SEBO - DART

With Sebo I’ll just say, if one wants an upright, spend the extra and get the Felix over the Dart. I got a dart and have spent more than the difference on the parts that come with the Felix. For the time the vacuum will last, the difference is worth it. 

I like to add, SEBO is another great option. One can be more available than the other depending on location. Big thing is bagged vacuums are just better. Everyone switching to bagless was just a straight downgrade. 

It’s one of those but once cry once things. A Miele or SEBO will last much longer and do a better job than a cheaper option.  It pays for itself in not having to replace it in a couple years. 

Sebo dart, without a doubt!

A few reasons: 1) Dyson is bagless. Bagless vacuums don’t have the suction, filtration or lifespan of a bagged vacuum. Plus they require constant cleaning and messing with filters etc. A bagged vacuum performs much better and only requires a bag change every ~3 months or so and filter changes annually. That’s it. 2) Take a look at r/dyson the company as a whole is currently in a nosedive. Customers are literally being extorted, lied to and ripped off. Customer service is non-existent 3) Dyson was never really that great. Maybe back with their first uprights they were decent. But they’ve always made lackluster, brittle machines (take a look around this sub, they don’t get much love) For your budget and flooring: Kenmore 600 series pop and go or Kenmore Elite if you prefer an upright. If you can stretch slightly a Sebo dart is an excellent BIFL-level option.

No, not any more at least. And they’re designed to be obsolete within a few years and purposely don’t sell parts. IMO avoid at all costs. A carpet vacuum like a Sebo dart runs about $550 and will last you a couple of decades.

Look to corded and bagged. They’re the gold standard. If you prefer an upright a Sebo dart or Felix is excellent. So is a Sebo K3 or E3 or Miele C1 cat and dog. All of these are at the top end of your budget and beyond. But if you want something that will last years and years (decade or two) these are well worth the price. IMO your best bet is to find a local Miele/Sebo dealer and take the above for a test drive before you buy.

By design bagged vacuums last longer and filter better. A bunch of screens and filters on bagless vacuums get clogged, kill airflow and cause the motor to stress and prematurely die. Also bagged vacuums lose very little suction over the life of the bag (3 months or so). You won’t go through nearly as many bags as you’d think. And ordering bags isn’t too bad of a hassle if a) you leave a post it on your last bag as a reminder to order more b) you have a local store c) set up reoccurring purchases to be auto-delivered. If you’re looking for longevity bagged is absolutely the way to go. Since an upright is preferred - A Sebo dart is ~$550 or so and will last you roughly 20 years with proper maintenance. The side carry handle is nice for going up stairs with and has a hose with dusting attachments as well. If you have a local Sebo dealer stop in and take it for a test drive!

Yes absolutely corded and bagged is the way to go. Sebo dart is a great option especially if being too rough is a concern as it has an optional “soft” brushroll you can swap out easily.

Check out Sebo. Their uprights are excellent.

Simplicity allergy, Kenmore elite upright, Sebo dart. If you can flex your budget the dart is an excellent option.

Honestly both of those are not great options. Take a look around the sub. Dyson and Shark are generally bad vacuums with flashy marketing and 0 longevity or cleaning ability. Sebo dart should be at the top of your list. See if you have a local Sebo dealer and take it for a test drive. Even with a high shedding dog you won’t go through bags nearly as quick as you might think. Bagged machines **compress** the fur. Where as bagless fluffs it up.

It should be $549 but worth every penny of the 10% overage. For your flooring I really wouldn’t recommend much else. It’s a BIFL workhorse that should last you 20+ years with proper care.

Definitely don’t get another Dyson. Check out a Sebo dart or Miele C1 cat and dog. Both are excellent. If you can stretch your budget, Sebo k3 or Felix

Does not exist. Regardless of what marketing departments try to sell us - What you’re looking for is 3 separate pieces of equipment. 1) Dry, corded and bagged primary vacuum for weekly deep clean: Miele C1 Cat and Dog, Miele C3 Homecare, Sebo K3, dart/felix, e3 2) Cordless/bagless stick for quick daily messes: LG A9 or Bissell airram 3) The gold standard for wet cleaning: A good old mop and bucket. The combo machines are a joke and will be in the trash within a year or two. Put the blinders on, ignore the marketing hype, go with what is tried and true.

