Complete C3 HomeCare+ PowerLine - SGPE0

I agree with previous poster, offer $500 and highlight the vacuum's age. I paid $400 for a HomeCare E+ in similar condition and luckily it is has been an excellent used vacuum.

I have Corgis and they shed fur as a hobby. Sebo or Miele with a power nozzle, not the entry level suction only machines. The ideal pair is a Sebo E3 canister and Felix upright. The Felix is my daily, the E3 is my weekly deep cleaner. There are clearance deals on the Miele C3s right now; look for the Cat & Dog, Marin and even the HomeCare+ canisters. The Miele power nozzles handle deep pile better than Sebo, otherwise the vacuums are tied for performance.

I have both Miele and Sebo canisters. The Miele SEB power nozzles handle thicker pile carpet better than the Sebo. I have a thick pile area rug in the master bedroom and the Sebo can't handle it. The Meile wand will go flat for under furniture cleaning, the elbow is angled more than the Sebo, in practice it isn't a significant difference. The Miele expendables (bags/filters) cost a bit more than Sebo and maintenance for a Miele will cost more compared to Sebo. The Sebo's break down much easier, quicker than a Meile. Which would I choose? I prefer my Miele C3 over the Sebo E3, but for whole house cleaning the Sebo D4 with the 40' cord and 1.5 gallon bag is the clear winner.

Congratulations and look forward to your follow up review after a whole house cleaning. Miele did a poor job assessing the US market for the Guard series. We get the same handle and hose as the previous models; not the new handle with controls released in Europe. They discontinued the SEB 236 power nozzle (LED light, lower profile), and only two models with a power nozzle. None of the Cat and Dog models have a power nozzle! The new Fiber TeQ All Floor attachment looks promising though and will probably be added to my C3's arsenal of tools.

If you are future proofing your purchase, the D4 is ideal for the 3K+ home. In use, the D4 with its rotating hose is very manageable, not too different than a C3. Carrying the body alone upstairs is 15.9 pounds vs 12.5 for a C3. The Sebo wand and head is lighter than a C3 with a SEB 228 power nozzle.

The first things you'll notice about a modern vacuum is how quiet and compact they are compared to your Silver King. The Sebo D4 Onyx (or any Onyx version) opens the door to dealer-only extended warranty, pricing and accessory packages; 10 years motor/casing, parts and 7 year labor. Now that Miele rolled out their Guard series of vacuums, remaining stock of C3s are discounted. Standard warranty on a C3 is three years, but if there is a HomeCare edition (Red color), they are the Meile dealer-only line and warranted to 5 years. Only the entry level Miele's are Chinese, the majority are manufactured in Germany/Europe. The Guard Titanium is the current, dealer-only model from Miele. Both brands are BIFL, and the canisters are the GOAT for whole house cleaning (dusting, furniture, stairs, etc.). The D4 is designed for larger homes (40' cord, 1.5g bag). The Sebo E3 and Miele C3/Guard series are in the sweet spot for the average size home with a mix of bare floors and carpet. Models with a power nozzle will provide the most versatility to grow with your needs as you move from rentals to your final home. Get both brands and various models in your hands and test drive them in store. Black Friday is coming and these are always discounted this time of year.

Pick one of the Dyson's, ditch the Shark. EDIT: My go-to, very convenient vacuum is a Felix and I deep clean with either a Sebo D4 or Miele C3.

The Sebo X4 is best suited and designed for carpet and not hardwood floors. It does not have an option to turn off the brush roll for your wood floors. The Sebo Felix is an ideal option for your floors and will clean above the floor. Add the optional 9' extension hose and it makes stairs, walls, etc. easier. I own several models of both the Miele (C3, U1 upright) and Sebo (E3, D4, Felix) vacuums and found both brands have excellent quality and longevity. The Sebo models are designed for easier repair and have longer warranties. The consumables such as filters and bags are cheaper for the Sebo as well. But, my Miele C3 is my favorite for whole house cleaning. The parquet twister makes quick work of hard floors and goes easily under furniture and the handheld turbo tool (same Wessel Werk design for both Sebo and Miele brands) is excellent for your upholstery, pillows, carpeted stairs. Since you have a few low pile rugs, I don't think you require a power nozzle, it would be overkill. The new Miele Guard M1 or L1 series vacuums in the Cat and Dog versions will provide all the floor tools needed in your space. It's a lightweight, quiet, and very durable design. Add the new FiberTeQ AllFloor attachment and you're set!

