no contest. The economics of shark ownership are really not there in my experience.... ESPECIALLY compared to a Kenmore...
Also being a canister vacuum nuts makes me resent shark a little. Though I got my cousin to buy the shark canister and it's great but they're also not meticulous users so I should've found them a miele 🤷🏾
Sharks aren't bad~ but they're always worse... So why not get the better performer (Germans) or the better value (Kenmore)?
This is also ignoring the consumerist plague that is the sharkninja company... Their products always mostly work but are also almost always mostly outlcassed by their peers.
Overall, it's a "why bother" from me. But get off the cross buddy, you're not a Dyson owner 😂
Yes they still do and it's been the same vaccums: corded bagged machines.
Even a corded bagged Bissell/Hoover can put in some work for a while with care.
A Kenmore bagged vacuum is better.
Miele and sebo are the best and can last 30 years with a bit of maintenance.
Never expect any bagless or battery powered vacuum to survive daily service with shedding animals.
I wouldn't bother with the Kenmore because of the excess of hair. Get a miele with the seb228 or 236, not the seb217 (the skinnier shaft makes wraps more common, like with the Sebo ET1).
What's your budget and timeline for the machine because I'm pretty gung ho about buying used and self servicing... But I recognize that's not for everyone and not everyone has a flexible budget.
The Kenmore will work for years with care and you can service them decently easily.
A miele will be a tank and feel better to use every moment you use it. The value of that price difference (let's say $400 vs $950 new) is up to you.
A used like new Kenmore 600 series canister for ~$250 is an excellent price point for getting something that works and it can't be forgotten because of how inexpensive it is.
The simple existence of a bag in a vacuum changes a lot of dynamics of how vacuums work. Ultimately they're cleaner and easier to maintain and allow the machine to live longer.
Bagless machines need to be emptied per room, and washed monthly to retain performance and live towards a decade.
Bagged machines need a bag swap every few months and s filter swap yearly (or less frequently for a smaller or less active home).
Having something "capture" the dust is better than having something to "hold" the dust, if that makes sense.
It's not even a competition and it's just the fluid dynamics of the machines. Bagless machines were invented as a compromise (and the technology has not panned out in the way James Dyson originally envisioned, a la the failure of their "Cinetic" cyclones).
And in that time bags have gotten better and cheaper to produce.
So today, there's really no use for a bagless machine as a primary vacuum for a home.
I suggest the Costco guard l1 cat and dog plus , it’s $499 though but comes with both a good hard floor tool and a turbo brushed
Depending on how much area rug you have you and how thick the pile is the c3 limited edition at $449 right now is also a great deal
In Canada they all come with 5 year warranty parts and labour
I have some miele, not sure if the same model as you. And the best thing about it is that it has 12m cable. Way longer than my previous philips, I just plug it into wall in kitchen a vacuum whole floor in all rooms. Same with second level. So much nicer than having to move to a different wall socket 3 times per floor.
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