Sebo dart for sure.

Definitely the Sebo dart then. It’s excellent and should last you 20+ years. Find a local Sebo dealer and take it for a test drive. It’s bagged. Which means almost 0 maintenance compared to shitty bagless vacs we all are used too. Empty the bag when it’s full every 2-3 months and replace the motor filters annually. Thats it.

Sebo dart without question.

Around your budget: Simplicity allergy However, if you can splurge a Sebo dart is excellent. The brushroll pops out on 2 seconds with no tools for easier hair removal.

Fwiw that vacuum will last you 20 years most likely. Yes it’s a lot upfront. But it’s worth it in the long run imo. I learned this the hard way after burning through 2 sharks and 2 Dysons over the course of ~6 years and well over $1k. Also “self cleaning” or “anti-tangle” is mostly marketing garbage. The simplicity is still a great unit for the price. See if you have a local dealer that sells simplicity. You can take it for a test drive first before buying.

If it’s very low pile carpeting **maybe** (think commercial carpeting). If it’s standard house plush carpeting, no it won’t cut it. ideally you would want an electric powerhead. You could do a simplicity allergy or Sebo dart if budget allows.

Agreed with the other commenter, a Sebo Dart is worth a splurge. Short of that, Kenmore elite or Simplicity allergy.

Absolutely. Dyson is junk. For not much more you could have a BIFL Sebo dart.

Sharks have definitely gone down hill. You’ll be lucky to get 5 years out of a new one. Think of it this way, a bagged will perform better and last longer than any bagless. Depending on the model you’ll only go through 3-5 bags per year. Thats a small price to pay for a vacuum that won’t end up in a landfill like a modern bagless. Imo if you can swing the extra ~$150 a Sebo dart would be excellent and last you many decades.

Dysons are disliked around here for a few reasons 1) Because they have had a monumental fall from grace, check out some horror stories on r/dyson. Literal extortion and stealing from their customer service team. Not to mention the quality of products has also taken a nosedive in the last ~3-5 years or so 2) Not specific to Dyson but cordless/bagless vacuums in general were never intended for whole home cleaning. Really just quick spot messes and pickups. 3) They’re not designed to last, in fact the opposite. Planned obsolescence plays a heavy hand in Dyson’s business model. When something breaks, the entire unit goes in the trash. They don’t support with parts anymore. 4) For what they are and how they perform, they just **cost too damn much**. Ideally you’ll want a corded and bagged primary vacuum for weekly deep cleans. Then a cordless/bagless stick for quick daily messes. I’d check out a Sebo dart or Miele C1 cat and dog for your primary vacuum. Both of these will last you around 20 years with proper care. Plus if something breaks you can actually fix it. I also think you’ll notice a big difference in allergies with a bagged machine. Emptying the Dyson re-releases millions of particles back into the air (if the gaskets aren’t already leaking). Keep your current Dyson for quick messes if it’s still usable.

If you prefer an upright - Sebo dart. If you’re open to a canister (ideal for your flooring imo) - Kenmore 600 series pop and go. Or Miele C1 cat and dog.

If you can bump your budget - a Sebo dart would be fantastic. Otherwise. Kenmore 600 series or Kenmore intuition BU4050. You want something corded **and bagged**

If you prefer an upright - Sebo dart. If you like a canister style - Kenmore 600 series or if you can stretch your budget a Sebo K3 or Miele C1 cat and dog.

For that budget grab a Sebo dart or Miele C1 Cat and Dog and don’t think twice. Both are excellent options it just depends on your form factor preference.

1 vacuum can definitely handle all flooring types. It’s going to be corded and bagged. Check out: Miele C1 cat and dog, Miele C3 Homecare, Sebo K3/E3/dart/felix IMO find a local Miele/Sebo dealer and take the above for a test drive. Depending on which model you pick, you’d have enough budget for a quick daily mess cordless vacuum and keep the corded vac for weekly deep cleans. That’s the best setup imo.

