Complete C3 HomeCare+ PowerLine - SGPE0

I've read enough posts here to know that a cordless vac will never complete with a corded unit. I've had my Miele Capricorn for years and love it, and we also have a Roborock robot that for whatever reason I really only use to vacuum and mop the kitchen daily. I've had a Dyson v6 around for years for quick clean ups, kitty litter spills etc but it's getting pretty worn. I've been tempted to grab a refurb Dyson v8/10 \~$200, but I know Dyson sucks (or doesn't suck to be more accurate...) What else should I be looking at for a cordless vac that preferably won't end up with my wifes long hair or cat hair wrapped around the roller constantly?

Miele. Have had our platinum since 1998, Capricorn since 2005, C1 since 2005, C1 since 2009, another Capricorn since 2013, and C3 since 2015. All still working beautifully, only issues were with the 2013 Capricorn, which has been to the repair shop multiple times - bad apple blended with an aggressive housekeeper. We would never consider purchasing anything but Miele. Because of our positive experience with the vacuum, we bought a Miele refrigerator and a Miele dishwasher in 2013 and both are still going strong with minor repairs along the way. Miele is well worth the investment.

Miele. Have had our platinum since 1998, Capricorn since 2005, C1 since 2005, C1 since 2009, another Capricorn since 2013, and C3 since 2015. All still working beautifully, only issues were with the 2013 Capricorn, which has been to the repair shop multiple times - bad apple blended with an aggressive housekeeper. We would never consider purchasing anything but Miele. Because of our positive experience with the vacuum, we bought a Miele refrigerator and a Miele dishwasher in 2013 and both are still going strong with minor repairs along the way. Miele is well worth the investment.

They do get gummy, I've only got old used ones rehabbed from eBay finds. The Capricorn definitely has a bit of tackiness to it, but not unbearable. The Gemini has a more basic handle without the controls in it. It must not have had the rubberized grip, it's not sticky at all. It had paint chipping here and there, but with new filters and a new bag it surprised the heck out of me with how well it sucked. The wands must be that long to reach up I'm guessing. I'm 6'2", 6'3" on a good day and there's at least 2-3 clicks length left when it's at a comfortable height for me.

Probably just a dusty connection. It would be worth the cost for a can of electrical contact cleaner to see if it would help. I have an older Miele Capricorn with the button controls on the handle and it would shut the vac off if the handle and wand were in just the right position. I took it apart, cleaned it up with the spray, made sure all the buttons were good and clean. It works like new, or what I imagine new would be, no issues whatsoever. I'm sure that's why this vacuum was being sold. It was a bit fiddly getting the handle back together but not terrible.

I'd take the opportunity to get a Miele c3 Marin or Brilliant/homecare+ at a good price. It seems like they're dropping their (very nice imo) seb236 floor head. Or you'll need the new guard l1 electro. You'll need an electro head for your needs. (So c3 cat& dog to answer your title question, but my recommendation is for the Homecare+ (or the Marin for a better value). Visit a dealer and get them for a good price (900 for the Kona, 1100 for the Marin, and under 1500 for the homecare+/brilliant). Get the homecare models from a dealer if you can. The better warranty and added tools are great.

Sebo e3 (under 900 from a dealer if you ask nicely) comes with a 10 year warranty from said sealer. Their bags & filters are a little pricey but worth it for the excellent machine. I am however a Miele fan and I do think they command their higher price. Unfortunately Miele has lowered their warranties recently from 10 to 3 😭. I believe it's 5 for the homecare models purchased in store. Definitely go to a vacuum store and test drive the Sebo e3 vs the Miele C3 like of machines. At your price I say get the Marin (or homecare e) for the increased features. You can get it for around $1200 usually from a dealer. The c3 Kona is the cheaper model at under 900, but doesn't have a headlight, auto suction, or filter timer, but works just the same. If you're buying Miele, buy the homecare model. Either Miele or Sebo will last you more than 20 years with good care. They can be repaired from just about any damage. And they'll clean better than literally any other vacuum (certainly better than anything cordless or bagless). Mieles have marginally more suction, with a higher grade of filtration, and feel better in the hand. Sebos are a little more industrial. Both are amazing but I think the Miele is just a bit better. Better enough I'd say splurge for the brilliant/homecare+ ($1500-1800) but you have to try it first. I bought my Miele used, and it's the best $300 I've spent. It's a little crunchier than my parents older miele which we bought new, but mine is a UniQ ($1500 MSRP). Those fingertip controls are SOOOOO nice 😭 There's nothing cuntier than a Miele homecare+ when it comes to cleaning 🤷🏾‍♂️ Unsaid but needs to be said: bagged canisters are the ONLY option when versatility and longevity are the goals. Edit: forgot that Mieles new guard L1 electro will be releasing soon. Basically all the same but it has an app now to tell you to change the bag. And it's a new bag, so you can be damn sure it won't be bundled cheaply with the filter. Same filter. Also no headlight on the carpet brush. Tbh I'd say use the impending release of the L1 to snatch up a deal on the miele C3 Marin (homecare e) or Brilliant (homecare+).

