eero (Amazon) - Eero Max 7

I am in the minority here: but I'm super disappointed in mine. Coming from Eero Max 7. Best speeds I can get from it are 850/800. Eero maxes out my gigabit connection. And the range comparatively is also bad. Upstairs on my eero with my laptop on wifi 700 I can still damn near max out my gigabit. The dream machine itself barely gives me 300. So I thought: ok, 4x4 on 6ghz isn't fair vs 2x2. So I direct wired an Wall AP7 upstairs in the same room I test from... and at best I can get 650/600 on 6ghx/Wifi 7. I think I'm giving up and returning the Unifi equipment. I ABSOLUTELY HATE the eero and that I'm limited to an app for it and no real control. But I can't give up 30% performance even with dedicated AP's upstairs and downstairs. :(

Are you able to test your Wifi 7 speeds? Mine are slow as all hell. Like 150-300 down. My Eero max 7 pegs it at my provider speed of a gigabit. Overall all my wifi speeds seem way less than my Eero. I hate Eero and their app only control on it.... but I can't justify 25% of the wifi speeds just to have control.

I got an eero max 7 during Black Friday and it’s the best router I’ve ever had. I’m averaging 1200 down on my 1gig plan

I upgraded both of my houses to eero Max 7s and they are great. I WFH and my son games, so I was fine spending the extra money. I used to be able to tell if I was connected to gateway or one of the other nodes. Now, the wireless back haul is so fast, every place the connectivity is great.

My relative got several eero 7 max routers from her internet provider. They were very easy to set up (you do need to set up an account) and extremely fast. But they are very expensive!

Ha well the eero 7 max is awesome but I don’t know if I would buy it at $600 retail for each one. They got 3 for free from their internet provider!

I have the BGW 320-505 in passthrough mode with firewall and packet filters disabled that’s hardwired to 3 eero max 7’s with zero issues. I have a new 2 story 2,900 sq. Ft. with 95 devices.

I have 3 Cam2 Pro’s, 2 S3 Pro’s, 1 S330, and 1 E340 Doorbell with 1 Homebase 3. My WiFi is 3 eero Max 7’s and I haven’t had any issues

The Max 7 has no separate satellite by design. Only other Max 7 (or lower) to use as a satellite. You'll likely be OK with a single Max 7 for that space, and the drywall will be better for signal penetration than if you mentioned concrete, brick, etc. The radios in the Max 7 are far superior to the Pro 7 (range & link quality to clients), you get better options with the Max 7 regarding Ethernet ports for future use, and a single Max 7 is better than two Pro 7 with competing spectrum & added hops for clients on paper. Whatever you decide, make sure to place the gateway unit as high up in the room as possible without looking out of place, to avoid solid object interference.

The eero mesh system is pretty foolproof and great for users who don’t want to tinker. I highly recommend it for people who just want to plug their router in and forget it exists and maybe expand their mesh network as they need.

Eero max 7 is honestly overkill. Unless you think you’d someday have 10Gbps internet. Something like the pro7 is the sweet spot in the eero range. I’m hoping that some of the ISPs start to sell them soon as you can often get them way cheaper through them than a retailer. But right now they’re all still stocking the eero 6+ or the Pro 6e which are a generation behind. There’s a lot more options than the eeros of course. It’s just that eeros are pretty good value for money when you get them via the provider.

I've been on Eero for a number of years now upgrading to Max7's a year ago and its been rock solid for me and impressive throughput.

I've been super pleased with my Eero Max 7 based network that I've had over a year now.

I've been testing the Eero lineup against other competitors. The Max's are great but not that much better than the Pros. A lot of your performance will be up to capabilities of your client devices. Other comments about channel optimization are completely valid, Eero along with some others out there take a day or two to optimize their channel selection. It doesn't set a good impression on day one but gets better over time. Pricing wise I'd never spend what they're asking from retail on my own home network, but then again I'm spoiled from getting lots of free stuff working in the industry. The reality is, I haven't come across many situations where WiFi speeds are actually the root cause of issues on a given application in the home. Throughput testing is fun for easy bragging rights but I believe consistency and reliability are the most important parts of a good home wifi. Believe it or not, most high priced enterprise grade equipment will yield lower throughput tests than the retail home stuff, for good reason. They're tuned to service large numbers of clients with consistency, over servicing a few clients with truckloads of data. The reasoning behind this is, at a high level, if the CEOs web conference isn't silky smooth, nobody's gonna give a damn if it takes 5 extra minutes for a giant download to complete. They're tuned to deliver consistent and stable service as a priority, not drag race. Eero's new lineup has some of the best chips available in the industry, but IMO its overpriced. I do think performance will get better over time as newer clients become available and get better at using OFDMA(WiFi 6) and MLO(WiFi 7). 6GHz is a great addition but it's unfortunate that its optional for anything branded WiFi7, not mandatory. It's also at a disadvantage now with being locked in low power mode until we get a proper AFC system in place. That will allow them to unlock and operate at roughly twice the power levels they're limited to today in most scenarios. Making those extreme wide 320MHz channels work at higher rates through more walls. Sorry I got a little carried away there, dont know where I was headed 😅