Both Sebo E3 and Miele C3 canister vacuums are top tier. Both use the same handheld turbo brush attachment (made by Wessel Werk) that is excellent for dog beds, upholstery, stairs. The Miele C3’s are discounted now as the new Guard series is replacing them. A Miele white dog and cat model or Marin navy blue model are probably the best pet vacuums you can get.

No. The M1 Cat & Dog is a suction only machine, it does not come with a power nozzle. The attachment it includes is an air driven turbo and the package no longer includes the handheld mini turbo tool. We have bare floors and wool rugs on the main floor and use the C3 with the SEB 228 power nozzle. C3 models like the Kona, Cat & Dog, HomeCare, and Marin. The Miele Classic C1 is your entry-level option with a power nozzle and should be discounted still at your local dealer. We have two very active Corgis that bring in mud, leaves, fur, etc., especially now that we have rain and snow. I use the Bona flat mop with microfiber pad and hardwood floor cleaner. For quick cleanups, I grab the Bona mop handle and use the Bona pre-soaked pads for hard wood. I use the basic Bona pet system that includes the tool, dusting mop and micro fiber pad. They also make waterbased cleaning solutions for cleaners that are safer for pets.

Miele an Sebo are the premium canisters due to quality, warranty, and filtration. Of the two, Miele hoses are more flexible. I have both the Sebo E3 and D4, and both hoses are stiff and bulky due to their tapered design. I also have the Miele C3 and prefer it for dusting because Miele makes a larger, fully articulating brush (SUB 20) that works on the ceiling fans and bookshelves. For hard floor cleaning, the parquet twister is my go to, both Sebo and Meile have a version of this attachment. Based on your cleaning needs, a suction only machine will work well. Look at the Miele Classic C1 or Guard M1. Sebo comes in a close second place for portability. Look at the E1 or K2 Kombi and add the parquet twister. If you have a vacuum dealer, go there, the Black Friday discounts will be better and they will give you a package discount for any additional attachments, bags, etc.

Mieles are organized in 4 tiers: C1 Compact (entry level, smaller, for apartments & small homes), Guard M (replaces the previous C3, none of these have a power nozzle in the US Market), C3 (outgoing workhorse, find one this Black Friday, they are solid machines, the Kona, Cat & Dog, Marin, HomeCare E+ all have power nozzles), and the Guard L series. The black L models are suction only, the blue and titanium have power nozzles. The new Guard models that are labeled Cat & Dog do not have a power nozzle, instead they use an air driven turbo floor nozzle.

Ideally, you have a vacuum retailer near you so you can test drive these and get a good deal; Miele C3, these are being closed out and remaining stock is marked down. The Kona, Cat & Dog, Marin, and Homecare E+ are the C3s to look for. A Miele C1 Cat and Dog is also a solid choice. There are 2 brand new L1 Guard vacuums from Miele; the L1 (blue) and L1 Electro (titanium). All of these models but the Marin use the same SEB 228 power nozzle. The Marin gets a lower profile SEB 236 with an LED light. Only dealers can sell the Homecare and Electro models, these have 5 year warranty’s vs standard 3 year. Discounts for Black Friday are @20% for remaining C3s, at least 15% everything else. For Sebo, the E3 and K3 are excellent vacuums to also consider. German made like Miele, 10 year warranty’s if purchased from a dealer, and very reliable.

I bought a used Miele C3 home care plus ($1500+) with extra filters and bags for $350 on Facebook marketplace. I cleaned it up a bit and it works good as new, best vacuum I’ve ever had. Don’t listen to folks telling you not to buy used; actually good vacuums are insanely expensive and used is absolutely a viable option if you want to be a little more frugal. Obviously the only caveat is to be patient and wait for the right deal.

