Be aware of Amazon miele. I bought one that doesn’t have a little motor on the carpet attachment. It does exactly what I want, but just be aware.
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I have a Miele C1 and a main coon cat with really long fur. It does wrap around the roller and I have to cut it off when Im done vacuuming. Overall I am happy with my choice, but the sebo has an easily removable roller that would sounds easier to clean. If possible , go to a shop and try some out.
Just went through this myself. I was told if the house is big, go with the C3, or if it's small go with C1. I went with the Cat and Dog model since it has the power head for carpet. The home care model comes with that too, plus the home care has 5 years of warranty instead of 1 with most other models. Hope that helps.
You would be fine with a C1. Either the cat and dog model or the home care model. Home care is most expensive but includes 5 years warranty instead of 1 year
If you have the money and return window, ditch the eureka and get the Miele C1 classic pure suction for under $350 (ideally from a vacuum store).
If you go to a vacuum store ask about the c1 homecare model. It'll have a better warranty and come with more tools.. and Mieles tools are quite nice.
The mite is way too loud for me to use comfortably for more than a minute even. The Miele is quieter, stronger, has more suction levels for delicate tasks, and filters amazingly (especially if you get the HEPA).
No contest. But what's that other 30%?
A Kenmore canister would easily fall under your budget and have a lot of the ergonomic features you need, like lightweight, cord reel, foot pedals, and fingertip controls.
Tbh any canister these days have foot pedals and cord rewinds.
I'm a Miele fan, but sebos are a better value. If you can get the Sebo k3 from a dealer (usually for under $700) that would be your best bet. You'd use your dominant hand to maneuver the floor head while using your non dominant to pull at the hose to reposition the canister as you go. If you don't have two hands at your disposal pulling the canister and working in sections while surrounding the canister also works. Bonus points if your place is the perfect size for the canister to use only one plug centrally.
These canisters tend to have less weight in hand than even stick models (other than the upright style stick models).
These canisters will also last 20 years, with each bag filling up every 3-9 months depending on if you have pets and how many people you have at home.
Bagless vacuums require deep cleaning and filter maintenance that will aggravate allergies with the aerosolization of fine dust. with bagged models, you simply toss and replace the bag every few months, and replace the filter every 4ish bags (which works out to 2-3 years for a smaller home/family). Sure it's a disposable, but they're made from recycled fibers already and it's a better prospect than buying a subpar machine every few years. It is also just more hygienic. And are the only option for folks with the worst allergies.
Sebos work excellently and have good filtration, however Mieles, with their HEPA filter do filter slightly better and function better and more quietly, however they are more expensive.
Any Miele with the parquet twister floor tool and seb217 would be right for you. I recommend buying it from a dealer as you can mix and match the floor heads.
From a dealer you can get the c3 Kona with the seb217 (instead of the 228 bc it's lighter) for under $850 on sale, and there are sales.
You might be able to get the c1 homecare model for cheaper, so ask about that. The cat & dog model is cheaper but you'll want the HEPA filter.
Also Miele bags & filters are cheaper than sebos, even if youre using Miele HEPA with the full size machines. Sebo parts are only sold by dealers and they're very expenny. The Miele allergy pack is 8 bags and a heap filter for $55 (~retail for the Miele HEPA or Sebo filters alone).
Other than that, I'd say lookout on the used marketplaces for good deals. I got my $1800 Miele for $300, so it's possible.
Good luck.
If you have the money and return window, ditch the eureka and get the Miele C1 classic pure suction for under $350 (ideally from a vacuum store).
If you go to a vacuum store ask about the c1 homecare model. It'll have a better warranty and come with more tools.. and Mieles tools are quite nice.
The mite is way too loud for me to use comfortably for more than a minute even. The Miele is quieter, stronger, has more suction levels for delicate tasks, and filters amazingly (especially if you get the HEPA).
No contest. But what's that other 30%?
Well if you want a quiet vacuum, (the quietest to be specific) your option is the Miele C3. The Miele c1 is marginally louder but still quieter than a Sebo.
Both are quieter than any Dyson lmao (those things are crazy loud and they don't even tune their motors to offload the whine behind our scope of hearing).
The Miele c3 on max is quieter than a Dyson on normal.
So the cheapest option would be the Miele c1 classic pure suction. The nicest option would be the c3 gala edition. Both are hard floor only machines, but the build quality of the c3 really speaks for itself.
If you're iffy about spending so much on a Miele, try visit a local vacuum store with mieles. They'll be happy to let you try them out and Miele dealers will always sell lower than online listed MSRP. You'll also hear firsthand how much quieter they are.
Technically speaking, all bagless machines will be pretty loud bc they don't have much soft padding to capture the sounds (bag, nice filter). Cordless machines overall are very loud because their motors are smaller, spinning at a higher speed to generate similar pressure, and those tiny whirring things make a huge high pitched sound, characteristic of any Dyson machine (vacuum, hairdryer, hand dryer).
Combine a cordless bagless and you have the absolute worst care scenario for sound dampening.
