What kinda cost are you hoping to stay under? Obviously nobody wants to spend more than they have to, but helps when giving recommendations. The 4 Best vacuums in my opinion are Sebo E3 or D4 Premium, or Miele Guard L1 Electro or C3 PowerPlus (the model name in the US might be Brilliant) - these aren't cheap though, and they're not cheap for good reason - they clean and filter ridiculously well + are really well built.
Edit: Corded cleans better than cordless, and corded will generally last longer, sometimes much longer.
Find a C2 or C3 model with the SBB 300-3 floor brush. Nothing will clean floors better than that.
The newer version of the C2 is the Guard S1. The newer version of the C3 is the Guard M1.
The Guard L1 is an entirely new vacuum, and is meant to be a lighter version of the C3 / M1, but the L1 has a smaller bag.
Edit: they all filter really really well and are sealed systems, and if you add on the HA50 hepa filter (make sure it’s the genuine one from Miele as it’s H13 hepa) it’s top notch.
Edit 2: the compact C1 is a also good choice, just NOT the Classic C1 (also known as S2 which is the older version).
The D4 moves really well, but yes is a larger vacuum. I have a 525 squr foot apartment and own a D4 cause YOLO. The Miele vacs like the C2, C3, Guard S1, M1, L1 will overall be lighter and easier to use. The D4 is essentially a powerhouse vacuum. The mentioned miele's will have the same airflow but in a smaller package. Miele's new equivalent to the D4 is the L1 or M1 / C3 Series.
Edit: My recommendation would be the Miele if you're worried about the weight of the canister. The D4 is by no means bad that way, and I would 100% argue it's easier to use than some other brands like kenmore, etc, but the Miele's will be easier to use as far as the canister goes and may be more encouraging that way. Just make sure to get the RIGHT ATTACHMENTS!
For Miele, it’s would be a C3 series, or Guard L1 with an electric powerhead and good floor brush. Add the HA50 H13 Hepa filter if you want the best filtering vacuum in the world.
For Sebo, the K3 is under $1000, but the more powerful models are E3 or D4 premium with the ET-1 powerhead (best powerhead in the world). This time of year being that sales are more likely to start popping up, a Sebo dealer will happily give a deal on each model to get within or closer to your budget.
If you want uprights, Sebo X4 or Felix, or a top model riccar (riccar will have a bit more power, but I’d personally chose the X4 or Felix).
See if any vac shops have any used Miele or Sebos with a good straight air tool (you probably don't need a powerhead, but if they have one where the price is right, it could then be an option). They are some of the most serviceable vacuums out there, which is important cause everything breaks at some point, and its nice to be able to fix it. They are also sealed units.
You can add different tools later on to any of them, but powerheads can only be added to the electric hose models.
Best models to look for would be:
Miele Compact C1, C2, C3, or any guard series
Sebo E or D series
Their other models are still good, those are just the best.
After years of trying the best canister & cordless vacuums, I can assure you, no cordless vacuum can ever be as as great a cleaning machine as a great canister vacuum. But you do sacrifice portability & overall ease of use. They both have use cases. So now, we've the Miele Complete C3 Brilliant & the Dyson V15 Detect.
We've tried Dyson and Sharks but they're so hard on our carpets and rugs so we went with the Mieli Pro. It's a canister vac so whereas it does take up more space than upright and stick vacs, it's relatively maneuverable. What we like the most is that you can reach high up for vents, fixtures, ceilings and low/deep (under sofas, beds) with relative ease. You can also change the height of the beater brush for different length floors (hard vs low pile carpet vs high pile rug) and you can even turn the beater brush off if you have hand-woven or otherwise delicate rugs. You can even change the suction power depending on if you're doing floors or drapes or furniture.
Oh! And these things are made to be repaired. They use hard rubber parts that are standardized across the line so you don't have to just toss it out after 3-5 years.
Miele C1 Cat Dog will give you everything you need. (You can find them around $650ish right now) You may be able to score a C3 Kona/Marin for under $1k as there are sales. A canister is, somewhat an all in one solution. It can clean from wall to wall and floor to ceiling. No batteries to replace, built to last. I’d reach out to your local dealer to see if they can get you a deal!
OP didn’t mention the performance at all on their post. 🤣🥴 Glad you find your vacuum sexy and ergonomic. Meanwhile the rest of us Miele and Sebo owners will enjoy the actually clean floors and exhaust air being cleaner than what is sucked in.
All 3 are excellent. You really can’t do wrong between the 3. Personally I’d place more weight on the price, warranty etc between the two brands.
It’s splitting hairs (see what I did there?) but I’d rank them 236, et-1, 228 in the order of cleaning performance alone. Like I said, they’re all great I don’t think there is a “right” or wrong answer here.
