Miele - Complete C3 HomeCare PowerLine - SGFE0

Plenty of options: Low budget: Kenmore 600 series pop and go Med/high: Miele C1 cat and dog, C3 Homecare, Sebo k3 or e3. You can safely ignore that Dyson/shark rec in the other comment. Neither are bagged and both are a joke. I have a hard time believing they even owned a Miele. Or if they did it was a hard-floor only model or something. Find a local dealer and take the above for a test drive to see which you prefer.

Miele, Sebo or Lindhaus. Check out r/vacuumcleaners

Ugh that product selector is terrible. No the pure suction would be terrible for a house with carpeted rooms. You need a C1 cat and dog at a minimum. IMO the C3 Homecare would be ideal because the cord is longer which better suits a home your size, onboard storage is a plus. And a longer warranty. They’re only sold at dealers, so find one locally and take it for a test drive. I’d also add a Sebo k3 or e3 to your short list as well. The 10 year warranty puts Miele’s to shame and the cleaning performance is basically the same. (I say this as a Miele C3 owner myself)

C3 Calima has an air driven turbo head - it will not suffice for carpeted rooms. Definitely the C1 cat and dog or a C3 Homecare (way more $$ but you may appreciate the longer cord, onboard tool storage and longer warranty) Honestly the best bang for your buck is a Sebo K3. It has mostly all of the benefits of the C3 Homecare (with an even longer warranty) for a few hundred less and it’s every bit as good (arguably better) than a Miele. (I say this as a Miele owner) Do you have a Miele or Sebo dealer nearby? Stop in and take all the above for a test drive.

The old ones yes do last more than a couple years. However, New sharks are an absolute joke. Disposable. A well built machine likely won’t have any issues in the first place, but if they do it’s easily repaired. For example I’ve had my Miele C3 for almost a decade and have had 0 issues with it. It will likely last another decade or longer before I give it to my kids or family. What’s your budget and flooring like?

If you like an upright, stick with an upright. It’s really personal preference - there is no right or wrong answer. But IMO canisters do have some pros that uprights don’t. Canister pros: 1) Better suited for 50:50 or mostly hard flooring. Canisters come with a “straight suction” floor attachment that is ideal for hard flooring (no brushroll) which is what you want. A dedicated tool for the flooring you’re trying to clean. Most uprights don’t have this (sans for a Sebo Felix) uprights make use of an electric powerhead on hard flooring which isn’t ideal - even if it’s shut off and on the hard floor setting. 2) Much lighter in the hand: the motor glides along behind you, so you’re only really holding ~3-5lbs in your hand. Lighter than most cordless sticks! 3) Above floor cleaning: drapes, ceilings, trim, cabinets etc. Many uprights have hoses etc. but it’s just not the same 4) IMO more maneuverable under furniture, in tight corners and in stairs Cons: 1) Learning curve: to some people, it can feel like it’s a “ball and chain” and they trip over the hose and motor. IMO this can be mitigated if you learn to vacuum *in* to rooms rather than backing out of them like a lot of us do with uprights Personally I was an upright fan until I got my Miele C3, it took a few uses. But now I can’t go back to an upright. They feel so heavy and bulky in comparison (IMO, YMMV). Do you have a local vacuum store that sells Miele or Sebo? Stop in and take a Sebo dart, Felix, k3 or e3. Or a Miele C1 cat and dog, C3 Excellence or C3 cat and dog for a test drive to see which you prefer.

Depends on your form factor preference. Upright or canister. Sebo and Miele are going to be the brands to look at. Canister: Miele C3, Sebo D4 or E3 Upright: Sebo Felix or Dart

Does not exist. Regardless of what marketing departments try to sell us - What you’re looking for is 3 separate pieces of equipment. 1) Dry, corded and bagged primary vacuum for weekly deep clean: Miele C1 Cat and Dog, Miele C3 Homecare, Sebo K3, dart/felix, e3 2) Cordless/bagless stick for quick daily messes: LG A9 or Bissell airram 3) The gold standard for wet cleaning: A good old mop and bucket. The combo machines are a joke and will be in the trash within a year or two. Put the blinders on, ignore the marketing hype, go with what is tried and true.