Mieles recently upped their motor rpm while reducing size, but they tune their motors such that the majority of the sound falls above the frequency of our hearing. My cat doesn't seem to hate my Miele so clearly it's not that loud ultrasonic either.
Checkout rtings.com for objective measurements but lemme tell you: we've been a Miele family for about 2 decades now. I bought my mom a Dyson v11 thinking it'll be great for the kitchen but she hates it! It's loud, clunky, weak (relatively: it cant rice grains from the corners) and it needs SOOOOO much brush roll maintenance omfg. Huge waste of money tbh. It's still hung in the kitchen but I think they only use it for vacuuming the stairs now (with the electro tool). The Miele canister is obviously better for our cars too.
Nowadays, I think the avg active home only needs a bagged corded vacuum, and a robot. There's very little place for cordlesses imo ESPECIALLY as EVs now have power outlets that allow the use of a normal vacuum..
(I have one and my partner still uses it more than I do, but we wouldn't be in need without one. I only bought it bc I found it for a steal not because I wanted a cordless).
Probably the Kenmore bagged canisters. 600 or elite for the ease of use and fingertip controls. Maybe the elite crossover?
They're not ultra well built and may only last your business about 5 years, but you have to be gentle on them.
Mieles and Sebos will last much longer but you need to spend a little more than 500 for something that's carpet capable. The sebo k3 is their cheapest option tho (from a dealer ofc).
The warranties don't apply ofc, but I think sebo might honor 1 year for commercial use? You should check that out.
I know many cleaning businesses in my area who use Mieles, from the classic C1 all the way up to the brilliant. It depends what you prefer and what your clients demand.
My sister has some carpets but her cleaning person only uses a suction Miele and my sister doesn't care (and the cleaning person does an excellent job).
The worst Miele/sebo outperforms most vacuums. Just make sure to buy large boxes of original bags for the bulk discount and to make them last.
With any new product, you're going to want to do a quick educational tour of the product with the folks who'll need to use it so they're getting the most out of it and aren't encumbered. And especially so they don't accidentally damage the machine.
Commercial machines exist as well, but may not be as convenient and maneuverable for cleaning homes.
Canisters are the only option imo for their versatility and reduced fatiguing.
TL;DR: go to a Miele dealer (use their website to find one) buy the C3 homecare+ for full home cleaning, demote the Dyson to quick jobs, never look back.
If you have gen5 detect money (and interest) buy the vacuum that made Dyson increase their filtration standard: a Miele. I thought it was funny Dyson did this as it retroactively pulled the facade off of their previous marketing.
For the best performance on hard floors you'll want a machine with their parquet twister attachment, it's what made me fall in love with Mieles in middle school. Currently it works like a dream for my kitty and her ways. (And that original one still works for my parents 17 years later).
Technically Mieles cheapest machine, the c1 classic, functions just as well on hard floors when using the same tool as their most expensive machine, the c3 brilliant.
They have the same motor, use the same bags, and have the same filter media, but the c3s are MUCH quieter, fully sealed, have bigger bag compartments, and store their tools onboard.
The c2 models are a happy in between. They're fully sealed, are quieter but not as quiet as the c3, and also have the onboard tools.
Contemporary c2s are made in China with German motors. They're just as well built as the German plastic machines. Technically they're better built because Miele innovated on the s5000 shell which became the c2. Having taken apart both, the c2s construction is more like a brilliant than the c1 classic.
As of right now, only Mieles c3s are built completely in Germany. All their bagged models use German made motors but the remainder are formed in China. All the bagless models are completely made in China. No knock against Chinese manufacturing, it's excellent obviously, but that's the T with Mieles current production chain for vacuums. I like my first gen triflex even.
Because your budget is $600 (medium-high) and you have carpets, that complicates my recommendation:
If you're buying a machine you should buy the one that fully encapsulates your use and use it how you like. Don't purposefully buy something that does less when you can use more, and you can afford more. No matter what you buy it'll outlive and outperform the gen 5. A straight suction Miele might even marginally outperform it on your carpets...
Then, you have the Dyson Gen 5 vs the v12/15 (which tells me you care about "the best", technology, and convenience physical constraints be damned) which points me to recommend you Mieles top of line canisters: the c3 electro models (Kona, Marin, Brilliant/ homecare, homecare e, homecare +). They come standard with the electro carpet brush and the parquet twister, as well as the HEPA filter.
The Marin adds some longevity and QOL electronics like a filter life timer, parking shutoff switch, and auto suction as well as the seb236, Mieles low profile and led-lit carpet brush.
The Brilliant, the one I think you should get, has what the Marin has plus fingertip controls & a display. This makes switching surfaces and tools on the fly so much easier. It also kinda obviates the parking switch.
You should buy them from a vacuum store, miele dealer, to get the best deal and get the homecare models with the longer warranty and more tools. From a dealer, you can likely get the Kona for $850, Marin for $1100, and brilliant for $1500, but you might have a harder time finding that brilliant deal as it kinda pads the coffers.
