Miele - Guard S1

The assertion that they "got rid of the pre motor filter" is just...wrong though? The S1 and M1 use the same fabric type pre motor filter that has been used in the C series. The L1 has admittedly got rid of that in favour of a mesh, but it's wrong to say they've all lost the pre motor filter. Also it's only the L1 that has the display. If you don't like/want/need it, the M1 and S1 are available. The new bags fix the issue that was there with the C series of people not seating the bag properly when closing the bag compartment. And really why would anyone want to be using generic third party bags anyway when you've invested in a premium vacuum? I bought some once for my C2 compact and they were crap compared to the official Miele bags. Not saying that Miele are beyond criticism at all, but I think it's fair to actually be reasonable with ones criticism. This having been said when my C2 dies I'll be getting a Sebo because I would like a powered head.

The S1 and M1 have not moved to the mesh though. They are using the same/similar fabric that has been used on the C series for years.

I have a bagged Miele cylinder as my main vacuum and a cordless bagless stick as a daily run around/quick pick up machine. There's no way the bagless stick could ever serve as my main vacuum. The Miele serves as a regular vacuum, DIY clean up machine, duster etc...has served me well for 9 years now and just keeps going and going. I cannot imagine the cordless stick I have lasting anything like as long - it's already feeling rickety and creaky after less than a year and I take good care of it. If you can afford it - Bagged corded vacuum for your main vacuum, cordless stick for a secondary run around.

Da bei der Mama der alte Miele Staubsauger eingegangen ist, und ich umgezogen bin durfte ich mich in letzter Zeit ein paar Mal mit Staubsaugern beschäftigen. Akku Sauger klingt erstmal cool: Klein, leicht, kein Kabel, yay? Mutter bekam also einen Kärcher VC6 (\~350€). * Im Vergleich zu einem normalen Staubsauger ist die Leistung von den Akku Dingern wirklich mies. Der Turboknopf leert den Sauger in \~15 Minuten. * Da auch der Motor und Akku im Handteil untergebracht sind lastet viel Gewicht in der Hand. * Kostet deutlich mehr verglichen mit herkömmlichen Staubsaugern * Lebensdauer vom Akku wird sicher noch ein Thema * Nach 2 Jahren haben wir einen Miele Guard S1 (\~160€) nachgekauft. Mama ist wieder zufrieden. Ich selbst habe einen PHILIPS FC9332/09 PowerPro um \~80€ von Amazon und einen Dreame D10 plus (\~200€) roboter weil ich zu faul zum saugen bin. Bin mit beiden sehr zufrieden.

I can confirm that the new Guard S1 DOES have a premotor filter! The Guard S1 Electro also comes with a powered brush, which was a must-have for me.

I can confirm that the new Guard S1 DOES have a premotor filter! The Guard S1 Electro also comes with a powered brush, which was a must-have for me.

But… that is all they’ve done? They fixed the bag problem (prob could’ve got away with keeping the old bags backwards compatible but they’re still better). The S1 and M1 *are* polished up C2 and C3 models, with a new grille and two less suction settings on the dial. I wouldn’t touch the L1 personally but that’s because I don’t like the design, that’s all. What more could they have done?

All (bagged) Mieles are great quality. The Guard S1 is the compact model, and is a great cleaner.

Miele and sebo are both great and pretty similar, with differences in the power nozzles. Miele is not as user serviceable whereas the sebos et-1 brush is removable. The electric hoses can be a point of failure and the sebo if i remember right has replaceable components on the outside where as Mieles i believe have to replace the whole hose. As for bagged vs bagless, bagless machines are a little more work for the user as you need to maintain the filters and occasionally clean out the canister but are sometimes more convenient. Bagged machines are better if you have bad dust allergies and are generally lighter, because dust is bagged, filtration tends to be better and the canister is kept clean. You still have filters to change, but miele includes the basic ones with their bags which in my opinion are good for the average user. I personally got a miele at a really good price and have really enjoyed it so far. Since you have a lot of hardwood and low pile rugs, you could go for most miele models, theres the guard series, L1, etc. A model with the parquet XL head (16 in) will give a pretty big cleaning path for hard floors!

There's not a lot that differs between models. Since you have a lot of carpet the main feature you want is an electric power nozzle. Wheather its a c1, c3, or guard model that's the main feature. When comparing models, filter by the models that come with Seb 228 or seb 236 as they are best for carpets and are height adjustable. The c1 and c3 have cat and dog powerline models, several c3 models, and the new guard L1 electro and some s1 models. All will have a 1200 watt motor. I think most of the cat and dog ones and the new guard ones come with a HEPA filter and all will also come with a suction only head that works well on bare floors and low rugs. Edit, I think the classic c1 cat and dog would meet the requirements. You can buy them online, but if theres a local vacuum store you'd probably get better warranty or more options and accessories!

