Complete C3 HomeCare+ PowerLine - SGPE0

I've read enough posts here to know that a cordless vac will never complete with a corded unit. I've had my Miele Capricorn for years and love it, and we also have a Roborock robot that for whatever reason I really only use to vacuum and mop the kitchen daily. I've had a Dyson v6 around for years for quick clean ups, kitty litter spills etc but it's getting pretty worn. I've been tempted to grab a refurb Dyson v8/10 \~$200, but I know Dyson sucks (or doesn't suck to be more accurate...) What else should I be looking at for a cordless vac that preferably won't end up with my wifes long hair or cat hair wrapped around the roller constantly?

Miele. Have had our platinum since 1998, Capricorn since 2005, C1 since 2005, C1 since 2009, another Capricorn since 2013, and C3 since 2015. All still working beautifully, only issues were with the 2013 Capricorn, which has been to the repair shop multiple times - bad apple blended with an aggressive housekeeper. We would never consider purchasing anything but Miele. Because of our positive experience with the vacuum, we bought a Miele refrigerator and a Miele dishwasher in 2013 and both are still going strong with minor repairs along the way. Miele is well worth the investment.

Miele. Have had our platinum since 1998, Capricorn since 2005, C1 since 2005, C1 since 2009, another Capricorn since 2013, and C3 since 2015. All still working beautifully, only issues were with the 2013 Capricorn, which has been to the repair shop multiple times - bad apple blended with an aggressive housekeeper. We would never consider purchasing anything but Miele. Because of our positive experience with the vacuum, we bought a Miele refrigerator and a Miele dishwasher in 2013 and both are still going strong with minor repairs along the way. Miele is well worth the investment.

They do get gummy, I've only got old used ones rehabbed from eBay finds. The Capricorn definitely has a bit of tackiness to it, but not unbearable. The Gemini has a more basic handle without the controls in it. It must not have had the rubberized grip, it's not sticky at all. It had paint chipping here and there, but with new filters and a new bag it surprised the heck out of me with how well it sucked. The wands must be that long to reach up I'm guessing. I'm 6'2", 6'3" on a good day and there's at least 2-3 clicks length left when it's at a comfortable height for me.

Probably just a dusty connection. It would be worth the cost for a can of electrical contact cleaner to see if it would help. I have an older Miele Capricorn with the button controls on the handle and it would shut the vac off if the handle and wand were in just the right position. I took it apart, cleaned it up with the spray, made sure all the buttons were good and clean. It works like new, or what I imagine new would be, no issues whatsoever. I'm sure that's why this vacuum was being sold. It was a bit fiddly getting the handle back together but not terrible.

I'd take the opportunity to get a Miele c3 Marin or Brilliant/homecare+ at a good price. It seems like they're dropping their (very nice imo) seb236 floor head. Or you'll need the new guard l1 electro. You'll need an electro head for your needs. (So c3 cat& dog to answer your title question, but my recommendation is for the Homecare+ (or the Marin for a better value). Visit a dealer and get them for a good price (900 for the Kona, 1100 for the Marin, and under 1500 for the homecare+/brilliant). Get the homecare models from a dealer if you can. The better warranty and added tools are great.

Long story short: no. Mostly because of cordless, as that mostly scuttles your requirement for asthma care. Most cordlesses are bagless, and one trip emptying that bin and it's game over for your bronchioles depending how bad the asthma is. There's basically only one bagged cordless (Henry quick, so check that out, but it doesn't stand) but it's not really meant for primary use. The Miele cordlesses (triflex), are great for what they are (bagless and cordless) and they stand up, have swappable batteries and work well. Their filtration/dust sequestration will always be worse than a bagged. I love my triflex but I also use it maybe once a month or less because of my corded, bagged Miele. I understand you don't want to compromise but what you describe is impossible with how our technology works rn, just like fusion, solid state batteries, or SC power lines, the technology is not there, and even worse than those technologies I listed, very few are working on what you want. You can get everything you want if you accept a cord or accept dirtier air with a bagless. If cost really isn't an issue then I'd say buy a corded bagged vacuum (not the shark rocket, it's generous to call that a real vacuum) and get a robot for daily maintenance. That's probably the best of both worlds as you don't have to compromise on clean or a cord, you just need two devices to meet your needs. If you've never used a cord reel I'd suggest trying it as well. My robot is absolutely the hardest working member of my household, so maybe a robot is what you're looking for? Good luck! But what you're looking for doesn't exist, unfortunately. And because I'm that girl: the only consumer vacuum in existence that's fully HEPA certified is the Miele c3 with their HEPA filter installed, so make of that what you will. That means not only is its filter hepa, but the machine is fully sealed and certified through testing to not allow more than 99.95% of particles smaller than 2.5 microns through. If you want the best clean available, especially noticeable to asthmatics, a Miele c3 is the only answer. Edit: my personal cleaning peeve is running wheeled things over hard floors, which is extra why im recommending the Miele c3. It's just so grating and demoralizing to hear those damn wheels every fkn pass. And no power/motor head will be as nimble as an articulated hard floor tool. If your space is hard floors, you actually have it a bit easier, as carpets make vacuums more expensive. And getting Miele or Sebos cheapest will still suit your needs. I know i said triflex comes close to what you want, but misses asthma care. I say get a bagged c3 and miss out on cordless but actually have a clean home with a machine that'll last a lifetime and work like new until the day it dies (which may be never with care). My skin is crawling thinking about running my triflex all over my hard floors.

