Elgato - Facecam Pro

Just received mine today. It refuses to output 4K. It just reverts back to 1080p60. It also uses up a lot of USB bandwidth apparently(???), more than the Facecam Pro I guess. I had a Facecam Pro and a Stream Deck + in my set up, working fine together, but when I swapped the Pro for the 4K, it knocked my Stream Deck + out of commission to where it wouldn’t display any icons. At one point, my entire computer crashed too. I had to swap around some USB cables in my PC to get things back to normal but not sitting too well so far due to these issues and inconveniences right out of the box. EDIT: got the 4K to work - seems like it wouldn’t do 4K rez because I had a blur filter on (totally forgot). Once I turned it off, I managed to get 4K. Although there is like a second delay on the Camera Hub preview.. not sure if this is expected behavior. Still concerned about the USB hub bandwidth though. Everything is ok so far but when I first plugged in the Facecam 4K, things just started to act weird.

I’ve got the facecam pro. Had it about a year and it’s great! And I use Nvidia broadcast for background blur. With good lighting, works well.

I have both the Elgato Facecam Pro and the Insta360 Link 2. I just got the Insta360 as a potential upgrade. My experience is that the Facecam Pro may be capable of a technically sharper image, but I could never get it to look as good. The auto balancing for exposure and color correction was terrible in my experience. After spending hours with it, I was able to get it to look good in one lighting setting. If that lighting changed, it would get horribly washed out and I'd have to do new manual settings. It's reviewed as a great camera, I just had a poor experience with it in practice. The Insta360 is just very slightly not as sharp (and is not capable of 4k60fps if that's important to you). But it's been a much friendlier camera for me. I still played with some settings and have some stuff on manual, but it's a lot more plug and play. The tracking is cool for keeping me centered in frame, and the ability to easily tilt it down is awesome. For instance, if I wanted to have a view of me playing guitar or keyboard, it's really easy to adjust to capture that. Also, unexpected bonus, the Insta360 is smaller and lighter than the Facecam Pro. I am a TERRIBLE leg bouncer. The Facecam had so much mass that it would subtly bounce with my leg, and nobody said anything about it until I moved to the new camera and the bouncing stopped lol. Also worth noting the Insta360 is a good bit cheaper than the Facecam Pro. I personally got good value and quality out of both cameras. Happy to DM you a YouTube link to one of my VODs before and after I made the camera change if it helps

I have the Insta360 Link 2 and it looks great, even better than my old Elgato Facecam Pro that I ended up selling.

I concur. I got FCP couple of days back and had intention of returning it. Then I started playing with lighting in my room and I think I like it. Proper lighting is very key. I have Amaran Verge Max on order to lit me up

You certainly did the math! Thanks. I have the FCP at the moment. It is definitely night and day better than the Anker C300 that I had. Since this post, I have adjusted the ring light - throwing it back on the monitor wall and letting the room be a giant soft box, instead of it shining hard on me. I turned off the ceiling Hue lights and placed a govee floor lamp as practical light. The results have been pleasing compared to what I had before. I have also bitten the bullet on getting the Amaran Verge Max with a grid. Once it arrives, I will see how FCP fares. I do like the convenience of FCP at the moment, and since I have dialed in the exposure settings and white balance, the results have been pleasing. I guess my interest shifted from blurring the background to making the subject pop and the background dark with a few practicals.

I got my FCP yesterday. Initially, I had the intention of returning it based on the numerous discussions here. However, I decided to experiment with my lighting and give it a try. I discovered that I could reduce the background elements (color led) from overshooting by by placing my ring light 180 degrees opposite its usual position. This way, I could illuminate the wall behind it, which then reflected the light back at me, creating a softer effect. Additionally, I manually adjusted the exposure in Camera Hub by reducing the ISO value. I also turned off the Hue bulbs from ceiling and instead used a floor lamp with hue bulb in it to add background element. After these adjustments, I compared my existing Anker C300 ring light with FCP, and it was significantly better. This experience has made me determined to replace my ring light with the recently released Amaran Verge Max. lighting and give it a try. Good luck with your FC4K try out, but I think if you adjust your lighting by making it focused on you than filling the room, either of the cameras will work for you. Based on what I checked online, Key Light should be able to achieve this by putting it at 45degree from the subject as well as tilting it down by 30-45degree.