If you bought a Dyson outsize and want to buy another one in 5 years, go to a Miele dealer and buy the Miele c3 homecare+, get that machine serviced every 5 years and never look back. It's expensive but 100% worth it for the fingertip controls, the superior seb236 carpet brush, and the extra attachments and warranty as being sold as a homecare model from a dealer. Use only Miele bags, be gentle, and read the instructions and it may outlive you! As is their design, the fine dusts from your and your dogs hair/skin have clung to the cyclones and possibly the motor. It's also possible you've never cleaned your filters but I'll assume you have. Any cordless, with fastidious maintenance can last up to or around a decade, losing suction in the last half of life A bagged canister, like the Miele c3 or Sebo e3, will not lose suction to an appreciable degree in the course of 10 years, when using real Miele bags. More than 99% of the captured dirt is trapped in the bag, with the remainder being trapped in the HEPA exhaust filter. Being a canister form factor it's also incredibly convenient, reducing strain on your wrist, allowing you a telescopic wand and long hose everywhere you go with tools close at hand. The cord reel makes cords forgettable and the bags last 3-6 months (depending on your living/shedding sitch). Having truly adjustable suction means you can vacuum delicate stuff like curtains or chachkis. Mieles also are built better and feel better in hand than the Dysons. The click of Miele attachments is 🤤 An abused Miele can last a decade. A normal meile could last 20 years. A Miele with care will easily last 40. Put some effort and it can literally last forever. They're made to be opened, serviced, cleaned, and reassembled forever, unlike Dysons with clips and adhesives. The Sebo e3 will work mostly as good as the Miele and offers a little more value over the brilliant (a little) but I prefer Mieles hard and carpet tools. Mieles also feel better in hand. Ultimately, Mieles bags and HEPA filters are also cheaper for us in the US with the allergy bundle. If you're the one spending the money and doing the vacuuming, I say get the Porsche over the VW (is that offensive to the Sebo fans lol). So go to your local vacuum dealer and try out the Miele c3 homecare+ (brilliant) and the Sebo e3. I think once you get a real (corded, bagged) vacuum you'll recognize even the biggest baddest Dyson cordless is a toy, relatively.

TL;DR: go to a Miele dealer (use their website to find one) buy the C3 homecare+ for full home cleaning, demote the Dyson to quick jobs, never look back. If you have gen5 detect money (and interest) buy the vacuum that made Dyson increase their filtration standard: a Miele. I thought it was funny Dyson did this as it retroactively pulled the facade off of their previous marketing. For the best performance on hard floors you'll want a machine with their parquet twister attachment, it's what made me fall in love with Mieles in middle school. Currently it works like a dream for my kitty and her ways. (And that original one still works for my parents 17 years later). Technically Mieles cheapest machine, the c1 classic, functions just as well on hard floors when using the same tool as their most expensive machine, the c3 brilliant. They have the same motor, use the same bags, and have the same filter media, but the c3s are MUCH quieter, fully sealed, have bigger bag compartments, and store their tools onboard. The c2 models are a happy in between. They're fully sealed, are quieter but not as quiet as the c3, and also have the onboard tools. Contemporary c2s are made in China with German motors. They're just as well built as the German plastic machines. Technically they're better built because Miele innovated on the s5000 shell which became the c2. Having taken apart both, the c2s construction is more like a brilliant than the c1 classic. As of right now, only Mieles c3s are built completely in Germany. All their bagged models use German made motors but the remainder are formed in China. All the bagless models are completely made in China. No knock against Chinese manufacturing, it's excellent obviously, but that's the T with Mieles current production chain for vacuums. I like my first gen triflex even. Because your budget is $600 (medium-high) and you have carpets, that complicates my recommendation: If you're buying a machine you should buy the one that fully encapsulates your use and use it how you like. Don't purposefully buy something that does less when you can use more, and you can afford more. No matter what you buy it'll outlive and outperform the gen 5. A straight suction Miele might even marginally outperform it on your carpets... Then, you have the Dyson Gen 5 vs the v12/15 (which tells me you care about "the best", technology, and convenience physical constraints be damned) which points me to recommend you Mieles top of line canisters: the c3 electro models (Kona, Marin, Brilliant/ homecare, homecare e, homecare +). They come standard with the electro carpet brush and the parquet twister, as well as the HEPA filter. The Marin adds some longevity and QOL electronics like a filter life timer, parking shutoff switch, and auto suction as well as the seb236, Mieles low profile and led-lit carpet brush. The Brilliant, the one I think you should get, has what the Marin has plus fingertip controls & a display. This makes switching surfaces and tools on the fly so much easier. It also kinda obviates the parking switch. You should buy them from a vacuum store, miele dealer, to get the best deal and get the homecare models with the longer warranty and more tools. From a dealer, you can likely get the Kona for $850, Marin for $1100, and brilliant for $1500, but you might have a harder time finding that brilliant deal as it kinda pads the coffers. Like I said, the c1 classic and a parquet twister will get you the same clean, but it's time to demote the Dyson and get a real vacuum as your primary. The Dyson can be used for quick runs and it'll thank you for it (by living longer than 5). Your carpets will also likely thank you for it. Ik I blew past your budget, but it really seems like you can afford it so 🤷🏾‍♂️ Sebos have better warranties, and some like them better, but they're marginally louder, less powerful, and filter less well than a Miele. And when comparing to a c3, Mieles bags & filters are cheaper in their allergy bundle. Mieles also have a better feel in hand... Which is the whole point imo. You can likely try a Sebo wherever you go to buy that Miele homecare+ 😘 so make sure to try it out too. I think Mieles parquet twister and seb236 are better than sebos articulating floor tool or et1. But that's my opinion. The fully in price recommendation for hard floors would the c3 gala or the c2 hard floor. Marginally in budget but all inclusive machine would be the c1 centennial (if you can find it for $650 and buy the parquet twister). Another option, but a little stretch is the c1 homecare with electro brush (only available from Miele dealers). Even an abused Miele will last a decade. Get the nicest one you can afford, take care of it, and have a perfectly clean home for more than 20 years. No joke. Also, your Dyson is leaving stuff in the carpets that an electro Miele will capture. Your first bag will fill fast (as does everyone's unless they already had a Miele/Sebo).

