SEBO - DART 4

Sebo dart a little over budget but bullet proof and powerfull

I’m the SEBO all the models they make you push a button in the brush roll will pop out, and of course, a plug-in is going to be twice as powerful as any cordless, and the fact it takes a bag makes for easy dirt disposal, and a lot cleaner air

Sebo is most of my business so that!

Of course she will get conflicting views here. SEBO if you have the money as well worth it if not, go with the Kenny.

Or the only other quality Vacuum is the SEBO you can tell them that you want one of those instead

As a small vacuum business myself, I would be happy to switch it out for you, if you feel better, call them ahead of time. Tell him what happened and you decide to go with the SEBO

They are having issues with their new SEB O and they are upset, these things are very rare, but they do happen

Windsor/Sebo as good as it gets, what is breaking?

Sebo Dart would be high on my list. The feature list is trimmed down from the SEBO Felix. It has on/off versus variable speed control, the handle height is not adjustable and the power head does not twist/flex left and right. The cord is 30' and the brush roll can easily be removed and washed. The power head works well on bare floors and you can add the premium parquet. Commercial variants are available from Karcher and Windsor. Sebos are designed to be repaired and come with good warranty.

If you have a meaningful amount of carpet and it’s anything higher than a low-medium pile you’re gonna need to spend a bit more to get a “long term” vacuum. Look into the Sebo E3/K3. You more than likely need something with an electric powerhead. If your carpet is extremely low pile you can get away with an E2/K2 with a turbo brush. If your budget was 300 I doubt you’re willing to more than double that, so my advice is to look into the Kenmore Intuition or Kenmore Pop & Go. They should last you at least 3-4 years, hopefully more if you take care of them.

In that case look into the Sebo Dart. It’s a more traditional upright and is great for carpet. It also has a brushroll shutoff for your hardwood floors. A little more expensive than your budget, but not as expensive as the E3. It will also last you a long long long time. The justification I make to myself is, if I spend 200+ on a vacuum every 2-3 years, that adds up over a 10-15 year period. If I spend 5 or 6 hundred once on a Felix, I very well may never need to spend money on a new machine again (with proper care and maintenance)

You’ll save money. If you buy a Dyson or Shark you’ll have to spend another 200 or 300 bucks in a few years. If you buy a Sebo, you will be set for 10 to 20 years.

If you’re spending 800 on a Dyson just spend that on a Sebo or Miele and you’re good for 10+ years lol

Sebo dart, without a doubt!

Yes absolutely corded and bagged is the way to go. Sebo dart is a great option especially if being too rough is a concern as it has an optional “soft” brushroll you can swap out easily.

Simplicity allergy, Kenmore elite upright, Sebo dart. If you can flex your budget the dart is an excellent option.

Honestly both of those are not great options. Take a look around the sub. Dyson and Shark are generally bad vacuums with flashy marketing and 0 longevity or cleaning ability. Sebo dart should be at the top of your list. See if you have a local Sebo dealer and take it for a test drive. Even with a high shedding dog you won’t go through bags nearly as quick as you might think. Bagged machines **compress** the fur. Where as bagless fluffs it up.

It should be $549 but worth every penny of the 10% overage. For your flooring I really wouldn’t recommend much else. It’s a BIFL workhorse that should last you 20+ years with proper care.

Definitely don’t get another Dyson. Check out a Sebo dart or Miele C1 cat and dog. Both are excellent. If you can stretch your budget, Sebo k3 or Felix

Sebo dart for sure.

Definitely the Sebo dart then. It’s excellent and should last you 20+ years. Find a local Sebo dealer and take it for a test drive. It’s bagged. Which means almost 0 maintenance compared to shitty bagless vacs we all are used too. Empty the bag when it’s full every 2-3 months and replace the motor filters annually. Thats it.

Sebo dart without question.

Around your budget: Simplicity allergy However, if you can splurge a Sebo dart is excellent. The brushroll pops out on 2 seconds with no tools for easier hair removal.

Fwiw that vacuum will last you 20 years most likely. Yes it’s a lot upfront. But it’s worth it in the long run imo. I learned this the hard way after burning through 2 sharks and 2 Dysons over the course of ~6 years and well over $1k. Also “self cleaning” or “anti-tangle” is mostly marketing garbage. The simplicity is still a great unit for the price. See if you have a local dealer that sells simplicity. You can take it for a test drive first before buying.

If it’s very low pile carpeting **maybe** (think commercial carpeting). If it’s standard house plush carpeting, no it won’t cut it. ideally you would want an electric powerhead. You could do a simplicity allergy or Sebo dart if budget allows.

Agreed with the other commenter, a Sebo Dart is worth a splurge. Short of that, Kenmore elite or Simplicity allergy.

