eero (Amazon) - eero Pro 6E

You will not have advantage of 2gb fiber connection with 6e. Even if you connect 6e to isp with 2.5gb port, second port is only 1gb. I recommend hardwire all mesh nodes if it's possible. Unlikely that nodes able to handle more then 500-800 wireless connection for a long time

Idk why you got down voted but I spent about 160 bucks to get two TP-Link Deco XE70 Pro from Amazon to replace my Eero Pro 6e +extender. I also have increased speeds and range. From my research seems like best bang for the buck. That being said the 300 bucks package here is alright if you want to stay in the same ecosystem. Not a crazy deal, but if you need it, you need it.

Don’t over engineer it. Get the 6E.

Absolutely, I've had every generation of Google/nest mesh systems, with varying results and bad coverage outside to my RV and back patio. Also random dropouts and disconnects throughout my home. I bought the eero 6e system and it is so much more stable than anything I experienced with Google mesh. Even before adding my outdoor 7 AP I was getting so much more coverage around my yard. Now with the 7 outdoor added it's amazing! Super stable and great coverage.

Ok then get 2 of them, if you are not going to hardwire from one end of the house to another you need strong wireless backhaul, you can try Pro 6e but if you want the best, Max 7s have superior range. Solid reliable wifi requires a one time investment, up to you.

Even if it’s the Nest PRO model, I wouldn’t buy it. The Nest Pro and Nest Wi‑Fi are limited by their one‑gigabit Ethernet ports, which means they can’t take full advantage of faster internet speeds. In contrast, the Amazon Eero Pro 6E, with a 2.5GB Ethernet port which usually runs around $230 for a single unit, comes with a multi‑gigabit Ethernet port that better future‑proofs your network. (even though Google says multi gig it’s not accurate.) If your internet provider even offers you a 6G router for free, you really don’t need to settle for a mesh system that can’t keep up. For a setup that truly maximizes performance with updated standards like Wi‑Fi 6E—and eventually Wi‑Fi 7—the Amazon option is the more capable choice. Google just isn’t keeping pace with the advancements needed for a robust, high‑performance network.

If you're on internet only you can just buy an Eero kit and use that instead of the FiOS router/extender, then you're not paying any rental fee and you'll likely get better wifi performance. I would recommend the Eero 7 two pack, or the Eero Pro 6E two pack, both should be $300 or less and cover a 3000 square foot house unless its got concrete or brick interior walls. For the highest speeds and lowest latency you're gonna need to be wired, though at only 300mbps you can still get decent speeds wirelessly you don't need the most expensive/sophisticated hardware, though it'll still suffer compared to wired performance. https://imgur.com/j1jt7Qo I've managed 2gbps over wifi, but it requires specific hardware and network settings to achieve those speeds.

I’ve been using Eeros for about 10 years. I upgraded a year ago to the 6E Pros from the previous generation Pros. I have found my four Eeros using wired back hauls don’t hand a large number of devices very well. I do experience network wide drops and Eero reboots. The latest firmwares has reduced the rate of incidence from multiple times an hour to a couple times per day but they still occur. My research has shown my issues are not rare when working with a larger number of devices (20+). The processing ability is towards the bottom of the industry when compared to others in the same price range. The offerings from others like TP and even Google seem to be better. I’m going to try TP-Link first.

If u don’t have Ethernet plugs around the house, and u have a decent size place like 1000 sq ft a mesh router does wonders. At my apartment the only hook up is in the living room and in my room the internet would be so bad that shooting games are unplayable despite having 500mbps. After I got an eero pro 6e mesh router (2 routers) the WiFi had basically zero lag. If ur lagging while paying for 500mbps I suggest a mesh router. If ur not having any problems and r satisfied I’d just keep what u have. ** just saw that you would have to fork out $120 a year for a router, kinda makes the decision straight forward to buy yourself a router

Realize now you said you only have 300mbs, so an Amazon eero 6e would work great.

I have the Eero 6E pro mesh and have no issues or regrets

Any eero will do. Just don’t buy it on eBay. Most of those are locked to ISPs, stolen, and will be bricked in the future. I’d suggest a 7 pro. If you dont want to drop that much cash, then a pro 6 or 6e. Dont buy an “extender”, a 5 anything, a 6 or 6+, and don’t buy the base 7. When you get your second eero, add it to the network, and then put it somewhere between your existing unit and the dead spot. Don’t put it in the dead spot. Good luck!

I would buy a single Eero max and centrally locate it in the home, and see what that does. You have an extremely demanding application, and you are very sensitive to performance issues with games, and you really want to buy the very best Wi-Fi router you can afford. The max 7 will last a long time, and I would highly recommend sticking to that model. The pro will do OK, but the max will really do what you want.

Keep it simple. I'd setup an Eero 6E AP. If they need additional coverage, then add a second one either cabled to the first or connected via mesh. Eeros are known for solid performance, simple to use and wide coverage. Plus you can manage it remotely if they have an issue.

I think folks that have commented already missed the point that you're not tech-savvy and do not way to deal with complicated setup/ troubleshooting. I would avoid Ubiquiti. It's a great product and I use it. But it requires network know-how the set it up and maintain it. I would recommend Eero. It's a solid performer and designed for the person that isn't tech-savvy and does not want to tinker with the network. Eero has probably the best mesh products on the market today. Depending on your layout/ needs, you could go PoE Gateway + PoE 6 APs. Great for ceiling AP locations. I also use this setup. Alternatively, you can use Max 7 or Pro 6E. Avoid 6/6+ models from Eero.