Check out r/vacuumcleaners As mentioned Miele and Sebo are top brands. You can safely ignore any shark or Dyson recs. They’re garbage. As is anything bagless.

Vacuum wars is a paid shark shill and not to be trusted. Hell Chris even appeared in a shark commercial. BIFL vacuums absolutely exist. They’re corded and bagged made by brands like Miele and Sebo.

The best do it all vacuum in that budget is a Sebo Dart.

For one that lasts and carpet focused - Sebo Dart

Probably not available through Lowe’s. But the Miele C1 Cat and Dog routinely goes on sale for around your top budget and checks all your boxes. That would be my pick for sure. If you prefer an upright, Sebo dart which is right on budget too. Keep the cordless stick for quick daily messes. Use the corded/bagged machine for weekly deep cleans.

Oh nice I didn’t know Lowe’s sold them. Yes that model. The bad reviews on lowes’ website have no text so I’ll assume they’re fake/not legit. Take a look around this sub, it’s an excellent machine. A lot of the negative reviews on Amazon for this model are complaining about the canister form factor, not the vacuums itself. For mostly hard floor a canister is ideal, but if you prefer an upright check out the Sebo’s.

Sebo D4, Miele C3 Homecare, Sebo E3, Sebo K3, Sebo Dart/felix No particular order. You’ll notice these are all corded and bagged which is the gold standard.

You’re in good company with the shark hate. They suck (poorly) Imo if you can swing the extra budget should grab a Sebo dart. It’s an exceptional vacuum.

Agreed with the other commenter. Skip bagless they are all junk. Sebo dart is my favorite it’s ~$550 or so and will last you 20 years or so. Well worth it.

If you have mostly hard flooring: Sebo k3 or e3. If your home is larger (over 4k sqft) D4 If you have mostly carpeting or if you just prefer an upright, Sebo dart or Felix Find your local Sebo dealer and take all of the above for a test drive to see which you prefer.

Once you get used to it, you’ll love a canister. The Sebo e3 is excellent if you can stretch your budget a little. If not, the Felix or dart are great choices for upright and if you buy from a dealer, you get a 10 year warranty. 

I just got Sebo Dart for my low pile wall to wall carpet and I’m happy with it. It’s a bit heavy if you try to lift it with one hand, so I just roll it around instead and lift with two hands if I have to. If my budget was higher, I would’ve gone for Sebo Felix, which is the premium version of Dart, it swivels and has suction adjustment. After the first pass I had a full brush roll of hair. Removed the brush roll, took the hair off, popped it back in, everything was seamless.

The Hepa exhaust filter is a Hepa filter placed after the motor. It’s the final filtration and it also catches carbon dust from the motor. Rarely a few vacuums have the Hepa filter before the motor and some only have a basic filter after the motor. All 3 I listed have a good exhaust filter/post motor filter. The Kenmore Elite is a good budget choice. There’s the Riccar R25S that’s a decent choice but they start at $499 and at that price the Sebo Dart $550 is a much better vacuum.

All Sebos have S-Class filters which are really good and nearly Hepa. The Sebo Dart and Felix do not have Hepa filters. There are a few Sebo models, such as the K3 and X7, that have optional Hepa filters.