Depending on your type of walls, you might get away with just 2 nodes. Eero Max 7 is one of the best mesh networks you'll get, if you have money to burn. Rtings list of best mesh routers has it as an honorable mention because of price, but they say "eero Max 7: The eero Max 7 is the best-performing router we've tested. It's a Wi-Fi 7 mesh router that's incredibly fast and maintains gigabit speeds nearly 100 feet away. However, we don't recommend it because it's incredibly expensive, and the TP-Link Deco BE63 delivers enough range and performance for most people." https://www.rtings.com/router/reviews/best/wifi-router It's stupid expensive, and configuration options aren't great (though that could be a good thing if you don't want to tinker and rather have it just work). They're also owned by Amazon (which I personally count as a negative, but that's subjective) and have a subscription for advanced things. But if you want speed and stability, it's a good option. The other option would be Firewalla AP7 https://firewalla.com/products/firewalla-ap7 Though it requires that you also have a firewalla firewall device(which is a great device, firewalla is fantastic). I would also caution against Asus routers. Their security is awful. Just this year they had a vulnerability with Ai cloud where your router could be hijacked and become part of a botnet https://youtu.be/7mKbH2-eLEg?si=3Pq0_glWNFOeOagK TP-link is even worse, with constant buffer overflow exploits that keep cropping up, even on new models. You can search the cve database for TP-link buffer overflow and see how it's something that's been affecting their routers for years https://www.cve.org/CVERecord/SearchResults?query=TP-link+buffer+overflow

4x4 MIMO is still advantageous even if all your devices are only 2x2 because the extra antennas can increase link quality and range ([source](https://www.wiisfi.com/#MIMO)). We tested the eero Max 7 (and all other routers) using a laptop with Intel's BE200 Wi-Fi 7 card, which is 2x2 MIMO, and still measured some pretty insane speeds (3310 Mbps). That said, the eero gives you basically no manual control and it took forever for us to get on the 320 MHz channel.

Get the max 7 !! U won’t be disappointed

Get an Eero Max7 3 pack and let that run the wifi for the entire house, that will work and you will be swimming in high quality, solid wifi.

IMO, I've always stuck with the Pro's and MAX's in the last 3 generations (7, 6 and "5"). I have over 190 devices and don't have drops on any of them and haven't since 2017.

That’s what I keep reading. I went to buy the orbi 870 and when getting to Best Buy I asked a rep there and just straight up told me “there is a reason why they are discounted $300 right now” and spent the next 15 minutes talking to the rep and reading reviews and I agree with OP. Every router according to reviewers is awesome or sucks. I do have experience with eero and haven’t had any issues which is why I went with the max, however lately I have seen my devices disconnect for a couple of minutes at least once per week, which has never happened before.

I would agree, I have 2gig fiber and upgraded from a 3 pack Orbi system (generation before the wifi7) and when I first installed the eero max7s my phone would switch to 6 and I didn't see much improvement. It's been a week and my phone stays on wifi 7 and I pull 1.2gb constantly now. All devices are humming along and overall coverage is good. Give it some beats and you should be good.

You're looking for a router that can run cake at your max bandwidth. Nanopi r6s running friendlywrt if you are technically inclined. Amazon eero max 7 or poe gateway if you aren't technical and want to pay for ease of use. Just make sure to turn on sqm in network settings.

I have an Eero Max 7 and Eero Pro 7 system and it works great.

Ah true. Then by all means, go bananas. Eero Max.

Hopefully you've not got a 5x so you can actually use modem mode. Depends how big your house is and what sort of price range you're looking at, but for the money (when they're reduced) the Eero Max 7 is a serious piece of kit that will last you for many years to come. They frequently reduce to £449 so wait if you plan to buy one!

I switched to Eero 7 stuff, running 2x Eero Max 7 and 2x Eero Outdoor 7 in AP only mode w/ UniFi UCG-Fiber for my router/gw. No regrets. SO MUCH more stable than the Orbi 770 with its hourly lag/packet loss issues. The roaming is second to none. I've tested it thoroughly and I'm impressed. I know it seems basic, but it's stable and seamless. Performance is roughly on par with the Wi-Fi devices I have at least. I pull 1.3-1.5 Gbps on 6 GHz Wi-Fi 6E, 2.2-2.3 Gbps on 5/6 GHz Wi-Fi 7 MLO, and somewhere between 900 and 1200 Mbps on 5 GHz Wi-Fi 6/6E (honestly not sure what that mode even is linking as standard wise, but that's on my outdoor APs). The wireless backhaul performance is not as strong but it's way more stable. I've got wired backhaul for my important segment anyway.

I was looking at UniFi but in the end went with the Eero Max 7’s. 2 of them are good, 3 mean zero slowdowns. The ease + built in thread network sold me and it’s future ready for when I want to run an Ethernet backhaul with the 10gbps ports. No subscription and no regrets so far.

You would get more from running a wire to the other access points. But if that’s not possible, putting a Max 7 down in the basement might provide stronger signal to the wireless APs. In my setup I have an Eero PoE Gateway in the basement with a mix of mostly wired Pro 6 and PoE 6

Good article on both. https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/routers/eero-pro-7-vs-eero-max-7 I have max 7 mesh (x2) at home and in my office I have 6E mesh. Home speed and reliability has been terrific vs my Fios routers. Work has been fairly good in my small office. Better than my old d-link which was 2.4 only. (Really old)

I would buy a single Eero max and centrally locate it in the home, and see what that does. You have an extremely demanding application, and you are very sensitive to performance issues with games, and you really want to buy the very best Wi-Fi router you can afford. The max 7 will last a long time, and I would highly recommend sticking to that model. The pro will do OK, but the max will really do what you want.

Not too big of a house. You haven’t mentioned whether you can wire the access points together, that makes a big difference. If you want to do something now, an eero max 7 and one or two pro 7s are quick, reliable, but not very flexible if you like to tinker. If you like to tinker, Ubiquity would be an option. A dream machine with a few WiFi 7 access points is an option; I’d consider waiting if you want to go this route. Ubiquity tends to release new products fairly often and their WiFi 7 options aren’t great at the moment. All the typical residential brands (netgear, asus, google fi, tp link, etc) have offerings but I wouldn’t use any of them because they may work great for some people (who will, no doubt reply to this to confirm), but they don’t work really well for most people.

If you’re going to buy eero, get either Pro 7 or Max 7 access points. That size house might take 3 of them. As people are saying, hardwired backhaul is better than wireless, but the wireless with eero is pretty darn good.