I think folks that have commented already missed the point that you're not tech-savvy and do not way to deal with complicated setup/ troubleshooting. I would avoid Ubiquiti. It's a great product and I use it. But it requires network know-how the set it up and maintain it. I would recommend Eero. It's a solid performer and designed for the person that isn't tech-savvy and does not want to tinker with the network. Eero has probably the best mesh products on the market today. Depending on your layout/ needs, you could go PoE Gateway + PoE 6 APs. Great for ceiling AP locations. I also use this setup. Alternatively, you can use Max 7 or Pro 6E. Avoid 6/6+ models from Eero.

This is a good recommendation. Eero for simple, plug and play with probably one of the best mesh networks in market today. Ubiquiti if you want more configuration capabilities and have more network know-how.

If you have ethernet cabling between floors, use that as much as possible. If not, then it is mesh. One of the best mesh systems on the market is Eero. Solid and super easy to setup and use. That's what I use. You can start with one and only add more devices as you need them. But don't oversaturate your wifi. That creates wifi interference which leads to performance issues.

I wouldn't mix Pro 6 with 6E or 7 unless you are going to do wired back haul. Edit: due to differences in the 3rd radio (or lack of a 3rd).

Here’s what I would do, remove the Spectrum router from your setup and replace with an Eero 7. Add Eero 7s to extend your network. (Eero 7 or another Eero model such as Pro 6E.) Here’s why: 1. You’re either turning off DHCP (ip address assignment), which Spectrum doesn’t like or bridging your Eero (so it doesn’t assign IP addresses), which takes away some of benefits of using Eeros. 2. I had more issues with the Spectrum router and modem connection than the Eero router and Spectrum modem connection, to the point where I was in the store swapping out equipment every other month. You’ll lose their WiFi support if you’re adding Eero(s), it’s not going to be complete support anyway. I’m assuming that you have separate devices and that your modem and router aren’t one device. Note: I had spectrum a few years ago before they wanted to double my price and now have gigabit fiber for less than I was paying Spectrum.

First and foremost spectrum doesn’t throttle anyone. Just depends on utilization from the node since you are on a shared network. My advice is keep the spectrum modem since it’s free and spend a good chunk on [Eero](https://a.co/d/gInglP9) this is by far a very impressive router for the money. The app you can do a lot of cool things like QOS and network control in general that can help with gaming. [network switch](https://a.co/d/0a7szld) You’ll need one of these to connect multiple wired devices.

I had pretty much same situation as you, house size, att fiber, with very weak WiFi on the second floor. I tried att’s extenders and they did nothing to help. Wound up getting an eero mesh setup, and haven’t had an issue since. It was easy to setup and every spot in my house has great coverage. Highly recommend it.

No I’m sorry i dont. I never even heard of unifi until I read this post. I just know this setup works perfect for me, I needed the speeds mostly for gaming as well. I had a nighthawk router upstairs just like you and after I bought this mesh network I got rid of the extra router. All my download speeds for games and for cloud gaming have been perfect. I have the Eero pro 6e. One main one plugged into the att router and two satellites(not sure if that’s the correct word for it) up stairs.

Eero Pro 6E or Eero 7 it’s plug and play,future proof will give you everything you’re looking for without all the technical jargon blasting you in the face.

I'm using x2 eero pro 6e (bridge mode) that we got with our Metronet. I'm not thrilled with them. In part because I'm suspicious of how much tracking info they are pushing up. I'm curious about your claim that they are the most reliable. What's your source? If the reliability is substantially better, then I'd be tempted to stick with them.

I second this. Instead of Netgear mine was the Eero Pro 6E

My HomePods didn’t place nicely with eero and then I had like 40 devices on it too

Your best bet may actually be an EERO pro setup similar to your parents. It is a simple network to configure, works well and can easily scale in a residential situation.

Personally I use TP link with Omada SDN. It's business level networking with local and cloud management. I have a ER605 router, omada OC200 controller, and 3 wifi6 APs. 2 hardwired APs with one on Wireless mesh. I have 3 separate SSiDs in my network to securely separate main devices, IoT devices, and a guest network for when people come over or my kids decide to run a Wlan party for gaming.  TPlink does well with there mesh systems but you have to choose which eco system to run with and stay with it. Another option that is good on the market is the EERO and I would recommend specifically the EERO Pro 6E with 3 stations. The main router has a 2.5gb network port for connecting a switch and the mesh network is fantastic. Easily managed via a very consumer friendly app. Install this with a lot of clients for there home networks. Fully expandable if needing more units as well.

Personally I use TP link with Omada SDN. It's business level networking with local and cloud management. I have a ER605 router, omada OC200 controller, and 3 wifi6 APs. 2 hardwired APs with one on Wireless mesh. I have 3 separate SSiDs in my network to securely separate main devices, IoT devices, and a guest network for when people come over or my kids decide to run a Wlan party for gaming.  TPlink does well with there mesh systems but you have to choose which eco system to run with and stay with it. Another option that is good on the market is the EERO and I would recommend specifically the EERO Pro 6E with 3 stations. The main router has a 2.5gb network port for connecting a switch and the mesh network is fantastic. Easily managed via a very consumer friendly app. Install this with a lot of clients for there home networks. Fully expandable if needing more units as well.

Wifi7 is overkill. For same price I would get Eero Pro 6E to setup a mesh network.

I don’t think Apple is ditching it per se. I think it’s more of the router manufacturers that had no interest in implementing it. For instance, it was still a thing when the eero Pro 6E came out but they chose not to use it. Probably a very strict process to get approved for it and not worth the manufacturer’s resources. Like when HomeKit first came out with that required chip (I vaguely remember what it was called iM1 or something like that). Also, IIRC, the eero Pro 6 took many months to get HomeKit Enabled Routers approval. To the OP: FWIW, I think it caused more issues than what it was worth. Devices on that program often went offline and my Ecobees were a headache. Ended up just disabling it but my favorite part of it was getting notified if an eero went offline. Something not native in the eero app. Also it was cool to see the all routers in the Home app (I’m a HomeKit accessory whore). Look into a Ubiquiti UniFi system. Just moved over to one a few months ago and it’s been absolute heaven for HomeKit.