If you bought a Dyson outsize and want to buy another one in 5 years, go to a Miele dealer and buy the Miele c3 homecare+, get that machine serviced every 5 years and never look back. It's expensive but 100% worth it for the fingertip controls, the superior seb236 carpet brush, and the extra attachments and warranty as being sold as a homecare model from a dealer. Use only Miele bags, be gentle, and read the instructions and it may outlive you! As is their design, the fine dusts from your and your dogs hair/skin have clung to the cyclones and possibly the motor. It's also possible you've never cleaned your filters but I'll assume you have. Any cordless, with fastidious maintenance can last up to or around a decade, losing suction in the last half of life A bagged canister, like the Miele c3 or Sebo e3, will not lose suction to an appreciable degree in the course of 10 years, when using real Miele bags. More than 99% of the captured dirt is trapped in the bag, with the remainder being trapped in the HEPA exhaust filter. Being a canister form factor it's also incredibly convenient, reducing strain on your wrist, allowing you a telescopic wand and long hose everywhere you go with tools close at hand. The cord reel makes cords forgettable and the bags last 3-6 months (depending on your living/shedding sitch). Having truly adjustable suction means you can vacuum delicate stuff like curtains or chachkis. Mieles also are built better and feel better in hand than the Dysons. The click of Miele attachments is 🤤 An abused Miele can last a decade. A normal meile could last 20 years. A Miele with care will easily last 40. Put some effort and it can literally last forever. They're made to be opened, serviced, cleaned, and reassembled forever, unlike Dysons with clips and adhesives. The Sebo e3 will work mostly as good as the Miele and offers a little more value over the brilliant (a little) but I prefer Mieles hard and carpet tools. Mieles also feel better in hand. Ultimately, Mieles bags and HEPA filters are also cheaper for us in the US with the allergy bundle. If you're the one spending the money and doing the vacuuming, I say get the Porsche over the VW (is that offensive to the Sebo fans lol). So go to your local vacuum dealer and try out the Miele c3 homecare+ (brilliant) and the Sebo e3. I think once you get a real (corded, bagged) vacuum you'll recognize even the biggest baddest Dyson cordless is a toy, relatively.

TL;DR: go to a Miele dealer (use their website to find one) buy the C3 homecare+ for full home cleaning, demote the Dyson to quick jobs, never look back. If you have gen5 detect money (and interest) buy the vacuum that made Dyson increase their filtration standard: a Miele. I thought it was funny Dyson did this as it retroactively pulled the facade off of their previous marketing. For the best performance on hard floors you'll want a machine with their parquet twister attachment, it's what made me fall in love with Mieles in middle school. Currently it works like a dream for my kitty and her ways. (And that original one still works for my parents 17 years later). Technically Mieles cheapest machine, the c1 classic, functions just as well on hard floors when using the same tool as their most expensive machine, the c3 brilliant. They have the same motor, use the same bags, and have the same filter media, but the c3s are MUCH quieter, fully sealed, have bigger bag compartments, and store their tools onboard. The c2 models are a happy in between. They're fully sealed, are quieter but not as quiet as the c3, and also have the onboard tools. Contemporary c2s are made in China with German motors. They're just as well built as the German plastic machines. Technically they're better built because Miele innovated on the s5000 shell which became the c2. Having taken apart both, the c2s construction is more like a brilliant than the c1 classic. As of right now, only Mieles c3s are built completely in Germany. All their bagged models use German made motors but the remainder are formed in China. All the bagless models are completely made in China. No knock against Chinese manufacturing, it's excellent obviously, but that's the T with Mieles current production chain for vacuums. I like my first gen triflex even. Because your budget is $600 (medium-high) and you have carpets, that complicates my recommendation: If you're buying a machine you should buy the one that fully encapsulates your use and use it how you like. Don't purposefully buy something that does less when you can use more, and you can afford more. No matter what you buy it'll outlive and outperform the gen 5. A straight suction Miele might even marginally outperform it on your carpets... Then, you have the Dyson Gen 5 vs the v12/15 (which tells me you care about "the best", technology, and convenience physical constraints be damned) which points me to recommend you Mieles top of line canisters: the c3 electro models (Kona, Marin, Brilliant/ homecare, homecare e, homecare +). They come standard with the electro carpet brush and the parquet twister, as well as the HEPA filter. The Marin adds some longevity and QOL electronics like a filter life timer, parking shutoff switch, and auto suction as well as the seb236, Mieles low profile and led-lit carpet brush. The Brilliant, the one I think you should get, has what the Marin has plus fingertip controls & a display. This makes switching surfaces and tools on the fly so much easier. It also kinda obviates the parking switch. You should buy them from a vacuum store, miele dealer, to get the best deal and get the homecare models with the longer warranty and more tools. From a dealer, you can likely get the Kona for $850, Marin for $1100, and brilliant for $1500, but you might have a harder time finding that brilliant deal as it kinda pads the coffers. Like I said, the c1 classic and a parquet twister will get you the same clean, but it's time to demote the Dyson and get a real vacuum as your primary. The Dyson can be used for quick runs and it'll thank you for it (by living longer than 5). Your carpets will also likely thank you for it. Ik I blew past your budget, but it really seems like you can afford it so 🤷🏾‍♂️ Sebos have better warranties, and some like them better, but they're marginally louder, less powerful, and filter less well than a Miele. And when comparing to a c3, Mieles bags & filters are cheaper in their allergy bundle. Mieles also have a better feel in hand... Which is the whole point imo. You can likely try a Sebo wherever you go to buy that Miele homecare+ 😘 so make sure to try it out too. I think Mieles parquet twister and seb236 are better than sebos articulating floor tool or et1. But that's my opinion. The fully in price recommendation for hard floors would the c3 gala or the c2 hard floor. Marginally in budget but all inclusive machine would be the c1 centennial (if you can find it for $650 and buy the parquet twister). Another option, but a little stretch is the c1 homecare with electro brush (only available from Miele dealers). Even an abused Miele will last a decade. Get the nicest one you can afford, take care of it, and have a perfectly clean home for more than 20 years. No joke. Also, your Dyson is leaving stuff in the carpets that an electro Miele will capture. Your first bag will fill fast (as does everyone's unless they already had a Miele/Sebo).