Target, Walmart, Best Buy, and Home Depot usually don't have any quality vacuums in-store. I think it's well worth waiting a few days for a much better vacuum to be delivered. Around $300 I'd choose the [Kenmore BC3005/400 Series Canister](https://www.amazon.com/Kenmore-Friendly-Lightweight-Telescoping-Retractable/dp/B08M36B5JZ/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1LIN73WN60Q7U&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.8ewF-JMcxGUJ0_bJKD7ZQawRw6pGpO5OqeApeQnrzJVixousGI7XFMmJYWgqPSMdOfLQVxtKW8mvL7fqqWDuU0OxsMALT5P9LSR7Kj7TwLJ6y02PCX-1rOub2dkSuAFrWKxtyNqwBnMBkLHpNHeS74DFEgjiTjwmJtv6tLH5Z9cIKfVJcD6kkFBUVjukEGxJCgp01yAPyB3iAnMIc-p48IZiKIYck6Fy_2yxe3qOtt0.oaUnR4UjlFHOP9LBRtFDoHqx5BK8KC8OrxgAOOr-MgI&dib_tag=se&keywords=kenmore%2Bvacuum&qid=1739653359&sprefix=kenmore%2Bvacuum%2Caps%2C209&sr=8-4&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.5998aa40-ec6f-4947-a68f-cd087fee0848&th=1) $248 or the [Kenmore Elite Upright](https://www.amazon.com/Kenmore-Allergy-Friendly-Beltless-Upright/dp/B075DZY7FR/ref=sr_1_9?crid=1LIN73WN60Q7U&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.8ewF-JMcxGUJ0_bJKD7ZQawRw6pGpO5OqeApeQnrzJVixousGI7XFMmJYWgqPSMdOfLQVxtKW8mvL7fqqWDuU0OxsMALT5P9LSR7Kj7TwLJ6y02PCX-1rOub2dkSuAFrWKxtyNqwBnMBkLHpNHeS74DFEgjiTjwmJtv6tLH5Z9cIKfVJcD6kkFBUVjukEGxJCgp01yAPyB3iAnMIc-p48IZiKIYck6Fy_2yxe3qOtt0.oaUnR4UjlFHOP9LBRtFDoHqx5BK8KC8OrxgAOOr-MgI&dib_tag=se&keywords=kenmore%2Bvacuum&qid=1739653359&sprefix=kenmore%2Bvacuum%2Caps%2C209&sr=8-9&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.5998aa40-ec6f-4947-a68f-cd087fee0848&th=1) $279. Both have carpet height adjustment and brushroll shutoff so they can do both hard floors and carpets and rugs. The Kenmore BC3005 has a longer flexible hose and will have a very lightweight hard floor brush, but some people dislike how canisters move. The Kenmore Elite is a very good carpet cleaner and it's not too heavy to push, but it's very heavy to lift up. Kenmore makes affordable bagged vacuums that should last around 5+ years. If you want a BIFL vacuum I'd check out the [Sebo Dart](https://sebo.us/product/dart) MSRP $599 (usually on sale $549). The Sebo Dart is a very well built vacuum. It's powerful and quieter than the average vacuum. But it's top heavy and the hose is short.

What's your budget? For a mix of hard floors and carpet you'll want a vacuum with a spinning brushroll for the carpets and brushroll shutoff or a hard floor brush for the wood. Hepa bags are better filters and bagged vacuums last longer. Riccar R25 Standard $500 and Riccar R25 Deluxe $600 are uprights that can do carpet and hard floors and the hose is pretty long. Sebo Dart $550 and Sebo Felix $700 are really durable and long lasting upright vacuums. The Dart is capable the Felix adds swivel steering and the Premium Parquet Brush. Sebos come with a 10-year warranty from authorized dealers. Miele Classic C1 Cat & Dog $631 are a very high quality and quiet canister vacuum with a powerhead and hard floor brush. Zero G $679 is another very good canister vacuum that hovers on its own exhaust. It comes with a ton of accessories. Among these the Sebo Dart and Sebo Felix are very easy to use and the most durable and repairable. There are cheaper vacuums like the Kenmore 31140 Elite $250 and Kenmore 600 Series Canister $330 that are very capable on carpets. They're not as manueverable on hard floors and they won't last as long as any of the four above choices. Under $200 vacuums last 2-3 years. Cordless vacuums have batteries that wear out in a couple years even from expensive brands. What do you think?

