AVM - 4060
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"excellent update philosophy (very long update support, you will find a lot of boxes out there that are 10+ years old and still running the latest OS)"
"I have been using FRITZ!Boxes for 20 years without any issue."
"These things are solid. ... I've been using them for 10 years... Never had an issue."
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"Easy to use for the average Joe but with tons of functions for the advanced user"
"I've had fritz box router in my old apartment and that was by emfar the best router I used from the standpoint of user interface"
"Fritzbox are generally easy to use"
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"excellent update philosophy (very long update support, you will find a lot of boxes out there that are 10+ years old and still running the latest OS)"
"they get software updates for a long time usually - at least in the past it was usually 10 years after the introduction of a model, possibly even more."
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"you can hang all your old Fritzbox equipment in the Mesh as signal repeaters, best hard wired"
"you can hang all your old Fritzbox equipment in the Mesh as signal repeaters, best hard wired"
"Also running FRITZ! smart home stuff, no issues as well."
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"I am completely shocked that a single Fritzbox router manages all of our wireless needs in a mid-size company (a few switches and probably 2 dozen APs). We do not use it for work, only for private devices, still, around 100-500 devices connected every work day."
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"Do you have any advice or resources on getting this setup? I tried playing with GenieACS and I could not get it working at all. ... Honestly it's been over a year since I tried it and gave up. I remember having spent weeks on it and lots of time searching forums. ... I remember I was able to trigger some kind of authentication thing where the lights on the box would blink, but I wasn't able to push config to it. I also don't think it was showing up in my ACS server at all."
"Once I moved away from the FRITZ stuff I finally got options to fix buffer bloat and do proper QoS."
"Yeah it’s okay for the masses, but it misses the mark if you want more control and have even slight complexity."
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"Do you have any advice or resources on getting this setup? I tried playing with GenieACS and I could not get it working at all. ... Honestly it's been over a year since I tried it and gave up. I remember having spent weeks on it and lots of time searching forums. ... I remember I was able to trigger some kind of authentication thing where the lights on the box would blink, but I wasn't able to push config to it. I also don't think it was showing up in my ACS server at all."
"The most frustrating thing about them is the need to press a button or use your landline to change security settings. ... Every other router authenticates the user instead of the user and every action. ... Yeah I know that, but it doesn’t really make it less annoying or unnecessary…"
"very limited, handholding ... It's my device, let me do whatever I want with it, whose options are there just not exposed in the UI."
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"I had three or four Fritzboxen die on me over the years. ... they tend to have a bit of a reliability issue."
"the connection was horrid and it always gave us problems."
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"the web interface of a FritzBox was getting really slow because they added a lot of features that the CPU couldn't handle."
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"The most frustrating thing about them is the need to press a button or use your landline to change security settings. ... Every other router authenticates the user instead of the user and every action. ... Yeah I know that, but it doesn’t really make it less annoying or unnecessary…"
"not very secure. ... List of CVEs https://app.opencve.io/cve/?vendor=avm"
"very limited, handholding ... It's my device, let me do whatever I want with it, whose options are there just not exposed in the UI."
Laverna_Yerai 1.0Hi, im a service tech from Telekom, i can confirm that there are some regions (esp the norther Germany) are experiencing peering issues. Here in the south it is not that bad. Tl;dr: O² is a solid pick, personally im not a huge fan of them but they have a subjective good routing and public peering. If you are unhappy with your Speedport Smart 4 (i guess it is that one for 6,95€) you can return it through the 14day return policy. Personally, i think the Smart 4 is one of our good products, if you dont want to tinker THAT much with it since its WLAN performance is usable and the WiFi Mesh is tightly integrated. While you can enter custom PPPoE credentials some services may not work like VoIP. If your ISP of choice doesnt support Dualstack... prepare for trouble Fritz! routers on the other hand are THE most flexible consumer(friendly) brand in Germany to this date. Esp when it comes to DS-Lite support. If we wont supply you with fiber it is very likely that you only have Vodafone or O² as a option, sometimes there is a local ISP (the local Stadtwerke), in my case Netcom BW, who will run the fibre network. 1&1, Vodafone, O² aand many others CAN (often called open access) use our Telekom Fibre network either via Bitstream (aka LS2BSA) or as a Wholesale (means we do most of the routing). The later one will not change your latency/routing for most cases. Another factor is DS-Lite, most ISPs use it, sometimes CGNAT, this does add latency to some degree, altho i wouldnt worry to much about it. Services which NEED a public IPv4 will suffer if the peering is suboptimal since there is more NAT involved and the peers are overloaded. EDIT: Fritz! routers i would pick: \- 7590 AX v2 \- 7530 AX \- 4060 (req. a external modem) \- 7690 (IF you need Wifi7 for MLO, the 7690 does NOT have the 6GHz band) The 7590 (non AX) and 7490 are old by now, esp the 7490 (launch 2013).
Successful-Studio227 1.0As our NBN is so backwards, best buy is the Fritzbox 4060, https://amzn.asia/d/5UkWSlE you can hang all your old Fritzbox equipment in the Mesh as signal repeaters, best hard wired
As our NBN is so backwards, best buy is the Fritzbox 4060, https://amzn.asia/d/5UkWSlE you can hang all your old Fritzbox equipment in the Mesh as signal repeaters, best hard wired
Already for years VERY happy with our AVM Fritzbox-Meshed setup, 4 repeaters are all of the same brand only one not hardwired. We 'own' the local WiFi channels ;-)
Accomplished-Moose50 0.1You don't have to oversell it, it's a decent router from EU, but very limited, handholding and not very secure. List of CVEs https://app.opencve.io/cve/?vendor=avm
AdApart3821 0.1Both renting or buying are valid options. The telekom routers are not bad. The advantage of renting is that they will replace the router if it breaks or if for reasons of modernization you need a new one, but both of these cases are rare. Fritzbox are generally easy to use and seen as reliable; also they get software updates for a long time usually - at least in the past it was usually 10 years after the introduction of a model, possibly even more. However the manufacturer of Fritzbox (AVM) has been bought by an investor last year (I believe, maybe even 2023), so it is quiet probable that the software update policy will worsen. I still would buy a fritzbox though if I would want to buy a router. Which router you could buy depends on what technology your internet access is. The most common ones are DSL or Glasfaser (fibre). Some buildings have cable internet.
asp174 0.1GenieACS works fine with fritzboxes. What exactly does not work for you? How do you feed the ACS URL to your boxes, do they even register in the ACS?
bubu19999 0.1i had horrible experience with the axe5400. went to fritzbox, never looking back
CaptainPoset 0.1Renting is the better option and Fritz! Box is the way to go (made in Berlin, Germany, for all the r/BuyfromEU reasons).
Cautious-Hovercraft7 0.1Used quite a bit by regional ISPs in Ireland
DragonflyFuture4638 0.1These things are solid. I've been using them for 10 years... Before with copper and now fibre. Never had an issue.
Maybe they send the good ones to Switzerland 😂
Dr_F_Rreakout 0.1I have been using FRITZ!Boxes for 20 years without any issue. Also running FRITZ! smart home stuff, no issues as well.
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