Sharks have definitely gone down hill. You’ll be lucky to get 5 years out of a new one. Think of it this way, a bagged will perform better and last longer than any bagless. Depending on the model you’ll only go through 3-5 bags per year. Thats a small price to pay for a vacuum that won’t end up in a landfill like a modern bagless. Imo if you can swing the extra ~$150 a Sebo dart would be excellent and last you many decades.

Dysons are disliked around here for a few reasons 1) Because they have had a monumental fall from grace, check out some horror stories on r/dyson. Literal extortion and stealing from their customer service team. Not to mention the quality of products has also taken a nosedive in the last ~3-5 years or so 2) Not specific to Dyson but cordless/bagless vacuums in general were never intended for whole home cleaning. Really just quick spot messes and pickups. 3) They’re not designed to last, in fact the opposite. Planned obsolescence plays a heavy hand in Dyson’s business model. When something breaks, the entire unit goes in the trash. They don’t support with parts anymore. 4) For what they are and how they perform, they just **cost too damn much**. Ideally you’ll want a corded and bagged primary vacuum for weekly deep cleans. Then a cordless/bagless stick for quick daily messes. I’d check out a Sebo dart or Miele C1 cat and dog for your primary vacuum. Both of these will last you around 20 years with proper care. Plus if something breaks you can actually fix it. I also think you’ll notice a big difference in allergies with a bagged machine. Emptying the Dyson re-releases millions of particles back into the air (if the gaskets aren’t already leaking). Keep your current Dyson for quick messes if it’s still usable.

If you can bump your budget - a Sebo dart would be fantastic. Otherwise. Kenmore 600 series or Kenmore intuition BU4050. You want something corded **and bagged**

For that budget grab a Sebo dart or Miele C1 Cat and Dog and don’t think twice. Both are excellent options it just depends on your form factor preference.

The best do it all vacuum in that budget is a Sebo Dart.

For one that lasts and carpet focused - Sebo Dart

Probably not available through Lowe’s. But the Miele C1 Cat and Dog routinely goes on sale for around your top budget and checks all your boxes. That would be my pick for sure. If you prefer an upright, Sebo dart which is right on budget too. Keep the cordless stick for quick daily messes. Use the corded/bagged machine for weekly deep cleans.

Oh nice I didn’t know Lowe’s sold them. Yes that model. The bad reviews on lowes’ website have no text so I’ll assume they’re fake/not legit. Take a look around this sub, it’s an excellent machine. A lot of the negative reviews on Amazon for this model are complaining about the canister form factor, not the vacuums itself. For mostly hard floor a canister is ideal, but if you prefer an upright check out the Sebo’s.

You’re in good company with the shark hate. They suck (poorly) Imo if you can swing the extra budget should grab a Sebo dart. It’s an exceptional vacuum.

Miele C1 Cat and Dog is excellent but just slightly over budget. Also a Sebo dart if you prefer an upright. All combo/wet/dry vacs are a joke so get that idea out of your head.

Find a local Miele and Sebo dealer and try out the Sebo dart - the hose is a little tippy but you can get an extension which is great. Ideally you’d want a Miele C1 cat and dog. The canister style seems to suit your needs better than an upright. But it’s a touch over budget. You’ll be able to test drive both of these at your local vacuum store.

Don’t ask here. Ask r/vacuumcleaners people here will recommend shark and other garbage brands. You need something *corded and bagged* if you’re serious about BIFL. A BIFL Sebo dart is slightly over budget but absolutely worth it.

You want to ask r/vacuumcleaners. Miele or Sebo is the correct answer. Corded and bagged. Safely ignore any shark or Dyson recs. Find a local dealer and take a few Miele’s and sebos for a test drive. Specifically the Sebo dart if it’s mostly for carpet.

Check out r/vacuumcleaners As mentioned Miele and Sebo are top brands. You can safely ignore any shark or Dyson recs. They’re garbage. As is anything bagless.

Vacuum wars is a paid shark shill and not to be trusted. Hell Chris even appeared in a shark commercial. BIFL vacuums absolutely exist. They’re corded and bagged made by brands like Miele and Sebo.

If suction and filtration are your main concern, a *bagged* Miele is your best bet. Sebo is also excellent. What’s your flooring like? I wouldn’t even consider Dyson, they’re junk.

Miele, Sebo, Henry, Lindhaus. Shark and Dyson are garbage. Check out r/vacuumcleaners

You want to ask r/vacuumcleaners. Miele or Sebo is the correct answer. Corded and bagged. Safely ignore any shark or Dyson recs. Find a local dealer and take a few Miele’s and sebos for a test drive. Specifically the Sebo dart if it’s mostly for carpet.

The Sebo Dart is a great vacuum, that said, I find it’s easier to do stairs with a canister. The Kenmore 700/800 series are a great canister that should last a good amount of time.

