you paid for the regular price then. i got my c3 excellence from canadian tire for $649 5 years ago. i also see a few used ones go up on fb marketplace for 200-300 (obviously do your due diligence when purchasing used ones)
mixed of hardwood flooring and carpet (bedrooms and stairs). also have a couple of dogs and the vacuum does the job really well. the attachments that come with it are great too. the c3 model that i have has a longer cord which makes it easier to haul around the house without having to unplug it. it's a canister vacuum, make sure you consider the bags with your budget as they can be a bit much.
Uhhh, theres and amazing deal on the c3 excellence at Costco, I dont know for how long but https://www.costco.ca/miele-complete-c3-excellence-canister-vacuum.product.100500111.html
There's not a lot that differs between models. Since you have a lot of carpet the main feature you want is an electric power nozzle. Wheather its a c1, c3, or guard model that's the main feature. When comparing models, filter by the models that come with Seb 228 or seb 236 as they are best for carpets and are height adjustable. The c1 and c3 have cat and dog powerline models, several c3 models, and the new guard L1 electro and some s1 models. All will have a 1200 watt motor. I think most of the cat and dog ones and the new guard ones come with a HEPA filter and all will also come with a suction only head that works well on bare floors and low rugs.
Edit, I think the classic c1 cat and dog would meet the requirements. You can buy them online, but if theres a local vacuum store you'd probably get better warranty or more options and accessories!
They all have the same motor, the difference is mainly in the heads/attachments. If you have wall to wall carpets that are medium to high pile seb 228 and seb 236 will do really well. If you have mostly hard floors then pure suction machines can work. There newest pure suction, guard L1 all floor has a new head that can work on low pile carpets from what ive seen, but in my opinion itll be harder to push on the max setting when on carpet. If you can find a good deal on a c1/c3 you can save a little since the new generation is m1/s1/L1.
My miele c3 has ended up being my most favorite machine ever! The only real issue is finding the best model for your needs. If its low pile or berber the new guard L1 all floor can handle it with straight suction. If its a medium to higher pile the classic c1 cat and dog powerline, c3 kona/marin, or machine with seb 228 will handle carpets really well.
Miele and sebo are both great and pretty similar, with differences in the power nozzles. Miele is not as user serviceable whereas the sebos et-1 brush is removable. The electric hoses can be a point of failure and the sebo if i remember right has replaceable components on the outside where as Mieles i believe have to replace the whole hose. As for bagged vs bagless, bagless machines are a little more work for the user as you need to maintain the filters and occasionally clean out the canister but are sometimes more convenient. Bagged machines are better if you have bad dust allergies and are generally lighter, because dust is bagged, filtration tends to be better and the canister is kept clean. You still have filters to change, but miele includes the basic ones with their bags which in my opinion are good for the average user. I personally got a miele at a really good price and have really enjoyed it so far.
Since you have a lot of hardwood and low pile rugs, you could go for most miele models, theres the guard series, L1, etc. A model with the parquet XL head (16 in) will give a pretty big cleaning path for hard floors!
Its not a bad machine, the plastics can be delicate. The miele and sebo are both good long term machines. I like miele but for carpets you need a power nozzle.
Well for starters, the white star isn't 12 years old. It's closer to 20. It would have been discontinued sometime in the 2000s. In fact, you could ask for a picture of the model number sticker underneath and it should have the year of manufacture on it.
The white star, while a great vacuum in itself, is suction only. It only came with an air driven brush head originally, and wouldn't be a good choice for medium and deeper carpet piles. Unless somebody has added the electric hose and electric power nozzle, it might not be suitable for some of the homes you clean.
And $250 is steep. Maybe with this information you could talk them down some.
Unusual, the miele c3 has more suction than any cordless vac and with the electrobrush head has better agitation than the dyson for carpets. Maybe it's a preference thing or something with your specific rugs. Sometimes vacuums just don't work on certain rugs because of the shear number of variations.
Sebo or miele if you want something high quality which will actually last 15+ years and be repairable should a part wear out. They have high performance and filtration standards.