The removable brush is a huge plus for Sebo. But IMO the Miele cleans better. However the Miele’s are not user serviceable. Also know that while I think the 236 cleans the best (by a narrow margin) it does have this awkward belt placement where it leaves a path of uncleaned carpet about 3/4 off to the side. I use that as a guide on how much to overlap but some people find it annoying.
I have one for quick messes and love it. It’s the perfect pair to my C3 (thanks to performance reviews for the tip)
I believe both those models have the powered attachment point. It’s when it’s called the S194 is when you need to do your due diligence.
Worst case, as for a picture of the attachment point. It’s easy to see if it’s electrified or not.
Don’t overpay for a rainbow. You can get a Sebo d4 or Miele C3 for less than half. For allergies you want something corded **and bagged**.
Find a local Miele/Sebo dealer and give those a try. Which exact model depends on your flooring.
I’d avoid any bagless stick vacuum. A canister style is very light in the hand because the motor glides along behind you on the floor.
Sebo K3, E3 or Miele C3 would be the best choices. Your local dealer probably has them on sale. If you don’t have a dealer there are deals to be had online and many users here own stores and will ship
It’s not a waste at all. It’s arguably the best vacuum on the market.
I use my Miele C3 canister 2-3 times a week. It’s less convenient than a stick, sure. But you can always grab a cheap stick for daily quick messes and use the D1 for weekly deep cleans.
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As mentioned Miele and Sebo are top brands. You can safely ignore any shark or Dyson recs. They’re garbage. As is anything bagless.
Vacuum wars is a paid shark shill and not to be trusted. Hell Chris even appeared in a shark commercial.
BIFL vacuums absolutely exist. They’re corded and bagged made by brands like Miele and Sebo.
You want to ask r/vacuumcleaners.
Miele or Sebo is the correct answer. Corded and bagged. Safely ignore any shark or Dyson recs.
Find a local dealer and take a few Miele’s and sebos for a test drive. Specifically the Sebo dart if it’s mostly for carpet.
S8s are super, super easy to repair. What broke?
The C3 is still available in some stores, even from Miele directly. I tried many other vacs and couldn’t find one that had the power and comfort and the S8/C3. The Guard L1 models are slightly less powerful, but still very good vacs.
Alternatively, the Sebo E3 is probably the closest thing. It doesn’t have as much power, and it isn’t available with HEPA-13 (or HEPA at all), nor is it as comfortable to use but they are very durable and well-engineered. People that don’t like them tend to not like them because of the hose, which is also a common complaint with the D4. Overall, the C3 is significantly more comfortable to use, more power, superior filtration, more aggressive carpet performance, more suitable for residential applications. If it is the motor in your S8 that died, the motors can be replaced in 2 - 5 mins. Very easy, not expensive. $130!USD is what I see that listed at.
Sebo has incredible customer service in my experience. Lenny, the corporate technician, had me ship him my Sebo X4 directly to him. He covered shipping, parts, and labor - even knowing I bought it on eBay. Granted the eBay seller was a retiring Sebo dealer who had one X4 left, in stock. Most companies would automatically disqualify it because it wasn’t purchased directly from the dealer itself. I told Lenny this, and he said as long as I could verify it was coming from the original dealer who purchased it from Sebo, that he would honor the warranty. He fixed it. $0 out of pocket except for the time, energy, gas, masking tape, etc I used packing it and taking it to the UPS store. Lenny had sent me a shipping label. I also appreciated that when I called, I spoke to someone I could hear (good reception), understand (linguistically), and made the experience very personal - not the typical over seas call center experience common in today’s world. It was impressive. I still prefer my Miele C3 as far as canister vacs are concerned, but Miele’s customer service line is hit and miss.
I've owned/ own both and prefer the Miele **C3** for a few reasons. It has more airflow, more suction, superior filtration (H13+) available, an aggressive beater bar (Sebo's is too gentle imo), and I find it significantly easier to use. It's also a very serviceable vac, very simple to take apart for tune-ups, repair, deep-cleaning, etc.
I found the Miele C3 to be a lot easier to disassemble than my E3 and D4. I can do it in 2 minutes flat with a drill.
I love the C3 models. They’re hard to beat. I wish more vacs were like them. It wish there was an upright version. Hopefully Miele will make one, at some point.
S8s are super, super easy to repair. What broke?
The C3 is still available in some stores, even from Miele directly. I tried many other vacs and couldn’t find one that had the power and comfort and the S8/C3. The Guard L1 models are slightly less powerful, but still very good vacs.
Alternatively, the Sebo E3 is probably the closest thing. It doesn’t have as much power, and it isn’t available with HEPA-13 (or HEPA at all), nor is it as comfortable to use but they are very durable and well-engineered. People that don’t like them tend to not like them because of the hose, which is also a common complaint with the D4. Overall, the C3 is significantly more comfortable to use, more power, superior filtration, more aggressive carpet performance, more suitable for residential applications. If it is the motor in your S8 that died, the motors can be replaced in 2 - 5 mins. Very easy, not expensive. $130!USD is what I see that listed at.