Sebo e3 (under 900 from a dealer if you ask nicely) comes with a 10 year warranty from said sealer. Their bags & filters are a little pricey but worth it for the excellent machine. I am however a Miele fan and I do think they command their higher price. Unfortunately Miele has lowered their warranties recently from 10 to 3 😭. I believe it's 5 for the homecare models purchased in store. Definitely go to a vacuum store and test drive the Sebo e3 vs the Miele C3 like of machines. At your price I say get the Marin (or homecare e) for the increased features. You can get it for around $1200 usually from a dealer. The c3 Kona is the cheaper model at under 900, but doesn't have a headlight, auto suction, or filter timer, but works just the same. If you're buying Miele, buy the homecare model. Either Miele or Sebo will last you more than 20 years with good care. They can be repaired from just about any damage. And they'll clean better than literally any other vacuum (certainly better than anything cordless or bagless). Mieles have marginally more suction, with a higher grade of filtration, and feel better in the hand. Sebos are a little more industrial. Both are amazing but I think the Miele is just a bit better. Better enough I'd say splurge for the brilliant/homecare+ ($1500-1800) but you have to try it first. I bought my Miele used, and it's the best $300 I've spent. It's a little crunchier than my parents older miele which we bought new, but mine is a UniQ ($1500 MSRP). Those fingertip controls are SOOOOO nice 😭 There's nothing cuntier than a Miele homecare+ when it comes to cleaning 🤷🏾‍♂️ Unsaid but needs to be said: bagged canisters are the ONLY option when versatility and longevity are the goals. Edit: forgot that Mieles new guard L1 electro will be releasing soon. Basically all the same but it has an app now to tell you to change the bag. And it's a new bag, so you can be damn sure it won't be bundled cheaply with the filter. Same filter. Also no headlight on the carpet brush. Tbh I'd say use the impending release of the L1 to snatch up a deal on the miele C3 Marin (homecare e) or Brilliant (homecare+).

Well if you want a quiet vacuum, (the quietest to be specific) your option is the Miele C3. The Miele c1 is marginally louder but still quieter than a Sebo. Both are quieter than any Dyson lmao (those things are crazy loud and they don't even tune their motors to offload the whine behind our scope of hearing). The Miele c3 on max is quieter than a Dyson on normal. So the cheapest option would be the Miele c1 classic pure suction. The nicest option would be the c3 gala edition. Both are hard floor only machines, but the build quality of the c3 really speaks for itself. If you're iffy about spending so much on a Miele, try visit a local vacuum store with mieles. They'll be happy to let you try them out and Miele dealers will always sell lower than online listed MSRP. You'll also hear firsthand how much quieter they are. Technically speaking, all bagless machines will be pretty loud bc they don't have much soft padding to capture the sounds (bag, nice filter). Cordless machines overall are very loud because their motors are smaller, spinning at a higher speed to generate similar pressure, and those tiny whirring things make a huge high pitched sound, characteristic of any Dyson machine (vacuum, hairdryer, hand dryer). Combine a cordless bagless and you have the absolute worst care scenario for sound dampening. Mieles recently upped their motor rpm while reducing size, but they tune their motors such that the majority of the sound falls above the frequency of our hearing. My cat doesn't seem to hate my Miele so clearly it's not that loud ultrasonic either. Checkout rtings.com for objective measurements but lemme tell you: we've been a Miele family for about 2 decades now. I bought my mom a Dyson v11 thinking it'll be great for the kitchen but she hates it! It's loud, clunky, weak (relatively: it cant rice grains from the corners) and it needs SOOOOO much brush roll maintenance omfg. Huge waste of money tbh. It's still hung in the kitchen but I think they only use it for vacuuming the stairs now (with the electro tool). The Miele canister is obviously better for our cars too. Nowadays, I think the avg active home only needs a bagged corded vacuum, and a robot. There's very little place for cordlesses imo ESPECIALLY as EVs now have power outlets that allow the use of a normal vacuum.. (I have one and my partner still uses it more than I do, but we wouldn't be in need without one. I only bought it bc I found it for a steal not because I wanted a cordless).

