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Is a Miele C3 Excellence in the cards? It’s on sale for $699 CAD and should last you 15-20 years. And since I’m spending your money - I’d also look at a Sebo K3. It’s a bit more, but will last you every bit of 20 years and beyond. Short of that, look at a Kenmore 600 series.
I have one for quick messes and love it. It’s the perfect pair to my C3 (thanks to performance reviews for the tip) I believe both those models have the powered attachment point. It’s when it’s called the S194 is when you need to do your due diligence. Worst case, as for a picture of the attachment point. It’s easy to see if it’s electrified or not.
Don’t overpay for a rainbow. You can get a Sebo d4 or Miele C3 for less than half. For allergies you want something corded **and bagged**. Find a local Miele/Sebo dealer and give those a try. Which exact model depends on your flooring.
I wouldn’t seriously consider a Dyson. You’re on the right track with Miele and Sebo with your budget you’ll have plenty of options. Canister vs upright is personal preference. Since you’re undecided I’d find a local Miele/Sebo dealer and take the following for a test drive to see which you prefer. (That said, I’m a total canister convert. They’re very light in the hand and great for above floor cleaning and stairs, but there is a learning curve for sure.) Sebo dart, Felix, K3, E3 Miele C1 Cat and Dog, C3 Kona or C3 Homecare All of these will require minimal maintenance. A bag change every time it’s full (usually every 3 months or so) and motor filters once a year. That’s IT. These are nothing like bagless machines which require cleaning/messing with every other vacuum session.
Check out r/vacuumcleaners As mentioned Miele and Sebo are top brands. You can safely ignore any shark or Dyson recs. They’re garbage. As is anything bagless.
Vacuum wars is a paid shark shill and not to be trusted. Hell Chris even appeared in a shark commercial. BIFL vacuums absolutely exist. They’re corded and bagged made by brands like Miele and Sebo.
*Cordless* Vacuums are disposable. **Corded and bagged** vacuums like a Miele or Sebo will last you 2 decades or longer. Ask r/vacuumcleaners
Miele, Sebo or Lindhaus. Check out r/vacuumcleaners
This is the answer! You can still get a Miele for only hard flooring.
Agree with J3ttf! The Miele is a worthy splurge!
Miele, Sebo, Henry, Lindhaus. Shark and Dyson are garbage. Check out r/vacuumcleaners
You want to ask r/vacuumcleaners. Miele or Sebo is the correct answer. Corded and bagged. Safely ignore any shark or Dyson recs. Find a local dealer and take a few Miele’s and sebos for a test drive. Specifically the Sebo dart if it’s mostly for carpet.
Looks like the c3 excellence has the electric power brush. It's smaller and not as good on really deep carpets as the higher end ones, but it's still great! Should be perfect for you, and that's a good deal. Great find!
Don't put much stock into the cancer warning, that exists on loads of vacuums and is mandated by California. If you don't live in california, you probably own dozens of items containing the same materials already and just not labeled as such. It's more of a "right to know" thing rather than an actual warning of harm. If the vacuum manufacturer specifically says "here are the only approved vacuums", then if you want to maintain your warranty, those are the choices. There's no getting around that unfortunately. If you put in a warranty claim for wear and someone comes to assess the carpet, they can ask to see what vacuum you've been using. And they absolutely can deny claims based on that. If you're willing to ignore their recommendations, a miele or sebo would be the way to go. (Personally I don't really agree with their recommendations, I just wanted to explain what could happen if they are ignored). On mieles, look for one equipped with the SEB-217 power nozzle. This is their smaller nozzle with softer brushes and should be fine on more delicate carpets. Probably a good idea to dial the suction back to the midway point as well. Some miele C3s can be optioned with this head. Sebo is another awesome option. Either the K3 or E3 ranges with electric powerhead. Sebo provides an optional softer brushroll, which would be ideal in combination with the adjustable suction. This would be an extra add-on but not overly expensive. The default brushbar has blue brushes, the softer one has green brushes. Sebo Felix if you prefer an upright, can be equipped with the same delicate brushroll and also has adjustable suction. Thats the nice thing about miele and sebo, you can dial in the power exactly to suit your surfaces and they both have more gentle brush options.