Since you have mostly carpets it doesn't make sense to keep the Miele C1 Turbo which is for mostly hard floors and minimal rugs. If you want to be able to clean both carpets and hard floors the vacuum needs a powerhead for carpets and brushroll shutoff or a hard floor brush for hard floors. Low price option is the Kenmore 31140/Elite Upright $250. Strong suction, carpet height adjustment, and brushroll shutoff. Downsides are that it's heavy and you need a screwdriver to get to the brushroll to remove hair. Mid price option: Sebo Dart/Sebo Felix $549/$699. These are very durable upright vacuums with carpet height adjustment and brushroll shutoff. The Felix adds swivel steering on the carpet powerhead and a dedicated hard floor brush that also swivels. Downsides are a short hose and they're kinda top heavy. High price options: Sebo K3 $849 and Sebo E3 $1049. These are very durable canister vacuums with carpet powerheads and dedicated hard floor brushes. Canister vacuums have long flexible hoses that you don't have to stretch out like on an upright. Downsides are the higher price and some people don't like how they move. The Sebos are very durable, easy to repair, and their brushroll pops out without any tools for faster cleaning.

You are correct that Sharks break quickly and then they aren't repairable. Some people get lucky and their Sharks last a while but when those break they are still unrepairable. Bissell has a lot of bagless vacuums that aren't any better than Shark except Bisell sells replacement belts and brushrolls. Then Bissell has some bagged and commercial vacuums that are better but many don't have brushroll shutoff until you get to some of the more expensive ones. For carpet and tile you want a spinning brushrol with the ability to turn it off. The Simplicity Allergy Upright S20EZM $250-280 comes to mind, it will be good on carpets but the brushroll doesn't shutoff so it's isn't the best for hard floors. The Kenmore Elite Upright $250-300 is a powerful upright for carpets with brushroll shutoff for hard floors, but it's a heavier vacuum. The Lavex 15" Dual Motor Upright $269 is a ProTeam ProForce XP1500 clone. The Lavex is a commercial upright vacuum with a carpet powerhead and brushroll shutoff for hard floors. The long cord is nice but a 50 ft. cord can get heavy. It's a pigtail connection so you could swap a shorter 30 ft. extension cord on it to lighten the vacuum. I hear they don't last as long as a ProTeam but it's also half the cost. The Prolux 9000 Upright $324 is a little over but also a tempting option. It's a durable upright with brushroll shutoff. Nothing really ground breaking. Ideally I'd want a Sebo Dart $549 but they are more expensive. They're a great option if you want the longest lasting, easy to repair, and popout brushroll for easy hair removal. What do you think?

No problem, there’s a lot of confusing Miele names. The C3 Excellence is good for hard floors and regular carpets/rugs but it has a smaller powerhead that can get clogged up by long hair. It also doesn’t have carpet height adjustment so it’s not good for high pile or plush carpets. It is wired so you can add a different carpet powerhead. For the same price you can get a Sebo Felix if you prefer an upright vacuum.

I've learned that I prefer to buy a quality tool as soon as I can afford it so I can enjoy using it longer. Definitely get a replacement battery for your Dyson because a cordless vacuum is still very convenient. I'm a bit hesitant to recommend the Miele C3 Excellence because with its included powerhead, it won't do as well on higher pile rugs/carpets, and it isn't good with long hair. Miele has discontinuing the C1 and C3 Series and has replaced them with the Guard S1, M1, & L1 and the prices have increased. Parts for the C3 Series should be easily available for many years to come. If you are used to an upright check out the Sebo Felix Dart and Sebo Felix Premium $549/699 CAD. They have a wider carpet powerhead than the C3 Excellence and they have carpet height adjustment. They both can clean carpets and hard floors. The Felix Premium adds swivel steering and comes with an additional dedicated hard floor brush. They are kinda top heavy and have a short built-in hose. If you want a canister vacuum with more floor flexibility than the C3 Excellence, check out the Sebo K3 Premium $899 and Sebo E3 Premium $999. They have the same full-size powerhead as the Sebo Felix. They are more expensive than the Felix because of the extra parts required. If you can find a Sebo Dealer, try all of these vacuums in person.