Long story short: no. Mostly because of cordless, as that mostly scuttles your requirement for asthma care. Most cordlesses are bagless, and one trip emptying that bin and it's game over for your bronchioles depending how bad the asthma is. There's basically only one bagged cordless (Henry quick, so check that out, but it doesn't stand) but it's not really meant for primary use. The Miele cordlesses (triflex), are great for what they are (bagless and cordless) and they stand up, have swappable batteries and work well. Their filtration/dust sequestration will always be worse than a bagged. I love my triflex but I also use it maybe once a month or less because of my corded, bagged Miele. I understand you don't want to compromise but what you describe is impossible with how our technology works rn, just like fusion, solid state batteries, or SC power lines, the technology is not there, and even worse than those technologies I listed, very few are working on what you want. You can get everything you want if you accept a cord or accept dirtier air with a bagless. If cost really isn't an issue then I'd say buy a corded bagged vacuum (not the shark rocket, it's generous to call that a real vacuum) and get a robot for daily maintenance. That's probably the best of both worlds as you don't have to compromise on clean or a cord, you just need two devices to meet your needs. If you've never used a cord reel I'd suggest trying it as well. My robot is absolutely the hardest working member of my household, so maybe a robot is what you're looking for? Good luck! But what you're looking for doesn't exist, unfortunately. And because I'm that girl: the only consumer vacuum in existence that's fully HEPA certified is the Miele c3 with their HEPA filter installed, so make of that what you will. That means not only is its filter hepa, but the machine is fully sealed and certified through testing to not allow more than 99.95% of particles smaller than 2.5 microns through. If you want the best clean available, especially noticeable to asthmatics, a Miele c3 is the only answer. Edit: my personal cleaning peeve is running wheeled things over hard floors, which is extra why im recommending the Miele c3. It's just so grating and demoralizing to hear those damn wheels every fkn pass. And no power/motor head will be as nimble as an articulated hard floor tool. If your space is hard floors, you actually have it a bit easier, as carpets make vacuums more expensive. And getting Miele or Sebos cheapest will still suit your needs. I know i said triflex comes close to what you want, but misses asthma care. I say get a bagged c3 and miss out on cordless but actually have a clean home with a machine that'll last a lifetime and work like new until the day it dies (which may be never with care). My skin is crawling thinking about running my triflex all over my hard floors.

They're the best. It's hard to really capture why they're so amazing without using one yourself. I'm glad you like it! https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxUXkgU738xlrJ_rCqPFmY6qq3qnAlOkVP?si=5bIaqi_7qz98kfSq

The Miele C3 makes cleaning folks who haven't used one find God. It's that good. The only girl in the game sucking who NEVER quits. I believe Trixie bought the new Triflex Pro but katya seemingly has 3 C3s for the different floors of her old house 💀 I love that they give representation to every community, especially vacuum freaks like me 🥰

It depends which model you get and what region you're in. If you get a miele with the electric carpet brush, then it's suitable for all floor types and thickness of carpet. The suction only turbo nozzle vacuums are only suitable for thinner carpet and rugs, somewhat.