I have eero max 7 and they max out my speeds and do great at device management. 1.93 GB on wifi 7. They are not cheap though

Two eero 7 max

Most mesh systems take a few days to adjust and will move channels until it finds the best scenario. Netgear orbi’s do this as well as the eero systems. But once there fully optimized they should be set it and forget it and just work. Speed fluctuations are normal but I did find the eero did have less speed than my netgear with identical locations and settings. So I reset the eero from scratch and then the speed was where it needed to be. I believe it has something to do with firmware as I get the feeling the updates don’t always go well with some older firmware lingering after the upgrade. Reset seems to clear it out

Eero max 7 and maybe get an eero outdoor as well pricey but will give you max coverage

The eero max 7 will smoke the UDR7 any day in terms of hardware and performance.

I think folks that have commented already missed the point that you're not tech-savvy and do not way to deal with complicated setup/ troubleshooting. I would avoid Ubiquiti. It's a great product and I use it. But it requires network know-how the set it up and maintain it. I would recommend Eero. It's a solid performer and designed for the person that isn't tech-savvy and does not want to tinker with the network. Eero has probably the best mesh products on the market today. Depending on your layout/ needs, you could go PoE Gateway + PoE 6 APs. Great for ceiling AP locations. I also use this setup. Alternatively, you can use Max 7 or Pro 6E. Avoid 6/6+ models from Eero.

I think folks that have commented already missed the point that you're not tech-savvy and do not way to deal with complicated setup/ troubleshooting. I would avoid Ubiquiti. It's a great product and I use it. But it requires network know-how the set it up and maintain it. I would recommend Eero. It's a solid performer and designed for the person that isn't tech-savvy and does not want to tinker with the network. Eero has probably the best mesh products on the market today. Depending on your layout/ needs, you could go PoE Gateway + PoE 6 APs. Great for ceiling AP locations. I also use this setup. Alternatively, you can use Max 7 or Pro 6E. Avoid 6/6+ models from Eero.

This is a good recommendation. Eero for simple, plug and play with probably one of the best mesh networks in market today. Ubiquiti if you want more configuration capabilities and have more network know-how.

If you have ethernet cabling between floors, use that as much as possible. If not, then it is mesh. One of the best mesh systems on the market is Eero. Solid and super easy to setup and use. That's what I use. You can start with one and only add more devices as you need them. But don't oversaturate your wifi. That creates wifi interference which leads to performance issues.

Yep, probably overreacting. IMHO, Amazon's purchase puts it into the same vein with AWS' security protocols. There's been some negative comments passed around about Eero that are unfounded. It's been a good product before and after Amazon's purchase. Could it be better? Sure. Do I wish their updates had more insights similar to how Ubiquiti details each update? Absolutely! But for a plug and play device, it is a solid performer. There are a couple of models I'd stay away from (6, 6+, 7). But the 6 Pro, 6E Pro, PoE 6, Pro 7 and Max 7 are all good products. The PoE Gateway is also a really good product.

Interesting idea, but I don't know any wifi solutions (other than getting to the Ubiquiti level) that will get you multi-gigabit rates via wifi. And not via mesh. Eero is a good solution with the Max 7 for higher speeds and solid mesh performance...but not 10Gbps across wireless. I'd probably recommend considering the PoE Gateway as the connection to your ISP. That would be my recommendation for a mesh-based solution with a 10Gbps uplink to your ISP. You could do Ubiquiti w/ the UCG Fiber, USW Pro XG 8 PoE switch and (3) U7 Pro XG APs for about the same cost as three Eero 7 Max. But then you have the issue of cabling to the APs. Keep in mind that unless you're hosting a bunch of servers, doing a bunch of massive file transfers regularly, you're not going to see much of a difference between 1Gbps and 10Gbps. And making the jump in equipment costs from support 1+Gbps to a full 10Gbps backplane is a significant uptick on costs. My point: I'm not sure you will see the value. So... food for thought.

One of the best mesh systems on the market is the Eero technology. It just works. It is more plug and play and does not require much to setup. Depending on the needs, look at them in this order: Max 7, Pro 7, Pro 6E, Pro 6. I would not recommend the other models of 7 and 6.

I'd recycle your existing cable modem and get a newer Arris Surfboard modem that is a) approved by your ISP, b) handles the bandwidth you're contracted for and c) is just a modem. Not wifi, router, etc. Then get a separate router/ wifi system. If you're looking at plug and play and need mesh, then Eero is a great solution. If you want more configurability and control to manual change settings in your network, then Ubiquiti is a great option. I use both.

Agreed that Eero is probably the best mesh product on the market today. I'd tweak the list just slightly depending on what is more important. Max 7, then Pro 7 then Pro 6E. The Eero 7 is only a dual band device. It gives you Wifi 7, but only 2.4 and 5GHz. The Pro 6E is a tri-band device that only gives you wifi 6, but also gives you 6GHz.

Eero Max 7 and two Pro 7’s here (testing for when), and they wirelessly outperform my BGW620 (latest WiFi 7 gateway from AT&T that replaced my BGW320-505). The eero’s give me WiFi speeds of at least 1600 Mbps everywhere, vs max of 1200 Mbps wireless with the 620 (BGW320 maxed out at 1 Gbps wireless). I also get great coverage outside and inside my 2700 square foot home.