Unusual, the miele c3 has more suction than any cordless vac and with the electrobrush head has better agitation than the dyson for carpets. Maybe it's a preference thing or something with your specific rugs. Sometimes vacuums just don't work on certain rugs because of the shear number of variations.
I would look at a Miele canister/barrel style vacuum, the C3 range is my favorite, with the parquet twister hard floor brush. Possibly the best hard floor vacuum attachment I've ever used. It has openings all around to pull in debris, and the bristles gently dust the floor as you vacuum. The bristles are very soft and gentle, and it has no motorized spinning bars or hard wheels on the head to tangle with hair or possibly scrape. And it's simple to clean, just run the end of the hose across the brushes a few times to pull off any stuck lint. The barrel part of the vacuum itself has rubberized wheels which won't mar or scratch. And you should be able to find a model with an air driven turbo brush for the carpets in addition to the parquet twister head. If not, those accessories can be bought as an ad-on. Not familiar with the specific models avaliable there, but any of the (preferably bagged) models with the parquet twister and the turboteq would be an excellent combo for you.
The airstorm, while good, is no better than a miele or sebo. I wouldn't pay the premium. Mieles and sebos are also sealed to trap dust. They are also more modern in design and easier to use (they have cord rewind while the air storm does not). There's nothing really bespoke about the airstorm. Underneath the top shell, the power nozzle is the same as ones avaliable for Miele models. The hose and other tools are generic off-the-shelf supplies etc. While it would probably last you a long time and do a good job, you might resent using it. I'd strongly suggest you try one in person before choosing, and frankly I'd save money and go with a nicer to use miele/sebo.
Sebo or miele if you want something high quality which will actually last 15+ years and be repairable should a part wear out. They have high performance and filtration standards. The shark is fine for 3 to 5 years with decent performance. The dyson, being cordless, you should only expect 2-4 years. And it won't have the performance of the others unless used on it's highest but shortest runtime mode. Kinda comparing apples to oranges here. If you need something immediately the shark is probably ok, but if you want something to last definitley go check out miele and sebo.
you paid for the regular price then. i got my c3 excellence from canadian tire for $649 5 years ago. i also see a few used ones go up on fb marketplace for 200-300 (obviously do your due diligence when purchasing used ones)
look into miele canister vacuum. i have the C3 and it's the best vacuum i've owned.
mixed of hardwood flooring and carpet (bedrooms and stairs). also have a couple of dogs and the vacuum does the job really well. the attachments that come with it are great too. the c3 model that i have has a longer cord which makes it easier to haul around the house without having to unplug it. it's a canister vacuum, make sure you consider the bags with your budget as they can be a bit much.
I got a v7 dyson 5 years ago and imm not really happy with it. It’s terrible on the rugs we have. No carpet; but lots of rugs bc our dog slips on the floor. It looks like I haven’t vacuumed at all even after going over it several times. I recently bought a corded Miele c3 excellence and it gets the rugs much cleaner. BUT is more cumbersome to move around. And is almost too powerful for some of our small rugs. I’m still playing around with the Miele to figure it out but the stick is handy for quick things, it’s better than nothing. In the future though I don’t see why I’d buy another Dyson brand stick. I haven’t compared it yet to an off brand stick but I can’t imagine there’s much of a difference. Hopefully when I buy another stick I don’t find out that the Dyson I wasn’t happy with is actually much better than the others.
Cordless vacuums likely aren’t good enough to replace a corded vacuum. They don’t clean the same at all. I recently bought a corded vacuum and the power is so much better on the corded vacuum. My cordless vacuum broke and I’d like a new one for quick clean ups, but the corded vacuum is still the more important one to have. Plus, as I said, my cordless vacuum broke. I can’t repair it. Whereas the corsed Miele vacuum I got will be able to be repaired if it breaks.