Dyson's done good work innovating tiny powerful motors and battery density but considering the competition has caught up, right now their price is a brand image thing. LG and Miele make better cordless vacuums at a similar price point (they're more easily repairable and maintainable) Overall cordlesses aren't made for daily use, especially with more than one person or a pet. There's way too much dust and you can expect around 3 good years from any model. Barely anyone empties bagless machines when they hit the full line, allowing more dust to transit the motor killing it faster. With a bagless, cordless(small) and an animal, esp if one or both of you have long hair or a lot of body hair, you may need to empty that bin halfway per room. If you're willing to drop $400 on a vacuum and looking for quality (and want to buy new) get a bagged, corded canister. Even a mediocre one can last 20 years. The best last for longer especially when maintained. The bags fill every 4ish months, and if you swap your filters every set of bags (usually every year or two) you won't have cat or vacuum smell accumulating. The cords are usually on self-winding reels, and because the motor is in a pod that follows you, there's very little weight on the wrist. Canister also have long hoses and telescoping wands, by design, making cleaning surfaces easier (corners, vents, baseboards, windows, AC units, etc). The nicer/nicest canisters are quieter, more powerful, and filter better than literally any cordless on the market (checkout rtings.com for head to heads, if you'd like). Most cordless vacuums have electrically driven brushes which are good for carpet, but a little dismal for floors. They'll scratch the most delicate floors with their wheels and they'll bulldoze clumps and particles. Best case scenario is you have to hear the droning of the brush and the wheels as you cover every sqft with that 8" head. All canisters are designed for hard floors, the best having articulating tools, without moving parts that can suck up clumps and particles without clogging and allow you to sweep over your floors (like how the Dyson omniglide advertises it can emulate). Cordlesses are meant to be for quick/urgent cleans, however home cleaning is largely regular/preventative. Having a cat myself, I've found the "fantasy" to be a robot vacuum with a real vacuum (for maintenance and deeper cleans). I do own a cordless but I rarely use it (it's a Miele triflex, 1st gen). I have a Miele c3 (S8) canister and a dreame l10s ultra robotthe robot sweeps 3 times a day, mops the cat area daily, and mops the whole place twice a week. I swap its water weekly and swap its bag every 5~ months. I swap my Miele canister bag every 6~ months, but I sometimes clean for my friends and family so that's including their dirt. The business end of my robot certainly gets dirty as it sucks/licks my floors clean daily and I have an elderly cat, but my least favorite part of vacuum maintenance is still cleaning my triflex's pre filter. It's such fine dust and gets everywhere; having a bigger vacuum is necessary for this. A couple with a cat in a one bedroom (also my situation) would probably fill a Miele bag every 6-9 months, thus requiring new bags & filters every 2-3 years. My vacuum's filter timer corroborates this rough estimate. So if you're hard on that $400 price point, and require buying new you're in a bit of a bind for attaining the fantasy, but that's okay! The best place to start is with a bagged, corded canister, then you can wait some time and get a robot later. Then you'll have both and both will have longer lifespans as they care for each other (I'm serious lol). The easiest way to stay in budget is buying this "real" vacuum used. Depending where you are, you can get a $1500 vacuum for <$300 with some patience and hunting. Buying new: go to a vacuum store (with your partner ofc) with Sebo and Miele and try them out. The quality is palpable. At your price point, you can afford the Sebo k2 kombi or Sebo e1(better) or the Miele C1 (hopefully you can get a deal on their homecare model). I prefer Miele because they're quieter, more powerful, and filter better, but they're more expensive and Sebo recently has demonstrated they're more serious about vacuums than Miele is. Miele hasn't changed their builds or practices but no longer offer the 10yr or 7yr warranties like they used to (Sebo still does). Mieles made-in-China machines (the cheaper c1 and c2 machines) still have the German motors and the build is excellent as expected (let's be real, China is the leader rn in quality manufacturing too). If you're buying Miele bags and the sfha50 (full size) filter, Miele bags & filters are cheaper(in the allergy bundle). If you're just using Mieles basic filter included with the bags, Mieles bags & filters are cheaper. If you need the Miele compact HEPA (sfha30), then the Miele bags & filters are more expensive than Sebo. Only buy the xiaomi family of robot vacuums (roborock, dreame, mova) as they're built excellently and are easily repairable. eBay has excellent refurb deals on dreame & roborock, just be patient. And they include warranties! Skip buying new garbage cyclically: get something that lasts once, take care of it, and never have to buy it again 🤷🏾‍♂️ I bought my s8 UniQ (retailed for $1500) from a cleaning company for $300, serviced it myself, and it runs beautifully; now it's a teenager! My parents vacuum is old enough to vote and it runs quieter than mine. Mine certainly shows battle scars but these machines are made to last and made to be taken care of. When you think of a vacuum like a major appliance, the price tag is easily to swallow. They are major and can last longer than many other things. If you have the scratch, and you're gonna be vacuuming justifying $1800 on the Miele homecare+ (or $1100 on the Sebo e3 if you like that better) is a no brainer. Only issue there is making sure your relationship lasts longer than the vacuum 😘🙏🏾💖 as I imagine custody battles over a Miele homecare+ can get ugly.

I do actually have to corroborate this because I do see people complaining (which is their experience) but in my many warranty requests with shark, they were pretty easy to work with, a the most I did was a little video call with a representative but tbh thts kinds nice because it's a person who's talking to you and affirming you're about to receive xyz products in the mail for free and here are the links to using it installing them. Sure the warranty is 4years maybe on their most premium vac (what's it today y'all?) and they will die eventually afterwards without parts. But hey the company is mostly upfront about their marketing first, wowing upfront performance and shorter life cycles (implicitly) and honor their contracts easily.

A shark apex was the first vacuum I bought myself as an adult. I grew up with a miele canister. After a year ish I immediately bought a miele canister on marketplace and ofc it was much better for slightly cheaper (a miele UniQ!). I cleaned up and gave that shark to my bestie's family who still use it (and know how to maintain it well). I bought my brother and Apex for his housewarming (before I got my uniq) and it's a great vacuum for them too but they're not very meticulous users (and have a German shepherd) so it died in under 4 years. As a vacuum nut who acquires new/user vacuums for fun for my loved ones, sharks best stuff does work better than 90% of the crap that's out there... But knowing what I know now after a decade+ of vacuum nuttery, things like a miele/Sebo noticeably and materially outperform a shark, no contest. The economics of shark ownership are really not there in my experience.... ESPECIALLY compared to a Kenmore... Also being a canister vacuum nuts makes me resent shark a little. Though I got my cousin to buy the shark canister and it's great but they're also not meticulous users so I should've found them a miele 🤷🏾 Sharks aren't bad~ but they're always worse... So why not get the better performer (Germans) or the better value (Kenmore)? This is also ignoring the consumerist plague that is the sharkninja company... Their products always mostly work but are also almost always mostly outlcassed by their peers. Overall, it's a "why bother" from me. But get off the cross buddy, you're not a Dyson owner 😂

Yes they still do and it's been the same vaccums: corded bagged machines. Even a corded bagged Bissell/Hoover can put in some work for a while with care. A Kenmore bagged vacuum is better. Miele and sebo are the best and can last 30 years with a bit of maintenance. Never expect any bagless or battery powered vacuum to survive daily service with shedding animals.