They're the best. It's hard to really capture why they're so amazing without using one yourself. I'm glad you like it! https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxUXkgU738xlrJ_rCqPFmY6qq3qnAlOkVP?si=5bIaqi_7qz98kfSq

The Miele C3 makes cleaning folks who haven't used one find God. It's that good. The only girl in the game sucking who NEVER quits. I believe Trixie bought the new Triflex Pro but katya seemingly has 3 C3s for the different floors of her old house 💀 I love that they give representation to every community, especially vacuum freaks like me 🥰

It depends which model you get and what region you're in. If you get a miele with the electric carpet brush, then it's suitable for all floor types and thickness of carpet. The suction only turbo nozzle vacuums are only suitable for thinner carpet and rugs, somewhat.

I do actually have to corroborate this because I do see people complaining (which is their experience) but in my many warranty requests with shark, they were pretty easy to work with, a the most I did was a little video call with a representative but tbh thts kinds nice because it's a person who's talking to you and affirming you're about to receive xyz products in the mail for free and here are the links to using it installing them. Sure the warranty is 4years maybe on their most premium vac (what's it today y'all?) and they will die eventually afterwards without parts. But hey the company is mostly upfront about their marketing first, wowing upfront performance and shorter life cycles (implicitly) and honor their contracts easily.

A shark apex was the first vacuum I bought myself as an adult. I grew up with a miele canister. After a year ish I immediately bought a miele canister on marketplace and ofc it was much better for slightly cheaper (a miele UniQ!). I cleaned up and gave that shark to my bestie's family who still use it (and know how to maintain it well). I bought my brother and Apex for his housewarming (before I got my uniq) and it's a great vacuum for them too but they're not very meticulous users (and have a German shepherd) so it died in under 4 years. As a vacuum nut who acquires new/user vacuums for fun for my loved ones, sharks best stuff does work better than 90% of the crap that's out there... But knowing what I know now after a decade+ of vacuum nuttery, things like a miele/Sebo noticeably and materially outperform a shark, no contest. The economics of shark ownership are really not there in my experience.... ESPECIALLY compared to a Kenmore... Also being a canister vacuum nuts makes me resent shark a little. Though I got my cousin to buy the shark canister and it's great but they're also not meticulous users so I should've found them a miele 🤷🏾 Sharks aren't bad~ but they're always worse... So why not get the better performer (Germans) or the better value (Kenmore)? This is also ignoring the consumerist plague that is the sharkninja company... Their products always mostly work but are also almost always mostly outlcassed by their peers. Overall, it's a "why bother" from me. But get off the cross buddy, you're not a Dyson owner 😂

Yes they still do and it's been the same vaccums: corded bagged machines. Even a corded bagged Bissell/Hoover can put in some work for a while with care. A Kenmore bagged vacuum is better. Miele and sebo are the best and can last 30 years with a bit of maintenance. Never expect any bagless or battery powered vacuum to survive daily service with shedding animals.

I wouldn't bother with the Kenmore because of the excess of hair. Get a miele with the seb228 or 236, not the seb217 (the skinnier shaft makes wraps more common, like with the Sebo ET1). What's your budget and timeline for the machine because I'm pretty gung ho about buying used and self servicing... But I recognize that's not for everyone and not everyone has a flexible budget. The Kenmore will work for years with care and you can service them decently easily. A miele will be a tank and feel better to use every moment you use it. The value of that price difference (let's say $400 vs $950 new) is up to you. A used like new Kenmore 600 series canister for ~$250 is an excellent price point for getting something that works and it can't be forgotten because of how inexpensive it is.