Uhhh, theres and amazing deal on the c3 excellence at Costco, I dont know for how long but https://www.costco.ca/miele-complete-c3-excellence-canister-vacuum.product.100500111.html
They all have the same motor, the difference is mainly in the heads/attachments. If you have wall to wall carpets that are medium to high pile seb 228 and seb 236 will do really well. If you have mostly hard floors then pure suction machines can work. There newest pure suction, guard L1 all floor has a new head that can work on low pile carpets from what ive seen, but in my opinion itll be harder to push on the max setting when on carpet. If you can find a good deal on a c1/c3 you can save a little since the new generation is m1/s1/L1.
There's not a lot that differs between models. Since you have a lot of carpet the main feature you want is an electric power nozzle. Wheather its a c1, c3, or guard model that's the main feature. When comparing models, filter by the models that come with Seb 228 or seb 236 as they are best for carpets and are height adjustable. The c1 and c3 have cat and dog powerline models, several c3 models, and the new guard L1 electro and some s1 models. All will have a 1200 watt motor. I think most of the cat and dog ones and the new guard ones come with a HEPA filter and all will also come with a suction only head that works well on bare floors and low rugs. Edit, I think the classic c1 cat and dog would meet the requirements. You can buy them online, but if theres a local vacuum store you'd probably get better warranty or more options and accessories!
My miele c3 has ended up being my most favorite machine ever! The only real issue is finding the best model for your needs. If its low pile or berber the new guard L1 all floor can handle it with straight suction. If its a medium to higher pile the classic c1 cat and dog powerline, c3 kona/marin, or machine with seb 228 will handle carpets really well.
Miele and sebo are both great and pretty similar, with differences in the power nozzles. Miele is not as user serviceable whereas the sebos et-1 brush is removable. The electric hoses can be a point of failure and the sebo if i remember right has replaceable components on the outside where as Mieles i believe have to replace the whole hose. As for bagged vs bagless, bagless machines are a little more work for the user as you need to maintain the filters and occasionally clean out the canister but are sometimes more convenient. Bagged machines are better if you have bad dust allergies and are generally lighter, because dust is bagged, filtration tends to be better and the canister is kept clean. You still have filters to change, but miele includes the basic ones with their bags which in my opinion are good for the average user. I personally got a miele at a really good price and have really enjoyed it so far. Since you have a lot of hardwood and low pile rugs, you could go for most miele models, theres the guard series, L1, etc. A model with the parquet XL head (16 in) will give a pretty big cleaning path for hard floors!
I just bought the C3 complete excellence on sale for $649.99 CAD from Best Buy. It works really well on carpets just make sure the one you buy has the electro comfort head and not just the universal floor head as I found it to not work well on anything more than short pile.
I have a White Star from 1998, still use it today, but I bought a CX1 bag less and a used C3 excellence in the last few years.
No problem, there’s a lot of confusing Miele names. The C3 Excellence is good for hard floors and regular carpets/rugs but it has a smaller powerhead that can get clogged up by long hair. It also doesn’t have carpet height adjustment so it’s not good for high pile or plush carpets. It is wired so you can add a different carpet powerhead. For the same price you can get a Sebo Felix if you prefer an upright vacuum.
I've learned that I prefer to buy a quality tool as soon as I can afford it so I can enjoy using it longer. Definitely get a replacement battery for your Dyson because a cordless vacuum is still very convenient. I'm a bit hesitant to recommend the Miele C3 Excellence because with its included powerhead, it won't do as well on higher pile rugs/carpets, and it isn't good with long hair. Miele has discontinuing the C1 and C3 Series and has replaced them with the Guard S1, M1, & L1 and the prices have increased. Parts for the C3 Series should be easily available for many years to come. If you are used to an upright check out the Sebo Felix Dart and Sebo Felix Premium $549/699 CAD. They have a wider carpet powerhead than the C3 Excellence and they have carpet height adjustment. They both can clean carpets and hard floors. The Felix Premium adds swivel steering and comes with an additional dedicated hard floor brush. They are kinda top heavy and have a short built-in hose. If you want a canister vacuum with more floor flexibility than the C3 Excellence, check out the Sebo K3 Premium $899 and Sebo E3 Premium $999. They have the same full-size powerhead as the Sebo Felix. They are more expensive than the Felix because of the extra parts required. If you can find a Sebo Dealer, try all of these vacuums in person.