I wouldn't bother with the Kenmore because of the excess of hair. Get a miele with the seb228 or 236, not the seb217 (the skinnier shaft makes wraps more common, like with the Sebo ET1). What's your budget and timeline for the machine because I'm pretty gung ho about buying used and self servicing... But I recognize that's not for everyone and not everyone has a flexible budget. The Kenmore will work for years with care and you can service them decently easily. A miele will be a tank and feel better to use every moment you use it. The value of that price difference (let's say $400 vs $950 new) is up to you. A used like new Kenmore 600 series canister for ~$250 is an excellent price point for getting something that works and it can't be forgotten because of how inexpensive it is.

The simple existence of a bag in a vacuum changes a lot of dynamics of how vacuums work. Ultimately they're cleaner and easier to maintain and allow the machine to live longer. Bagless machines need to be emptied per room, and washed monthly to retain performance and live towards a decade. Bagged machines need a bag swap every few months and s filter swap yearly (or less frequently for a smaller or less active home). Having something "capture" the dust is better than having something to "hold" the dust, if that makes sense. It's not even a competition and it's just the fluid dynamics of the machines. Bagless machines were invented as a compromise (and the technology has not panned out in the way James Dyson originally envisioned, a la the failure of their "Cinetic" cyclones). And in that time bags have gotten better and cheaper to produce. So today, there's really no use for a bagless machine as a primary vacuum for a home.

Mieles are organized in 4 tiers: C1 Compact (entry level, smaller, for apartments & small homes), Guard M (replaces the previous C3, none of these have a power nozzle in the US Market), C3 (outgoing workhorse, find one this Black Friday, they are solid machines, the Kona, Cat & Dog, Marin, HomeCare E+ all have power nozzles), and the Guard L series. The black L models are suction only, the blue and titanium have power nozzles. The new Guard models that are labeled Cat & Dog do not have a power nozzle, instead they use an air driven turbo floor nozzle.

Ideally, you have a vacuum retailer near you so you can test drive these and get a good deal; Miele C3, these are being closed out and remaining stock is marked down. The Kona, Cat & Dog, Marin, and Homecare E+ are the C3s to look for. A Miele C1 Cat and Dog is also a solid choice. There are 2 brand new L1 Guard vacuums from Miele; the L1 (blue) and L1 Electro (titanium). All of these models but the Marin use the same SEB 228 power nozzle. The Marin gets a lower profile SEB 236 with an LED light. Only dealers can sell the Homecare and Electro models, these have 5 year warranty’s vs standard 3 year. Discounts for Black Friday are @20% for remaining C3s, at least 15% everything else. For Sebo, the E3 and K3 are excellent vacuums to also consider. German made like Miele, 10 year warranty’s if purchased from a dealer, and very reliable.

I agree with previous poster, offer $500 and highlight the vacuum's age. I paid $400 for a HomeCare E+ in similar condition and luckily it is has been an excellent used vacuum.

I have both Miele and Sebo canisters. The Miele SEB power nozzles handle thicker pile carpet better than the Sebo. I have a thick pile area rug in the master bedroom and the Sebo can't handle it. The Meile wand will go flat for under furniture cleaning, the elbow is angled more than the Sebo, in practice it isn't a significant difference. The Miele expendables (bags/filters) cost a bit more than Sebo and maintenance for a Miele will cost more compared to Sebo. The Sebo's break down much easier, quicker than a Meile. Which would I choose? I prefer my Miele C3 over the Sebo E3, but for whole house cleaning the Sebo D4 with the 40' cord and 1.5 gallon bag is the clear winner.

Congratulations and look forward to your follow up review after a whole house cleaning. Miele did a poor job assessing the US market for the Guard series. We get the same handle and hose as the previous models; not the new handle with controls released in Europe. They discontinued the SEB 236 power nozzle (LED light, lower profile), and only two models with a power nozzle. None of the Cat and Dog models have a power nozzle! The new Fiber TeQ All Floor attachment looks promising though and will probably be added to my C3's arsenal of tools.

Both Sebo E3 and Miele C3 canister vacuums are top tier. Both use the same handheld turbo brush attachment (made by Wessel Werk) that is excellent for dog beds, upholstery, stairs. The Miele C3’s are discounted now as the new Guard series is replacing them. A Miele white dog and cat model or Marin navy blue model are probably the best pet vacuums you can get.

If you are future proofing your purchase, the D4 is ideal for the 3K+ home. In use, the D4 with its rotating hose is very manageable, not too different than a C3. Carrying the body alone upstairs is 15.9 pounds vs 12.5 for a C3. The Sebo wand and head is lighter than a C3 with a SEB 228 power nozzle.

I have Corgis and they shed fur as a hobby. Sebo or Miele with a power nozzle, not the entry level suction only machines. The ideal pair is a Sebo E3 canister and Felix upright. The Felix is my daily, the E3 is my weekly deep cleaner. There are clearance deals on the Miele C3s right now; look for the Cat & Dog, Marin and even the HomeCare+ canisters. The Miele power nozzles handle deep pile better than Sebo, otherwise the vacuums are tied for performance.