If you can get the Eero Pro 6E on sale, a three-pack of those may solve your interference problems. They can do wired or wireless backhaul, and I've found them very stable. Looking to replace my current Unifi Dream Router and AC Pro with them when they're next on sale.

Getting 1Gps wireless is going to require specific clients and a higher end mesh (likely WiFi 7). So you really need to specify a budget. High level you want a 3 unit (unless you meant 3 floors + the basement, then 4 units). Get a tri-band unit. I have great success with the Eero Pro 6E, Asus XT12s (really hard to find now but XT8/9 are easy to find and have really solid performance for the price). The Deco BE63 are on sale and WiFi 7 and the XE70s are solid.

That’s still not great. https://www.speedtest.net/result/i/6530718925 iPhone 15 pro and eero pro 6e

That’s still not great. https://www.speedtest.net/result/i/6530718925 iPhone 15 pro and eero pro 6e

Buy a set of eero 6e pro’s. night and day upgrade which show exactly what’s using what frequency per end point and understands devices connected via power lines, much quicker (my perception, but downloads are quicker), rock solid reliability and regular upgrades of the endpoints.

Field tech here. I recommend eero to all of my customers, I DO not recommend using spectrum routers.. all routers provided by spectrum have their issues. Even the 6E's, just this past week I got my first batch of refurbished 6Es for my equipment this week and I'm not looking forward to using them. I have an Eero 6E Pro at home that does the job. Also, go to a store and ask for a new modem, IN THE BOX.. if it's in shrink wrap it's a refurb.

Tech here. I personally recommend eero to all of my customers. Saving them rental charges on their monthly bill and wifi dropping frustrations. They're running deals right now on many eero systems, I personally have stopped using the spectrum router and have my own eero 6e pro. And an auxiliary eero in my garage for my opener. In my experience it is the ONLY router that the modem recognizes besides spectrums own routers and has an active ping or communication back and forth between the modem and router. I have not seen any other brand have an active ping.. they work very well with spectrum modems compared to other brands.

I have a gig and an et as well. No issues.. but it seems like every week I'm replacing en models in customer homes.. as far as the wifi 7 routers.. I haven't heard much feedback on them, I wouldn't want one anyways, I have an eero pro 6e that I love and always recommend to gig customers.

For the average consumer, Eero is a much better fit though. Sure, if you like to tinker or have one off use cases, Unifi is the much better option, but Eero does a great job of providing a product that just works without ever really needing to touch it. I've had Asus, Netgear, Linksys, TP-Link, Google WiFi, and Eero, but I've had meshing issues with all except for Eero. My current setup is Unifi with Eero in bridge mode.

The Eero 6E pros are a huge improvement over Nest wifi pro. I just made the switch recently. I've never regretted a system as much as I did the Nest Pro.

Love it! Switched from eero pro 6E and Pro 7. Don’t think just buy it! 2900 Sq Ft range too. Yes user friendly.

Naw, eero is garbage. Tp-Link Mesh is the way.

I just tried a couple of mesh APs and they both went back to the shop as devices would frequently disconnect or get stuck on a poor choice of node (like a phone in the same room as the AP would stay connected to the one downstairs and across the house). They were TPLink Deco X10 and Draytek Vigor AP805's. Draytek had a more mature web interface and feature set, TPLink forces you to use a terrible android app. I'm currently running an eero Pro 6E in bridge mode which is much better than a pair of either of the others - maybe because that avoids using a mesh? App-based but very professional. If Ubiquiti weren't so focused on ceiling mount and poe I may have tried them. If you're building and want video streaming why not go wired? I have pretty much every entertainment device on CAT6.

Eero Pro 6E, hardwired to my Mac mini. Using Cloudflare DNS.

Don't use the 6E as your gateway but keep it as an extender. It has two ethernet ports, one 2.5G + one 1G, which would throttle your network if you use it as a gateway, but works well as a repeater in a remote room or low utility area 7 Pro or Max would make an excellent gateway. Add a few multi-gig or gigabit switches where needed TP-Link has a lot of compatibility issues among their devices. Archer won't work with Deco or Omada. Most of their routers support Matter but other IoT protocols are hit or miss. They also may get banned by the US for security reasons [Compatibility List | TP-Link](https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/compatibility-list/) I chose eero over ASUS because the eero 7 Max beats their best routers both on hardware specs and ASUS lacks support for IoT protocols like Matter, Thread, Zigby, & Bluetooth

The Pro 6e has a 2.5gig wan connection, neither the wired or wireless provide a 2gig lan. It's an aggregate setup for the 2gig wan. Sucks but thankfully the pro 7 is capable of better.

I have the Eero pro 6E and the results are pretty good.

I have the 3 pack Eero Pro 6e. No, I do not have the satellites wired in. Router is in the family room on the one end of the house, one satellite is in the dining room at the other hand of the house and the other satellite is in the second floor master bedroom. This works perfectly fine in our 3,500 SQ foot, 3 story home. And we have about 30 devices connected at pretty much all times.

Budget? Size of apt? Eero Pro 6E or Eero Max 7. If small apartment likely only need one. Set it and forget it solution that will give you gig wired and closest you can get over wifi. Can’t expect gig over wifi fyi. Would be chasing something that’s likely not worth it Remember 1 4K stream uses 25Mbps, 1/40th of your connection so you’ll be more than enabled. Keep the eero out of the closet — make sure it’s clear of obstructions. It helps

Both will cover. Pick based on price - there are a ton of other options but eero is set it and forget it and just works You don’t need their monthly service to enjoy the benefits of the platform. They’ll try to upsell you

Eero Pro 6e’s look discreet and slim on a counter or desk. LEDs are also configurable easily and can be turned off (for bedrooms, etc.)