The simple existence of a bag in a vacuum changes a lot of dynamics of how vacuums work. Ultimately they're cleaner and easier to maintain and allow the machine to live longer. Bagless machines need to be emptied per room, and washed monthly to retain performance and live towards a decade. Bagged machines need a bag swap every few months and s filter swap yearly (or less frequently for a smaller or less active home). Having something "capture" the dust is better than having something to "hold" the dust, if that makes sense. It's not even a competition and it's just the fluid dynamics of the machines. Bagless machines were invented as a compromise (and the technology has not panned out in the way James Dyson originally envisioned, a la the failure of their "Cinetic" cyclones). And in that time bags have gotten better and cheaper to produce. So today, there's really no use for a bagless machine as a primary vacuum for a home.

Mieles are organized in 4 tiers: C1 Compact (entry level, smaller, for apartments & small homes), Guard M (replaces the previous C3, none of these have a power nozzle in the US Market), C3 (outgoing workhorse, find one this Black Friday, they are solid machines, the Kona, Cat & Dog, Marin, HomeCare E+ all have power nozzles), and the Guard L series. The black L models are suction only, the blue and titanium have power nozzles. The new Guard models that are labeled Cat & Dog do not have a power nozzle, instead they use an air driven turbo floor nozzle.

Ideally, you have a vacuum retailer near you so you can test drive these and get a good deal; Miele C3, these are being closed out and remaining stock is marked down. The Kona, Cat & Dog, Marin, and Homecare E+ are the C3s to look for. A Miele C1 Cat and Dog is also a solid choice. There are 2 brand new L1 Guard vacuums from Miele; the L1 (blue) and L1 Electro (titanium). All of these models but the Marin use the same SEB 228 power nozzle. The Marin gets a lower profile SEB 236 with an LED light. Only dealers can sell the Homecare and Electro models, these have 5 year warranty’s vs standard 3 year. Discounts for Black Friday are @20% for remaining C3s, at least 15% everything else. For Sebo, the E3 and K3 are excellent vacuums to also consider. German made like Miele, 10 year warranty’s if purchased from a dealer, and very reliable.

I agree with previous poster, offer $500 and highlight the vacuum's age. I paid $400 for a HomeCare E+ in similar condition and luckily it is has been an excellent used vacuum.

I have both Miele and Sebo canisters. The Miele SEB power nozzles handle thicker pile carpet better than the Sebo. I have a thick pile area rug in the master bedroom and the Sebo can't handle it. The Meile wand will go flat for under furniture cleaning, the elbow is angled more than the Sebo, in practice it isn't a significant difference. The Miele expendables (bags/filters) cost a bit more than Sebo and maintenance for a Miele will cost more compared to Sebo. The Sebo's break down much easier, quicker than a Meile. Which would I choose? I prefer my Miele C3 over the Sebo E3, but for whole house cleaning the Sebo D4 with the 40' cord and 1.5 gallon bag is the clear winner.

Congratulations and look forward to your follow up review after a whole house cleaning. Miele did a poor job assessing the US market for the Guard series. We get the same handle and hose as the previous models; not the new handle with controls released in Europe. They discontinued the SEB 236 power nozzle (LED light, lower profile), and only two models with a power nozzle. None of the Cat and Dog models have a power nozzle! The new Fiber TeQ All Floor attachment looks promising though and will probably be added to my C3's arsenal of tools.

Both Sebo E3 and Miele C3 canister vacuums are top tier. Both use the same handheld turbo brush attachment (made by Wessel Werk) that is excellent for dog beds, upholstery, stairs. The Miele C3’s are discounted now as the new Guard series is replacing them. A Miele white dog and cat model or Marin navy blue model are probably the best pet vacuums you can get.

If you are future proofing your purchase, the D4 is ideal for the 3K+ home. In use, the D4 with its rotating hose is very manageable, not too different than a C3. Carrying the body alone upstairs is 15.9 pounds vs 12.5 for a C3. The Sebo wand and head is lighter than a C3 with a SEB 228 power nozzle.