Don't use the 6E as your gateway but keep it as an extender. It has two ethernet ports, one 2.5G + one 1G, which would throttle your network if you use it as a gateway, but works well as a repeater in a remote room or low utility area 7 Pro or Max would make an excellent gateway. Add a few multi-gig or gigabit switches where needed TP-Link has a lot of compatibility issues among their devices. Archer won't work with Deco or Omada. Most of their routers support Matter but other IoT protocols are hit or miss. They also may get banned by the US for security reasons [Compatibility List | TP-Link](https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/compatibility-list/) I chose eero over ASUS because the eero 7 Max beats their best routers both on hardware specs and ASUS lacks support for IoT protocols like Matter, Thread, Zigby, & Bluetooth

Recently I upgraded my ISP service to 2 gig and I also upgraded my Wifi Router to the eero 7 max. It is working very well for me. We have two 2.5gb ports and two 10gb ports. I don't have a use for the 10gb ports yet, but I have one of the 2.5 ports going to a 2.5 unmanaged switch, and I have my macbook and my Synology DS423+ with DSM 7.2.2-72806 Update 4 connected to the switch via three 2.5gbe ethernet adapters. It is very fast that way!

Over the past 9 or 10 years, I have used various iterations of eero across multiple homes. They've all worked fine so long as you don't need a lot of sophisticated controls. Eero's hallmark feature is its ease of use and overall stability. It won't be the absolute fastest, nor have the most features. The mobile app is straightforward and simple. If you have one long apartment, consider an eero Max 7. So long as you can get line-of-sight access to it, it should suffice. I currently use 2 x eero Max 7 with wired backhaul; if you have to do wireless, it's not bad, just won't be as snappy as wired. Check out Amazon, believe they're on sale now. The eero Pro 7 are also quite good. I bought a pair for my parents' 3-level house and they've been quite performant, much better than the 6+.

Main Eero Max7 on my cell via wifi. I have symmetrical fiber with Windstream. I pay for 500mpbs. My upload usually sucks because I have 8 Nest Cams all set on high.

Oh and SQM is turned off.

I use Eero Max 7’s too and agree it’s way better than the AT&T equipment.

Budget? Size of apt? Eero Pro 6E or Eero Max 7. If small apartment likely only need one. Set it and forget it solution that will give you gig wired and closest you can get over wifi. Can’t expect gig over wifi fyi. Would be chasing something that’s likely not worth it Remember 1 4K stream uses 25Mbps, 1/40th of your connection so you’ll be more than enabled. Keep the eero out of the closet — make sure it’s clear of obstructions. It helps

Both will cover. Pick based on price - there are a ton of other options but eero is set it and forget it and just works You don’t need their monthly service to enjoy the benefits of the platform. They’ll try to upsell you

ATT Fiber + Eero Max 7- this is the setup I have and it’s just plain incredible.

You don't mention a price. To temper expectations here, there's no Wi-Fi system mesh or using ethernet backhaul that will consistently get you gig speeds for multiple devices.... At least not at distance and let's not even talk about through anything. With that said, out of all of the currently available consumer oriented mesh systems in the US, the Eero Max 7 has been great in testing. It's not always the fastest in throughput. But the connections have been more stable and with consistently low latency compared to other systems like Orbi and Google. If you are looking for something more capable in terms of network insight, Firewalla has added WiFi 7 desktop/table APs to their eco system. I haven't personally tested their APs. But people seem to generally rank them near the Eero Max 7 in terms of performance. Firewalla would be more prosumer, but it's still easy enough and primarily controlled with a cell phone app like most of the other consumer mesh systems. For prosumer single pane management you have Unifi, TPLink Omada and Aruba Instant On (100% cloud based controller). Unifi has a big fanboi base. I'm a recovering Unifi fanboi, sober for a couple years now. I'd personally go Omada in this space if only because they use better socs, Qualcomm (Omada) vs Mediatek (Unifi). The other issue with Unifi is their software is pretty much always in a beta state unless you stay quite a few releases behind and that release you are staying on is fully functional for you.

YES!!! Spectrum router is not that great. I pay for 1 gig and I wasn't even getting it 900 mbps. I got the eero 7 max and now I'm getting over 1.1 gigs

Are you hardwired together? You will never achieved perfect throughput without running Ethernet. eero mesh is good but all mesh systems will never compete with hardwired in. I have the Poe gateway plus two eero pros 7 and two max’s. Hardwired. Get full bandwidth almost in every spot in my house. Spend a weekend running Ethernet. My house is 300 years old and I did it. Best decision ever

Personally, I would set the Verizon router in bridge mode and let eero do the heavy lifting. That chipset in the MAX is 🔥. Eero does CAKE up to a gig too. That verzion router probably your issue. But in terms of topology. eero has to be at the top for bridge which is what you have.

I just swapped from TP-Link BE11000 to the Eero Max 7. Which Eero are you using? My entire network is ethernet backhauled. My trouble was compatibility outdoor Deco units and the BE11000 ethernet backhaul bugs. I had engineering tickets and night sessions with them via TeamViewer where they were reviewing the network for 4 months. I’ve probably given them 10-12 hours at least if my time. They acknowledged that the system had issues with stopping the wireless backhaul all the time and would cause jumps between wireless to wired if both were options. The most recent firmware was part of the betas that I was working with them on. Still had issues with clients being online in Deco without IPs, without MACs, or showing online and not being able to connect. Eero 7s just had a deal at Best Buy for buy 3 get 1 free for 1200. Worked flawlessly from setup and haven’t had to tweak the system at all. There’s still multiple bugs across Deco devices that I think they spread themselves too thin. Their backend architecture isn’t that strong. What’s the performance you’re seeing? iPhone 14 chips are missing 6GHz but otherwise should function pretty well on the Eero 6 and above. How do your channels look on the busyness and background noise? Ethernet are you getting full speed on the nodes?

You could spend thousands of dollars on wireless equipment and still fall short of the connection speed and quality of a 1 gigabit ethernet link If you need a Wi-Fi only solution, you’re looking at mesh. Eero Pro Max is extremely capable — 2-3 of these, ideally with mostly clear lines of sight between them, would give you fantastic coverage. A lot of Wi-Fi is also limited by sharing wireless bandwidth, and each node in a mesh network ideally needs a different frequency. We have had great results with having only two access points on opposite ends of our apartment, connected by Ethernet. There are thin Ethernet cables you can run along baseboards that aren’t very ugly.