When I first went with eero it was amazing. Worked right out of the box. I’ve upgraded 1 or 2 times since then. For me it still works fine but I swear the signal strength has reduced some. If you have Ring, they have a cool integration (if you use Eero as a router) that will provide you a few gigs of cellular backup if your primary WAN goes offline, as part of the ring subscription. I no longer use it as a router though, just APs, but disappointed sometimes at the speeds or signal strength, I have 3 units around my house (Eero pro 6e) and have been thinking of trying to improve the placement or go elsewhere for WiFi signal.

When I first went with eero it was amazing. Worked right out of the box. I’ve upgraded 1 or 2 times since then. For me it still works fine but I swear the signal strength has reduced some. If you have Ring, they have a cool integration (if you use Eero as a router) that will provide you a few gigs of cellular backup if your primary WAN goes offline, as part of the ring subscription. I no longer use it as a router though, just APs, but disappointed sometimes at the speeds or signal strength, I have 3 units around my house (Eero pro 6e) and have been thinking of trying to improve the placement or go elsewhere for WiFi signal.

Consider eero outdoor WiFi 7 AP and their WiFi 6e or 7 mesh. It'll work for indoor and outdoor for years to come.

Two people should be fine with the 300 plan. My house is roughly that size, and I have a 3-pack of Eero Pro mesh routers. I had the house wired for CAT6 when we had it built, so the Eeros are all using Ethernet for the backhaul channel.

eero pro, my house is single floor 2400sqf, meross, aqara, homeassistant on a server for Ring and Nest via starling hub 26 devices Other than rebooting my main hub when IOS 18 dropped I don't have any issues for the past year or so. The only problems I've had I had to reboot my Aqara hub 1 time, rebooted a light switch after my eero did a firmware update. I had to reboot my meross garage door 1 time as well after my internet dropped due to a wind storm. All my tiny issues have been extremely easily with subtle wifi drops due power outages or updates. I just check my non connected devices now and then and honestly they are very very rare.

I have a shed here in the Midwest and had an original eero pro in it for 6+ years and never had an issue. So, if the node remains in the shed, I don’t know that you need to splurge for the eero outdoor. That being said, I just swapped mine out for an eero outdoor (because my back haul method was a hack) and it’s really nice. Very happy with it.

Eero pro from second generation up. All are fantastic and cheap, but secondhand. Just ask the seller straight up if they’re generic eero devices from Amazon or if they’re white label from some ISP. Just don’t buy the white label ones.

Put in the eero system for mesh WiFi

I have around 50 accessories including cameras. I’ve upgraded to eero pros and they have been a game changer. I bought 2 of them from Amazon refurbished for $50 each. I don’t think you can’t beat them for that price. All of my devices respond fast and my cameras load lightning fast. The biggest reason for me upgrading is my WiFi bandwidth would cause issues when I had company over. Now there’s no issues

I really like my Eero Pro. Overkill for your situation so maybe look at the regular Eero. Then you can expand if you get a bigger place in the future.

Router: Eero Pro mesh (3 access points). Apple TV 4K as the hub. Size of setup: 73 devices in the Home app. A mix of bulbs, sensors, switches, sockets, cameras, and most recently a robot vacuum. House is an average size 3 bed semi, garden goes back about 8 meters, driveway extends about 5 meters. There’s lights out front and back, and devices in the attic, so it’s all fairly spread out. A mix of HomeKit and Matter. Wi-Fi and Thread. 1 device on HomeBridge. Experience: In the 6 or so years I started my setup it’s been almost entirely rock solid, except for the first couple when I was clinging on to an old-ish AirPort router. As soon as I swapped that out for Eero it became stable.

I've been testing the Eero lineup against other competitors. The Max's are great but not that much better than the Pros. A lot of your performance will be up to capabilities of your client devices. Other comments about channel optimization are completely valid, Eero along with some others out there take a day or two to optimize their channel selection. It doesn't set a good impression on day one but gets better over time. Pricing wise I'd never spend what they're asking from retail on my own home network, but then again I'm spoiled from getting lots of free stuff working in the industry. The reality is, I haven't come across many situations where WiFi speeds are actually the root cause of issues on a given application in the home. Throughput testing is fun for easy bragging rights but I believe consistency and reliability are the most important parts of a good home wifi. Believe it or not, most high priced enterprise grade equipment will yield lower throughput tests than the retail home stuff, for good reason. They're tuned to service large numbers of clients with consistency, over servicing a few clients with truckloads of data. The reasoning behind this is, at a high level, if the CEOs web conference isn't silky smooth, nobody's gonna give a damn if it takes 5 extra minutes for a giant download to complete. They're tuned to deliver consistent and stable service as a priority, not drag race. Eero's new lineup has some of the best chips available in the industry, but IMO its overpriced. I do think performance will get better over time as newer clients become available and get better at using OFDMA(WiFi 6) and MLO(WiFi 7). 6GHz is a great addition but it's unfortunate that its optional for anything branded WiFi7, not mandatory. It's also at a disadvantage now with being locked in low power mode until we get a proper AFC system in place. That will allow them to unlock and operate at roughly twice the power levels they're limited to today in most scenarios. Making those extreme wide 320MHz channels work at higher rates through more walls. Sorry I got a little carried away there, dont know where I was headed 😅

[https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=4720d1a5-dce4-4ea9-b536-e3f583b12c5b](https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=4720d1a5-dce4-4ea9-b536-e3f583b12c5b) ISP is Converge. 5GHz wifi on R7800 router using built-in SQM. Bumaba lang yung download speed due to other users. Sadly phased-out na yung router ko. My recommendation for built-in SQM is eero Pro. Expensive but very user-friendly. Cheaper option would be flashing OpenWRT to Cudy WR3000 or WR3000S, this one I recommend since the manufacturer already provided the files needed, and guides are available which makes it a lot easier. Good luck!