I love Sebo vacuums, they're very durable and then super easy to repair when needed. Sebo doesn't own Karcher but they do make all of their commercial carpet vacuums. As much as I like the longer cords on the Karcher versions none of their upright vacuums have brushroll shutoff so they aren't good for hard floors. So I think you should look at the Sebo Dart. It's a great upright vacuum like your Sebo Felix but without swivel steering and suction control. The Dart will be able to do carpets, it has carpet height adjustment, and brushroll shutoff for the hard floors. The hose and 2 tools will be nice too for getting into crevices when needed. If you wanted one of the Karcher uprights I really like the [Sensor S12](https://www.kaercher.com/us/commercial/vacuum-cleaners/upright/sensor-r-s12-10126150.html) and [Sensor S2 12 Hepa](https://www.kaercher.com/us/commercial/vacuum-cleaners/upright/sensor-r-s2-12-hepa-120v-10120700.html). Both are great for carpets and very durable but both lack brushroll shutoff so I would not use them on any hard floors. I wouldn't want your company to be accused of scratching anyone's hard floors. That means you either need to carry an extension wand and hard floor brush to hook up to the uprights or a separate canister vacuum. My choice would be to have a Karcher Sensor S12 and a Henry 160. It is 2 vacuums but having a separate canister vacuum gives you a much longer hose than any upright for all of the above floor cleaning. I can see going for a Sebo Dart for the simplicity of using just 1 machine.

The Sebo Dart is a great vacuum for carpets and the brushroll is removable without any tools to make removing hair wrap easier and faster. The suction is very strong and it's quieter than the average vacuum, but not as quiet as the best canisters. Just about any corded vacuum will clean carpets better than a cordless vacuum. The downsides of the Dart & Felix are they are top heavy, they have a short hose, and they don't include an extension wand. Alternatives all have tradeoffs. The Kenmore Elite upright is much cheaper usually around $250-300, it has great suction and carpet cleaning, but it's heavy and you need a screwdriver to remove the brushroll. The Kenmore isn't as well-built, and it won't last as long. The Riccar R25 and R27 are good upright vacuums too, the R25 Standard and R25 Deluxe can be $449 & $499. The Riccar R25 has a long hose and good suction, but it isn't as well-built or as easy to maintain as a Sebo Dart. I think the Sebo Dart is the best balance of durability with a few tradeoffs of a few less features.

I bagged vacuum is definitely the way to go for pet allergies! I made the switch about three months ago and I can really tell the difference in my home.  I have heard that the Sebo upright models are the best for pet hair, but I personally didn’t have $1000+ for a vacuum. I ended up using this [comparison list of vacuums](https://www.reddit.com/user/lacking_foyer48/comments/1lj76h3/vacuum_cleaners_compared_comprehensive_datasheet/) that another Reddit user posted, and I bought a Sebo Dart instead (for about half the price!) I’ve been really happy so far. 

Look for a dealer to look at a Sebo Dart and get a bagged vacuum for the fur and deep clean of the carpets. Plus it comes with a 10 year warranty when bought through a local dealer

The warranty is also transferable if needed

I would try to find a Sebo dealer and see if they will give you a deal on the Sebo Dart!

It fits all your recs

I would say Sebo is your best option. For uprights Felix or for canisters I would look at the E3 or D4. The D4 gives you the longest cord and biggest bag but if you can go to a shop and try them all out before purchasing so that you know you love it!

I would look into the Sebo Dart it might be a little over budget but will last forever and has a 10 year warranty when bought from the local dealer

The sebo will be more durable with the quality of the housing and parts for sure!

Go for a Sebo Felix or Dart then. They're awesome uprights. 

My recomendations would be to get a compact bagged canister vacuums. they are very light weight, easy to use and have far better suction than any of the stick vacuums. If you really want something similar to a stick vacuum, get a sebo dart, or sebo felix, or miele upright. U wont miss with both of these brands.

Sebo Dart would be high on my list. The feature list is trimmed down from the SEBO Felix. It has on/off versus variable speed control, the handle height is not adjustable and the power head does not twist/flex left and right. The cord is 30' and the brush roll can easily be removed and washed. The power head works well on bare floors and you can add the premium parquet. Commercial variants are available from Karcher and Windsor. Sebos are designed to be repaired and come with good warranty.