Consider eero outdoor WiFi 7 AP and their WiFi 6e or 7 mesh. It'll work for indoor and outdoor for years to come.

Very easy to install you go into the app and add a node. Stay with eero preferably a 6 or higher. Don’t buy off eBay or fb marketplace. People are selling isp owned eeros … you have a 50 50 chance it gets shut down. Only exception I would make is if you and the eBay/fbm eero uses the same isp. (You’re on frontier and the eero is locked to frontier)

There really is no one Wifi router that will penetrate all walls and building materials and give you a giant bubble of Wifi. As far as signal strength goes, they are about the same. For the best experience on a budget and easy to set up, mesh is typically the go to, like Deco or Eero. Running a wire between the two or more for wired backhaul will make it even better better.

Mesh networking is the key. We have Sonic Fiber and Eero nodes around the house and it's awesome.

Yeah... the literal plug n play is worth a lot unless you're doing large data xfer for work or something. The second hand Eero repeaters are so cheap you can sprinkle them liberally too

Eero does 500mbps over WiFi, it’s hands down one of the best and easiest to manage. After 6 years of using it for all my security cameras and IoT it’s basically pointless to run CAT cable throughout a house in today’s world. Most people don’t need Gig network running throughout a house, it’s irrelevant Anyone saying don’t do mesh is honestly an idiot. Most probably live in an apartment or small house or just have know clue what you need vs what you want. I have 3 wireless cameras on my deck, 2 on my garage, one on my door, 2 inside my home. Including the other random 70 devices throughout my basement (movie room), office (2nd floor) in a 3500sqft home and have literally zero issues, from stream live security streams, streaming movies, gaming doesn’t matter Zero reason to not have a mesh setup in 95% of setups… plan and simple Especially when you can do outdoor mesh setups with companies like Ubiquity but unless you need outdoor internet to throw it to a barn or something… most get the job done just fine, like eero

On an android phone, you can download am app called WifiAnalyzer, it has a white wifi symbol and a green background. Itll tell you how many networks are in your area and should give an idea of if this is truly the wifi going out or just being talked over. Id also say to go into the routers gui and split the 2.4/5g bands and see if one gives better signal than the other, as most modern routers mesh them together via "smart connect" or similar language. A factory reset of the router is a last resort before simply buying a new one, as you don't really mechanically fix components in consumer routers anymore, they're too cheap. I like tp-links Archer series for a new simple router, and suggest Amazon's EERO if you want to get a meshed routing system for better coverage

Eero mesh with the outdoor unit on the main house probably.

Get eero or Tplink, you'll be fine. I went through 2 Google mesh systems and now leave them alone. BTW you don't need the wifi 7 or even 6E. Save some money unless you have Gigabit internet, then go crazy.

We have a basic ASUS router with eero mesh, but in-office WiFi is still better. That’s one of the actual upsides of 3-4 day RTO.

I've been very happy with eero, but if I were to do it today, I'd pick the new tp-link WiFi 7 mesh system.

Put in the eero system for mesh WiFi

I would recommend a wireless mesh system. I had Orbi in a 2400 sq ft 3 level home (1 router, 2 satellite units) and Eero in a 2 story 3100 sq ft home (1 router, 1 satellite unit).

I got Eero mesh. Zero problems

Eero can do a decent job if you are absolutely against wiring in access points. Just temper your expectations. The access points that are furthest away from the gateway will have slower speeds than the access points that are closer to the gateway. Your house’s type of construction will also play role in performance.

As long as the two nodes are hardwired together it will be great. If you have one where the isp comes in and run an Ethernet cord to his pc area you can put a switch there and plug in his pc and another eero.

Eero works great.

I use amazon Eero. You can get 3 of them for less than $400. My only crit is that they make it hard to set static IP and port forwarding on your home network (not impossible, but the UI is clunky), and that they don't support Dynamic DNS services (at least mine doesn't). For what it's worth, you'd probably only need 2 devices in a small townhouse. One upstairs and one downstairs.

Same here. Bridge mode + Eero mesh routers.

Eero is pretty good. it has both 2.4 and 5 ghz. mesh networking, with ethernet backhaul, so you get super strong signal everywhere. including the bathrooms lol. easy to set up as seen here [https://youtu.be/ooGnTxTXmRg](https://youtu.be/ooGnTxTXmRg)

Simplest solution is something like Eero mesh routers. They also make an outdoor unit… so you can do something like put an Eero router in the main house, an outdoor unit in your patio or backyard, and then one in the guest house, and the signal should hop from main house > patio > guest house just fine.

Sonic. And get a good mesh system. Sonic actually provided some eero routers when I first signed up with them years ago if you don’t want to DIY it (though it’s worth the extra effort imo)

Here is my recommendation, get a the modem/router combo from your ISP it will more than likey be just fine for your needs as long as you get high enough speeds. Download speed is good, but upload speed is the important factor. The more upload you have the better you are going to be. You are going to connect hardwired so most of the time these combo units have 4 ports already on them. If you need to go beyond that and want to build a wifi mesh at a lower price I might suggest EERO as the first option. EERO is user friendly, easy to setup, solid connections, the app does everything you would need. There are a few others out there as well some less complex some more complex.

I’ve tried every single WiFi google nest router(google WiFi, nest WiFi, nest WiFi pro) and out of them they all had slow speeds. I ended up getting the eero mesh system and those work flawlessly

Got to be a mesh. At that size it’s almost worth commercial but then you need an msp to manage it. I would recommend ASUS or ubiquiti but both need a level of tech savvy to configure and run. Eero if you want easy and simple and low ability to run custom configuration.