It’s also important to differentiate between types of HEPA. Miele’s HEPA is H13+ and almost H14. It’s very rare to find H13 in vacuum’s, as most are H11 if they even have HEPA. Rainbows also utilize H13, but aren’t the easiest bags to use if used frequently. I would definitely get a Miele Complete C3, Complete C3, Guard M1 or L1 AllFloors, one with the Parquet Twister floor-head. It significantly better than the AllTeq and FiberTeq heads, and you can get an extra-wide version of it. For rug(s), the TurboTeQ head is sufficient for low pile area rugs.
Miele Complete C3 canister, or a Sebo canister. Both are extremely well engineered. Sebo wands are more durable, but the Miele overlap has the most power, best filtration, and are known for lasting for 10 - 20 years (depending on use rate). It’s also a lot easier to use overall, lots of little things that add up. Sebo’s are commercial grade, more utilitarian, simpler, designed to be used for extended periods every day and still hold up for many, many years; but they come with some traded off drawbacks. I think the Miele canisters are the best choice for residential level cleaning (maybe twice per week for 20-30 mins each time), while the Sebo models are better for commercial level use - using it every day for 45 mins - 1+ hr). Canisters tend to be better for use floors, but both Sebo and Miele sell canisters that are exceptionally effective on carpet - rivaling premium uprights. Get the upgraded hardfloor tool with either brand you go with Sebo Premium Parquet or the Miele Parquet Twister floor head. The Miele version is a lot easier to whip around, but both are premium.
The lightest-weight upright vacs don’t do the best job, but canisters can be exceptionally effective and are the traditional choice for those that want an easy-to-push vac, have back problems, etc. They’re very handy. I used to hate using them but now they’re my preferred vac. They get under furniture, much easier to use attachments with, clean car out with, and they’re a lot better on hard floors. Miele and Sebo are the best canisters. Out of those, I recommend Miele for residential applications - specific models, though. C3 mainly, Guard L1 Electro. Either with the Parquet Twister floor head. The C3 is the best Miele, and has recently been discontinued so get one while you can. Sebo canisters are more utilitarian, simpler, slightly lower performance, but the wands are a little more durable. Still, I choose the Miele for its higher power, comfort features, and excellent filtration.
From a hose perspective, and the time required to use, upright vacs are annoying. They at first seem like they're the easiest, most powerful, fastest machines to use, but let me tell you, I have learned the truth. If you are like me and hate fighting the hose, hate having the upright fall on you, etc, you need to consider a canister, but not just any canister. THE most flexible, easiest-to-use vacuum from a hose-use perspective is any Miele canister with the Comfort-Grip handle. Why? I'll give you 4 reasons off the top of my head.
REASON 1:
Unlike most canisters, the Miele hose handle pivots left and right, AND rotates 360 degrees. Therefore, it does not tangle, and it does not pull on you or the vacuum nearly us much as other hoses do.
REASON 2:
The hose becomes very pliable over time. My Sebo hose (especially bad), Kirby, Rainbow, Hyla hoses have all been frustrating to use because they are (a) stiff, and (b) don't pivot (so they awkwardly pull on me and/or the machine and/or the floor tool).
REASON 3:
Additionally, with Miele's Parquet Twister hard floor tool, you can vacuum in much tighter, 90-degree angles than other vacs allow; and therefore you don't have to reposition yourself or the vacuum, or move furniture like you would with other machines.
REASON 4:
Ultimate cleaning performance and comfort is my end-game with vacs, and I haven't found a vacuum that beats my Miele C3 in that regard.
IS IT PERFECT?
Yes, and no. Does it have drawbacks? Sure, all vacuums do. It isn't ideal for commercial-level use, but that's okay. It was fine-tuned and engineered for residential household environments, oriented towards the most discerning, demanding customers. There are a couple of features I wish it had to make it even more of a pleasure to use, but my complaints are minor and have not affected my stance. It's the closest thing to a perfect vacuum that I can find, and Miele continues to refine them.
A bagged sealed system Miele HEPA is H13+ is the best filtering vacuum available. Ordinary vacuums use H10 or H11 HEPA, and are not fully sealed. Many “sealed system” vacuums are not actually sealed or don’t maintain their seals for long. It is exactly why I bought my C3. The Guard models are even more efficient than the C3, more like H13+.
I see the appeal of a stick. I have a V15. It’s about 3 yrs old. It’s primary role is for in-between cleans, small messes. Touch-ups. But, if I am going to vac our main living areas or the entire house, I can get the job done a lot faster with my Miele. If I am going to deep clean the carpet, I don’t pre-vac with my V15. I use my Kirby. If I am going to detail a vehicle, Miele. If I am going to use attachments for deep cleaning, Miele.
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