I'd take the opportunity to get a Miele c3 Marin or Brilliant/homecare+ at a good price. It seems like they're dropping their (very nice imo) seb236 floor head. Or you'll need the new guard l1 electro. You'll need an electro head for your needs. (So c3 cat& dog to answer your title question, but my recommendation is for the Homecare+ (or the Marin for a better value). Visit a dealer and get them for a good price (900 for the Kona, 1100 for the Marin, and under 1500 for the homecare+/brilliant). Get the homecare models from a dealer if you can. The better warranty and added tools are great.

Sebo e3 (under 900 from a dealer if you ask nicely) comes with a 10 year warranty from said sealer. Their bags & filters are a little pricey but worth it for the excellent machine. I am however a Miele fan and I do think they command their higher price. Unfortunately Miele has lowered their warranties recently from 10 to 3 😭. I believe it's 5 for the homecare models purchased in store. Definitely go to a vacuum store and test drive the Sebo e3 vs the Miele C3 like of machines. At your price I say get the Marin (or homecare e) for the increased features. You can get it for around $1200 usually from a dealer. The c3 Kona is the cheaper model at under 900, but doesn't have a headlight, auto suction, or filter timer, but works just the same. If you're buying Miele, buy the homecare model. Either Miele or Sebo will last you more than 20 years with good care. They can be repaired from just about any damage. And they'll clean better than literally any other vacuum (certainly better than anything cordless or bagless). Mieles have marginally more suction, with a higher grade of filtration, and feel better in the hand. Sebos are a little more industrial. Both are amazing but I think the Miele is just a bit better. Better enough I'd say splurge for the brilliant/homecare+ ($1500-1800) but you have to try it first. I bought my Miele used, and it's the best $300 I've spent. It's a little crunchier than my parents older miele which we bought new, but mine is a UniQ ($1500 MSRP). Those fingertip controls are SOOOOO nice 😭 There's nothing cuntier than a Miele homecare+ when it comes to cleaning 🤷🏾‍♂️ Unsaid but needs to be said: bagged canisters are the ONLY option when versatility and longevity are the goals. Edit: forgot that Mieles new guard L1 electro will be releasing soon. Basically all the same but it has an app now to tell you to change the bag. And it's a new bag, so you can be damn sure it won't be bundled cheaply with the filter. Same filter. Also no headlight on the carpet brush. Tbh I'd say use the impending release of the L1 to snatch up a deal on the miele C3 Marin (homecare e) or Brilliant (homecare+).