The Amazon Eros are a great product. As the owner of FixIT Computer and Tech in Port Angeles / Sequim WA I install these frequently, mesh Wi-Fi systems are definitely the way to go, stay away from the simple boosters, they can cause problems.

just get another EERO. why TF would u want a wifi extender?

how big is the house. i like the modem, but would look at EERO mesh instead.

ive deployed 250+ EERO mesh set ups. They work flawlessly for a set it and forget it internet experience.

Orbi def best in market, next best is the google mesh, then Mby Eero mesh system… saw a lot of decco recommendations… they work alright but def lower in the ranks and way cheaper

Eero is a good choice for beginners. You may only need one but you can add multiple to make a longer range mesh network

Depends on what it is. My ISP sent Amazon's Eero mesh system, and that was terrible. Constantly dropping out. I bought my own Deco units and haven't had a problem since.

Idk since it was free. They came with the Fios setup kit in 2023. I messed with them for a year and gave up. Not reliable enough for WFH.

Depends on what it is. My ISP sent Amazon's Eero mesh system, and that was terrible. Constantly dropping out. I bought my own Deco units and haven't had a problem since.

Idk since it was free. They came with the Fios setup kit in 2023. I messed with them for a year and gave up. Not reliable enough for WFH.

I have two eeros with wireless backhaul, which is suboptimal, and there is a noticeable moment as I go down the stairs and switch APs when the connection drops. For example Plex playback (on the new app) pauses for a couple of seconds, facetime calls drop for a second, wifi icon on phone shows connection strength to AP 1 falling and then improving with AP 2.

I have an eero mesh system for near a decade and it is pretty solid and fast.

No it’s a good router! I’ve got it and so good the app is good too

Great feedback I work for Spectrum and I myself use eero mesh

I have an Eero mesh system. It's been great

I am definitely no techie or expert on the subject, but when our old router died, I replaced it with Eero mesh. Not only have I had no problems with it, but our internet speed became faster than what I am paying for with Spectrum.

Lol what are you talking about? They both have “wireless only backbones”, AKA mesh networking. Unifi has a billion more features over eero and gives you a lot of granularity. I’d say go with eero if you want something that is simple and works well out of the box, and Unifi if you want to learn and tinker.

If you're not switching to 2gig service now, why replace the cable modem?  Money you don't need to spend.  And of course if you get the fiber service, a cable modem is useless. And then what problem are you trying to solve with the router/WiFi replacement?  In general, unifi is great if you can backhaul the nodes with an Ethernet cable.  It doesn't have a dedicated mesh radio unlike some of the systems designed for that. A 5 port 2.5gbe switch is $50, so if you want to connect your gaming rigs that might work.  If you wanted mesh system recommendations, orbi and eero would get my vote over Asus.  And then WiFi 7 is generally expensive and doesn't actually get you much over WiFi 6 if you don't have the clients to use it -- and phones don't need the speed.  

I agree with this. I have setup three Eero mesh systems for family members. They are super easy to setup and maintain. It has been set it and forget it for over three years now. These are installed in houses with users who are 65+.

Since you have cable Internet and it runs into the basement, you hopefully have coaxial cables available to you throughout the house, and usually in key locations. Just look at the area where all the coax ends should meet, likely in the basement where your modem/router is at and plugged into. If you do find this bunch of coax, you can use it with MoCA Adapters to build a wired Ethernet network inside your home. If you can achieve that, then getting good WiFi everywhere will be easy, as well as providing wired capabilities for other devices in needed locations. MoCA Adapters can be a bit expensive, but worth the cost. If you can build this MoCA network, then whatever you choose as the router and Access Points will work very well, including a 3 pack of a reputable mesh brand. For mesh, I use and can recommend eero. But ASUS Zen mesh is also praised a lot, and has more configurability. If you want to go higher end, you can get an Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway router, a Ubiquiti PoE switch, and some Ubiquiti Access Points. It's more expensive, but very capable of advanced setups, and is very stable. I use Ubiquiti at another home and in my office location, and I can recommend them personally as well.

Wireless MESH are great now. I do all of the same stuff you do and EERO works just fine.

Single story, you’ll probably need a mesh. Eero is good and simple to setup. There are others too ‘mesh routers’.

Be aware. I like my eero mesh. But it's a whiplash going from a router that has a management console I can access internally without Internet and have logs and history data to eero. Without Internet you cannot access the management of your network , you can only access via phone app with account no IP or web page. And some features are blocked behind a paywall like for example going to a list of which devices consume more data on a day and so on. I might change from eero to another brand in the future based on it but for a no frills, turn on and forget eero might be your better choice.

Eero with 3 points 2200 sq feet

Get some decent Mesh WiFi - Netgear Orbi/Amazon Eero - with private WiFi backhaul - ideally hardwired if you really can.. That should sort out your use case and be fairly simple on the install.

Hubby and I live in a 1953 ranch house in a subdivision that dates to that time period. Cell reception stinks tho internet options are plentiful. I tried wireless, but the walls were a mix of drywall and plaster. There was very old coax running through the house that was useless. I first tried the eero mesh system, but after a while, it had to be reset every night. I then ended up with a Linksys 6 system, but it started having problems after awhile. I broke down about 8 years ago and had a fiber network installed while I still had Verizon Fios. I really thought about it - where the drops should go and why they were going in those locations. Verizon was fond of coax cable at the time. Their bills became outrageous and I switched to a different provider that worked with fiber. Bless that company’s heart. (RCN/Astound). No difficulties at all and the bills remain under $100/month. It is worth it to install the fiber network. Look on Thumbtack or Angie’s list or wherever. Have a plan first. Consider getting the highest level fiber you can get so when higher speed internet becomes available you are capable of managing it. Or you can run your own fiber and use unmanaged switches. The original mistake I made was putting in cat 5 fiber. I had to have the fiber replaced for some rooms but not all. I now have a ubiquity network but it is complicated and not easy. I also have smart switches, outlets, smart electric panels, solar panels and some appliances are smart, but smart appliances are over rated, unless they cook or clean for you. I keep wishing for Rosie the Robot or a good android out of the iRobot movie. So my network has over 100 items and always expanding. I had a mesh system but I found it so frustrating. It was a dummy system and if there were latencies I couldn’t tell where they were - service provider or in-network. I was constantly tinkering with the apps, which could tell me nothing.