I bought the FCP about 6 months ago and love it. Yes, it produces a somewhat grainy image in low light, but what camera doesn't? I am new to streaming/video producing, but not to photography. The image quality in normal lighting is very good, and I think the features through the Camera Hub software are great. For a second POV, I use an inexpensive Emeet 4K webcam. Changing filter might be nice, but so far unnecessary. The Facecam 4K might do the trick at a lower cost, but I don't have a side-by-side comparison. I have no regrets with the FCP.

I have a FaceCam Pro and currently have a FaceCam 4K on order (should be here Friday!) Next week, depending on how the 4K performs, I’ll either have a Pro for sale or will be returning the 4K 😁 Like you, I have a “set” with colored LED mood lighting behind me. There are two issues I’m experiencing (I’m sorry if I get the terminology wrong, I’m no photographer or videographer 🫩) Firstly, darker parts of the picture are extremely grainy (looks like it’s fizzing). I’m told to light it better, but it’s supposed to be dark! If I increase the main light brightness, then the colored lights just get washed out. Secondly, depending on my background color, it often looks awful-I’m told it’s a dynamic range issue. The 4K has a HDR option, which I am keen to try. If it fixes the problems, then it stays 😉 I’ll keep you posted.

I have a FaceCam Pro and currently have a FaceCam 4K on order (should be here Friday!) Next week, depending on how the 4K performs, I’ll either have a Pro for sale or will be returning the 4K 😁 Like you, I have a “set” with colored LED mood lighting behind me. There are two issues I’m experiencing (I’m sorry if I get the terminology wrong, I’m no photographer or videographer 🫩) Firstly, darker parts of the picture are extremely grainy (looks like it’s fizzing). I’m told to light it better, but it’s supposed to be dark! If I increase the main light brightness, then the colored lights just get washed out. Secondly, depending on my background color, it often looks awful-I’m told it’s a dynamic range issue. The 4K has a HDR option, which I am keen to try. If it fixes the problems, then it stays 😉 I’ll keep you posted.

I think it would perform poorly in the lighting shown in your photo. I guess it will depend on what look you’re going for and always give it a try with and without extra light. But if you’re expecting that crispy 4K look, you’ll have to get your subject brighter. I do think having two sources of white light setup correctly makes the Facecam Pro shine.

Facecam 4K recently dropped from Elgato. Can attach 49mm filters and their software is easy to use.

Bro that Elgato Facecam 4K is kinda sick.

I have several on primary, secondary and office workstations. The two cameras I really enjoy are the Logitech Brio and the Elgato FaceCam Pro. The Brio has served me well since the pandemic lockdown, every day for at least two hours a day in Teams meetings. The FaceCam Pro is a quit recent purchase, I replaced a clunky setup with a Sony mirrorless with it. It has great quality and a nice bokeh for a webcam, and together with a key- or ring-light it makes for good recordings, not just meetings. I find this is a tremendous upgrade from just joining from my mac or surface laptop. I pair with a good microphone, and I almost have a studio with just three usb-c connections (mic, cam, neo keylight). Just haven't figured out how to handle my clicky-click mechanic keyboards when I do demo video recordings...

I did a lot of video meetings and recordings for a while and ended up with a Sony A6600 connected to a ATEM video switcher. Really great setup for both recording and streaming, and on every Zoom or Teams call I stand out with exceptional video quality. That is a big investment though, but most professional photographers have a body they could use for this. Buy a Manfrotto arm to have it attached to your desk and positioned just right. For my "other" office I wanted something easier, but still high quality, and ended up with the Elgato Facecam 4K. Just USB connection, works like a charm, and pretty decent quality.

I use the Elgato pro webcam through a cooperation and it is simply incomparably good

I just picked up the Elagato Facecam 4K

If you want top quality and easy setup, these are solid options: Insta360 Link — great quality, clips on easily, has auto-tracking. Elgato Facecam Pro — sharp image, big sensor, simple plug-and-play. iContact Camera — excellent image, built for natural eye contact, quick to set up and take down. Since you already have good lighting, any of these will look great. All can be set up in under a minute and don’t need to stay permanently mounted.

It does not have an infrared sensor, so it does not support Windows Hello.

The system requirements are for our software, but Facecam 4K is a UVC device. So you'll be able to use it within Linux. Camera Hub will not work, however.

Both are great options. If you want to use 49mm filters or HDR, I would consider Facecam 4K.