+1 for the eero pro. I see a lot of people say to avoid them but mine has been great. I use HK secure router to block merosss and Aqara from the internet. I have three pro routers covering 2 story 2700+sqft and entire pool area.

IMO, I've always stuck with the Pro's and MAX's in the last 3 generations (7, 6 and "5"). I have over 190 devices and don't have drops on any of them and haven't since 2017.

eero Pro here, it’s been working great for five years. About 70 IoT devices, most of those are in HK.

I switched to Google Nest Wifi Pro 6E from my Eero Pros ( 3 pucks for 3 pucks ) and surprisingly my wifi speeds on devices have been better on Google. The ethernet speed hasn't seemed to change. I wanted to switch over to Google because I am trying to move away from Apple-centric stuff and Apple Home in particular, replacing it with Google Home. A lot more devices seem to work for Google Home that did not work for Apple Home. Its not been long but I have had no internet drops, no lag, no issues at all compared to the Eero's and its been significantly easier getting my fiancee to control things via Google Home rather than needing to jump through like six different apps for things that didn't play nice in Apple Home. I would say its still worth it. The idea on paper to always getting the best most advanced stuff makes sense but if your ISP hasn't sold you a plan that gets you 2.5GB internet speeds then it doesn't matter if the device is capable of providing that. You won't get that speed. It comes down to your budget and your comfortability. Upgrading a router for just $120 is a good deal.

That’s short enough that 2 eero pros would probably work

Eero pro all day

Very easy to install you go into the app and add a node. Stay with eero preferably a 6 or higher. Don’t buy off eBay or fb marketplace. People are selling isp owned eeros … you have a 50 50 chance it gets shut down. Only exception I would make is if you and the eBay/fbm eero uses the same isp. (You’re on frontier and the eero is locked to frontier)

eero, quick, simple and it works very well. dude in middle may need eero router in bridge mode to keep speed up on far end.

On an android phone, you can download am app called WifiAnalyzer, it has a white wifi symbol and a green background. Itll tell you how many networks are in your area and should give an idea of if this is truly the wifi going out or just being talked over. Id also say to go into the routers gui and split the 2.4/5g bands and see if one gives better signal than the other, as most modern routers mesh them together via "smart connect" or similar language. A factory reset of the router is a last resort before simply buying a new one, as you don't really mechanically fix components in consumer routers anymore, they're too cheap. I like tp-links Archer series for a new simple router, and suggest Amazon's EERO if you want to get a meshed routing system for better coverage

Eero mesh with the outdoor unit on the main house probably.

Get eero or Tplink, you'll be fine. I went through 2 Google mesh systems and now leave them alone. BTW you don't need the wifi 7 or even 6E. Save some money unless you have Gigabit internet, then go crazy.

If you have to wireless mesh, eero is really good in my experience. Setup is painless and it just works, I’ve only had to reset my network maybe once or twice in the last few years. As others mentioned, if you can do wired backhaul then that’d be ideal.

Get a pair of Eeros. Plug one in to the router and set the other one up near your PC, then hard wire in to the Eero. I have this set up and there is no loss of ping compared to hardwire directly in to the Virgin hub.

I got Eero mesh. Zero problems

Eero can do a decent job if you are absolutely against wiring in access points. Just temper your expectations. The access points that are furthest away from the gateway will have slower speeds than the access points that are closer to the gateway. Your house’s type of construction will also play role in performance.

Eero works great.

I use amazon Eero. You can get 3 of them for less than $400. My only crit is that they make it hard to set static IP and port forwarding on your home network (not impossible, but the UI is clunky), and that they don't support Dynamic DNS services (at least mine doesn't). For what it's worth, you'd probably only need 2 devices in a small townhouse. One upstairs and one downstairs.

The eero mesh system is pretty foolproof and great for users who don’t want to tinker. I highly recommend it for people who just want to plug their router in and forget it exists and maybe expand their mesh network as they need.

Using 3x eeros in mesh with over 70 devices ans it's rock solid with homekit, homebridge and homeassistant!

i have the same issue. mesh wifi with ethernet backhaul is the only solution. everyone's fave router is Eero. has both 2.4 and 5 ghz. mesh networking so you get super strong signal everywhere. including the bathrooms lol. easy to set up as seen here [https://youtu.be/ooGnTxTXmRg](https://youtu.be/ooGnTxTXmRg) if you have coax cable, you can easily use those so no need to run CAT6 cables all over the house

you need mesh. everyone's fave router is Eero. has both 2.4 and 5 ghz. mesh networking so you get super strong signal everywhere. including the bathrooms lol. easy to set up as seen here https://youtu.be/ooGnTxTXmRg

Simplest solution is something like Eero mesh routers. They also make an outdoor unit… so you can do something like put an Eero router in the main house, an outdoor unit in your patio or backyard, and then one in the guest house, and the signal should hop from main house > patio > guest house just fine.

I do casual gaming over wifi with no issues. I have a wifi mesh (eero) and a wifi 6 card. Make sure everything works properly with your PC hard wired to your modem though (as a test) - if the connection in has any issues, that will cascade through your network.

I think the hate comes mostly from the fact that, although you don't have to, you're strongly encouraged to use it within the Amazon ecosystem and with an Amazon account which triggers every data/privacy nerd's alarms. I have an eero system and it works flawlessly and I do not have it set up with an Amazon account. I realize that Amazon could still snoop if they wanted to since they own the hardware and software stack now but, in my experience, you can verify that eero functions mostly independently of Amazon, if you want it to.