What vacuum do you use now? There are a lot of Miele models, so I'll try to answer as best I can. For Miele in the U.K. the Cat & Dog means the vacuum usually comes with an air-powered turbo brush (for rugs), a carbon exhaust filter (for odors), and sometimes a mini turbo brush (for upholstery). The main turbo brush is good for low to medium pile rugs or minimal carpets. A turbo brush will make it easier to clean rugs than just using a combo floor brush. It isn't good for high or plush pile carpets, lots of carpets, or long hair because it has a narrow diameter brushroll that gets lots of hair wrap. This applies to other brands turbo brushes as well. I'm wary that a turbo brush will be any good on your deep pile carpet, its likely it will stall/stop spinning. Then you'll just use the standard combo brush. While I think the Miele C3 is better than the new Miele Guard L1 you may want a vacuum with a carpet powerhead and carpet height adjustment to work on your carpets. Not a lot of canister vacuums in Europe offer carpet powerheads but Sebo still does. You may want to check out the Sebo K3, Sebo E3, and Sebo Felix upright vacuums. They have electric carpet powerheads with carpet height adjustment, but you might need to swap in Sebo's green soft bristle brushroll. Hope that helps.
The Sebo K3 and Sebo E3 cost more than the Mieles because of the carpet powerhead and wiring. The Sebo K2 Turbo and Sebo E2 Turbo are the non-powered canisters closer to the price of the Mieles. I saw in your other comment you're looking at the Sebo Felix which is a great choice for an upright with a carpet powerhead and some of the U.K. models include the Premium Parquet Brush for dedicated hard floor use. You can use the carpet powerhed with the brushroll off and the height set to 1 for hard floor cleaning too. The nice thing about Sebo powerheads is the brushroll pops out without needing any tools for faster access and removing hair wrap.
If you only have tile a suction-only canister vacuum will work well. You don’t need a carpet powerhead since you don’t have carpets, but if you find a good deal on a vacuum with a carpet powerhead you can just leave the powerhead on the side. I’d look for a Miele C1, Miele C3, Sebo K2, Sebo E1, Sebo D1, or Henry 160. They’re all very good canister vacuums. I like Sebos more than Mieles because they are a little more durable. You have to be more careful that a used Miele wasn’t abused by running it without a bag or using generic bags that let dust wear down the motor. There are a number or commercial canister vacuums that are also good at hard floors like the Nilfisk GD930. If you find a good enough deal can be attractive. Electrolux canister vacuums are pretty solid, the old brick looking ones. I’m not the biggest fan of them as they don’t roll as well as newer canisters. Avoid Kirbys, they’re made for carpets and avoid Rainbow vacuums as the water creates more work and weight. Hope that helps.
Whoops, I thought you already bought it. I'm glad you didn't, the bagless Mieles are messy vacuums. The Miele C1 Cat & Dog comes with a carpet powerhead and it is the best model to look for. Any time you can get the carpet powerhead it will clean carpets better. The C3 Kona and C3 Cat & Dog also come with the carpet powerhead and if you luck out and find them for a low price. The C3 is more expensive because it has a longer cord and a tool compartment, but they have the same cleaning power as the C1. If you just have a little low pile carpet you might be able to get by with a turbo brush. In that case any bagged C1, C2, or C3 Miele can use a turbo brush. I'd say look for the C1 Cat & Dog first, the C1 Turbo and C1 Pure Suction as second choices. Miele's turbo brush is $150 and it's worth it over the generic tools because Miele's turbo brush keeps spinning much better than the generic copies. The Miele C1 Pure Suction is $400 new, so ideally you want to find a used C1 Pure Suction $100-150. The Miele C1 Turbo is $500, so around $150-200 is fair. Used prices should be half or less than a new vacuum because you'll need to buy new bags and filters and it comes with no warranty. Another option is the Powr-Flite Newton with Turbo Brush $171. This is a copy-cat of the Henry vacuums. It has strong suction but it's quiet. The Turbo Brush is made by the same German company that makes the turbo brushes for Miele. The Newton uses large hepa bags and has a long 35 ft. cord. Downsides are there's no automatic cord rewinder and the 2 included small tools are cheap.
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