The shark is fine for 3 to 5 years with decent performance.
The dyson, being cordless, you should only expect 2-4 years. And it won't have the performance of the others unless used on it's highest but shortest runtime mode.
Kinda comparing apples to oranges here. If you need something immediately the shark is probably ok, but if you want something to last definitley go check out miele and sebo.
I suggest the Costco guard l1 cat and dog plus , it’s $499 though but comes with both a good hard floor tool and a turbo brushed
Depending on how much area rug you have you and how thick the pile is the c3 limited edition at $449 right now is also a great deal
In Canada they all come with 5 year warranty parts and labour
S8s are super, super easy to repair. What broke?
The C3 is still available in some stores, even from Miele directly. I tried many other vacs and couldn’t find one that had the power and comfort and the S8/C3. The Guard L1 models are slightly less powerful, but still very good vacs.
Alternatively, the Sebo E3 is probably the closest thing. It doesn’t have as much power, and it isn’t available with HEPA-13 (or HEPA at all), nor is it as comfortable to use but they are very durable and well-engineered. People that don’t like them tend to not like them because of the hose, which is also a common complaint with the D4. Overall, the C3 is significantly more comfortable to use, more power, superior filtration, more aggressive carpet performance, more suitable for residential applications. If it is the motor in your S8 that died, the motors can be replaced in 2 - 5 mins. Very easy, not expensive. $130!USD is what I see that listed at.
Sebo has incredible customer service in my experience. Lenny, the corporate technician, had me ship him my Sebo X4 directly to him. He covered shipping, parts, and labor - even knowing I bought it on eBay. Granted the eBay seller was a retiring Sebo dealer who had one X4 left, in stock. Most companies would automatically disqualify it because it wasn’t purchased directly from the dealer itself. I told Lenny this, and he said as long as I could verify it was coming from the original dealer who purchased it from Sebo, that he would honor the warranty. He fixed it. $0 out of pocket except for the time, energy, gas, masking tape, etc I used packing it and taking it to the UPS store. Lenny had sent me a shipping label. I also appreciated that when I called, I spoke to someone I could hear (good reception), understand (linguistically), and made the experience very personal - not the typical over seas call center experience common in today’s world. It was impressive. I still prefer my Miele C3 as far as canister vacs are concerned, but Miele’s customer service line is hit and miss.
I've owned/ own both and prefer the Miele **C3** for a few reasons. It has more airflow, more suction, superior filtration (H13+) available, an aggressive beater bar (Sebo's is too gentle imo), and I find it significantly easier to use. It's also a very serviceable vac, very simple to take apart for tune-ups, repair, deep-cleaning, etc.
I found the Miele C3 to be a lot easier to disassemble than my E3 and D4. I can do it in 2 minutes flat with a drill.
I love the C3 models. They’re hard to beat. I wish more vacs were like them. It wish there was an upright version. Hopefully Miele will make one, at some point.
S8s are super, super easy to repair. What broke?
The C3 is still available in some stores, even from Miele directly. I tried many other vacs and couldn’t find one that had the power and comfort and the S8/C3. The Guard L1 models are slightly less powerful, but still very good vacs.
Alternatively, the Sebo E3 is probably the closest thing. It doesn’t have as much power, and it isn’t available with HEPA-13 (or HEPA at all), nor is it as comfortable to use but they are very durable and well-engineered. People that don’t like them tend to not like them because of the hose, which is also a common complaint with the D4. Overall, the C3 is significantly more comfortable to use, more power, superior filtration, more aggressive carpet performance, more suitable for residential applications. If it is the motor in your S8 that died, the motors can be replaced in 2 - 5 mins. Very easy, not expensive. $130!USD is what I see that listed at.
It’s also important to differentiate between types of HEPA. Miele’s HEPA is H13+ and almost H14. It’s very rare to find H13 in vacuum’s, as most are H11 if they even have HEPA. Rainbows also utilize H13, but aren’t the easiest bags to use if used frequently. I would definitely get a Miele Complete C3, Complete C3, Guard M1 or L1 AllFloors, one with the Parquet Twister floor-head. It significantly better than the AllTeq and FiberTeq heads, and you can get an extra-wide version of it. For rug(s), the TurboTeQ head is sufficient for low pile area rugs.