It does not have an infrared sensor, so it does not support Windows Hello.

Check out Facecam 4K in action: * [Elgato Facecam 4K overview video](https://youtu.be/ssX5oYLvEYk) * [Elgato Facecam 4K quality showcase](https://youtu.be/E3DXQ7XaaBY)

Yes, HDR is supported by Facecam 4K up to 4K30. To be extra clear, this is not the same type of HDR as is found in capture cards. More info here: [https://www.elgato.com/us/en/explorer/products/camera-hub/camera-hub-dynamic-range/](https://www.elgato.com/us/en/explorer/products/camera-hub/camera-hub-dynamic-range/)

Yes, Facecam 4K outputs 1440p60 uncompressed video to OBS Studio

I think Switch 2 uses a maximum of 540p, so Facecam 4K will send that to your Switch 2.

I just created my own filter holder for Facecam Pro with a 3D Printer, it uses 62mm filters right now :-D had to test various sizes, opening is 60mm and i can press the 62mm filter in the circle, covers full field of view. Added mist and CPL. https://preview.redd.it/e848qrphsdlf1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9cf3772ada8c97189d71f88a4644bbebf8645bf

I have two Logitech BRIOs sitting on the shelf, because they're useless basket-case shitgoblins. They error out, overheat, glitch, disconnect, and generally are just trash. I bought two because the whitesheet made them look like the perfect webcam. They are not. They look WORSE than a c920 even in perfect lighting somehow. I'll regularly take one off the shelf and update the software and firmware to see if it's fixed yet. Still no, so far. I'd recommend one of the Elgato Facecams if you're going with a webcam. The Mk2 or Pro both are at the upper end of what a webcam is going to be capable of, and punch almost on-par with a starter grade DSLR/mirrorless.

The Elgato Facecam 4K. It uses the Sony STARVIS 2 sensor, which is very, very, VERY good. Exceptional quality and low-light performance. I'm waiting until Black Friday to order one myself, since it's not that far off. The Tiny 2 has physical auto-tracking as an advantage, and the sensor is slightly larger, but they don't list the brand, so it's kind of a crapshoot. Really, just head to YouTube and look at review footage from both. 4K is actually pretty handy if you want to zoom in for dramatic closeup effects without it looking like pixelated crap. Also lets you use a wider FOV with less quality loss, so you can use larger gestures without going out of frame.

I have the facecam pro and i can confirm that it often does lean very magenta in color, more so than i would have anticipated based on previous cameras which I've had in the same space. Camera hub settings were not able to fix this for me, tweaking my lighting did. I have some RGB smart bulbs for accent lighting, and i spent some time adjusting those colors and found that there was a relatively small sweet spot where the colors looked *normal.* Its a great camera, id recommend getting a $10 RGB bulb and spending some time tweaking the color until it looks right. Edit: FYI i do like my lighting a bit on the warmer/redder side, but you CAN make it look normal with some tweaking.

I upgraded from a c920 to the Facecam 4K and I had the fixed focus so much. Crazy id have to pay $100 for the facecam pro just to have that

Bear in mind there’s more goes into this than resolution and frame rate. For example my Elgato FaceCam Pro is a 4k 60fps camera but to support 4k60 it requires either H264 or MJPEG video compression. Both of these add considerable delay. For that reason I run it at 1080p60 with NV12 uncompressed signal which syncs nicely with audio. Plus all the other comments about image sensor and lens quality are completely valid. You could always take a shot on one of the more unknown brands but be ready to return it. And check how much that’ll cost.

Don’t believe the hype from the YouTubers calling this the “best web cam ever”. It’s just not good. Just returned mine last week for two reasons - one, like someone else mentioned, you need a ton of light to look even just normal, never mind good…that small aperture kills it. And two, this camera + Prompter is I’m sure fine for many purposes but if you are recording and not live-streaming…good luck. The Studio software doesn’t support this camera. NO software Elgato currently has on their site supports it for recording. So you have to use a third party like OBS and that is a lot of work arounds you need to do for something as simple as recording a video. The fact that there’s a bundle selling the Facecam 4K and Prompter together on their website is laughable.