I have Corgis and they shed fur as a hobby. Sebo or Miele with a power nozzle, not the entry level suction only machines. The ideal pair is a Sebo E3 canister and Felix upright. The Felix is my daily, the E3 is my weekly deep cleaner. There are clearance deals on the Miele C3s right now; look for the Cat & Dog, Marin and even the HomeCare+ canisters. The Miele power nozzles handle deep pile better than Sebo, otherwise the vacuums are tied for performance.

The first things you'll notice about a modern vacuum is how quiet and compact they are compared to your Silver King. The Sebo D4 Onyx (or any Onyx version) opens the door to dealer-only extended warranty, pricing and accessory packages; 10 years motor/casing, parts and 7 year labor. Now that Miele rolled out their Guard series of vacuums, remaining stock of C3s are discounted. Standard warranty on a C3 is three years, but if there is a HomeCare edition (Red color), they are the Meile dealer-only line and warranted to 5 years. Only the entry level Miele's are Chinese, the majority are manufactured in Germany/Europe. The Guard Titanium is the current, dealer-only model from Miele. Both brands are BIFL, and the canisters are the GOAT for whole house cleaning (dusting, furniture, stairs, etc.). The D4 is designed for larger homes (40' cord, 1.5g bag). The Sebo E3 and Miele C3/Guard series are in the sweet spot for the average size home with a mix of bare floors and carpet. Models with a power nozzle will provide the most versatility to grow with your needs as you move from rentals to your final home. Get both brands and various models in your hands and test drive them in store. Black Friday is coming and these are always discounted this time of year.

No. The M1 Cat & Dog is a suction only machine, it does not come with a power nozzle. The attachment it includes is an air driven turbo and the package no longer includes the handheld mini turbo tool. We have bare floors and wool rugs on the main floor and use the C3 with the SEB 228 power nozzle. C3 models like the Kona, Cat & Dog, HomeCare, and Marin. The Miele Classic C1 is your entry-level option with a power nozzle and should be discounted still at your local dealer. We have two very active Corgis that bring in mud, leaves, fur, etc., especially now that we have rain and snow. I use the Bona flat mop with microfiber pad and hardwood floor cleaner. For quick cleanups, I grab the Bona mop handle and use the Bona pre-soaked pads for hard wood. I use the basic Bona pet system that includes the tool, dusting mop and micro fiber pad. They also make waterbased cleaning solutions for cleaners that are safer for pets.

Miele an Sebo are the premium canisters due to quality, warranty, and filtration. Of the two, Miele hoses are more flexible. I have both the Sebo E3 and D4, and both hoses are stiff and bulky due to their tapered design. I also have the Miele C3 and prefer it for dusting because Miele makes a larger, fully articulating brush (SUB 20) that works on the ceiling fans and bookshelves. For hard floor cleaning, the parquet twister is my go to, both Sebo and Meile have a version of this attachment. Based on your cleaning needs, a suction only machine will work well. Look at the Miele Classic C1 or Guard M1. Sebo comes in a close second place for portability. Look at the E1 or K2 Kombi and add the parquet twister. If you have a vacuum dealer, go there, the Black Friday discounts will be better and they will give you a package discount for any additional attachments, bags, etc.

Pick one of the Dyson's, ditch the Shark. EDIT: My go-to, very convenient vacuum is a Felix and I deep clean with either a Sebo D4 or Miele C3.

The Sebo X4 is best suited and designed for carpet and not hardwood floors. It does not have an option to turn off the brush roll for your wood floors. The Sebo Felix is an ideal option for your floors and will clean above the floor. Add the optional 9' extension hose and it makes stairs, walls, etc. easier. I own several models of both the Miele (C3, U1 upright) and Sebo (E3, D4, Felix) vacuums and found both brands have excellent quality and longevity. The Sebo models are designed for easier repair and have longer warranties. The consumables such as filters and bags are cheaper for the Sebo as well. But, my Miele C3 is my favorite for whole house cleaning. The parquet twister makes quick work of hard floors and goes easily under furniture and the handheld turbo tool (same Wessel Werk design for both Sebo and Miele brands) is excellent for your upholstery, pillows, carpeted stairs. Since you have a few low pile rugs, I don't think you require a power nozzle, it would be overkill. The new Miele Guard M1 or L1 series vacuums in the Cat and Dog versions will provide all the floor tools needed in your space. It's a lightweight, quiet, and very durable design. Add the new FiberTeQ AllFloor attachment and you're set!