Like I said, the c1 classic and a parquet twister will get you the same clean, but it's time to demote the Dyson and get a real vacuum as your primary. The Dyson can be used for quick runs and it'll thank you for it (by living longer than 5). Your carpets will also likely thank you for it.
Ik I blew past your budget, but it really seems like you can afford it so 🤷🏾♂️
Sebos have better warranties, and some like them better, but they're marginally louder, less powerful, and filter less well than a Miele. And when comparing to a c3, Mieles bags & filters are cheaper in their allergy bundle. Mieles also have a better feel in hand... Which is the whole point imo. You can likely try a Sebo wherever you go to buy that Miele homecare+ 😘 so make sure to try it out too.
I think Mieles parquet twister and seb236 are better than sebos articulating floor tool or et1. But that's my opinion.
The fully in price recommendation for hard floors would the c3 gala or the c2 hard floor. Marginally in budget but all inclusive machine would be the c1 centennial (if you can find it for $650 and buy the parquet twister). Another option, but a little stretch is the c1 homecare with electro brush (only available from Miele dealers).
Even an abused Miele will last a decade. Get the nicest one you can afford, take care of it, and have a perfectly clean home for more than 20 years. No joke. Also, your Dyson is leaving stuff in the carpets that an electro Miele will capture. Your first bag will fill fast (as does everyone's unless they already had a Miele/Sebo).
I do actually have to corroborate this because I do see people complaining (which is their experience) but in my many warranty requests with shark, they were pretty easy to work with, a the most I did was a little video call with a representative but tbh thts kinds nice because it's a person who's talking to you and affirming you're about to receive xyz products in the mail for free and here are the links to using it installing them.
Sure the warranty is 4years maybe on their most premium vac (what's it today y'all?) and they will die eventually afterwards without parts. But hey the company is mostly upfront about their marketing first, wowing upfront performance and shorter life cycles (implicitly) and honor their contracts easily.
A shark apex was the first vacuum I bought myself as an adult. I grew up with a miele canister.
After a year ish I immediately bought a miele canister on marketplace and ofc it was much better for slightly cheaper (a miele UniQ!).
I cleaned up and gave that shark to my bestie's family who still use it (and know how to maintain it well).
I bought my brother and Apex for his housewarming (before I got my uniq) and it's a great vacuum for them too but they're not very meticulous users (and have a German shepherd) so it died in under 4 years.
As a vacuum nut who acquires new/user vacuums for fun for my loved ones, sharks best stuff does work better than 90% of the crap that's out there... But knowing what I know now after a decade+ of vacuum nuttery, things like a miele/Sebo noticeably and materially outperform a shark, no contest. The economics of shark ownership are really not there in my experience.... ESPECIALLY compared to a Kenmore...
Also being a canister vacuum nuts makes me resent shark a little. Though I got my cousin to buy the shark canister and it's great but they're also not meticulous users so I should've found them a miele 🤷🏾
Sharks aren't bad~ but they're always worse... So why not get the better performer (Germans) or the better value (Kenmore)?
This is also ignoring the consumerist plague that is the sharkninja company... Their products always mostly work but are also almost always mostly outlcassed by their peers.
Overall, it's a "why bother" from me. But get off the cross buddy, you're not a Dyson owner 😂
Yes they still do and it's been the same vaccums: corded bagged machines.
Even a corded bagged Bissell/Hoover can put in some work for a while with care.
A Kenmore bagged vacuum is better.
Miele and sebo are the best and can last 30 years with a bit of maintenance.
Never expect any bagless or battery powered vacuum to survive daily service with shedding animals.
I wouldn't bother with the Kenmore because of the excess of hair. Get a miele with the seb228 or 236, not the seb217 (the skinnier shaft makes wraps more common, like with the Sebo ET1).
What's your budget and timeline for the machine because I'm pretty gung ho about buying used and self servicing... But I recognize that's not for everyone and not everyone has a flexible budget.
The Kenmore will work for years with care and you can service them decently easily.
A miele will be a tank and feel better to use every moment you use it. The value of that price difference (let's say $400 vs $950 new) is up to you.
A used like new Kenmore 600 series canister for ~$250 is an excellent price point for getting something that works and it can't be forgotten because of how inexpensive it is.
The simple existence of a bag in a vacuum changes a lot of dynamics of how vacuums work. Ultimately they're cleaner and easier to maintain and allow the machine to live longer.
Bagless machines need to be emptied per room, and washed monthly to retain performance and live towards a decade.
Bagged machines need a bag swap every few months and s filter swap yearly (or less frequently for a smaller or less active home).
Having something "capture" the dust is better than having something to "hold" the dust, if that makes sense.
It's not even a competition and it's just the fluid dynamics of the machines. Bagless machines were invented as a compromise (and the technology has not panned out in the way James Dyson originally envisioned, a la the failure of their "Cinetic" cyclones).
And in that time bags have gotten better and cheaper to produce.
So today, there's really no use for a bagless machine as a primary vacuum for a home.
Miele c1 pure suction (for hard flooring with very few rugs and no carpet) or the Miele c1 turbo team (for if you have more rugs).
Both are less than $400 currently due to Black Friday sales.
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