Unfortunately, the Facecam 4k is just a bad webcam. It's fixed focus, so you have to be sitting in just the right spot to be in focus. They claim it has a wide range that should be in focus, but all that really means is that it has a small aperture, which means you need a ton of light to look good and the background will never get that nice blur everyone wants. If you don't have enough light, you have to crank up the ISO, which means you get a lot more grain/noise. If you then turn on noise reduction, you're going to look softer/blurrier. I do think it can look decently sharp *if* you have enough light to set the ISO low and leave the noise reduction off, but in practice, I've yet to see a review where the reviewer actually looks in focus. Seriously, people just need to not buy this webcam. I don't know what Elgato was thinking.

So when I deactivate the white balance I find that the picture looks a bit more “real”. Nevertheless, I find my lips very reddish, for example, or my dark circles very strong. Is it not worth using a different camera? I didn't have to adjust anything on my previous Logitech Brio. Of course, the quality of the image is simply different and doesn't match the resolution and fluidity of the Elgato pro.

First of all Thank you. I've read several times now that the Elgato Pro is “very magenta”, the settings only had a limited effect so far . I use a Litra Glow from Logitech as my light source. That was always been enough.

I have the facecam pro and facecam mk2 And I prefer the Mk2 because with the pro I had artefacts and more noise. I want to upgrade to a DSLR though but I’m waiting for a new CamLink that can do 4K60 with no compression or buy a 4K X capture card

Yeah I'm having a ton of fun with their support right now too - I bought the 4k and the wave 3 mic....and they never sent the mic.

I don't know much about this stuff, but I bought the 4k last week and I think you have a lighting issue. Using the cam with regular room lights at night was pretty disappointing - not much of an upgrade from the regular webcam in my macbook. But, with one of the key lights on, the picture quality goes WAY up.

The brio is pretty good for its price. Make sure you get the one you have shown here if you choose brio. The newer one is honestly worse quality in terms of picture. I would not get the egato facecam unless you can get the pro, which is significantly more expensive but has insanely good picture quality for a webcam. Its almost indistinguishable from an actual DSLR. I'd say the obsbot is probably a little bit better than the brio in quality. The c922 that people are suggesting is markedly worse than any of these choices and despite what people tell you, lighting is not going to fix that. You're going to want good lighting for any camera you use.

The DSLR with a 135mm lens (if money is not the issue) would be absolutely premium, but as you said, it's really cumbersome. Both the Kiyo Ultra and Elgato Pro would be really worth trying. I like the low light picture quality with the Razer Kiyo Cams better than the Elgato ones, I saw that Elgato flickers more with low light. So it depends also on the lighting of your background. I'm currently using a Kiyo Pro (I hope I won't have the USB issue like you had!) with key lights in direction to a reflector in front of me, a ring light with diffusor on my face and a low background light, so the lighting is quite low at all. With NVIDIA Broadcast it makes a nice DSLR effect, this is the low budget version tho. I hope this somehow helps!

I got the facecam pro on launch and maybe it is the worst Elgato product I’ve ever bought. My face looks much better and lighting also looks better in the vanilla facecam. So I decided to do a panoramic view of my studio with it … but it is very hard with the MICROSCOPIC cable that comes with it. I had to somehow make my pc higher … I managed to do it. Then this facecam pro eats A LOT of resources / bandwidth / who knows … that sometimes my other facecams slowdown or my stream deck plus ‘s screen start flickering and acting weird … or some devices don’t work at all. (I have a very capable streaming pc). So I almost never use it. I can’t imagine these problems to get any better with the 4K cam.

This has been my experience with the Facecam 4K, just cannot get it looking good.

There are several quality webcams that look as good as regular cameras these days. Elgato Facecam Pro and Facecam MK2. Osbots line of cameras. Insta 360s line of cameras. And on a budget, even the EMEET 4K camera. I was using a Canon SL2's and moved to Elgato cameras and the quality is good with zero complaints from viewers. And the software for webcams is easier and faster to make adjustments on than it is for DSLR/Mirrorless cameras in many cases. So, I'd say if you're mostly filming from your deck or some stationary situation, a high quality webcam will more than take care of your needs.

One amazing change is the ability to Add Filters, makes a huge difference.

Just purchased this amazing camera but sadly you have to 3D print the part needed to mount it to the Elgato Prompter. However you cannot put a content creator down. Solution: (you can do this with or without the filter) * Add a Polarising Filter with dual thread. * Add the 49mm Sytep Up Ring * Attach Monitor Mount and fold it up * Mount to Main Prompter * Add the L Bracket and push it up against the Monitor Mount Hey presto you have a full proijector kit. Absolutely love it, and the polarising lens is amazing for wearing glasses. Elgato: Now hurry up and release the XL Prompter.