I think what you’re looking for is a 2 vacuum solution. A cordless/bagless just isn’t up to the task of whole home cleaning. We’ve been oversold on their capabilities by large marketing budgets. Grab a Cordless/bagless stick for quick daily pickups: LG A9, Bissell airram or Miele triflex Then, get a corded and bagged machine for your weekly deep cleans. All of the corded models are bulletproof and should last you 20+ years. Which model largely depends on your budget and preference. Miele C3 Homecare, Sebo k3, E3 or Felix IMO I’d find a Miele/Sebo dealer locally and test drive the above.

This is the answer! You can still get a Miele for only hard flooring.

You’ve done a good amount of legwork to get to this point. IMO go to your local Miele/Sebo dealer and test drive the C1 cat and dog, C3 home care, Sebo K3/E3/D4 to see which you prefer. From a repairability standpoint Sebo edges out Miele and they also have a longer warranty (I say this a Miele owner) but there really isn’t a wrong option between The two brands.

For carpeting the C3 multi surface will not cut it. That’s really only meant for a couple small, low pile area rugs. You will be disappointed in this machine on your carpet. You need an electric powerhead (the multi surface uses an air driven turbine head). The cheapest Miele or Sebo model with an electric powerhead (that works well on stairs) starts with the C1 Cat and Dog. Which is a great option for you. Although it’s slightly over the multi surface price point. And depending on your home size, you may find the cord to be short. The Next cheapest is the Sebo K3. You could do an upright Sebo dart, but stairs are going to be a challenge with that. It’s still doable with the turbo handheld attachment.

Plenty of options. You’ll probably want a (bagged) canister-style considering you have mostly hard floors. Miele C1 Cat and Dog, C3 Homecare, Sebo K3, E3, or a Sebo Felix is you prefer an upright. IMO the next step is finding a local Miele/Sebo dealer and taking the above for a test drive. Both brands are great. Sebo has a fantastic warranty advantage over Miele. That’s really the largest differentiator.

I wouldn’t seriously consider a Dyson. You’re on the right track with Miele and Sebo with your budget you’ll have plenty of options. Canister vs upright is personal preference. Since you’re undecided I’d find a local Miele/Sebo dealer and take the following for a test drive to see which you prefer. (That said, I’m a total canister convert. They’re very light in the hand and great for above floor cleaning and stairs, but there is a learning curve for sure.) Sebo dart, Felix, K3, E3 Miele C1 Cat and Dog, C3 Kona or C3 Homecare All of these will require minimal maintenance. A bag change every time it’s full (usually every 3 months or so) and motor filters once a year. That’s IT. These are nothing like bagless machines which require cleaning/messing with every other vacuum session.

Personally I wouldn’t get another cordless bagless as your primary vacuum. They’re not up to this task (regardless of what marketing departments tell us). Ideally you want 2 vacuums. 1) cordless bagless for quick daily messes: LG A9 2) corded and bagged primary weekly deep clean vacuum: Look at a Miele C1 cat and dog, C3 Homecare or Sebo K3/E3

1 vacuum can definitely handle all flooring types. It’s going to be corded and bagged. Check out: Miele C1 cat and dog, Miele C3 Homecare, Sebo K3/E3/dart/felix IMO find a local Miele/Sebo dealer and take the above for a test drive. Depending on which model you pick, you’d have enough budget for a quick daily mess cordless vacuum and keep the corded vac for weekly deep cleans. That’s the best setup imo.

Check out r/vacuumcleaners As mentioned Miele and Sebo are top brands. You can safely ignore any shark or Dyson recs. They’re garbage. As is anything bagless.

Vacuum wars is a paid shark shill and not to be trusted. Hell Chris even appeared in a shark commercial. BIFL vacuums absolutely exist. They’re corded and bagged made by brands like Miele and Sebo.

Agree with J3ttf! The Miele is a worthy splurge!

I have one for quick messes and love it. It’s the perfect pair to my C3 (thanks to performance reviews for the tip) I believe both those models have the powered attachment point. It’s when it’s called the S194 is when you need to do your due diligence. Worst case, as for a picture of the attachment point. It’s easy to see if it’s electrified or not.

Well, no offense - if you have carpets you bought the worst Miele for your use case. You want something **bagged**. It requires no cleaning. Just a new bag when it’s full (2-3 months) and new filters annually. That’s it. So a Miele C1 cat and dog, C3 Homecare or Sebo K3 or E3. Miele is currently closing out their current lineup so you can definitely get a deal on outgoing models (which imo are better than the new ones)

I own both, and would have a hard time deciding if I could only keep one. They both have excellent suction and work great, but there are (personal) plusses and minuses to each. If you can go to a vac store and see them demonstrated in person that would be the way to go. Good luck!