I’ve tried every single WiFi google nest router(google WiFi, nest WiFi, nest WiFi pro) and out of them they all had slow speeds. I ended up getting the eero mesh system and those work flawlessly

Eero mesh. Is a router so you’ll save money from ISP. Can mesh as many as you need with other eero APs with Ethernet ports. No more extender BS.

just get another EERO. why TF would u want a wifi extender?

how big is the house. i like the modem, but would look at EERO mesh instead.

ive deployed 250+ EERO mesh set ups. They work flawlessly for a set it and forget it internet experience.

Orbi def best in market, next best is the google mesh, then Mby Eero mesh system… saw a lot of decco recommendations… they work alright but def lower in the ranks and way cheaper

I think it’s overkill. Eeros have been pretty solid. I bet if you just wired the nodes together it would be fine.

I have two eeros with wireless backhaul, which is suboptimal, and there is a noticeable moment as I go down the stairs and switch APs when the connection drops. For example Plex playback (on the new app) pauses for a couple of seconds, facetime calls drop for a second, wifi icon on phone shows connection strength to AP 1 falling and then improving with AP 2.

No it’s a good router! I’ve got it and so good the app is good too

Great feedback I work for Spectrum and I myself use eero mesh

I have an Eero mesh system. It's been great

The ISP gave me an eero mesh router for $10 a month. I bought a used Netgear mesh router used for $60 and returned the rental equipment. Both are 1G systems. The used Netgear router has already paid for itself at least 2x. The jump to 10GB was not worth it for me, I could already do everything I needed with 1GB. There are only two of us in the house. I don't download *that many* ISOs.

Second this. I have one Eero connected to my modem and use my Echo dots as mesh extenders. I have the dots in almost every room since I could buy them so cheap during sales

I am definitely no techie or expert on the subject, but when our old router died, I replaced it with Eero mesh. Not only have I had no problems with it, but our internet speed became faster than what I am paying for with Spectrum.

I'm using the Eero mesh system with three routers in my 1600 sq. ft., two-story condo. Right now, I have 38 (90% of that is Homekit) devices online, and I add about six more during the holiday season. My HomeKit setup includes three HomePods, and I'm planning to get an Apple TV soon. Overall, the experience has been pretty smooth, and Wi-Fi is super fast with a 300 Mbps download speed. Occasionally, I do get some "No Response" issues, but it’s usually just with my Meross devices, and it’s an easy fix. Besides that, everything works great, and no major issues to report.

That's really the point of mesh routers to expand the wifi to far areas of the house without running cables. Yes everything would be faster wired, but they work perfectly fine wireless. I have Eero mesh and it's been great for years.

Lol what are you talking about? They both have “wireless only backbones”, AKA mesh networking. Unifi has a billion more features over eero and gives you a lot of granularity. I’d say go with eero if you want something that is simple and works well out of the box, and Unifi if you want to learn and tinker.

If you're not switching to 2gig service now, why replace the cable modem?  Money you don't need to spend.  And of course if you get the fiber service, a cable modem is useless. And then what problem are you trying to solve with the router/WiFi replacement?  In general, unifi is great if you can backhaul the nodes with an Ethernet cable.  It doesn't have a dedicated mesh radio unlike some of the systems designed for that. A 5 port 2.5gbe switch is $50, so if you want to connect your gaming rigs that might work.  If you wanted mesh system recommendations, orbi and eero would get my vote over Asus.  And then WiFi 7 is generally expensive and doesn't actually get you much over WiFi 6 if you don't have the clients to use it -- and phones don't need the speed.  

I agree with this. I have setup three Eero mesh systems for family members. They are super easy to setup and maintain. It has been set it and forget it for over three years now. These are installed in houses with users who are 65+.

Here's the advice you asked for: Go with Eero for your router. It fits what you need, reliable and will handle your networking needs, even as your network grows. It's pricey, but all these routers that cover your use case (and work reliably) will be. There are a few different models and options, so I would evaluate what fits your exact needs (do you want backhaul? Etc). Here's the unsolicited advice: You shouldn't be planning for your smart home to be gaining 50+ WiFi devices. If you are, it's extremely likely you're building it in a suboptimal way. Devices that use mesh protocols (Thread/Zigbee/Zwave) should be making up the bulk of your devices. You're going to run into more networking pains in the future if you keep just throwing tons of WiFi devices into the mix. Obviously this is pretty generic advice and comes with a lot of assumptions based on what you posted, but generally, you really don't want to be planning out your smart home to be primarily WiFi devices. Anyway, just my two cents. Take that for what it's worth

Since you have cable Internet and it runs into the basement, you hopefully have coaxial cables available to you throughout the house, and usually in key locations. Just look at the area where all the coax ends should meet, likely in the basement where your modem/router is at and plugged into. If you do find this bunch of coax, you can use it with MoCA Adapters to build a wired Ethernet network inside your home. If you can achieve that, then getting good WiFi everywhere will be easy, as well as providing wired capabilities for other devices in needed locations. MoCA Adapters can be a bit expensive, but worth the cost. If you can build this MoCA network, then whatever you choose as the router and Access Points will work very well, including a 3 pack of a reputable mesh brand. For mesh, I use and can recommend eero. But ASUS Zen mesh is also praised a lot, and has more configurability. If you want to go higher end, you can get an Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway router, a Ubiquiti PoE switch, and some Ubiquiti Access Points. It's more expensive, but very capable of advanced setups, and is very stable. I use Ubiquiti at another home and in my office location, and I can recommend them personally as well.