Miele Complete C3 canister, or a Sebo canister. Both are extremely well engineered. Sebo wands are more durable, but the Miele overlap has the most power, best filtration, and are known for lasting for 10 - 20 years (depending on use rate). It’s also a lot easier to use overall, lots of little things that add up. Sebo’s are commercial grade, more utilitarian, simpler, designed to be used for extended periods every day and still hold up for many, many years; but they come with some traded off drawbacks. I think the Miele canisters are the best choice for residential level cleaning (maybe twice per week for 20-30 mins each time), while the Sebo models are better for commercial level use - using it every day for 45 mins - 1+ hr). Canisters tend to be better for use floors, but both Sebo and Miele sell canisters that are exceptionally effective on carpet - rivaling premium uprights. Get the upgraded hardfloor tool with either brand you go with Sebo Premium Parquet or the Miele Parquet Twister floor head. The Miele version is a lot easier to whip around, but both are premium.
The lightest-weight upright vacs don’t do the best job, but canisters can be exceptionally effective and are the traditional choice for those that want an easy-to-push vac, have back problems, etc. They’re very handy. I used to hate using them but now they’re my preferred vac. They get under furniture, much easier to use attachments with, clean car out with, and they’re a lot better on hard floors. Miele and Sebo are the best canisters. Out of those, I recommend Miele for residential applications - specific models, though. C3 mainly, Guard L1 Electro. Either with the Parquet Twister floor head. The C3 is the best Miele, and has recently been discontinued so get one while you can. Sebo canisters are more utilitarian, simpler, slightly lower performance, but the wands are a little more durable. Still, I choose the Miele for its higher power, comfort features, and excellent filtration.
From a hose perspective, and the time required to use, upright vacs are annoying. They at first seem like they're the easiest, most powerful, fastest machines to use, but let me tell you, I have learned the truth. If you are like me and hate fighting the hose, hate having the upright fall on you, etc, you need to consider a canister, but not just any canister. THE most flexible, easiest-to-use vacuum from a hose-use perspective is any Miele canister with the Comfort-Grip handle. Why? I'll give you 4 reasons off the top of my head.
REASON 1:
Unlike most canisters, the Miele hose handle pivots left and right, AND rotates 360 degrees. Therefore, it does not tangle, and it does not pull on you or the vacuum nearly us much as other hoses do.
REASON 2:
The hose becomes very pliable over time. My Sebo hose (especially bad), Kirby, Rainbow, Hyla hoses have all been frustrating to use because they are (a) stiff, and (b) don't pivot (so they awkwardly pull on me and/or the machine and/or the floor tool).
REASON 3:
Additionally, with Miele's Parquet Twister hard floor tool, you can vacuum in much tighter, 90-degree angles than other vacs allow; and therefore you don't have to reposition yourself or the vacuum, or move furniture like you would with other machines.
REASON 4:
Ultimate cleaning performance and comfort is my end-game with vacs, and I haven't found a vacuum that beats my Miele C3 in that regard.
IS IT PERFECT?
Yes, and no. Does it have drawbacks? Sure, all vacuums do. It isn't ideal for commercial-level use, but that's okay. It was fine-tuned and engineered for residential household environments, oriented towards the most discerning, demanding customers. There are a couple of features I wish it had to make it even more of a pleasure to use, but my complaints are minor and have not affected my stance. It's the closest thing to a perfect vacuum that I can find, and Miele continues to refine them.
A bagged sealed system Miele HEPA is H13+ is the best filtering vacuum available. Ordinary vacuums use H10 or H11 HEPA, and are not fully sealed. Many “sealed system” vacuums are not actually sealed or don’t maintain their seals for long. It is exactly why I bought my C3. The Guard models are even more efficient than the C3, more like H13+.
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