AVM - FRITZ!Box 7590 AX

Hi, im a service tech from Telekom, i can confirm that there are some regions (esp the norther Germany) are experiencing peering issues. Here in the south it is not that bad. Tl;dr: O² is a solid pick, personally im not a huge fan of them but they have a subjective good routing and public peering. If you are unhappy with your Speedport Smart 4 (i guess it is that one for 6,95€) you can return it through the 14day return policy. Personally, i think the Smart 4 is one of our good products, if you dont want to tinker THAT much with it since its WLAN performance is usable and the WiFi Mesh is tightly integrated. While you can enter custom PPPoE credentials some services may not work like VoIP. If your ISP of choice doesnt support Dualstack... prepare for trouble Fritz! routers on the other hand are THE most flexible consumer(friendly) brand in Germany to this date. Esp when it comes to DS-Lite support. If we wont supply you with fiber it is very likely that you only have Vodafone or O² as a option, sometimes there is a local ISP (the local Stadtwerke), in my case Netcom BW, who will run the fibre network. 1&1, Vodafone, O² aand many others CAN (often called open access) use our Telekom Fibre network either via Bitstream (aka LS2BSA) or as a Wholesale (means we do most of the routing). The later one will not change your latency/routing for most cases. Another factor is DS-Lite, most ISPs use it, sometimes CGNAT, this does add latency to some degree, altho i wouldnt worry to much about it. Services which NEED a public IPv4 will suffer if the peering is suboptimal since there is more NAT involved and the peers are overloaded. EDIT: Fritz! routers i would pick: \- 7590 AX v2 \- 7530 AX \- 4060 (req. a external modem) \- 7690 (IF you need Wifi7 for MLO, the 7690 does NOT have the 6GHz band) The 7590 (non AX) and 7490 are old by now, esp the 7490 (launch 2013).

Here in germany the FRITZ!Box 7590 AX is a well known router. Works perfect with pihole on rp4 in a home network with 30 devices.

I have a 7590 with my father's old 7490 as a mesh repeater in the basement. (The 7490 has somehow a broken DSL modem it seems, but still works flawless for anything else)

Im having issues with network jittering while gaming just started recently.. i have one of those 7590 bought 3-4 years ago.. how do i verify i got a faulty one and if i buy a new one is it automatically the improves version? Thanks in advance ! :)

7590 here. But it just blew its 2.4Ghz front end which i had to bodge up with an external Buck. Will go to a 5690 Pro if it ever gets released for the AU market.

I was still using my original 7390 when FTTP got rolled out here. Only upgraded to 7590 after one of the repeaters blew up.

There was an issue with a specific model (I think it was the 7590) where after 5 years the 2.4GHz WLAN chip burned through. So if every smart home device suddenly doesn't work anymore that is why. It should be fixed now but basically everyone who got one that was produced with the faulty chip had to by a new one without getting warranty.

For me the high pitch buzzing sound only started when the 2.4GHz stopped working. It didn't burn a lot though because I didn't use it for long when I noticed.

If it's about 5 years old or older and you can hear a high pitch sound. Yes.

The problems start with a high pitched buzzing noise. First you barely notice it and then it gets louder and louder until the chip burns. If you have experience with soldering, you can actually replace the faulty component and keep using it. The problem is not the wifi chip itself, it’s a capacitor or something similar that sits before it on the board. It wears down over the years and the wifi chip gets more and more voltage than it can bear until it finally burns. If the chip is already under too much stress it makes that noise. If you want a reason to replace the 7590 with a newer device, google photos of destroyed units, it’s absolutely frightening. When I researched why my 7590 made these noises and saw the photos I immediately exported all settings, unplugged it, ordered a new device and used my 5G mobile connection until the replacement arrived.

Yep, I had this model. If it starts a high pitched buzzing sound that gets louder from day to day, better replace it as soon as possible. Fortunately I researched the noise before it started to burn and the photos I saw were frightening (big holes burned into the board). Where Fritzboxes could be better would be the DNS server (you can define only one which is not that great if you want to run your own DNS at home for adblocking and local hostnames - if it fails you have no fallback nameserver). I also don’t understand why they don’t offer VLAN options, the functionality should be there with guest wifi. But apart from that, they are quite nice.

Be aware about that 2.4GHz WLAN Problem.of older 7590 models https://www.golem.de/news/fritzbox-7590-ursache-fuer-fruehzeitige-wlan-ausfaelle-vermutlich-gefunden-2505-196647.html#:~:text=Die%20Fritzbox%207590%20macht%20bei%20einigen%20Nutzern%20nach%20ein%20paar%20Jahren%20offenbar%20Probleme.

Waiiiit. My mother is using this model and the two 2.4GHz only devices lose wireless connectivity for up to a day at a time until they reconnect on their own. This is likely the issue, isn't it?

If you can wire APs with network cable, that's always the best option. Obviously buy the same type, Ideally with central management, like Unifi for example. But for many, running the cable is just too tricky. In a network engineer, but live in an old brick-built house with hardwood floors and plastered walls. So I do use a mesh system in my own house. My ISP provided a FritzBox AX router, so I bought matching FritzBox mesh repeaters. This means I can make the router Master, and the repeaters all slaves, so I can manage and monitor everything through the router management page. The mesh repeaters have an Ethernet socket, so in some locations (like my home office) I've got a network switch and some hard-wired networking. Most importantly, to my PC. Gives me a Gigabit connection to my router.