Dyson's done good work innovating tiny powerful motors and battery density but considering the competition has caught up, right now their price is a brand image thing. LG and Miele make better cordless vacuums at a similar price point (they're more easily repairable and maintainable) Overall cordlesses aren't made for daily use, especially with more than one person or a pet. There's way too much dust and you can expect around 3 good years from any model. Barely anyone empties bagless machines when they hit the full line, allowing more dust to transit the motor killing it faster. With a bagless, cordless(small) and an animal, esp if one or both of you have long hair or a lot of body hair, you may need to empty that bin halfway per room. If you're willing to drop $400 on a vacuum and looking for quality (and want to buy new) get a bagged, corded canister. Even a mediocre one can last 20 years. The best last for longer especially when maintained. The bags fill every 4ish months, and if you swap your filters every set of bags (usually every year or two) you won't have cat or vacuum smell accumulating. The cords are usually on self-winding reels, and because the motor is in a pod that follows you, there's very little weight on the wrist. Canister also have long hoses and telescoping wands, by design, making cleaning surfaces easier (corners, vents, baseboards, windows, AC units, etc). The nicer/nicest canisters are quieter, more powerful, and filter better than literally any cordless on the market (checkout rtings.com for head to heads, if you'd like). Most cordless vacuums have electrically driven brushes which are good for carpet, but a little dismal for floors. They'll scratch the most delicate floors with their wheels and they'll bulldoze clumps and particles. Best case scenario is you have to hear the droning of the brush and the wheels as you cover every sqft with that 8" head. All canisters are designed for hard floors, the best having articulating tools, without moving parts that can suck up clumps and particles without clogging and allow you to sweep over your floors (like how the Dyson omniglide advertises it can emulate). Cordlesses are meant to be for quick/urgent cleans, however home cleaning is largely regular/preventative. Having a cat myself, I've found the "fantasy" to be a robot vacuum with a real vacuum (for maintenance and deeper cleans). I do own a cordless but I rarely use it (it's a Miele triflex, 1st gen). I have a Miele c3 (S8) canister and a dreame l10s ultra robotthe robot sweeps 3 times a day, mops the cat area daily, and mops the whole place twice a week. I swap its water weekly and swap its bag every 5~ months. I swap my Miele canister bag every 6~ months, but I sometimes clean for my friends and family so that's including their dirt. The business end of my robot certainly gets dirty as it sucks/licks my floors clean daily and I have an elderly cat, but my least favorite part of vacuum maintenance is still cleaning my triflex's pre filter. It's such fine dust and gets everywhere; having a bigger vacuum is necessary for this. A couple with a cat in a one bedroom (also my situation) would probably fill a Miele bag every 6-9 months, thus requiring new bags & filters every 2-3 years. My vacuum's filter timer corroborates this rough estimate. So if you're hard on that $400 price point, and require buying new you're in a bit of a bind for attaining the fantasy, but that's okay! The best place to start is with a bagged, corded canister, then you can wait some time and get a robot later. Then you'll have both and both will have longer lifespans as they care for each other (I'm serious lol). The easiest way to stay in budget is buying this "real" vacuum used. Depending where you are, you can get a $1500 vacuum for <$300 with some patience and hunting. Buying new: go to a vacuum store (with your partner ofc) with Sebo and Miele and try them out. The quality is palpable. At your price point, you can afford the Sebo k2 kombi or Sebo e1(better) or the Miele C1 (hopefully you can get a deal on their homecare model). I prefer Miele because they're quieter, more powerful, and filter better, but they're more expensive and Sebo recently has demonstrated they're more serious about vacuums than Miele is. Miele hasn't changed their builds or practices but no longer offer the 10yr or 7yr warranties like they used to (Sebo still does). Mieles made-in-China machines (the cheaper c1 and c2 machines) still have the German motors and the build is excellent as expected (let's be real, China is the leader rn in quality manufacturing too). If you're buying Miele bags and the sfha50 (full size) filter, Miele bags & filters are cheaper(in the allergy bundle). If you're just using Mieles basic filter included with the bags, Mieles bags & filters are cheaper. If you need the Miele compact HEPA (sfha30), then the Miele bags & filters are more expensive than Sebo. Only buy the xiaomi family of robot vacuums (roborock, dreame, mova) as they're built excellently and are easily repairable. eBay has excellent refurb deals on dreame & roborock, just be patient. And they include warranties! Skip buying new garbage cyclically: get something that lasts once, take care of it, and never have to buy it again 🤷🏾‍♂️ I bought my s8 UniQ (retailed for $1500) from a cleaning company for $300, serviced it myself, and it runs beautifully; now it's a teenager! My parents vacuum is old enough to vote and it runs quieter than mine. Mine certainly shows battle scars but these machines are made to last and made to be taken care of. When you think of a vacuum like a major appliance, the price tag is easily to swallow. They are major and can last longer than many other things. If you have the scratch, and you're gonna be vacuuming justifying $1800 on the Miele homecare+ (or $1100 on the Sebo e3 if you like that better) is a no brainer. Only issue there is making sure your relationship lasts longer than the vacuum 😘🙏🏾💖 as I imagine custody battles over a Miele homecare+ can get ugly.