Yeah. I don't think there's another option that will markedly outperform that from a cleaning perspective. Any upgrades I'd do to your vacuum would be to get a dedicated hard floor tool. But that doesn't solve your convenience issue Unfortunately, cordless machines for daily pickups don't come cheap I'd look into corded electric brooms. The Sebo Felix (without the ET-1 powerhead) might fit your needs but not your budget. The out of production Miele S1 would suit it well. Or one of the Lindhaus electric brooms (like the Valzer)

Mieles are great. Just that it's a lot more convenient if you have a long cord when you're dealing with big homes Lindhaus doesn't have a big dealer network, and they're focused on the commercial market, which is probably why you haven't heard of them Make sure to get the HF6 with the powerhead

They should both last long. The Miele S1 Guard has the new bag dock which should prevent the bag from leaking in the compartment from misalignment. The S1 doesn't have any of the drawbacks of the Miele L1 like the downgraded pre-motor filter and the compromised combo tools. As long as you learn to re-seat the bag on the C1 I would say it is equal in cleaning to the S1 Guard so choose whichever has the better sale. Australia got a lot more motor options than the U.S. so also check which model is coming with bigger motor. We don't get the S1 Guard in the U.S. yet but I was surprised to learn the S1 Guard Junior has a 2 piece metal wand while the S1 Guard has a telescoping metal wand. So that may be a deciding feature for you. The suction only Mieles are great for hard floors. You can always add a turbo brush later if you get low pile carpets or rugs but turbos aren't good for high pile, plush, and shag carpets. I'm not familiar with Australian stores but I found this [Miele C3 Total Care](https://www.thegoodguys.com.au/miele-complete-c3-total-care-bagged-vacuum-bronze-pearl-12396520) $294 AUD at The Good Guys. It looks like an in-store only but I would buy it over the S1 Guard Junior. The C3 has the same bag re-seating issue but once you learn that the C3 has a longer cord, a tool storage compartment, and this model comes with the turbo floor brush and the mini turbo brush.

I mean they'll all do the job reliably for many many years, so it'll all come down to personal preference. I'll list a couple of criticisms: Miele guard S1: no on-board tool storage, just a clip to put on the hose or handle. Sebo K1: no cord retract button, pull to retract. Dusting brush attaches to the crevice tool instead of directly to the handle, extra step in using it. I'm not sure where the dusting brush stores or if it even comes with the cheaper variants. Sebo E1: doesn't have on-board storage for the dusting brush, just a clip to the handle. Not sure if it comes as standard with the cheaper variants. The cheaper variants of the Sebo K1 and E1 come with the older COMFORT PRO 8351GS floor tool, which is just too big to be usable in a domestic environment. The more expensive versions come with the better KOMBI 7260GS tool. Still heavy but very usable. Miele M1 is an updated version of the C3. I think the M1 has a longer cord. Both excellent, but heavy and loud machines. Sebo D4, just to big for a small flat.

Find a C2 or C3 model with the SBB 300-3 floor brush. Nothing will clean floors better than that. The newer version of the C2 is the Guard S1. The newer version of the C3 is the Guard M1. The Guard L1 is an entirely new vacuum, and is meant to be a lighter version of the C3 / M1, but the L1 has a smaller bag. Edit: they all filter really really well and are sealed systems, and if you add on the HA50 hepa filter (make sure it’s the genuine one from Miele as it’s H13 hepa) it’s top notch. Edit 2: the compact C1 is a also good choice, just NOT the Classic C1 (also known as S2 which is the older version).

The D4 moves really well, but yes is a larger vacuum. I have a 525 squr foot apartment and own a D4 cause YOLO. The Miele vacs like the C2, C3, Guard S1, M1, L1 will overall be lighter and easier to use. The D4 is essentially a powerhouse vacuum. The mentioned miele's will have the same airflow but in a smaller package. Miele's new equivalent to the D4 is the L1 or M1 / C3 Series. Edit: My recommendation would be the Miele if you're worried about the weight of the canister. The D4 is by no means bad that way, and I would 100% argue it's easier to use than some other brands like kenmore, etc, but the Miele's will be easier to use as far as the canister goes and may be more encouraging that way. Just make sure to get the RIGHT ATTACHMENTS!

Wenn Du soviel Geld in die Hand nimmst: Miele CX - Serie; hat mein Schwager, ist gut. Wobei ich immer noch ein Freund von Beutelsaugern bin, die Beutel bringen einen preislich nicht um (und sind anders als Tintenpatronen nicht gechipt, günstige Drittanbieter also möglich) und sind sauberer. Du kannst die heutigen Staubsauger dennoch nicht mit denen von früher™ vergleichen - die Technik heute ist zwar effizienter, aber an die 2200W - Dinger kommt sie dennoch nicht ran. Quelle: haben einen neuen 890W Miele und einen älteren mit 2200W - der nuckelt wesentlich schneller mit der XL-Parkettdüse (übrigens sehr zu empfehlen) über den Boden.