Odd, because their website claims in bold print that they are the west coast's largest AUTHORIZED Sebo dealer. They have been in business since the 1950's and have excellent customer service. I have purchased a Sebo and a Miele from them and have been very pleased. (They even sent me a t-shirt that says "Business has sucked for 75 years!!" My son wears it.)

The electro brush is motor powered and only needed if you have high‑pile rugs or wall‑to‑wall carpet. The Turbo Brush is powered by suction which is perfect for area rugs. The C3 Calima is what comes to mind when I think of your needs is on sale right now https://amzn.to/451F17T The C1 is good, but with the C3 you get a longer cord, better suction control and a gentler parquet head for the hardwood floors.

Yeah these are all similar. They are clearing some vacuums due to new guar series hitting later, Option 1 and 3 are identical models Option 4 is the same model as 1 and 3 just different colour really, deeper sale than usual Option 5 was last gen Costco model similar to option 2. Costco model doesn’t go on sale but stays on the low price year round These models have a stb305 turbo brush , it uses the air flow to spin bristles to pick up hair, for denser / thicker carpet you can rotate the logo and let air in from the top too so the bristles can still spin It’s good for low to medium pile carpeting but if you have wall to wall then something with an electro brush is a good upgrade TLDR, the two to consider are the gala edition due to the low price and the Costco multi surface I would lean multi surface due to having the turbo brush since you have carpet If you didn’t then the gala edition

You turn off the power head from the handle on a Miele Not the suction control but realistically few have it on other than max, even if you are not supposed to

Go to Costco and buy the Miele c3 multi surface, it’s going to be replaced with a new vacuum soon so expect it to clear out It is right now $399 online down from $469

With only hardwood and vinyl, you could look at the Miele Complete C3 Multi Surface that’s right at the top of your budget. Should tick all of your boxes perfectly for the next 20+ years. https://www.costco.ca/miele-complete-c3-multi-surface-care-canister-vacuum.product.4000176316.html The SEBO K2 Kombi’s a little cheaper at $449 CAD, but doesn’t include as many floor heads as that particular Miele. Top-tier longevity and build quality though. https://sebocanada.ca/products/sebo-airbelt-k2-kombi-canister-vacuum The Simplicty Jill comes in at only half the price of the Miele/SEBO canisters, but is more of a budget machine in terms of longevity/build/quality of life features. Still, it’ll clean hard floors just as well as anything else. https://www.vacuumdistrict.ca/shop/simplicity-jill-canister/ (not necessarily recommended these specific stores/sites, would recommend shopping around for whoever has the best deal on these particular vacuums)

You do you! This forum isn't here to sway you over to the dark side, it's here to inform. Some people want "clean and hygienic" more than convenience. My Miele C3 Homecare with power brush fits the bill for me. It has a sealed HEPA filter so the air that comes out is cleaner than the air that is sucked in (I don't need bulky air purifiers in every room of my house). The canister has very handy attachments that make THOROUGH cleaning of my spaces much easier...from ceiling, blinds, and under furniture. The disposable bags only have to be changed every few months and they seal off completely for disposal...so much cleaner. If you have animals and/ or allergies, a good sealed HEPA vacuum will be your best friend. And lastly, check back in 20 years and let us know how much you have paid for your vacuums/air purifiers during that time.

I’m curious about this “deodorizer “ that folks need with the SEBO vacuums. I have a big hairy dog and allergies. With my Miele C3 ( HyClean HEPA, no charcoal) I never notice any odors and have never noticed any stink…not even when changing the bag. Does this mean the Miele has better filtration?

I paid $150 for a used C3 Homecare with powered brushhead. I bought it locally so I could try it out in person. I have hardwood as well as area rugs AND I have a highly shedding Golden Retriever. After having a C3 WITHOUT powered brushhead for 20 years...I had no idea what I was missing. I wouldn't be without one again. The electrified wand and electrobrush will almost triple the cost of this vacuum.