The first things you'll notice about a modern vacuum is how quiet and compact they are compared to your Silver King. The Sebo D4 Onyx (or any Onyx version) opens the door to dealer-only extended warranty, pricing and accessory packages; 10 years motor/casing, parts and 7 year labor. Now that Miele rolled out their Guard series of vacuums, remaining stock of C3s are discounted. Standard warranty on a C3 is three years, but if there is a HomeCare edition (Red color), they are the Meile dealer-only line and warranted to 5 years. Only the entry level Miele's are Chinese, the majority are manufactured in Germany/Europe. The Guard Titanium is the current, dealer-only model from Miele. Both brands are BIFL, and the canisters are the GOAT for whole house cleaning (dusting, furniture, stairs, etc.). The D4 is designed for larger homes (40' cord, 1.5g bag). The Sebo E3 and Miele C3/Guard series are in the sweet spot for the average size home with a mix of bare floors and carpet. Models with a power nozzle will provide the most versatility to grow with your needs as you move from rentals to your final home. Get both brands and various models in your hands and test drive them in store. Black Friday is coming and these are always discounted this time of year.

No. The M1 Cat & Dog is a suction only machine, it does not come with a power nozzle. The attachment it includes is an air driven turbo and the package no longer includes the handheld mini turbo tool. We have bare floors and wool rugs on the main floor and use the C3 with the SEB 228 power nozzle. C3 models like the Kona, Cat & Dog, HomeCare, and Marin. The Miele Classic C1 is your entry-level option with a power nozzle and should be discounted still at your local dealer. We have two very active Corgis that bring in mud, leaves, fur, etc., especially now that we have rain and snow. I use the Bona flat mop with microfiber pad and hardwood floor cleaner. For quick cleanups, I grab the Bona mop handle and use the Bona pre-soaked pads for hard wood. I use the basic Bona pet system that includes the tool, dusting mop and micro fiber pad. They also make waterbased cleaning solutions for cleaners that are safer for pets.

Miele an Sebo are the premium canisters due to quality, warranty, and filtration. Of the two, Miele hoses are more flexible. I have both the Sebo E3 and D4, and both hoses are stiff and bulky due to their tapered design. I also have the Miele C3 and prefer it for dusting because Miele makes a larger, fully articulating brush (SUB 20) that works on the ceiling fans and bookshelves. For hard floor cleaning, the parquet twister is my go to, both Sebo and Meile have a version of this attachment. Based on your cleaning needs, a suction only machine will work well. Look at the Miele Classic C1 or Guard M1. Sebo comes in a close second place for portability. Look at the E1 or K2 Kombi and add the parquet twister. If you have a vacuum dealer, go there, the Black Friday discounts will be better and they will give you a package discount for any additional attachments, bags, etc.

Pick one of the Dyson's, ditch the Shark. EDIT: My go-to, very convenient vacuum is a Felix and I deep clean with either a Sebo D4 or Miele C3.

The Sebo X4 is best suited and designed for carpet and not hardwood floors. It does not have an option to turn off the brush roll for your wood floors. The Sebo Felix is an ideal option for your floors and will clean above the floor. Add the optional 9' extension hose and it makes stairs, walls, etc. easier. I own several models of both the Miele (C3, U1 upright) and Sebo (E3, D4, Felix) vacuums and found both brands have excellent quality and longevity. The Sebo models are designed for easier repair and have longer warranties. The consumables such as filters and bags are cheaper for the Sebo as well. But, my Miele C3 is my favorite for whole house cleaning. The parquet twister makes quick work of hard floors and goes easily under furniture and the handheld turbo tool (same Wessel Werk design for both Sebo and Miele brands) is excellent for your upholstery, pillows, carpeted stairs. Since you have a few low pile rugs, I don't think you require a power nozzle, it would be overkill. The new Miele Guard M1 or L1 series vacuums in the Cat and Dog versions will provide all the floor tools needed in your space. It's a lightweight, quiet, and very durable design. Add the new FiberTeQ AllFloor attachment and you're set!

I bought a used Miele C3 home care plus ($1500+) with extra filters and bags for $350 on Facebook marketplace. I cleaned it up a bit and it works good as new, best vacuum I’ve ever had. Don’t listen to folks telling you not to buy used; actually good vacuums are insanely expensive and used is absolutely a viable option if you want to be a little more frugal. Obviously the only caveat is to be patient and wait for the right deal.

Does not exist. Regardless of what marketing departments try to sell us - What you’re looking for is 3 separate pieces of equipment. 1) Dry, corded and bagged primary vacuum for weekly deep clean: Miele C1 Cat and Dog, Miele C3 Homecare, Sebo K3, dart/felix, e3 2) Cordless/bagless stick for quick daily messes: LG A9 or Bissell airram 3) The gold standard for wet cleaning: A good old mop and bucket. The combo machines are a joke and will be in the trash within a year or two. Put the blinders on, ignore the marketing hype, go with what is tried and true.

You’ve done a good amount of legwork to get to this point. IMO go to your local Miele/Sebo dealer and test drive the C1 cat and dog, C3 home care, Sebo K3/E3/D4 to see which you prefer. From a repairability standpoint Sebo edges out Miele and they also have a longer warranty (I say this a Miele owner) but there really isn’t a wrong option between The two brands.