I have the elgato face cam pro and I can tell you it's a beast of a camera. It's definitely much better quality than any other webcam on the market. It's nearly DSLR quality if set right. Though I will say make sure you have the PC horsepower to run it. Uses anywhere from 4 to 8gigs of ram just to use and requires a usb 3.1. Terms of quality though it's unmatched at the price.

Elgato face cam pro is best webcam on the market and one of the few doing true 1080p 60 or 4k 30fps. It's a beast of a webcam and uses Sony Starbis is sensors. Better quality than both obsbot and insta360 but those would be good if you move around and need the following features they have.

If you want background blur then Option A BUT Keep in mind that 16-35 F2.8 is a Full Frame lens, so on an R50V (or R100,50,10,7) will be a 25.6-56mm Full Frame (FF) equivalent lens with an FF equivalent depth of field of around F4.5 because of the 1.6x crop factor of Canon's APS-C sensors. Compared to the Facecam Pro which has a 21mm FF equivalent lens with an aperture of F2. The sensor in the Facecam Pro has a crop factor of just under 5 (4.8) so with the crop factor it has a 21mm lens with an FF equivalent depth of field of around F10 (9.6) which is actually worse than the main camera on a lot of flagship smartphones which has sensors that have crop factors around 2.7-2.8. So if you want the full background blur that 16-35 can provide you will need to put it on a full frame body, the cheapest RF body being the R8 which also has a UVC mode but is more than, double the price of the R50V at 1600 USD. If the price is too much, you can also sell the lens and get a lens that is designed for the Canon Crop bodies. If you are after background blur one of the Sigma DC DN F1.4 lenses would be your best option, based on where that prompter is currently the 16mm would likely be the best fit and give a 25.6 FF equivalent look. Also if you want 4K60 out of the R50V (or any mirrorless camera) it will have to be via HDMI, none of the Cameras sold today do 4K60 over USB-C

Most everyone is saying it's bad in the replies but I love FCP. I got it in a deal combo with the prompter so it's also great they work together so easily. I am not sure how it works with background separation because I use green screen. It works VERY WELL with other elgato products. The software is by far the best selling point for the elgato camera. You can control it with the stream deck+ and it makes the prompter a breeze. My only issues: 1. it seems to be more finicky with refreshing/releasing what program is using it. If I accidentally start zoom before OBS zoom owns that camera source until I quit both programs and start obs first. Before I could just click a refresh camera source button in the virtual camera source and it would fix. 2. There is no "pause video" option. I want to get up from my desk in the middle of a meeting without distracting anyone by turning camera off or moving. 3. Every zoom meeting, someone will comment on how good the camera looks and draws everyone's attention to me.

I use the Elgato Facecam Pro and it did have a little weird color straight out of the box. The auto white balance was the culprit and once I turned that off it looks incredible.   I’d recommend downloading Elgato’s Camera Hub and adjusting settings within that. No camera is going to be perfect straight out of the box for all setups.   To utilize it across multiple computers all you would need to do is to download that software and set the settings once on each machine, after that it would retain your settings each time you plug in.

This is the camera I started out with (the C920x version).   It was a good little camera but it does take some work to get looking good!   I’d suggest turning off auto white balance and setting it to what you have your Elgato lights set to. Since you have consistent lighting, the white balance shouldn’t change too much and the auto setting will often be incorrect.   You’ll also want to set the gain and brightness.   You can change these settings within OBS by clicking the ‘Configure Video’ button in the video source properties window. Also realize this camera was originally released in 2012… 13 years ago… EDIT: If you want to change it for a better camera both Elgato Facecam products are great with great color and exposure.

Yup! I have both! The Pro just has 4k @ 60fps whereas the mk.2 is 1080p @ 60fps. But on Twitch the highest quality you can stream at (as of right now) is 1080p @ 60fps. This video is a great deep dive into the Mk.2: https://youtu.be/AoO7M-P5gqs?si=XZT3IxKOV9hZdW--

I recently got the Pro after my original Facecam started to fail at ~3.5 years old. I picked up the OBSCAM Meet 2 first for $99, but it's software is worse than Camera Hub. The camera itself is very small and puts out a decent looking 4K30 image, but I'd have issues with the camera sleeping and refusing to wake up, or with it randomly being 400% zoom level when I opened OBS. I was considering the new 4K, but the larger aperture on the Pro seemed worth it to me since lighting can be tricky in my home office. I've only been using the Pro for a few days, but the mostly auto settings are working better than full manual settings did on the OG Facecam. Still working on dialing it in more.