I purchased a Miele C3 Homecare model from a local shop on Thursday. Today is Sunday, and when I went to use it, I noticed a small piece of plastic on the floor of my cleaning closet. It took me awhile to figure out where the piece had come from, but eventually I did. The plastic cracked/broke where the hose meets the handle. A three day old vacuum that I've used for maybe 15 minutes. A $1300 vacuum. I'm so upset I could cry. I never even disconnected the hose from the handle. I didn't drop it. I'm planning to go in tomorrow to talk to the salesman. At this point, I don't want a replacement, I want a full refund. I don't trust the build quality. I don't know what the return policy is--I didn't ask, the website doesn't say, and it was a handwritten-paper-receipt kind of place. How do I get my money back? I purchased with a credit card so I could go the chargeback route, but I'd rather not do that. If you work at/own a vacuum shop, I'm curious how you would handle an issue like this. Thanks for your time.

Well if you want a quiet vacuum, (the quietest to be specific) your option is the Miele C3. The Miele c1 is marginally louder but still quieter than a Sebo. Both are quieter than any Dyson lmao (those things are crazy loud and they don't even tune their motors to offload the whine behind our scope of hearing). The Miele c3 on max is quieter than a Dyson on normal. So the cheapest option would be the Miele c1 classic pure suction. The nicest option would be the c3 gala edition. Both are hard floor only machines, but the build quality of the c3 really speaks for itself. If you're iffy about spending so much on a Miele, try visit a local vacuum store with mieles. They'll be happy to let you try them out and Miele dealers will always sell lower than online listed MSRP. You'll also hear firsthand how much quieter they are. Technically speaking, all bagless machines will be pretty loud bc they don't have much soft padding to capture the sounds (bag, nice filter). Cordless machines overall are very loud because their motors are smaller, spinning at a higher speed to generate similar pressure, and those tiny whirring things make a huge high pitched sound, characteristic of any Dyson machine (vacuum, hairdryer, hand dryer). Combine a cordless bagless and you have the absolute worst care scenario for sound dampening. Mieles recently upped their motor rpm while reducing size, but they tune their motors such that the majority of the sound falls above the frequency of our hearing. My cat doesn't seem to hate my Miele so clearly it's not that loud ultrasonic either. Checkout rtings.com for objective measurements but lemme tell you: we've been a Miele family for about 2 decades now. I bought my mom a Dyson v11 thinking it'll be great for the kitchen but she hates it! It's loud, clunky, weak (relatively: it cant rice grains from the corners) and it needs SOOOOO much brush roll maintenance omfg. Huge waste of money tbh. It's still hung in the kitchen but I think they only use it for vacuuming the stairs now (with the electro tool). The Miele canister is obviously better for our cars too. Nowadays, I think the avg active home only needs a bagged corded vacuum, and a robot. There's very little place for cordlesses imo ESPECIALLY as EVs now have power outlets that allow the use of a normal vacuum.. (I have one and my partner still uses it more than I do, but we wouldn't be in need without one. I only bought it bc I found it for a steal not because I wanted a cordless).

Sebo e3 (under 900 from a dealer if you ask nicely) comes with a 10 year warranty from said sealer. Their bags & filters are a little pricey but worth it for the excellent machine. I am however a Miele fan and I do think they command their higher price. Unfortunately Miele has lowered their warranties recently from 10 to 3 😭. I believe it's 5 for the homecare models purchased in store. Definitely go to a vacuum store and test drive the Sebo e3 vs the Miele C3 like of machines. At your price I say get the Marin (or homecare e) for the increased features. You can get it for around $1200 usually from a dealer. The c3 Kona is the cheaper model at under 900, but doesn't have a headlight, auto suction, or filter timer, but works just the same. If you're buying Miele, buy the homecare model. Either Miele or Sebo will last you more than 20 years with good care. They can be repaired from just about any damage. And they'll clean better than literally any other vacuum (certainly better than anything cordless or bagless). Mieles have marginally more suction, with a higher grade of filtration, and feel better in the hand. Sebos are a little more industrial. Both are amazing but I think the Miele is just a bit better. Better enough I'd say splurge for the brilliant/homecare+ ($1500-1800) but you have to try it first. I bought my Miele used, and it's the best $300 I've spent. It's a little crunchier than my parents older miele which we bought new, but mine is a UniQ ($1500 MSRP). Those fingertip controls are SOOOOO nice 😭 There's nothing cuntier than a Miele homecare+ when it comes to cleaning 🤷🏾‍♂️ Unsaid but needs to be said: bagged canisters are the ONLY option when versatility and longevity are the goals. Edit: forgot that Mieles new guard L1 electro will be releasing soon. Basically all the same but it has an app now to tell you to change the bag. And it's a new bag, so you can be damn sure it won't be bundled cheaply with the filter. Same filter. Also no headlight on the carpet brush. Tbh I'd say use the impending release of the L1 to snatch up a deal on the miele C3 Marin (homecare e) or Brilliant (homecare+).