Hubby and I live in a 1953 ranch house in a subdivision that dates to that time period. Cell reception stinks tho internet options are plentiful. I tried wireless, but the walls were a mix of drywall and plaster. There was very old coax running through the house that was useless. I first tried the eero mesh system, but after a while, it had to be reset every night. I then ended up with a Linksys 6 system, but it started having problems after awhile. I broke down about 8 years ago and had a fiber network installed while I still had Verizon Fios. I really thought about it - where the drops should go and why they were going in those locations. Verizon was fond of coax cable at the time. Their bills became outrageous and I switched to a different provider that worked with fiber. Bless that company’s heart. (RCN/Astound). No difficulties at all and the bills remain under $100/month. It is worth it to install the fiber network. Look on Thumbtack or Angie’s list or wherever. Have a plan first. Consider getting the highest level fiber you can get so when higher speed internet becomes available you are capable of managing it. Or you can run your own fiber and use unmanaged switches. The original mistake I made was putting in cat 5 fiber. I had to have the fiber replaced for some rooms but not all. I now have a ubiquity network but it is complicated and not easy. I also have smart switches, outlets, smart electric panels, solar panels and some appliances are smart, but smart appliances are over rated, unless they cook or clean for you. I keep wishing for Rosie the Robot or a good android out of the iRobot movie. So my network has over 100 items and always expanding. I had a mesh system but I found it so frustrating. It was a dummy system and if there were latencies I couldn’t tell where they were - service provider or in-network. I was constantly tinkering with the apps, which could tell me nothing.

If you’re looking for mesh then Eero is the best. Otherwise ASUS is the best brand !

What you need to do is return the Spectrum router and save yourself $10 a month for the router WiFi monthly fee. The modem is free so you can keep that. Now what I would suggest for your WIFI Signal issues is to get something called a “Mesh WiFi system” these are meant for larger homes 3000+ sq ft and are best for coverage/range and speeds ! Eero is the best in my opinion for a mesh WiFi system !

It’s really not a true mesh system rather an extender to the existing routers signal. What I would suggest is you get a true mesh router system to get the best performance ! I highly recommend Eero as a mesh router as those are super reliable and easy to setup !

Forget the Spectrum router .. go to Best Buy and buy a mesh system like Eero. A 2 pack would be good for your situation !

I went to my local Best Buy and they stopped selling it or getting stock due to this ban (The store manager told me) . I'm in NY if that matters .. This was about a month ago . I guess buying them online is the only option , but then again if it does get Banned then TP Link will just disable it via a firmware update and you are left with a brick .. ASUS is way superior or Eero for Mesh systems !

Gotcha. Get your favorite Eero or Google mesh router and roll with it

Hardwire your house and add a WAP on second floor ceiling. We retrofit lots of houses for hardwire and teach clients to just use WIFI for portable devices, IOT’s and mobile phones. Hardwire all TVs, computers and network devices that can be hardwired. MESH is just a bandaid that has lots of loss when going from one AP to the other. You can use Eero and it will work like a charm.

I use eeros for my mesh wifi and it works great with my OPNSense setup. I just dropped it into bridge mode. I physically segregate my LAN / Home WIFinetwork from my Guest and IoT via a 4 port nic and Firewall rules. My IoT stuff runns off a Nighthawk and the Guest also runs off another Nighthawk. BOth running OpenWRT firmware since stock is garbage and insecure.

Now I'm not expert, but for me the eero routers have awful wifi signal. I can't even get 200mbps over 2 meters away 😐

I use a eero mesh system. Easy to use and administer

I’ve had Eero for 4 years , 4 pods spread around, never had an issue, always stable , you can see all devices on the app with signal strength, would recommend.

For the average consumer, Eero is a much better fit though. Sure, if you like to tinker or have one off use cases, Unifi is the much better option, but Eero does a great job of providing a product that just works without ever really needing to touch it. I've had Asus, Netgear, Linksys, TP-Link, Google WiFi, and Eero, but I've had meshing issues with all except for Eero. My current setup is Unifi with Eero in bridge mode.

EERO Mesh and 2 EERO outdoor nodes.

Many routers will "turn off" 5gig or separate the bands. I'm not sure what exact Google router you have, but a quick Google on "disable 5gig Google router" looks like it might? Just add in a specific model in the search and see. But yeah most modern dual/tri band routers and mesh wifi will let you turn it off or disable so you can connect. I have Eero mesh routers and it temporarily disabled 5gig for 10 minutes so that you can connect devices. Once it turns back on, they stay connected and all is good

Spend the money on an eero mesh router if you’re in a house. Worth every penny.

Neither, install a mesh network, I recommend eero lately

Eero is pretty easy.

eero and tp link DECO units are gonna be the best options. i can’t believe no one has said this but orbi has very good options. i have tried tp links one mesh and it has a lot of problems. if your a gamer i wouldn’t buy one tp link router and then have wall access points. get a actual mesh set up as if you want best overall speeds EVERYWHERE then get mesh. deco have very nice, cheap and reliable options, eero is more expensive but has a lot more extensive security settings and parental controls which i do believe is included with the piece if you add there subscription. the biggest thing eero has is, SQM which basically takes network debloating and latency and somehow it fixes it. which is very good for wireless connectivity between mesh devices as if you connected to one satellite mesh network you’ll see a upload latency increase. i think in general the best bang for your buck is tp link. and best overall is orbi. the reason i love orbi is my parents bought the rbr750 or something but it was 6 years ago and it’s still giving the speeds they paid for and still is getting firmware updates. eero is the in between because there a little less than most of the orbi systems i would suggest but have just any the same amount of features. so to sum it up eero is middle ground, orbi is the best, tp link is best bang for buck. hope this helps!