Elgato facecam pro with good lighting

I have the 4K pro and its great. You just need to remember it's a webcam and not a mirrorless. You need to light up your subject really well, and you will struggle to get decent background separation. So if you're going for the light up subject / dark background look, you're better off looking at a mirrorless / dslr option.

The FaceCam 4k is not an upgrade to the FaceCam Pro. The pro has a larger sensor that makes the camera better at taking in light to improve image quality. The reason you look fuzzy is because you're out of focus. Elgato says you get 1 - 4 feet distance to be in focus, but personally I found the actual focus point is about 3 feet. Once you start getting closer to 3'4 you start pulling away from the focus point, and at around 4 you get fuzzy (but usuable) quality. Also the elgato key light air is not really the best at lighting up your face, they are small which means the light is harsher, meaning to get good results you have to dial it up too high making your face look glossy or have sharp shadows. So most creators dial it down to where it looks best, but it also doesn't provide enough light. The focus is making your face look fuzzy, and the lighting is making your 60fps not look like 60fps. Not because the lighting affects FPS but because your camera is compensating for low light by dropping the shutter speed, which introduces motion blur.

The FaceCam 4k is not an upgrade to the FaceCam Pro. The pro has a larger sensor that makes the camera better at taking in light to improve image quality. The reason you look fuzzy is because you're out of focus. Elgato says you get 1 - 4 feet distance to be in focus, but personally I found the actual focus point is about 3 feet. Once you start getting closer to 3'4 you start pulling away from the focus point, and at around 4 you get fuzzy (but usuable) quality. Also the elgato key light air is not really the best at lighting up your face, they are small which means the light is harsher, meaning to get good results you have to dial it up too high making your face look glossy or have sharp shadows. So most creators dial it down to where it looks best, but it also doesn't provide enough light. The focus is making your face look fuzzy, and the lighting is making your 60fps not look like 60fps. Not because the lighting affects FPS but because your camera is compensating for low light by dropping the shutter speed, which introduces motion blur.

I picked up the FC4K and actually like it. You are 💯 on the lighting. That makes a huge difference. I am still messing around with it.

I don't understand the hate for the Facecam Pro in this thread. I got it as soon as it was available and always found it really really good, even when lighting isn't the best as long as you set it up correctly. And I mean close mirrorless quality, especially to the untrained eye. I'm sure people will laugh at that, but I'm serious. I do use a mirrorless over the Pro because I have one and it was way more expensive, so I should get my money out of it. I point the Pro at my cat bed. But I would have zero problem going back to using the Pro as my main cam because the quality is so good. It's just not as versatile, but that isn't really a big downside for most streamers as they're just sitting in one place with mostly static lighting. And for people who say it's bad and has never been worth it, I do wonder what you think has the same quality for the same price? I personally think the Kiro 4k looks a bit better out of the box, but not once both are properly set up. I haven't personally tried any of the tracking webcams, but I have almost every other one, and the Facecam Pro looks better than all of them. *Edit* I should note, I think the Facecam 2 looks about as good when it comes to color accuracy and such at a much lower price. That would definitely be my recommendation for anyone who doesn't stream at 4k. But if you want a 4k camera and don't want to go the professional camera route, the Pro is the way to go imo.

FWIW, I tried a tonne of webcams including the pro. And none of them were close to a mirrorless camera with a decent lens and camlink. I’ve got an old Sony a5? I think and a sigma 30mm 1.4 I’ve got decent natural light as well as elgato key light. The pro is fine for streaming programs but as soon as I went on teams or zoom, they just demolish and compress the quality for whatever reason. It was no different to a cheap webcam. A camera is a different class though and the depth of field and crispness nearly EVERYONE comments on when I speak to new people on a teams call.

I would recommend the insta360 link. Even if it's the version one. Really great camera with really great quality easy to use and will outperform any of those for around the same price. But if you want a camera that will let you stream at 4K 60. Then the elgato FaceCam pro is only webcam that allows that. Otherwise you'll have to get like a Dlsr. Now with the other cameras they do 30 frames at 4K. But that's only for your webcam your stream itself will be able to be at 4K 60.