Long story short: no. Mostly because of cordless, as that mostly scuttles your requirement for asthma care. Most cordlesses are bagless, and one trip emptying that bin and it's game over for your bronchioles depending how bad the asthma is. There's basically only one bagged cordless (Henry quick, so check that out, but it doesn't stand) but it's not really meant for primary use. The Miele cordlesses (triflex), are great for what they are (bagless and cordless) and they stand up, have swappable batteries and work well. Their filtration/dust sequestration will always be worse than a bagged. I love my triflex but I also use it maybe once a month or less because of my corded, bagged Miele. I understand you don't want to compromise but what you describe is impossible with how our technology works rn, just like fusion, solid state batteries, or SC power lines, the technology is not there, and even worse than those technologies I listed, very few are working on what you want. You can get everything you want if you accept a cord or accept dirtier air with a bagless. If cost really isn't an issue then I'd say buy a corded bagged vacuum (not the shark rocket, it's generous to call that a real vacuum) and get a robot for daily maintenance. That's probably the best of both worlds as you don't have to compromise on clean or a cord, you just need two devices to meet your needs. If you've never used a cord reel I'd suggest trying it as well. My robot is absolutely the hardest working member of my household, so maybe a robot is what you're looking for? Good luck! But what you're looking for doesn't exist, unfortunately. And because I'm that girl: the only consumer vacuum in existence that's fully HEPA certified is the Miele c3 with their HEPA filter installed, so make of that what you will. That means not only is its filter hepa, but the machine is fully sealed and certified through testing to not allow more than 99.95% of particles smaller than 2.5 microns through. If you want the best clean available, especially noticeable to asthmatics, a Miele c3 is the only answer. Edit: my personal cleaning peeve is running wheeled things over hard floors, which is extra why im recommending the Miele c3. It's just so grating and demoralizing to hear those damn wheels every fkn pass. And no power/motor head will be as nimble as an articulated hard floor tool. If your space is hard floors, you actually have it a bit easier, as carpets make vacuums more expensive. And getting Miele or Sebos cheapest will still suit your needs. I know i said triflex comes close to what you want, but misses asthma care. I say get a bagged c3 and miss out on cordless but actually have a clean home with a machine that'll last a lifetime and work like new until the day it dies (which may be never with care). My skin is crawling thinking about running my triflex all over my hard floors.

Sebo’s are overhyped i’m very happy with my miele C3

Lol 1 C3 Kona does all that these machines can just an overkill of machines in one house😂😂😂😂😂 nothing to flex about lol

I got one c3 with electric kit and straight suction hose wand and parquet twister/ airteq and the full kit from Homecare kit

Yeah sure Henry HVR 200 vs miele Complete C3 🤣🤣🤣 henry gets eaten for breakfast just like everything else in the UK Henry is becoming a laugh

Sebo’s are originally made for commercial usage they can be used for household cleaning. Miele’s are made for household in Europe they are the Mercedes of vacuums. They have features to make them more user friendly my C3 has built in tools under a special hood, touch powersettings with symbol, tools are more refined and the machine it self is nicer to look at in case you can’t store them in a cupboard or closet! Thats why I prefer Miele when using it in my home it doesnt feel like the vacuum operates me but I am in control of vacuuming with it following behind me. And in case I have sudden visitors at the front door i’m not like get that clunky ugly machine out of the room😂😅 so it’s more user prefference at the end of the day they both get the jobs done for years to come

Yeah true but for me it feels bulky and big the way the C3 is made its more long and narrow easier to pull along

Ugh the Sebo’s get in the chat again! He say’s Miele so i suggest a old stock c3 with a powerhead or a S1 electro is also a good choice with powerhead enjoy your Miele i got 3 currently enjoy them very much