Long story short: no. Mostly because of cordless, as that mostly scuttles your requirement for asthma care. Most cordlesses are bagless, and one trip emptying that bin and it's game over for your bronchioles depending how bad the asthma is. There's basically only one bagged cordless (Henry quick, so check that out, but it doesn't stand) but it's not really meant for primary use. The Miele cordlesses (triflex), are great for what they are (bagless and cordless) and they stand up, have swappable batteries and work well. Their filtration/dust sequestration will always be worse than a bagged. I love my triflex but I also use it maybe once a month or less because of my corded, bagged Miele. I understand you don't want to compromise but what you describe is impossible with how our technology works rn, just like fusion, solid state batteries, or SC power lines, the technology is not there, and even worse than those technologies I listed, very few are working on what you want. You can get everything you want if you accept a cord or accept dirtier air with a bagless. If cost really isn't an issue then I'd say buy a corded bagged vacuum (not the shark rocket, it's generous to call that a real vacuum) and get a robot for daily maintenance. That's probably the best of both worlds as you don't have to compromise on clean or a cord, you just need two devices to meet your needs. If you've never used a cord reel I'd suggest trying it as well. My robot is absolutely the hardest working member of my household, so maybe a robot is what you're looking for? Good luck! But what you're looking for doesn't exist, unfortunately. And because I'm that girl: the only consumer vacuum in existence that's fully HEPA certified is the Miele c3 with their HEPA filter installed, so make of that what you will. That means not only is its filter hepa, but the machine is fully sealed and certified through testing to not allow more than 99.95% of particles smaller than 2.5 microns through. If you want the best clean available, especially noticeable to asthmatics, a Miele c3 is the only answer. Edit: my personal cleaning peeve is running wheeled things over hard floors, which is extra why im recommending the Miele c3. It's just so grating and demoralizing to hear those damn wheels every fkn pass. And no power/motor head will be as nimble as an articulated hard floor tool. If your space is hard floors, you actually have it a bit easier, as carpets make vacuums more expensive. And getting Miele or Sebos cheapest will still suit your needs. I know i said triflex comes close to what you want, but misses asthma care. I say get a bagged c3 and miss out on cordless but actually have a clean home with a machine that'll last a lifetime and work like new until the day it dies (which may be never with care). My skin is crawling thinking about running my triflex all over my hard floors.

Well if you want a quiet vacuum, (the quietest to be specific) your option is the Miele C3. The Miele c1 is marginally louder but still quieter than a Sebo. Both are quieter than any Dyson lmao (those things are crazy loud and they don't even tune their motors to offload the whine behind our scope of hearing). The Miele c3 on max is quieter than a Dyson on normal. So the cheapest option would be the Miele c1 classic pure suction. The nicest option would be the c3 gala edition. Both are hard floor only machines, but the build quality of the c3 really speaks for itself. If you're iffy about spending so much on a Miele, try visit a local vacuum store with mieles. They'll be happy to let you try them out and Miele dealers will always sell lower than online listed MSRP. You'll also hear firsthand how much quieter they are. Technically speaking, all bagless machines will be pretty loud bc they don't have much soft padding to capture the sounds (bag, nice filter). Cordless machines overall are very loud because their motors are smaller, spinning at a higher speed to generate similar pressure, and those tiny whirring things make a huge high pitched sound, characteristic of any Dyson machine (vacuum, hairdryer, hand dryer). Combine a cordless bagless and you have the absolute worst care scenario for sound dampening. Mieles recently upped their motor rpm while reducing size, but they tune their motors such that the majority of the sound falls above the frequency of our hearing. My cat doesn't seem to hate my Miele so clearly it's not that loud ultrasonic either. Checkout rtings.com for objective measurements but lemme tell you: we've been a Miele family for about 2 decades now. I bought my mom a Dyson v11 thinking it'll be great for the kitchen but she hates it! It's loud, clunky, weak (relatively: it cant rice grains from the corners) and it needs SOOOOO much brush roll maintenance omfg. Huge waste of money tbh. It's still hung in the kitchen but I think they only use it for vacuuming the stairs now (with the electro tool). The Miele canister is obviously better for our cars too. Nowadays, I think the avg active home only needs a bagged corded vacuum, and a robot. There's very little place for cordlesses imo ESPECIALLY as EVs now have power outlets that allow the use of a normal vacuum.. (I have one and my partner still uses it more than I do, but we wouldn't be in need without one. I only bought it bc I found it for a steal not because I wanted a cordless).

Absolutely no question when you need above floor cleaning (and you do): get the canisters. You need to clean your fans, air vents, literally every horizontal surface and even every vertical surface, at least twice within 2 weeks to feel an appreciable change. Blinds, vents, mattresses, couches, cushions, molding, the backs of your TV. Literally everything needs to be vacuum dusted or washed and with the new vacuum I guarantee your place will feel like new. With regular weekly vacuuming it should be much noticeably better. You'll probably even notice a better improvement after dog groomings, as their hair will actually disappear for a little. Get the d4 for the bag size, but the e3 comes in much cuter colors and is easier to tote around. The bags are huge and the d4 especially packs it very densely. If your dogs don't particularly smell then your vacuum won't particularly smell. My Miele bag only smells when it's nearing 80% fill and I've been using it for the litter box. If I don't use it for the litter box, it quite literally doesn't smell at all. Somebody in the forum bought a d4 for their German shepherd foster home with like 6 dogs and they filled their d4 bags monthly. So you'll probably get a few months out of each, as Sebo plans for. I am a Miele fanboy as they're quieter, filter better, and feel better but the Sebo warranty is great. If you get a Miele however, the c3 Kona is the budget pick, with the Marin being a good value and the brilliant, a splurge (but fully worth it). Mieles pack their bags more densely than sebos so despite Mieles having a 1.25 gallon cap, compared to the d4 1.5 gallon, it's not much less (and the filtration is a tier above). No doubt about it, you need a canister to wrangle all the dog hair and dander that's inevitably settled in everything. Once you've done a few deep cleans, and do regular cleanings, your air will be noticeably lighter.