Returning as we speak. I bought this because i thought it'd be better than the MK.2. The facecam MK.2 clears this one easily.... 

I incorporated the Elgato Facecam 4K into my gaming/streaming setup today... and I have never felt more frustrated. Not only did it take me 2 hours to figure out the backplate, but more importantly, I'm not entirely sure why the picture and video quality look worse than the Elgato Facecam Pro that I used to have. I'm not sure if you guys can tell, but if you zoom in, it looks fuzzy and distorted straight out of the box. I have the Preview Format set to 2160p60, but it looks like it's stuck at 30fps. As someone who plans on recording videos for larger screens, this might be an issue. I updated the firmware for the Elgato Camera Hub app so I am currently on version 2.1.1 (6518), I have 2 Elgato Key Light Airs to my left and right, I recorded this video in OBS using the Elgato Virtual Camera as it's source, and I am using 3 different types of lenses (Polarizer, Black Diffusion 1/4, and Close-up Filter + 2) and yet this issue persists. Is anyone else having this issue, or is someone from Elgato able to help me? TIA! Also, apologies for the messy background in the video! It's still a work in progress. lol

Thanks for the feedback, guys! I've decided to return the Facecam 4K and rebuy the Facecam Pro I sold a few days ago. *sighs* 😭

I COULD get a better, cheaper camera, but I genuinely do love the Elgato Facecam Pro. It didn't occur to me how lucky I was to have a giant sensor for this webcam in my tiny lil room. ESPECIALLY compared to the Facecam 4K... yikes.

I incorporated the Elgato Facecam 4K into my gaming/streaming setup today... and I have never felt more frustrated. Not only did it take me 2 hours to figure out the backplate, but more importantly, I'm not entirely sure why the picture and video quality look worse than the Elgato Facecam Pro that I used to have. I'm not sure if you guys can tell, but if you zoom in, it looks fuzzy and distorted straight out of the box. I have the Preview Format set to 2160p60, but it looks like it's stuck at 30fps. As someone who plans on recording videos for larger screens, this might be an issue. I updated the firmware for the Elgato Camera Hub app so I am currently on version 2.1.1 (6518), I have 2 Elgato Key Light Airs to my left and right, I recorded this video in OBS using the Elgato Virtual Camera as it's source, and I am using 3 different types of lenses (Polarizer, Black Diffusion 1/4, and Close-up Filter + 2) and yet this issue persists. Is anyone else having this issue, or is someone from Elgato able to help me? TIA! Also, apologies for the messy background in the video! It's still a work in progress. lol

I COULD get a better, cheaper camera, but I genuinely do love the Elgato Facecam Pro. It didn't occur to me how lucky I was to have a giant sensor for this webcam in my tiny lil room. ESPECIALLY compared to the Facecam 4K... yikes.

Honestly, the Facecam Pro is a GREAT camera! I only replaced it with the Facecam 4K because some reviews I saw suggested that it was supposed to replace the Pro, but I now know that this was not the case. THAT and I thought the lenses and HDR were gonna be gamechangers because I've been holding out for a Facecam Pro MK.2 that has these features. Honestly, the lenses only complicate things because if you add one too many lenses, you start to get rounded black edges. And the HDR? IT MADE ME LOOK LIKE A CHEETOH, BRO. \*cries\*

I've heard good things about Insta360 webcams! I'm probably gonna go back to the Facecam Pro, still. Not only was the quality very good, but I love how seamless the integration with the Elgato Prompter is. Appreciate the suggestion, tho!!

I just bought the facecam pro, should I return it for this?

I purchased the Elgato Facecam 4K. They advertise Switch 2 compatibility on the latest (v2.32) firmware. I upgraded the firmware, tried lots of different software configurations from the Camera Hub. Nothing I did, either the A or C ports on the console and dock allowed the camera to be detected.

Honestly it really depends on what you’re looking for. My two I would suggest would be an Elgato FaceCam (4K if you really wanna pop) or the OBSBOT Meet 2. The latter has tech in it that can track your movement and even use vocal commands to change zooms and such. Both of these you can get below $200 and as far as looks go, it’s perfect unless you’re doing craft/building streams.