I just bought an eero mesh system and never looked back.

Yup. The extra cost is that each device is a full blown WiFi router but can easily switch into a mesh style distributed wireless setup. It'll handle everything. If you can wire them to each other, it's as good as having just one really big/strong WiFi signal. Wire them as physically far apart as you wish to extend the WiFi wherever too. If they aren't wired then just be weary and place the nodes with at least an 80% signal back to the primary node. And look into turning your ATT box WiFi off, and set-up "IP-Passthtough" so the eero is dominant.

Eero was pretty easy to set up, if you want a mesh network

So, this is going to be controversial, but despite the fact I have no problems with my Google WiFi mesh (touch wood immediately!), I don't recommend it for people buying mesh today, and if I were to replace my setup today it would be for Eero - it's got so much at this stage it's better to go there instead of Nest.

I would start with the one I had. At home I have an eero mesh in bridge mode, if you want small. You can use just one.

I have a tri-level home with 3 Eero units. I have the base unit next to my AT&T fiber gateway on the upper floor, one in a receptacle bracket in my dining room on the middle floor and one in my garage on the bottom floor at the opposite end of the dining room unit. I'm using wifi only to connect all three and have no gaps in coverage. I have wifi cameras on the front, back and each end of the house and one out on my storage shed about 75 feet from the house. I can walk anywhere on my property and have no less than 40 to 45% signal strength.

I have everything off on the AT&T gateway and have it on pass-through. One of the eeros sits next to the AT&T gateway. I initially tried the AT&T Airties units they lease out to most people and they were horrible to use. They didn't hand off when you were moving from one area to the other and their speed and coverage were half that of the eero units.

I think Eero would be the most plug and play option. I've used TP-Link and they're decent but unclear political situation / possible ban. Ubiquiti/Unifi if you want to tinker and manage their network remotely (expensive)

Eero mesh will do the trick. I have about the same distance but my house and shop are both concrete block with metal roofs and it works great. Can stream movies etc no problem.

Any type of mesh WiFi systems with 3 pods will work wonderful. Most popular is Eero and you don't even need the latest newest generation. Only thing you need to make sure is the base for the mesh has open wired connection for the one wired work computer or that your cable modem has an extra port or more.

Att equipment is utter junk. Eeros will absolutely work better. Like others said if you can wire in as many as possible it will drastically help. Plus eero tech support is pretty good and would help you figure out some dead spots and how to combat them (with more eeros of course 😉) Send that ATT crap back to the peddlers. The only thing their routers are good for is pass through. However I am sure they will remove that feature before long. It's all about the data, and pass through removes a chunk of data for them to access.

Your responses... Why, why do you think this? Why is the Spectrum WiFi pod an extender here?

Not following what you are saying. Anyways... an extender is a combo radio with fronthaul and backhaul in one unit. This is the garbage method to extend coverage for a WiFi network as it will reduce your effective throughput by half (the radio has to talk to the client then talk to the upstream access point it has joined to as a client).  A "mesh" router is when the fronthaul and backhaul radios are on different bands or radios. The Spectrum WiFi pod has WiFi 5 fronthaul (pod to client) and WiFi 6 backhaul (pod to upstream router). This is exactly how Eero works.  Spectrum will have a WiFi 7 router behaving as a mesh unit available as a product in early 2026. The pod will be dropped and performance & coverage will be a massive enhancement. tl;dr - Spectrum WiFi pods and Eero exist in the same product space. The Spectrum WiFi pod is NOT an extender where FH/BH are shared and throughput is reduced by half (what OP was asking).

I agree with you. I have openers on a ubiquity edge router x. And then run a eero mesh from that. Yes my wireless is not openwrt but my dns is. I did a trial 1gbps service from my hfc ISP and found the router could only manage 800mbps.

I agree with you. I have openers on a ubiquity edge router x. And then run a eero mesh from that. Yes my wireless is not openwrt but my dns is. I did a trial 1gbps service from my hfc ISP and found the router could only manage 800mbps.

I use Deco work which is fairly lightweight traffic and eero at home with massive traffic. I haven't maxed out the eeros but haven't put the Decos to that same test. The eeros come back online and reconnect to everything much faster than the Decos. I like eero app way better.

You can upgrade your network to a mesh system something like eero, retrofit an outdoor eero aim it at the guest house and add an eero inside the guest house to have WiFi inside.

Go for a mesh Wi-Fi system like Deco or Eero. Put one in the laundry, one in the office, and use your Ethernet outlets for best speed. Perfect for gaming, streaming, and big households.

Look at TP-Link Deco or Eero. Both are solid mesh options. With 2 floors and a basement, a mesh system with wired backhaul (if you can run Ethernet) will give you the best performance. You can always start wirelessly and run cables later if needed. Just make sure whatever you get supports Wi-Fi 6. It'll handle gaming, streaming, and working better than anything else.

I have a eero WiFi mesh and a ubiquity network switch for anything that needs to be wired. I have had the setup for the last 3 years no complaints

I have a eero WiFi mesh and a ubiquity network switch for anything that needs to be wired. I have had the setup for the last 3 years no complaints

Eeros are a mesh system so you can either A) plug the main one into the Fios ONT, and the others only need power. They will communicate to the main one wirelessly, or B) the satellite units have ethernet running back to the main unit. This gives better connectivity between the Eero units, just not a must.