Sebo e3 (under 900 from a dealer if you ask nicely) comes with a 10 year warranty from said sealer. Their bags & filters are a little pricey but worth it for the excellent machine. I am however a Miele fan and I do think they command their higher price. Unfortunately Miele has lowered their warranties recently from 10 to 3 😭. I believe it's 5 for the homecare models purchased in store. Definitely go to a vacuum store and test drive the Sebo e3 vs the Miele C3 like of machines. At your price I say get the Marin (or homecare e) for the increased features. You can get it for around $1200 usually from a dealer. The c3 Kona is the cheaper model at under 900, but doesn't have a headlight, auto suction, or filter timer, but works just the same. If you're buying Miele, buy the homecare model. Either Miele or Sebo will last you more than 20 years with good care. They can be repaired from just about any damage. And they'll clean better than literally any other vacuum (certainly better than anything cordless or bagless). Mieles have marginally more suction, with a higher grade of filtration, and feel better in the hand. Sebos are a little more industrial. Both are amazing but I think the Miele is just a bit better. Better enough I'd say splurge for the brilliant/homecare+ ($1500-1800) but you have to try it first. I bought my Miele used, and it's the best $300 I've spent. It's a little crunchier than my parents older miele which we bought new, but mine is a UniQ ($1500 MSRP). Those fingertip controls are SOOOOO nice 😭 There's nothing cuntier than a Miele homecare+ when it comes to cleaning 🤷🏾‍♂️ Unsaid but needs to be said: bagged canisters are the ONLY option when versatility and longevity are the goals. Edit: forgot that Mieles new guard L1 electro will be releasing soon. Basically all the same but it has an app now to tell you to change the bag. And it's a new bag, so you can be damn sure it won't be bundled cheaply with the filter. Same filter. Also no headlight on the carpet brush. Tbh I'd say use the impending release of the L1 to snatch up a deal on the miele C3 Marin (homecare e) or Brilliant (homecare+).

I think what you’re looking for is a 2 vacuum solution. A cordless/bagless just isn’t up to the task of whole home cleaning. We’ve been oversold on their capabilities by large marketing budgets. Grab a Cordless/bagless stick for quick daily pickups: LG A9, Bissell airram or Miele triflex Then, get a corded and bagged machine for your weekly deep cleans. All of the corded models are bulletproof and should last you 20+ years. Which model largely depends on your budget and preference. Miele C3 Homecare, Sebo k3, E3 or Felix IMO I’d find a Miele/Sebo dealer locally and test drive the above.

You’ve done a good amount of legwork to get to this point. IMO go to your local Miele/Sebo dealer and test drive the C1 cat and dog, C3 home care, Sebo K3/E3/D4 to see which you prefer. From a repairability standpoint Sebo edges out Miele and they also have a longer warranty (I say this a Miele owner) but there really isn’t a wrong option between The two brands.

For carpeting the C3 multi surface will not cut it. That’s really only meant for a couple small, low pile area rugs. You will be disappointed in this machine on your carpet. You need an electric powerhead (the multi surface uses an air driven turbine head). The cheapest Miele or Sebo model with an electric powerhead (that works well on stairs) starts with the C1 Cat and Dog. Which is a great option for you. Although it’s slightly over the multi surface price point. And depending on your home size, you may find the cord to be short. The Next cheapest is the Sebo K3. You could do an upright Sebo dart, but stairs are going to be a challenge with that. It’s still doable with the turbo handheld attachment.

All 3 are excellent. You really can’t do wrong between the 3. Personally I’d place more weight on the price, warranty etc between the two brands. It’s splitting hairs (see what I did there?) but I’d rank them 236, et-1, 228 in the order of cleaning performance alone. Like I said, they’re all great I don’t think there is a “right” or wrong answer here. The removable brush is a huge plus for Sebo. But IMO the Miele cleans better. However the Miele’s are not user serviceable. Also know that while I think the 236 cleans the best (by a narrow margin) it does have this awkward belt placement where it leaves a path of uncleaned carpet about 3/4 off to the side. I use that as a guide on how much to overlap but some people find it annoying.