Wireless MESH are great now. I do all of the same stuff you do and EERO works just fine.

Wireless MESH are great now. I do all of the same stuff you do and EERO works just fine.

Single story, you’ll probably need a mesh. Eero is good and simple to setup. There are others too ‘mesh routers’.

Be aware. I like my eero mesh. But it's a whiplash going from a router that has a management console I can access internally without Internet and have logs and history data to eero. Without Internet you cannot access the management of your network , you can only access via phone app with account no IP or web page. And some features are blocked behind a paywall like for example going to a list of which devices consume more data on a day and so on. I might change from eero to another brand in the future based on it but for a no frills, turn on and forget eero might be your better choice.

I read many poor things about Google Wi-Fi routers and I took the plunge anyways to see it for myself how bad they potentially are. For me it’s fine I’m a heavy gamer and big smart home user. It’s honestly been a better WiFi mesh router then others I bought and returned such as eero, and TP-Link. I have no issues, my only complaint is I wish it was a little more involved with settings but it’s simple interface is very unique compared to anyone else on the market and uses the Google smart home app. My speeds are flying, I personally got it because all the crap going on with TP-Link. I wanted to like eero but they are no good tbh. I don’t regret my decision with the google mesh router, I got the 6E version. Also I like the perk that I can block my kids devices with schedules and security policies for free while the other companies you would need to pay for that feature.

Eero with 3 points 2200 sq feet

Interesting comment, since I’ve found both the Zigbee and the Thread support provided by Eero to be completely useless. Thread doesn’t merge or interoperate with the one created by my AppleTVs and HomePods, which sucks because the routers could really boost coverage. Similarly, better Zigbee would be a boon for the Hue devices instead of needing to run that as a separate hub. Also, the “HomeKit” support in eero is heinous. It took wireshark to figure out that the eero app was flat lying to me about the IP it was supplying clients for DNS. I eventually shut down pretty much all their services in favor of a standalone Mikrotik.

Hubby and I live in a 1953 ranch house in a subdivision that dates to that time period. Cell reception stinks tho internet options are plentiful. I tried wireless, but the walls were a mix of drywall and plaster. There was very old coax running through the house that was useless. I first tried the eero mesh system, but after a while, it had to be reset every night. I then ended up with a Linksys 6 system, but it started having problems after awhile. I broke down about 8 years ago and had a fiber network installed while I still had Verizon Fios. I really thought about it - where the drops should go and why they were going in those locations. Verizon was fond of coax cable at the time. Their bills became outrageous and I switched to a different provider that worked with fiber. Bless that company’s heart. (RCN/Astound). No difficulties at all and the bills remain under $100/month. It is worth it to install the fiber network. Look on Thumbtack or Angie’s list or wherever. Have a plan first. Consider getting the highest level fiber you can get so when higher speed internet becomes available you are capable of managing it. Or you can run your own fiber and use unmanaged switches. The original mistake I made was putting in cat 5 fiber. I had to have the fiber replaced for some rooms but not all. I now have a ubiquity network but it is complicated and not easy. I also have smart switches, outlets, smart electric panels, solar panels and some appliances are smart, but smart appliances are over rated, unless they cook or clean for you. I keep wishing for Rosie the Robot or a good android out of the iRobot movie. So my network has over 100 items and always expanding. I had a mesh system but I found it so frustrating. It was a dummy system and if there were latencies I couldn’t tell where they were - service provider or in-network. I was constantly tinkering with the apps, which could tell me nothing.

Hubby and I live in a 1953 ranch house in a subdivision that dates to that time period. Cell reception stinks tho internet options are plentiful. I tried wireless, but the walls were a mix of drywall and plaster. There was very old coax running through the house that was useless. I first tried the eero mesh system, but after a while, it had to be reset every night. I then ended up with a Linksys 6 system, but it started having problems after awhile. I broke down about 8 years ago and had a fiber network installed while I still had Verizon Fios. I really thought about it - where the drops should go and why they were going in those locations. Verizon was fond of coax cable at the time. Their bills became outrageous and I switched to a different provider that worked with fiber. Bless that company’s heart. (RCN/Astound). No difficulties at all and the bills remain under $100/month. It is worth it to install the fiber network. Look on Thumbtack or Angie’s list or wherever. Have a plan first. Consider getting the highest level fiber you can get so when higher speed internet becomes available you are capable of managing it. Or you can run your own fiber and use unmanaged switches. The original mistake I made was putting in cat 5 fiber. I had to have the fiber replaced for some rooms but not all. I now have a ubiquity network but it is complicated and not easy. I also have smart switches, outlets, smart electric panels, solar panels and some appliances are smart, but smart appliances are over rated, unless they cook or clean for you. I keep wishing for Rosie the Robot or a good android out of the iRobot movie. So my network has over 100 items and always expanding. I had a mesh system but I found it so frustrating. It was a dummy system and if there were latencies I couldn’t tell where they were - service provider or in-network. I was constantly tinkering with the apps, which could tell me nothing.

If you’re looking for mesh then Eero is the best. Otherwise ASUS is the best brand !

What you need to do is return the Spectrum router and save yourself $10 a month for the router WiFi monthly fee. The modem is free so you can keep that. Now what I would suggest for your WIFI Signal issues is to get something called a “Mesh WiFi system” these are meant for larger homes 3000+ sq ft and are best for coverage/range and speeds ! Eero is the best in my opinion for a mesh WiFi system !

It’s really not a true mesh system rather an extender to the existing routers signal. What I would suggest is you get a true mesh router system to get the best performance ! I highly recommend Eero as a mesh router as those are super reliable and easy to setup !

Forget the Spectrum router .. go to Best Buy and buy a mesh system like Eero. A 2 pack would be good for your situation !