I wouldn’t seriously consider a Dyson. You’re on the right track with Miele and Sebo with your budget you’ll have plenty of options. Canister vs upright is personal preference. Since you’re undecided I’d find a local Miele/Sebo dealer and take the following for a test drive to see which you prefer. (That said, I’m a total canister convert. They’re very light in the hand and great for above floor cleaning and stairs, but there is a learning curve for sure.) Sebo dart, Felix, K3, E3 Miele C1 Cat and Dog, C3 Kona or C3 Homecare All of these will require minimal maintenance. A bag change every time it’s full (usually every 3 months or so) and motor filters once a year. That’s IT. These are nothing like bagless machines which require cleaning/messing with every other vacuum session.

Personally I wouldn’t get another cordless bagless as your primary vacuum. They’re not up to this task (regardless of what marketing departments tell us). Ideally you want 2 vacuums. 1) cordless bagless for quick daily messes: LG A9 2) corded and bagged primary weekly deep clean vacuum: Look at a Miele C1 cat and dog, C3 Homecare or Sebo K3/E3

1 vacuum can definitely handle all flooring types. It’s going to be corded and bagged. Check out: Miele C1 cat and dog, Miele C3 Homecare, Sebo K3/E3/dart/felix IMO find a local Miele/Sebo dealer and take the above for a test drive. Depending on which model you pick, you’d have enough budget for a quick daily mess cordless vacuum and keep the corded vac for weekly deep cleans. That’s the best setup imo.

Well, no offense - if you have carpets you bought the worst Miele for your use case. You want something **bagged**. It requires no cleaning. Just a new bag when it’s full (2-3 months) and new filters annually. That’s it. So a Miele C1 cat and dog, C3 Homecare or Sebo K3 or E3. Miele is currently closing out their current lineup so you can definitely get a deal on outgoing models (which imo are better than the new ones)

Knowing you have a few rugs and one is shaggy (those are tough for any vacuum FYI) I’d lean towards a Miele C1 cat and dog. You’ll want the electric powerhead imo. Or if it’s a larger home look at a C3 Homecare.

Miele C3 Homecare or Sebo K3, E3 or D4 is the correct answer. Find a local Miele/Sebo dealer and take them all for a test drive.

I’d look at the Miele C3 Homecare if they still have it, or Sebo K3 or E3. No wrong answer, they are all excellent. The biggest difference is Sebo’s longer warranty. Find a local dealer that sells both ideally and take them all for a test drive to see which you prefer.

All 3 are excellent. You really can’t do wrong between the 3. Personally I’d place more weight on the price, warranty etc between the two brands. It’s splitting hairs (see what I did there?) but I’d rank them 236, et-1, 228 in the order of cleaning performance alone. Like I said, they’re all great I don’t think there is a “right” or wrong answer here. The removable brush is a huge plus for Sebo. But IMO the Miele cleans better. However the Miele’s are not user serviceable. Also know that while I think the 236 cleans the best (by a narrow margin) it does have this awkward belt placement where it leaves a path of uncleaned carpet about 3/4 off to the side. I use that as a guide on how much to overlap but some people find it annoying.

I have one for quick messes and love it. It’s the perfect pair to my C3 (thanks to performance reviews for the tip) I believe both those models have the powered attachment point. It’s when it’s called the S194 is when you need to do your due diligence. Worst case, as for a picture of the attachment point. It’s easy to see if it’s electrified or not.

Don’t overpay for a rainbow. You can get a Sebo d4 or Miele C3 for less than half. For allergies you want something corded **and bagged**. Find a local Miele/Sebo dealer and give those a try. Which exact model depends on your flooring.

I’d avoid any bagless stick vacuum. A canister style is very light in the hand because the motor glides along behind you on the floor. Sebo K3, E3 or Miele C3 would be the best choices. Your local dealer probably has them on sale. If you don’t have a dealer there are deals to be had online and many users here own stores and will ship

It’s not a waste at all. It’s arguably the best vacuum on the market. I use my Miele C3 canister 2-3 times a week. It’s less convenient than a stick, sure. But you can always grab a cheap stick for daily quick messes and use the D1 for weekly deep cleans.

Check out r/vacuumcleaners As mentioned Miele and Sebo are top brands. You can safely ignore any shark or Dyson recs. They’re garbage. As is anything bagless.

Vacuum wars is a paid shark shill and not to be trusted. Hell Chris even appeared in a shark commercial. BIFL vacuums absolutely exist. They’re corded and bagged made by brands like Miele and Sebo.

*Cordless* Vacuums are disposable. **Corded and bagged** vacuums like a Miele or Sebo will last you 2 decades or longer. Ask r/vacuumcleaners

Miele, Sebo, Henry, Lindhaus. Shark and Dyson are garbage. Check out r/vacuumcleaners

You want to ask r/vacuumcleaners. Miele or Sebo is the correct answer. Corded and bagged. Safely ignore any shark or Dyson recs. Find a local dealer and take a few Miele’s and sebos for a test drive. Specifically the Sebo dart if it’s mostly for carpet.