I have one for quick messes and love it. It’s the perfect pair to my C3 (thanks to performance reviews for the tip) I believe both those models have the powered attachment point. It’s when it’s called the S194 is when you need to do your due diligence. Worst case, as for a picture of the attachment point. It’s easy to see if it’s electrified or not.

Don’t overpay for a rainbow. You can get a Sebo d4 or Miele C3 for less than half. For allergies you want something corded **and bagged**. Find a local Miele/Sebo dealer and give those a try. Which exact model depends on your flooring.

I wouldn’t seriously consider a Dyson. You’re on the right track with Miele and Sebo with your budget you’ll have plenty of options. Canister vs upright is personal preference. Since you’re undecided I’d find a local Miele/Sebo dealer and take the following for a test drive to see which you prefer. (That said, I’m a total canister convert. They’re very light in the hand and great for above floor cleaning and stairs, but there is a learning curve for sure.) Sebo dart, Felix, K3, E3 Miele C1 Cat and Dog, C3 Kona or C3 Homecare All of these will require minimal maintenance. A bag change every time it’s full (usually every 3 months or so) and motor filters once a year. That’s IT. These are nothing like bagless machines which require cleaning/messing with every other vacuum session.

Check out r/vacuumcleaners As mentioned Miele and Sebo are top brands. You can safely ignore any shark or Dyson recs. They’re garbage. As is anything bagless.

Vacuum wars is a paid shark shill and not to be trusted. Hell Chris even appeared in a shark commercial. BIFL vacuums absolutely exist. They’re corded and bagged made by brands like Miele and Sebo.

*Cordless* Vacuums are disposable. **Corded and bagged** vacuums like a Miele or Sebo will last you 2 decades or longer. Ask r/vacuumcleaners

Miele, Sebo or Lindhaus. Check out r/vacuumcleaners

This is the answer! You can still get a Miele for only hard flooring.

Agree with J3ttf! The Miele is a worthy splurge!

Miele, Sebo, Henry, Lindhaus. Shark and Dyson are garbage. Check out r/vacuumcleaners

You want to ask r/vacuumcleaners. Miele or Sebo is the correct answer. Corded and bagged. Safely ignore any shark or Dyson recs. Find a local dealer and take a few Miele’s and sebos for a test drive. Specifically the Sebo dart if it’s mostly for carpet.

I own both, and would have a hard time deciding if I could only keep one. They both have excellent suction and work great, but there are (personal) plusses and minuses to each. If you can go to a vac store and see them demonstrated in person that would be the way to go. Good luck!

Odd, because their website claims in bold print that they are the west coast's largest AUTHORIZED Sebo dealer. They have been in business since the 1950's and have excellent customer service. I have purchased a Sebo and a Miele from them and have been very pleased. (They even sent me a t-shirt that says "Business has sucked for 75 years!!" My son wears it.)

You do you! This forum isn't here to sway you over to the dark side, it's here to inform. Some people want "clean and hygienic" more than convenience. My Miele C3 Homecare with power brush fits the bill for me. It has a sealed HEPA filter so the air that comes out is cleaner than the air that is sucked in (I don't need bulky air purifiers in every room of my house). The canister has very handy attachments that make THOROUGH cleaning of my spaces much easier...from ceiling, blinds, and under furniture. The disposable bags only have to be changed every few months and they seal off completely for disposal...so much cleaner. If you have animals and/ or allergies, a good sealed HEPA vacuum will be your best friend. And lastly, check back in 20 years and let us know how much you have paid for your vacuums/air purifiers during that time.

I’m curious about this “deodorizer “ that folks need with the SEBO vacuums. I have a big hairy dog and allergies. With my Miele C3 ( HyClean HEPA, no charcoal) I never notice any odors and have never noticed any stink…not even when changing the bag. Does this mean the Miele has better filtration?

I paid $150 for a used C3 Homecare with powered brushhead. I bought it locally so I could try it out in person. I have hardwood as well as area rugs AND I have a highly shedding Golden Retriever. After having a C3 WITHOUT powered brushhead for 20 years...I had no idea what I was missing. I wouldn't be without one again. The electrified wand and electrobrush will almost triple the cost of this vacuum.

My 30-year old middle-tier Miele still blows any Shark out of the water. Have had the C Total Home Care for 10, and it’s like new.