Sebo Dart/ felix definitely worth it. Kenmore BU4050 if you dont want to spend as much and still get bang for your buck

Definitely Sebo if you can swing it. We've had a ton of luck and use out of our Kenmore Intuition BU4050 too

Id consider the hair wrap about normal on the Sebo but removing the brush roll to clean it is the best part its so easy. Comes with a 10 year warranty if you buy from a dealer and bags are around $5 per bag and filters get replaced every 8 to 10 bags. Depending on how much you Vacuum the bags should last a couple months per bag

Sebo if you can budget it. Dart or Felix. Could also try the Kenmore Intuition BU4050

Eureka Stylus NEC490SE has done us well for everyday quick pickups. Then we use our Sebo for deeper longer cleans

Going off your requirements including 80% carpet 20% hard floors, 2 cats, reliable and easy to repair: you’re looking at $550+. So Sebo Dart or Felix if you want an upright or Miele canister.

If you cannot go any higher than that and are willing to get an upright, a Sebo Dart of even a Sebo Felix if you can find one on sale. Reach out to local and online authorized sellers and ask about any current specials. I just recently ordered a Sebo canister (K3) from vacuumdr and saved quite a bit off of retail pricing. If you are set on a canister, then the only one in your price range with a power head from Miele would be the cat and dog model. Again, I'd check with multiple authorized sellers to see who has the best pricing. I almost went with the Miele but opted to pay a bit more for the Sebo K3 as I'm hoping to get 20 years out of it.

Sebo dart is around that price and is fantastic.

Yes and no. Personally I'd prefer the sebo but the riccar is good too especially if you use the hose a lot.

Yes and the on board hose is longer, which helps for above floor cleaning. But for floor cleaning the sebo is more maneuverable. Overall I prefer the sebo since I spend a lot more time cleaning floors than I do with the hose.

The felix/dart is a bit more versatile and flexible in my opinion, but also not as durable as the 350 or X7 uprights. The x7 technically can do hard floors, though the brush doesnt shut off. So not as good for hard floors imo. The 350 isn't really as good for hard floors at all. On both of these, I'd suggest getting the optional extension hose, extra extension tube, and hard floor brush and vacuuming the hard floors that way, using the hose. The D1 canister is great, but suction only. No rotating brush is a no-go for carpets and rugs with pet hair or ground in dirt. Personally I'd lean towards the X7, sacrificing the versatility and maneuverability a little for durability. But the felix would be easier to use. Any chance you can visit a local shop and test some of them out yourself, see what's comfortable for you?

Totally fair, I only suggest dyson as their cordlesses do genuinely preform well. Miele and sebo are fantastic choices corded vac wise.

Wattage doesn't matter. Really, it doesnt. Motor design, airpath design, quality of construction, proper design of the cleaning head all factor in greatly. Vacuums are not less effective now, they are simply more energy efficient and don't heat up the room (which is where all that wasted energy went). Even Airwatt numbers can be misleading, because again the floorhead itself is so critical in the performance. High airwattage doesn't matter if it's applied inefficiently to the surface. Avoid shark, build quality is poor and repairability is nonexistent. But yes a corded model is going to be more reliable in the long run. Pretty much any Miele or Sebo corded machine will be a good choice. They are well made, powerful, reliable. Your ikea rug probably advises against using a motorized rotating brush attachment, both miele and sebo's standard floorheads would suit that rug.

The airstorm, while good, is no better than a miele or sebo. I wouldn't pay the premium. Mieles and sebos are also sealed to trap dust. They are also more modern in design and easier to use (they have cord rewind while the air storm does not). There's nothing really bespoke about the airstorm. Underneath the top shell, the power nozzle is the same as ones avaliable for Miele models. The hose and other tools are generic off-the-shelf supplies etc. While it would probably last you a long time and do a good job, you might resent using it. I'd strongly suggest you try one in person before choosing, and frankly I'd save money and go with a nicer to use miele/sebo.

Sebo would be a good choice as an all in one vacuum replacement. But a suitable model would be a little over your price range. And sebos are dry vacuums only. As for the floor washing things, they work pretty well for mopping floors but are not an all-in-one solution in my opinion. I have a similar machine but I always vacuum first before using it. For one, they aren't as good as an actual vacuum. They don't pull dirt from corners well. And they are a complete mess to clean out when you're done if you don't vacuum ahead of time. In that way, they don't really save much work imo. And they don't work on carpet of course. So I'm not sure there's really an all-in-one solution I could recommend. If thoroughly cleaning out the floor washing machine each use is something you wouldn't mind doing, that could be worth a try. But you'd still need to vacuum your carpets with something else.

Buy a Sebo Dart or K3. Both under $900 and last forever.