Gotcha. Get your favorite Eero or Google mesh router and roll with it

Hardwire your house and add a WAP on second floor ceiling. We retrofit lots of houses for hardwire and teach clients to just use WIFI for portable devices, IOT’s and mobile phones. Hardwire all TVs, computers and network devices that can be hardwired. MESH is just a bandaid that has lots of loss when going from one AP to the other. You can use Eero and it will work like a charm.

Will the ‘nodes’ be hardwired to each other or will you require wireless mesh? If the former, consider UniFi. If the latter, consider eero. If you want to really mix it up, and budget isn’t an issue, consider a Firewalla router combined with one of the above as access points.

I use eeros for my mesh wifi and it works great with my OPNSense setup. I just dropped it into bridge mode. I physically segregate my LAN / Home WIFinetwork from my Guest and IoT via a 4 port nic and Firewall rules. My IoT stuff runns off a Nighthawk and the Guest also runs off another Nighthawk. BOth running OpenWRT firmware since stock is garbage and insecure.

Now I'm not expert, but for me the eero routers have awful wifi signal. I can't even get 200mbps over 2 meters away 😐

I use a eero mesh system. Easy to use and administer

I’ve had Eero for 4 years , 4 pods spread around, never had an issue, always stable , you can see all devices on the app with signal strength, would recommend.

Most mesh systems take a few days to adjust and will move channels until it finds the best scenario. Netgear orbi’s do this as well as the eero systems. But once there fully optimized they should be set it and forget it and just work. Speed fluctuations are normal but I did find the eero did have less speed than my netgear with identical locations and settings. So I reset the eero from scratch and then the speed was where it needed to be. I believe it has something to do with firmware as I get the feeling the updates don’t always go well with some older firmware lingering after the upgrade. Reset seems to clear it out

EERO Mesh and 2 EERO outdoor nodes.

Neither, install a mesh network, I recommend eero lately

Yup. The extra cost is that each device is a full blown WiFi router but can easily switch into a mesh style distributed wireless setup. It'll handle everything. If you can wire them to each other, it's as good as having just one really big/strong WiFi signal. Wire them as physically far apart as you wish to extend the WiFi wherever too. If they aren't wired then just be weary and place the nodes with at least an 80% signal back to the primary node. And look into turning your ATT box WiFi off, and set-up "IP-Passthtough" so the eero is dominant.

So, this is going to be controversial, but despite the fact I have no problems with my Google WiFi mesh (touch wood immediately!), I don't recommend it for people buying mesh today, and if I were to replace my setup today it would be for Eero - it's got so much at this stage it's better to go there instead of Nest.

I would start with the one I had. At home I have an eero mesh in bridge mode, if you want small. You can use just one.

I think Eero would be the most plug and play option. I've used TP-Link and they're decent but unclear political situation / possible ban. Ubiquiti/Unifi if you want to tinker and manage their network remotely (expensive)

Any type of mesh WiFi systems with 3 pods will work wonderful. Most popular is Eero and you don't even need the latest newest generation. Only thing you need to make sure is the base for the mesh has open wired connection for the one wired work computer or that your cable modem has an extra port or more.

Att equipment is utter junk. Eeros will absolutely work better. Like others said if you can wire in as many as possible it will drastically help. Plus eero tech support is pretty good and would help you figure out some dead spots and how to combat them (with more eeros of course 😉) Send that ATT crap back to the peddlers. The only thing their routers are good for is pass through. However I am sure they will remove that feature before long. It's all about the data, and pass through removes a chunk of data for them to access.

i am happy with my eero mesh wifis.

Your responses... Why, why do you think this? Why is the Spectrum WiFi pod an extender here?

Not following what you are saying. Anyways... an extender is a combo radio with fronthaul and backhaul in one unit. This is the garbage method to extend coverage for a WiFi network as it will reduce your effective throughput by half (the radio has to talk to the client then talk to the upstream access point it has joined to as a client).  A "mesh" router is when the fronthaul and backhaul radios are on different bands or radios. The Spectrum WiFi pod has WiFi 5 fronthaul (pod to client) and WiFi 6 backhaul (pod to upstream router). This is exactly how Eero works.  Spectrum will have a WiFi 7 router behaving as a mesh unit available as a product in early 2026. The pod will be dropped and performance & coverage will be a massive enhancement. tl;dr - Spectrum WiFi pods and Eero exist in the same product space. The Spectrum WiFi pod is NOT an extender where FH/BH are shared and throughput is reduced by half (what OP was asking).

I agree with you. I have openers on a ubiquity edge router x. And then run a eero mesh from that. Yes my wireless is not openwrt but my dns is. I did a trial 1gbps service from my hfc ISP and found the router could only manage 800mbps.

I agree with you. I have openers on a ubiquity edge router x. And then run a eero mesh from that. Yes my wireless is not openwrt but my dns is. I did a trial 1gbps service from my hfc ISP and found the router could only manage 800mbps.

I use Deco work which is fairly lightweight traffic and eero at home with massive traffic. I haven't maxed out the eeros but haven't put the Decos to that same test. The eeros come back online and reconnect to everything much faster than the Decos. I like eero app way better.

You can upgrade your network to a mesh system something like eero, retrofit an outdoor eero aim it at the guest house and add an eero inside the guest house to have WiFi inside.

Go for a mesh Wi-Fi system like Deco or Eero. Put one in the laundry, one in the office, and use your Ethernet outlets for best speed. Perfect for gaming, streaming, and big households.

I have a eero WiFi mesh and a ubiquity network switch for anything that needs to be wired. I have had the setup for the last 3 years no complaints

I have a eero WiFi mesh and a ubiquity network switch for anything that needs to be wired. I have had the setup for the last 3 years no complaints